View Full Version : BB at fault, not Ken.
I cant see what Ken did wrong!
In my eyes all he did was chat to a friend mentioning the negro word,second time he was just telling cheggers a story about frank Bruno.
BB is the ones who aired it, if they are that bothered about people being offended then why air it ?
More to it in my eytes, perhaps people had threatened to walk!
And this crap about chloe, jesus.. her excuse is, it's my body and I do it when I'm in control, so don't look at my arse.
Denver
13-01-2015, 11:45 AM
Why do people take offence at him looking at they arse? If they was that bothered they wouldnt get it out for money also if a woman said that about a man she wouldnt be warned
Jamesy
13-01-2015, 11:49 AM
Also if a young good looking guy made comments about arses no one would say anything and there would be no warning.
Niamh.
13-01-2015, 11:50 AM
Chloe didn't say the thing about her being in control of her body in ragards to what Ken said about looking at arses, she said that after jeremy had exposed her boob, which he had no right to do
Denver
13-01-2015, 11:50 AM
Also if a young good looking guy made comments about arses no one would say anything and there would be no warning.
:clap1: the same goes if woman make comments on a mans arse or body
Is BB pandering to some overly PC correctness given its a reality experiment - probably
Was Ken intentionally controversial - yes
Did the other housemates take advantage of Kens position - yes
No winners in my eyes tbh
Naimh, your deleting my best work mate.
chloe didn't say the thing about her being in control of her body in ragards to what ken said about looking at arses, she said that after jeremy had exposed her boob, which he had no right to do
i think she was making a sweeping statement regarding her carear mate, which is what my point was about.
Niamh.
13-01-2015, 11:59 AM
Naimh, your deleting my best work mate.
:fist:
i think she was making a sweeping statement regarding her carear mate, which is what my point was about.
No she said it in the diary room straight after the Jeremy incident happened
Daniel.
13-01-2015, 11:59 AM
Yeah because Ken being a racist, sexist bigot is all down to Big Brother, not Ken himself.
:fist:
No she said it in the diary room straight after the Jeremy incident happened
I know, but she's used it as well to back up any crap from ken, what does she think happens to her bare arse when some young lad gets five minutes alone with her pics in his bedroom.:sleep:
Yeah because Ken being a racist, sexist bigot is all down to Big Brother, not Ken himself.
racist! try again.:joker:
I know, but she's used it as well to back up any crap from ken, what does she think happens to her bare arse when some young lad gets five minutes alone with her pics in his bedroom.:sleep:
Do they draw smiley faces on it?
chuff me dizzy
13-01-2015, 12:02 PM
Also if a young good looking guy made comments about arses no one would say anything and there would be no warning.
:clap1:
Do they draw smiley faces on it?
no, they dollop semen all over it.
Denver
13-01-2015, 12:04 PM
Yeah because Ken being a racist, sexist bigot is all down to Big Brother, not Ken himself.
How has he been sexist?
DemolitionRed
13-01-2015, 12:10 PM
Yeah because Ken being a racist, sexist bigot is all down to Big Brother, not Ken himself.
Since when did the word negro, when used as a descriptor, in this case music become offensive?. Try googling negro music and you will come up with loads of advertisers. It usually means deep blues music that came about during the slave era. I'm a black woman and I didn't find what he said as offensive, should I of found it offensive because it was voiced by a white man? I guessed he was just talking about a particular type of blues that I personally love. Whilst it may be outdated and archaic its not racist!
DemolitionRed
13-01-2015, 12:16 PM
The guys a douche with a warped sense of humour. He came out of the Benny Hill era where beautiful women were used to depict everything sexual and he hasn't moved along with the times. He's bad tempered, sarcastic, blunt and annoying but I think the BB house turned into a gang of bullies who revelled in demonizing this guy more than he deserved.
The trash tabloids are now lying about what he actually said and the rumour mill, for those who didn't watch the show is burning hot. I didn't like the guy but good grief, I feel so angry about the way he was treated it makes me want to turn off the tv and run away screaming.
BB have a lot to answer to or at least they should have
poppsywoppsy
13-01-2015, 01:06 PM
I think Ken was got rid of for what he might say in the future, just as much as he said in the past.
