Ken insists he is not racist

[Calderyon]

http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/208814-celebrity-big-brother-2015-ken-morley-insists-hes-not-racist.html

[Marsh.]

That's what a racist would say.

I suppose his best mate is black too? :idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

Why should he have to explain himself ? his mind,his views

[Marsh.]

Why should he have to explain himself ? his mind,his views

If he insists on making those views public....

[chuff me dizzy]

If he insists on making those views public....

His business no one else's

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

If he insists on making those views public....

His business no one else's

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/05/nonsense.gif

[Pete.]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/05/nonsense.gif
:laugh:

[Cherie]

His business no one else's

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Who is he apologising to? People should change the channel if offended, is it not enough we have Marcus screeching a warning after every ad break :rolleyes:

[Pete.]

Of course he was racist especially after being told by Alexander not to use those words

[Jose Mourinho]

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Who is he apologising to? People should change the channel if offended, is it not enough we have Marcus screeching a warning after every ad break :rolleyes:Probably apologising to the millions he offended. Just switch over if your offended? Hahaha!

[Marsh.]

His business no one else's

Except when he takes his business onto national television. Then people have a right to respond to those views.

[chuff me dizzy]

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Who is he apologising to? People should change the channel if offended, is it not enough we have Marcus screeching a warning after every ad break :rolleyes:

Exactly, who can judge him? who does he have to answer to ? no one ....... isn't it pathetic Cherie the stupid announcements at every ad break !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Probably apologising to the millions he offended. Just switch over if your offended? Hahaha!

He didn't offend me

[Jose Mourinho]

he didn't offend me

maybe he did yo maybe he did not
but 1 thing ima tell yo ass incase yo forgot
theres a hundred million people living in the world today
and when i hear da ^&** ken b saying i wana scream oh lord! And pray
where have we ended up today?!!!

Dats all i gotta say ahhhh yeah signing out.

[Marsh.]

He didn't offend me

You are not the centre of the universe honey.

[chuff me dizzy]

You are not the centre of the universe honey.

Im closer to the centre than some

[Anaesthesia]

The trouble is, Ken's generation were brought up using words that younger generations have since been made aware, could have racist connotations. Do I cringe if I hear my mother talking about coloureds? A bit. Do I think she is racist? 100% no. She is being innocent, and in her mind complimentary when she says that half-castes are very beautiful. It's just the label she learned.

Do I feel outrage that in the 70s there was an actual paint colour called n***** brown? I don't. I would if they brought out that paint colour today. Can you imagine if they tried to screen something like "Love Thy Neighbour?"

All I'm trying to say is that these were the words that were politically correct within that generation, and although they are not acceptable today, I know how difficult it is to adapt to new ways of expression sometimes. I think that racism, or any kind of -ism is really offensive if intended to hurt or demean By this token, and apologies for using the word "token", I think the real crime is ignorance rather than racism.

[microscope]

Why should he have to explain himself ? his mind,his views

Because he has been accused of being a racist, so he has to explain why he said the "N" word to convince people that he didn't mean it in a racist way. His explanation is that his only mistake was saying that "N" word, and I guess he thought it wasn't anywhere near as the "N" word that rhymes with Tigger. But he was wrong (so far as the rules of Big Brother is concerned)

[Jose Mourinho]

The trouble is, Ken's generation were brought up using words that younger generations have since been made aware, could have racist connotations. Do I cringe if I hear my mother talking about coloureds? A bit. Do I think she is racist? 100% no.

Do I feel outrage that in the 70s there was an actual paint colour called n***** brown? I don't. I would if they brought out that paint colour today. Can you imagine if they tried to screen something like "Love Thy Neighbour?"

All I'm trying to say is that these were the words that were politically correct within that generation, and although they are not acceptable today, I know how difficult it is to adapt to new ways of expression sometimes. I think that racism, or any kind of -ism is really offensive if intended to hurt or demean By this token, and apologies for using the word "token", I think the real crime is ignorance rather than racism.I think the first sentence in your post sums up the defence he had in mind all along.. I also think seeing him on loose women, he knew that word was not acceptable anymore. Is he actually racist or simply trying to stir controversy and make a name for himself? I would go with the latter but the fact he was willing to upset so many people for what he though might earn him some kind of notoriety speaks loads about his character.