BB is treading a fine line with the authorities and I think removing Ken sooner than later saved BB from many more complaints to Ofcom.
Crimson Dynamo
13-01-2015, 01:08 PM
I cant see what Ken did wrong!
In my eyes all he did was chat to a friend mentioning the negro word,second time he was just telling cheggers a story about frank Bruno.
BB is the ones who aired it, if they are that bothered about people being offended then why air it ?
More to it in my eytes, perhaps people had threatened to walk!
And this crap about chloe, jesus.. her excuse is, it's my body and I do it when I'm in control, so don't look at my arse.
:clap1::clap1::clap1:
the truth
13-01-2015, 01:42 PM
I cant see what Ken did wrong!
In my eyes all he did was chat to a friend mentioning the negro word,second time he was just telling cheggers a story about frank Bruno.
BB is the ones who aired it, if they are that bothered about people being offended then why air it ?
More to it in my eytes, perhaps people had threatened to walk!
And this crap about chloe, jesus.. her excuse is, it's my body and I do it when I'm in control, so don't look at my arse.
ken is a legend and his ejection was 1 of the most sexist and lowest points in big brothers sad history
the truth
13-01-2015, 01:43 PM
Chloe didn't say the thing about her being in control of her body in ragards to what Ken said about looking at arses, she said that after jeremy had exposed her boob, which he had no right to do
she had no right to go into his toilet, with no clothes on under a robe too
he was sick, drunk and vulnerable and she took advantage of him to destroy his reputation, sick bitch
Marsh.
13-01-2015, 01:46 PM
And this crap about chloe, jesus.. her excuse is, it's my body and I do it when I'm in control, so don't look at my arse.
That came about when Jeremy took it upon himself to open her gown, nothing to do with Ken.
Marsh.
13-01-2015, 01:47 PM
she had no right to go into his toilet, with no clothes on under a robe too
he was sick, drunk and vulnerable and she took advantage of him to destroy his reputation, sick bitch
You truly are a deluded fool. Sick too.
GiRTh
13-01-2015, 01:47 PM
she had no right to go into his toilet, with no clothes on under a robe too
he was sick, drunk and vulnerable and she took advantage of him to destroy his reputation, sick bitch:facepalm: Just Wow
Marsh.
13-01-2015, 01:48 PM
Also if a young good looking guy made comments about arses no one would say anything and there would be no warning.
Proof?
You can't claim hypotheticals as fact when they haven't happened.
Braden
13-01-2015, 01:49 PM
Production have a show to make.
To blame them for Ken's ignorance is completely ridiculous.
Caballo
13-01-2015, 01:51 PM
That came about when Jeremy took it upon himself to open her gown, nothing to do with Ken.
She said it to Ken during the fairystory task too
Denver
13-01-2015, 01:54 PM
With recent news obviously they are scared to say anything to the woman i mean Cami biting Ken is worse then all the rest yet it was covered up and she wasnt warned
Niamh.
13-01-2015, 02:21 PM
she had no right to go into his toilet, with no clothes on under a robe too
he was sick, drunk and vulnerable and she took advantage of him to destroy his reputation, sick bitch
:umm2:
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 02:40 PM
I cant see what Ken did wrong!
In my eyes all he did was chat to a friend mentioning the negro word,second time he was just telling cheggers a story about frank Bruno.
BB is the ones who aired it, if they are that bothered about people being offended then why air it ?
More to it in my eytes, perhaps people had threatened to walk!
And this crap about chloe, jesus.. her excuse is, it's my body and I do it when I'm in control, so don't look at my arse.The first time he used the words Negro.. he clearly upset the only black person in the house...Alexander. The second time he used it.. Whether or not he was "Just" telling a story, that story itself was quite offensive. Considering how he used that word the way he did.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 02:41 PM
I would truly love to hear Frank Bruno's opinion... is Ken's story even true? I doubt Frank would have turned down the music after that.
:umm2: I think it's been made very clear that Ken was at fault, considering he was kicked out for multiple rule breaking despite having been warned against it. His fans need to let a few more things go, because these all of these threads are ending the same way.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Yep I think some people fail to realise you don't only have to say something directly to a person for to be deemed offensive.
cfromhx02
13-01-2015, 02:52 PM
Garbage.
Ken deliberately sued the N word when he could've used something else.That's why it was wrong,because he chose to use it when he could use something else.
That wasn't BB who did that.
He also came out with the "half slut", "scrubbber", "she likes a god whipping" & several arse comments then went to the bathroom several times and was seen perving at their arses,
so several examples of treating women like sex objects,pieces of meat.
BB didn't make him do any of that.
Yet again its like all the complaints about things being too PC which we so boringly and predictably have to hear so many times over and over again.
Complaints about that as well as making out you haven't seen these things are just attempts as is Katies sh*t about it being about honesty,
these things are all,ironically,dishonestly used,to try and excuse and justify the people you views abuse of others so that in turn if they get away wiuth it it lets you get away with your abuse
and lack of thought for others online and excuses your abuse to others online.
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Yep I think some people fail to realise you don't only have to say something directly to a person for to be deemed offensive.
Thing is though, he was talking to cheggers with no one else in the room, telling him a story word for word.
Cheggers wasn't offended, ken wasn't offended, and by all accounts frank Bruno wasn't offended, so why did bb even bother airing it...cause that is the only offensive thing about it all.
Garbage.
Ken deliberately sued the N word when he could've used something else.That's why it was wrong,because he chose to use it when he could use something else.
That wasn't BB who did that.
He also came out with the "half slut", "scrubbber", "she likes a god whipping" & several arse comments then went to the bathroom several times and was seen perving at their arses,
so several examples of treating women like sex objects,pieces of meat.
BB didn't make him do any of that.
How you or anyone who backs him,which if course I expected,as it's typical of some of the scum who follow this show online,how you or anyone have not seen what he did is beyond me.
Yet again its like all the complaints about things being too PC which we so boringly and predictably have to hear so many times over and over again.
Complaints about that as well as making out you haven't seen these things are just attempts as is Katies sh*t about it being about honesty,
these things are all,ironically,dishonestly used,to try and excuse and justify the people you views abuse of others so that in turn if they get away wiuth it it lets you get away with your abuse
and lack of thought for others online and excuses your abuse to others online.
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oh get off your high horse for god sake.
The half slut etc comments were ken hamming it up, having a laugh and over acting the part..it's what dramatic people do!
Like she's never heard anything like that before for god sake, pure and simple, people are offended by it cause ken looks like your stereotypical old man.
Old men can get flirty and sexual as well you know, stop being so bloody agiest.
Thing is though, he was talking to cheggers with no one else in the room, telling him a story word for word.
Cheggers wasn't offended, ken wasn't offended, and by all accounts frank Bruno wasn't offended, so why did bb even bother airing it...cause that is the only offensive thing about it all.
Because it broke the rules (on top of the previous times he'd done so) and as a result, he was ejected. If you want to watch a show where important events are completely ignored just because they show someone you like in a negative light, I don't know if BB's the one for you.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 02:59 PM
Thing is though, he was talking to cheggers with no one else in the room, telling him a story word for word.
Cheggers wasn't offended, ken wasn't offended, and by all accounts frank Bruno wasn't offended, so why did bb even bother airing it...cause that is the only offensive thing about it all.How do we know Frank was not offended.. I have even questioned the authenticity of his story, lets hear from Frank himself before you decide for him shall we? If does not matter if noone else was in the room, so what it makes it ok for him to use that word behind our backs but not to our faces? What would Alexander have said if he was in the same room? Hearing that word again? not to mention the fact he is live on national T.V with people of all different ethnicities also watching.
Black people DO get offended by the use of that word in today's modern society, no matter what some people might try to drill into your head.. Alexander is the simplest example I can give you.
Because it broke the rules (on top of the previous times he'd done so) and as a result, he was ejected. If you want to watch a show where important events are completely ignored just because they show someone you like in a negative light, I don't know if BB's the one for you.
what important events are you on about?
The paris attacks or something like that?
Sorry but they are cut of from the outside so I doubt we can get any topical debate going.
Perhaps you mean over buying of bananas as being the important event?
who decides whats offensive anyway, cause I'm sure as **** it aint us!!