[chuff me dizzy]

Because he has been accused of being a racist, so he has to explain why he said the "N" word to convince people that he didn't mean it in a racist way. His explanation is that his only mistake was saying that "N" word, and I guess he thought it wasn't anywhere near as the "N" word that rhymes with Tigger. But he was wrong (so far as the rules of Big Brother is concerned)

He HAS to explain ? Who does he have to CONVINCE not me, its none of my business what a chap on Tv thinks ,and cannot thinks who business it would be either

[Pincho Paxton]

I've heard he's the coloured sheep of the family.

[chuff me dizzy]

The trouble is, Ken's generation were brought up using words that younger generations have since been made aware, could have racist connotations. Do I cringe if I hear my mother talking about coloureds? A bit. Do I think she is racist? 100% no. She is being innocent, and in her mind complimentary when she says that half-castes are very beautiful. It's just the label she learned.

Do I feel outrage that in the 70s there was an actual paint colour called n***** brown? I don't. I would if they brought out that paint colour today. Can you imagine if they tried to screen something like "Love Thy Neighbour?"

All I'm trying to say is that these were the words that were politically correct within that generation, and although they are not acceptable today, I know how difficult it is to adapt to new ways of expression sometimes. I think that racism, or any kind of -ism is really offensive if intended to hurt or demean By this token, and apologies for using the word "token", I think the real crime is ignorance rather than racism.

True,as I said the other day i worked in a decorating shop in the late 60s where we sold paint of that colour

[Jose Mourinho]

He HAS to explain ? Who does he have to CONVINCE not me, its none of my business what a chap on Tv thinks ,and cannot thinks who business it would be eitherHe has to convince the many people he DID offend, which may not include yourself, may not include others, but noone can deny it includes a LOT of people.

[Anaesthesia]

I think the first sentence in your post sums up the defence he had in mind all along.. I also think seeing him on loose women, he knew that word was not acceptable anymore. Is he actually racist or simply trying to stir controversy and make a name for himself? I would go with the latter but the fact he was willing to upset so many people for what he though might earn him some kind of notoriety speaks loads about his character.

If this is what he is trying to do, he is a complete a**e. I've not seen Loose Women, but if he is deliberately being a twat when he knows better, he deserves all he gets.

[chuff me dizzy]

He has to convince the many people he DID offend, which may not include yourself, may not include others, but noone can deny it includes a LOT of people.

He has every right to tell them to sod off and look at their own sorry lives

[Jose Mourinho]

If this is what he is trying to do, he is a complete a**e. I've not seen Loose Women, but if he is deliberately being a twat when he knows better, he deserves all he gets.Well, its just my analysis from what I have seen taking into consideration many factors. I could be wrong though.

[bots]

He has to convince the many people he DID offend, which may not include yourself, may not include others, but noone can deny it includes a LOT of people.

He is 71, he is not likely to be working much now, why does he need to explain anything to anyone. He will have picked up a few more quid from his slot in loose women. Job done.

[chuff me dizzy]

He is 71, he is not likely to be working much now, why does he need to explain anything to anyone. He will have picked up a few more quid from his slot in loose women. Job done.

Exactly

[Jose Mourinho]

He is 71, he is not likely to be working much now, why does he need to explain anything to anyone. He will have picked up a few more quid from his slot in loose women. Job done."Job done" You say..at the expense of upsetting millions of people. What a nice man you are. / sarcasm.

[Anaesthesia]

Jose, can I just go off topic and say I love what you're doing with Chelsea.

[Jose Mourinho]

I think the people who defend him are actually closet racists if I am to be brutally honest.

[Jose Mourinho]

Jose, can I just go off topic and say I love what you're doing with Chelsea.haha Thank you my friend.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think the people who defend him are actually closet racists if I am to be brutally honest.

You are free to think what you like ,I defend his right to think what he likes

[Jose Mourinho]

You are free to think what you like ,I defend his right to think what he likesNoone is saying he is not free to think what he likes.. But when he expresses some of those things that he thinks.. people like myself can interpret that as being racist and get offended by it. Quite simply to understand really.

[chuff me dizzy]

Noone is saying he is not free to think what he likes.. But when he expresses some of those things that he thinks.. people like myself can interpret that as being racist and get offended by it. Quite simply to understand really.

Im sure he will sleep well

[Jose Mourinho]

Its kinda like saying we should accept racism because people have a right to believe its ok... sure people have a right to believe anything they want..But we all also have the right to get offended.

[Marsh.]

Im closer to the centre than some

The lack of oxygen explains a lot.