How do we know Frank was not offended.. I have even questioned the authenticity of his story, lets hear from Frank himself before you decide for him shall we? If does not matter if noone else was in the room, so what it makes it ok for him to use that word behind our backs but not to our faces? What would Alexander have said if he was in the same room? Hearing that word again? not to mention the fact he is live on national T.V with people of all different ethnicities also watching.
Black people DO get offended by the use of that word in today's modern society, no matter what some people might try to drill into your head.. Alexander is the simplest example I can give you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_(music)
he was only describing something that is something.
what important events are you on about?
The paris attacks or something like that?
Sorry but they are cut of from the outside so I doubt we can get any topical debate going.
Perhaps you mean over buying of bananas as being the important event?
who decides whats offensive anyway, cause I'm sure as **** it aint us!!
Yep, yep. I'm changing the conversation to discuss the Paris attacks in a thread about Ken Morley. Nail on the head.
rionablue
13-01-2015, 03:04 PM
she had no right to go into his toilet, with no clothes on under a robe too
he was sick, drunk and vulnerable and she took advantage of him to destroy his reputation, sick bitch
Your user name is a joke if this is what you think. Chloe and the other girls went in to see if he was alright. If Chloe wanted to seduce him or flash him or WHATEVER THE **** you are insinuating about her taking advantage to destroy him I am sure she would use something better than a sick invested TOILET to do it. JESUSSSSSSSSSSS! And lets be honest Jeremy overstepped the line and CHLOE did not say she wanted him removed or carry on the'poor victim' thing she has been accused of doing which she could have for days afterwards if she wanted air time and to be sympathised with
Daniel.
13-01-2015, 03:05 PM
The Truth really is an ironic username for someone who talks such rubbish. Disgusting post.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:05 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_(music)
he was only describing something that is something."Spirituals (or Negro spirituals[1][2][3][4][5][6]) are religious (generally Christian) songs that were created by enslaved African people in the United States."
Point out to US ALL what is wrong with the very first sentence in that link you posted.. If you seriously think that is normal..there is something very wrong with you..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_(music)
he was only describing something that is something.
I doubt Ken was shouting for Frank to turn down his Christian slavery hymns...
Northern Monkey
13-01-2015, 03:06 PM
I thought Ken was brilliant.But nah,It was his fault and he knew what he was doing.
Yep, yep. I'm changing the conversation to discuss the Paris attacks in a thread about Ken Morley. Nail on the head.
well what important events are you on about then, jesus, I don't need to talking down to thanks, just the answer I asked for!
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:08 PM
I doubt Ken was shouting for Frank to turn down his Christian slavery hymns...Exactly.
courses
13-01-2015, 03:09 PM
who decides whats offensive anyway, cause I'm sure as **** it aint us!!
So it didn't offend you, that's fine. It offends other people. They decide what is offensive, because it affects them personally.
"Spirituals (or Negro spirituals[1][2][3][4][5][6]) are religious (generally Christian) songs that were created by enslaved African people in the United States."
Point out to US ALL what is wrong with the very first sentence in that link you posted.. If you seriously think that is normal..there is something very wrong with you..
Like I said, ken hams things up, as a joke he phoned frank Bruno who was in the next dressing room, put on a posh voice and called himself a lord, then asked for him to turn down his negro music.
2 adults, one discussion, 2 people laughing, whats the effin problem in that!..
Daniel.
13-01-2015, 03:10 PM
Welcome back Jose Murhino :clap2:
well what important events are you on about then, jesus, I don't need to talking down to thanks, just the answer I asked for!
The important events of the house, namely the comment that saw Ken ejected. Which I'd hope was self explanatory in my post.
Something about brick walls springs to mind. :umm2:
The ignorance in this thread is astonishing.
So it didn't offend you, that's fine. It offends other people. They decide what is offensive, because it affects them personally.
so what if I get offended by something one of the hm says..Chloe's offended me twice, do I get a look in...no I bloody don't.
Please the masses though eh.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:12 PM
Joke..Chloe the drama queen...Really really went over the top...God I dont think the virgin Mary would have gone to the drama that Chloe did..Running out the room..crying crocodile tears..it worked he got kicked out...labelled a rapist..and has to live with this for the rest of his life...for her part Chloe..wasnt she alone..wasnt he pissed..didnt she have her tits almost in his face...he touched her gown...he didnt swipe it..come on Chloe...you even said the following day it was a misunderstanding...really.....You know my love these anyics happen in pubs clubs discos beaches..every night and day of the week...Yes Jeremy isnt defending himself..he cant..but for gods sake lets put things into proportion...he touched your gown.....
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:12 PM
Like I said, ken hams things up, as a joke he phoned frank Bruno who was in the next dressing room, put on a posh voice and called himself a lord, then asked for him to turn down his negro music.
2 adults, one discussion, 2 people laughing, whats the effin problem in that!..I gonna stop before I get banned again. Don't act like you don't know whats wrong here.
The important events of the house, namely the comment that saw Ken ejected. Which I'd hope was self explanatory in my post.
Something about brick walls springs to mind. :umm2:
so you want to watch the hm yaking on about ken and why he left..I think they covered that in calling him a dirty old man and a pervert...which offended me by the way.
I doubt they will even bother cause someone might mention Compton and get pounced on by a short arsed screeming wally.
I gonna stop before I get banned again. Don't act like you don't know whats wrong here.
BB aired it, bb at fault..which if you care to look is what this thread is about, or was until people decided to come in accusing, pointing and slavering.
courses
13-01-2015, 03:15 PM
so what if I get offended by something one of the hm says..Chloe's offended me twice, do I get a look in...no I bloody don't.
Please the masses though eh.
Chloe has said something racist/sexist/homophobic?
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:18 PM
BB aired it, bb at fault..which if you care to look is what this thread is about, or was until people decided to come in accusing, pointing and slavering.Nah, Ken's fault.. BB did not put words into his mouth nor did they give him a script. I am talking about the important issues.. you are talking about irrelevant ones.. Simple as that.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:18 PM
Totally agree Bb at fault..I didnt find story offensive and are we going to get a list of words that get you banned...its terrible to treat both Ken and Jeremy in this way...when a gang have ensured their fete by mob rule..The bullies Nadia..Chloe..Cammi are laughing there ugly faces off now...mob rule....what an example to set !
Chloe has said something racist/sexist/homophobic?
:shrug:
Marsh.
13-01-2015, 03:19 PM
I doubt Ken was shouting for Frank to turn down his Christian slavery hymns...
:joker:
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:19 PM
Totally agree Bb at fault..I didnt find story offensive and are we going to get a list of words that get you banned...its terrible to treat both Ken and Jeremy in this way...when a gang have ensured their fete by mob rule..The bullies Nadia..Chloe..Cammi are laughing there ugly faces off now...mob rule....what an example to set !Noone needs a list of words.. I think most educated people know what words are acceptable and those which are not. TY.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:20 PM
Your correct of course and in my opinion "negro"is....
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:21 PM
Your correct of course and in my opinion "negro"is....Your saying thats an acceptable word to use?
Nah, Ken's fault.. BB did not put words into his mouth nor did they give him a script. I am talking about the important issues.. you are talking about irrelevant ones.. Simple as that.
yes because telling a story where one of the main points is the word negro, does not offend me in the slightest when it is talked amongst 2 people who clearly are not saying it with hate filled faces or whilst trying to belittle someone.
therefore it is comp-lately irrelevant to me, the important thing here is BB airing it, which is deliberately causing offence, the one thing Ken was not trying to do.
so you want to watch the hm yaking on about ken and why he left..I think they covered that in calling him a dirty old man and a pervert...which offended me by the way.
I doubt they will even bother cause someone might mention Compton and get pounced on by a short arsed screeming wally.
Yes, of course I wanted to be shown why he was ejected. That's how the show works.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:23 PM
yes because telling a story where one of the main points is the word negro, does not offend me in the slightest when it is talked amongst 2 people who clearly are not saying it with hate filled faces or whilst trying to belittle someone.
therefore it is comp-lately irrelevant to me, the important thing here is BB airing it, which is deliberately causing offence, the one thing Ken was not trying to do.I actually think he was saying it to stir controversy. I am not surprised by how you intepret his SECOND use of the word... But then again judging by the rest of your posts I am not expecting much intelligence from you.
Your saying thats an acceptable word to use?
nothing to do with me but, when it was used the way it was, then no..pure and simple.