[Jose Mourinho]

The lack of oxygen explains a lot.lmfao

[Anaesthesia]

Noone is saying he is not free to think what he likes.. But when he expresses some of those things that he thinks.. people like myself can interpret that as being racist and get offended by it. Quite simply to understand really.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's not a crime of thought, it is a crime of expression. Anyone can think whatever they like. It's introducing those thoughts publicly *if you are aware you should not do so* that is wrong. (I'm half Arab, and adopted into a white family btw)

[Jose Mourinho]

I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's not a crime of thought, it is a crime of expression. Anyone can think whatever they like. It's introducing those thoughts publicly *if you aware you should not do so* that is wrong.Exactly!

[chuff me dizzy]

I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's not a crime of thought, it is a crime of expression. Anyone can think whatever they like. It's introducing those thoughts publicly *if you aware you should not do so* that is wrong.

So you do not believe in free speech ? you want to be told what you can and cannot say ?

[Anaesthesia]

Come join my thread about free speech, Chuff:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269732

[Jose Mourinho]

So you do not believe in free speech ? you want to be told what you can and cannot say ?Free speech is a legal right. However as I have said countless times... People ARE going to get offended... Noone IS TELLING him what to say and what not to say. What I am trying to make you understand is with the things you say, can come consequences.. I respect peoples beliefs up until the point they offend me.

Freedom of speech works two ways does it not? He has a right to be racist, and I have a right to attacke him for it do I not? Freedom of speech remember?

[MrWong]

True,as I said the other day i worked in a decorating shop in the late 60s where we sold paint of that colour

Do you use the word negro nowadays?

[chuff me dizzy]

Free speech is a legal right. However as I have said countless times... People ARE going to get offended... Noone IS TELLING him what to say and what not to say. What I am trying to make you understand is with the things you say, can come consequences.. I respect peoples beliefs up until the point they offend me.

Freedom of speech works two ways does it not? He has a right to be racist, and I have a right to attacke him for it do I not? Freedom of speech remember?

Yes freedom of speech works 2 ways, but you are attacking someone for using his

[Jose Mourinho]

Yes freedom of speech works 2 ways, but you are attacking someone for using hisWell thats me simply exercising MY Freedom of speech. Happy now?

[Jose Mourinho]

I hope you have learnt much from this exchange young one.

[Cherie]

He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:

[Pete.]

Ken loves the attention and front pages tbh

[Jose Mourinho]

He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:He should have known better than using that word (With that accent) first time round, he clearly knew what he was doing he is a VERY intelligent man. The second time? Welll should I even be discussing the 2nd time? Yes it was a story.. but a quite horrible one to listen to again.. let's hear what Frank has to say about it.

[MrWong]

He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:

He gave his version but it was nothing like what we saw. :shrug:

His version didn't even include Alexanders reaction to him using the word.

[Cherie]

He should have known better than using that word (With that accent) first time round, he clearly knew what he was doing he is a VERY intelligent man. The second time? Welll should I even be discussing the 2nd time? Yes it was a story.. but a quite horrible one to listen to again.. let's hear what Frank has to say about it.

um yes lets, has he bothered to comment yet? Probably too busy getting on with his life.

[Anaesthesia]

He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:

I like looking at womens arses, and I'm straight :) No problem there for me!

[Jose Mourinho]

um yes lets, has he bothered to comment yet? Probably too busy getting on with his life.I'd be surprised if he did not say anything about it sooner or later wouldn't you be?

[Cherie]

He gave his version but it was nothing like what we saw. :shrug:

His version didn't even include Alexanders reaction to him using the word.

No we didn't see it but we did see Alexander sitting with him afterwards, and in the garden last night agreeing with Calum that the girls were going over the top and taking him way too seriously.

[chuff me dizzy]

I hope you have learnt much from this exchange young one.

I learn my own lessons in life, no one teaches me anything, but thanks for the offer

[Patricia4]

Your right chuff he doesn't have to answer to anyone.

[chuff me dizzy]

He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:

:clap1:

[Cherie]

I'd be surprised if he did not say anything about it sooner or later wouldn't you be?

If he was that bothered I would have expected a reaction by now, with social media it takes mere seconds to get it out there don't you think?

[Macie Lightfoot]

why are some people insisting on Ken's freedom of speech when that's a highly American concept to begin with?

[Jose Mourinho]

If he was that bothered I would have expected a reaction by now, with social media it takes mere seconds to get it out there don't you think?This is Frank Bruno.. he has issues at the moment with his mental health.

[Marsh.]