Take the word ******, are we not to be offended if a black guy says it to another black guy, cause you can watch that on any channel or any internet outlet on a daily basis.
Can we please stop with these sort of threads ty x
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:25 PM
Yes ...it wasnt said with malice..parts of U.S.A use the term daily..but enough of this crap...Im Irish I get called lots of things daily..in pub..in workplace..even at home...its a laugh..its not malicious....huge difference..you need to get out more..or are you one of those guys who just likes to poke their nose in on forums
Yes, of course I wanted to be shown why he was ejected. That's how the show works.
we were. but you still want the hm to rehash the whole episode, why? woul;dnt that in itself be a tad offensive?
we were. but you still want the hm to rehash the whole episode, why? woul;dnt that in itself be a tad offensive?
I never said I did.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:26 PM
nothing to do with me but, when it was used the way it was, then no..pure and simple.
Take the word ******, are we not to be offended if a black guy says it to another black guy, cause you can watch that on any channel or any internet outlet on a daily basis.Listen mate.. Alexander got offended by that use of the word. People DO get offended by that use of the word, noone uses that word anymore.. It is deemed offensive you know this, I know this, Ken knows this. We all know this.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:27 PM
Yes ...it wasnt said with malice..parts of U.S.A use the term daily..but enough of this crap...Im Irish I get called lots of things daily..in pub..in workplace..even at home...its a laugh..its not malicious....huge difference..you need to get out more..or are you one of those guys who just likes to poke their nose in on forumsYes, Alexander was most certainly "laughing"
Daniel.
13-01-2015, 03:27 PM
I really don't understand how people think it's not racist :umm2:
courses
13-01-2015, 03:28 PM
nothing to do with me but, when it was used the way it was, then no..pure and simple.
Take the word ******, are we not to be offended if a black guy says it to another black guy, cause you can watch that on any channel or any internet outlet on a daily basis.
No, we are not to be offended. Black people don't have a history of enslaving black people - it was a word used by white slave owners to insult and dehumanise. Blacks have every right to use the word however they like. I think it takes some of the power out of it you know?
Listen mate.. Alexander got offended by that use of the word. People DO get offended by that use of the word, noone uses that word anymore.. It is deemed offensive you know this, I know this, Ken knows this. We all know this.
How do you know he was offended, he didn't say as such, infact I think he said the complete opposite, but told ken that others could be offended by it.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:30 PM
For your information Im self employed...not that ur being judgemental but I can see where your narrow mindness comes from
rionablue
13-01-2015, 03:33 PM
Joke..Chloe the drama queen...Really really went over the top...God I dont think the virgin Mary would have gone to the drama that Chloe did..Running out the room..crying crocodile tears..it worked he got kicked out...labelled a rapist..and has to live with this for the rest of his life...for her part Chloe..wasnt she alone..wasnt he pissed..didnt she have her tits almost in his face...he touched her gown...he didnt swipe it..come on Chloe...you even said the following day it was a misunderstanding...really.....You know my love these anyics happen in pubs clubs discos beaches..every night and day of the week...Yes Jeremy isnt defending himself..he cant..but for gods sake lets put things into proportion...he touched your gown.....
Your posts about Chloe are absolutely HORRENDOUS and totally untrue. if you look at the other posts you may have two or three 'cronies' that don't like Chloe and might suggest she asked for it. I don't know if you are male or female and frankly I don't give a ****. Your posts are totally sickening. Everyone is entitled to post on here and at times we all post stuff that may call people names or stuff that we believe are warranted. We can all even get hotheaded.
But POST AFTER POST AFTER POST you are slamming a 21 year old girl who was trying to help out another housemate as were a few more of the girls also. According to BOTH OF THEM Jeremy opened the girls gown, not just touched it!!!!!!!!!!!!! She did not label him a rapist or anything, she was ENTITLED to be upset and if BB had asked her OUTRIGHT if she wanted him removed I BET you she would have said no that they would talk about the the following morning. BB just removed him before letting the housemates know. I am no shrinking violet in these forums but in all my time contributing there is NOBODYS posts that has made me feel SICK to my stomach than yours.