Yes freedom of speech works 2 ways, but you are attacking someone for using his

No it isn't. They're using their right to freedom of speech by responding to Ken's offensive remarks.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean we all shouldn't stand up and say when we think something is out of order/inappropriate. That's exactly the opposite.

[Jose Mourinho]

why are some people insisting on Ken's freedom of speech when that's a highly American concept to begin with?Closet racists. No doubt in my mind.

[Marsh.]

I learn my own lessons in life, no one teaches me anything, but thanks for the offer

No. None of us learn from other people in life. What an outrageous notion. :idc:

[Jose Mourinho]

I mean there should at least be a little bit of empathy for the upset what Ken might have said within any defending of the man, but I have not seen any.

[Cherie]

Closet racists. No doubt in my mind.

Excuse me, could you both stick to discussing the HMs, rather than deciding that people who don't agree with you are racists.

Cheers

[Jose Mourinho]

A touch of understanding all I see is the Ken defenders trying to defend "Freedom of speech" whilst ignoring the content of what was actually said.

[Cherie]

I mean there should at least be a little bit of empathy for the upset what Ken might have said within any defending of the man, but I have not seen any.

:bawling::bawling::bawling:

[Firewire]

In all honesty I don't think Ken is racist. He just used words he shouldn't have.

[Cherie]

A touch of understanding all I see is the Ken defenders trying to defend "Freedom of speech" whilst ignoring the content of what was actually said.

You are ignoring the context so that makes us even :laugh:

[Jose Mourinho]

:bawling::bawling::bawling:Said it all without even speaking. Got no time for you.

[MrWong]

No we didn't see it but we did see Alexander sitting with him afterwards, and in the garden last night agreeing with Calum that the girls were going over the top and taking him way too seriously.

Alexander seems a forgiving bloke and said his piece.

Not sure he'd be so chilled if he heard Ken repeating the word.

The chat with Calum was regarding the sexism. Not the racism.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I love the way we would rather round on an old man for pereived racism and ignore the damage Islam as a religion is doing

#priorities#easytarget

[Pincho Paxton]

I like looking at womens arses, and I'm straight :) No problem there for me!

Can I look at Black women's arses?

[Jose Mourinho]

You are ignoring the context so that makes us even :laugh:Your ignoring the context too.. southern accent? Fat N$%6O? oH PLEASE.

[Jose Mourinho]

I love the way we would rather round on an old man for pereived racism and ignore the damage Islam as a religion is doing

#priorities#easytargetNoones ignoring that.. But that is not what we are discussing here.. Infact why change the subject?

[Anaesthesia]

Can I look at Black women's arses?

You can look at any arse you want. No discrimination there, it's either a good arse, a bad arse, or an indifferent arse. Who cares what colour it is when it's beautiful to the eye ;)

[Jose Mourinho]

In all honesty I don't think Ken is racist. He just used words he shouldn't have.Maybe not, but he sure must have a very low amount of respect for black people if he is going to use words like he did use so freely and say them the way he did.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Noones ignoring that.. But that is not what we are discussing here.. Infact why change the subject?

Because ken is not racist and it seems most on here would not recognise one if they shat one out

If you will pardon my french

[Cherie]

Maybe not, but he sure must have a very low amount of respect for black people if he is going to use words like he did use so freely and say them the way he did.

were you upset that he insulted Irish people Jose? just wondered as you haven't mentioned it.

[Jose Mourinho]

Because ken is not racist and it seems most on here would not recognise one if they shat one out

If you will pardon my frenchNice post.. meant very little only what you think.. I could just as easily say the opposite and use vulgar language.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe not, but he sure must have a very low amount of respect for black people if he is going to use words like he did use so freely and say them the way he did.

Yes and the fact that black people call each othe n....r

What does that tell you?

[Jose Mourinho]

were you upset that he insulted Irish people Jose? just wondered as you haven't mentioned it.Did not hear him do that, but if he did... yes.. I dont stand for any racism or belittling of any race, gender or culture.. I even dont like it when Katie has a pop at Americans.. SO there you go.. anything else?

[Jose Mourinho]

Yes and the fact that black people call each othe n....r

What does that tell you?So its ok for you to call them that too? Is that what your saying ?

[Cherie]

Did not hear him do that, but if he did... yes.. I dont stand for any racism or belittling of any race, gender or culture.. I even dont like it when Katie has a pop at Americans.. SO there you go.. anything else?

Did you watch last nights show, it was hard to miss it :umm2:

[Jose Mourinho]

Did you watch last nights show, it was hard to miss it :umm2:No i dont actually have my butt glued to the chair collecting blisters on it like some people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So its ok for you to call them that too? Is that what your saying ?