If this is slating a poster and against the rules SO BE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:37 PM
I dont think it is...its not something Id use daily but if its said maliciously then yes id find it offensive..funnily enough I have a few non white friends and they find it farsical.Alexander sure found it farCIcal. Notice the correct use of the letter c there.
No, we are not to be offended. Black people don't have a history of enslaving black people - it was a word used by white slave owners to insult and dehumanise. Blacks have every right to use the word however they like. I think it takes some of the power out of it you know?
thanks, so why shoul;d bb air this then, cause it offends.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:39 PM
Cant Alexander speak for himself
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:40 PM
thanks, so why shoul;d bb air this then, cause it offends.Why were those words said in the first place? Ken is to blame.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:40 PM
Cant Alexander speak for himselfHe already did.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:41 PM
Well let Alex fight his own battles..weve seen how mob rule dealt with 2 innocent victims
He already did.
To be fair it was more a slow sort of doped up droll rather than an actual audible interaction.
poppsywoppsy
13-01-2015, 03:46 PM
I must admit the talk between Alexander and Ken, I thought was more a discussion on what and what isn't allowed. Alex was explaining that Kens terms were unacceptable to black people when referring to them personally and generally.
I then felt Ken was informed of the correct way to speak about black people by Alex and BB didn't really need to offer a warning in a discussion type conversation where he was being educated. If he had deliberately called Alex later in abusive terms the n word, then a warning was necessary.
When he repeated his story about Bruno, he was telling it like it was, there was no abuse, in fact Bruno laughed about it.
I feel Ken then should have another word with Alex and BB to sort it out.
But with all the other stuff going on especially with Nadia goading him to put himself in the wrong, perhaps enough was enough for over sensitive BB who are toeing the PC line.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:48 PM
I must admit the talk between Alexander and Ken, I thought was more a discussion on what and what isn't allowed. Alex was explaining that Kens terms were unacceptable to black people when referring to them personally and generally.
I then felt Ken was informed of the correct way to speak about black people by Alex and BB didn't really need to offer a warning in a discussion type conversation where he was being educated. If he had deliberately called Alex later in abusive terms the n word, then a warning was necessary.
When he repeated his story about Bruno, he was telling it like it was, there was no abuse, in fact Bruno laughed about it.
I feel Ken then should have another word with Alex and BB to sort it out.
But with all the other stuff going on especially with Nadia goading him to put himself in the wrong, perhaps enough was enough for over sensitive BB who are toeing the PC line.Ill agree with one thing here.. Nadia was really goading him. But then again one must think how horrible he has been in that house.
Liam-
13-01-2015, 03:48 PM
This is still going on? :laugh:
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:49 PM
Oh here we go...the bullies getting more support...great example to kids to actually condone bullying...incredible
courses
13-01-2015, 03:49 PM
thanks, so why shoul;d bb air this then, cause it offends.
I credit most people with being able to see that it is wrong for him to say it - BB aren't condoning it, as proven by their kicking him out.
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:50 PM
Oh here we go...the bullies getting more support...great example to kids to actually condone bullying...incredibleIm just trying to put myself in her shoes I dont agree with all her goading which she clearly was doing, but something inside her just did not feel the need to hold back and I wonder why.
unoino
13-01-2015, 03:52 PM
BB have condoned it..the bullies got rid of ken and Jeremy....so bullyings ok in our society...really....
Jose Mourinho
13-01-2015, 03:52 PM
BB have condoned it..the bullies got rid of ken and Jeremy....so bullyings ok in our society...really....I admit the final parts of what they did to Ken were a bit cringeworthy.
Niamh.
13-01-2015, 03:54 PM
Closed : This thread is a mess
Niamh.
13-01-2015, 03:58 PM
Right I'm going to reopen this, can you all please have a discussion without getting personal with eachother. You don't want to end up banned
thank you...typed from my samsung smart tv.
empire
16-01-2015, 11:03 PM
on the day he was ejected, he looked very glum, when the bb voice said do you have any thing to say. he just said No very quickly, he seemed very glad to be out of there, I can't blame him for being in a hurry, some of the housemates where out of order, nadia and perez, katie im glad she called up some housemates fake bullsh;t when they heard that he was ejected, who was it threated to walk out if they did not remove him.
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