No what does it tell you about the people who use that word?

[chuff me dizzy]

were you upset that he insulted Irish people Jose? just wondered as you haven't mentioned it.

:clap1:

[microscope]

He HAS to explain ? Who does he have to CONVINCE not me, its none of my business what a chap on Tv thinks ,and cannot thinks who business it would be either

He has been accused of being a Perv and a Racist, and he is a celebrity and very much in the public eye, and it is very much in his interest for him to explain. It doesn't matter whether you don't care or want to hear his explanation. He is more interested in convincing the masses, not the odd individual.

The Media is always ready to start a circus, regardless of who gets hurt...

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes and the fact that black people call each othe n....r

What does that tell you?

All the time !!

[Crimson Dynamo]

No i dont actually have my butt glued to the chair collecting blisters on it like some people.

Yet hete you are on a dedicated fan site

:idc:

[Jose Mourinho]

No what does it tell you about the people who use that word?What kind of stupid question is that? What does it tell you?

[chuff me dizzy]

He has been accused of being a Perv and a Racist, and he is a celebrity and very much in the public eye, and it is very much in his interest for him to explain. It doesn't matter whether you don't care or want to hear his explanation. He is more interested in convincing the masses, not the odd individual.

The Media is always ready to start a circus, regardless of who gets hurt...

The circus is started by people who dont believe in free speech

[Jose Mourinho]

Yet hete you are on a dedicated fan site

:idc:Oh no please dont compare my fanatism to this show with yours, I have only ever watch 3 series of CBB.

[Jose Mourinho]

The circus is started by people who dont believe in free speechDo we have to go over the free speech again? lmao

[Crimson Dynamo]

What kind of stupid question is that? What does it tell you?

Well you seem to know what kens use if a word tells you about him...

[chuff me dizzy]

Do we have to go over the free speech again? lmao

Thats entirely up to you, but I am off to watch the show

[Anaesthesia]

Yet hete you are on a dedicated fan site

:idc:

That's not valid really. I joined because I am a US BB fan primarily, but I tend to post more in the non-BB posts. The community is much more than BB.

[Jose Mourinho]

Well you seem to know what kens use if a word tells you about him...Ken's not black. Unless you didnt realise..

[Chuckyegg]

If a friend of mine started calling me Big Nose! So I ask them to stop calling me that because I don't like it. But they say "I don't have to stop calling you Big Nose because it's not offensive" I would twat them. Its all about being sensitive to what people want.

[Jose Mourinho]

If a friend of mine started calling me Big Nose! So I ask them to stop calling me that because I don't like it. But they say "I don't have to stop calling you Big Nose because it's not offensive" I would twat them. Its all about being sensitive to what people want.THIS.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not valid really. I joined because I am a US BB fan primarily, but I tend to post more in the non-BB posts. The community is much more than BB.

This is the cbb section and this thread is about the current series

[Jose Mourinho]

This is the cbb section and this thread is about the current seriesAnd the current series has been quite dramatic so you are more likely to get people posting about CBB here who have never posted about CBB before.....

[Anaesthesia]

This is the cbb section and this thread is about the current series

Yup, and I am watching this series of BB, and am commenting in the relevant thread.

Just saying.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Again, there's something rich about people applying freedom of speech (an American concept) to CBB (a British show)

[WyldeFyre]

If a friend of mine started calling me Big Nose! So I ask them to stop calling me that because I don't like it. But they say "I don't have to stop calling you Big Nose because it's not offensive" I would twat them. Its all about being sensitive to what people want.

Wouldn't trying to educate them as to the error of their ways be a wiser response than just "twatting them" as you so eloquently put it?

[Jose Mourinho]

lol bet hes scrolling thru my posts to see if ive posted about CBB before.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If a friend of mine started calling me Big Nose! So I ask them to stop calling me that because I don't like it. But they say "I don't have to stop calling you Big Nose because it's not offensive" I would twat them. Its all about being sensitive to what people want.

That is great but i am afriad that is not even close to what we are talking about

ken was evicted for retelling a 20 year old anecdote where he played the character of a early 20th century toff

Sadly this has not been grasped by many on here. Or indeed understood

[mizzy25]

I never realised using *coloured* to describe a black person was racist till last year ffs its getting ridic now lol

[Jose Mourinho]

Wouldn't trying to educate them as to the error of their ways be a wiser response than just "twatting them" as you so eloquently put it?I have to agree but sometimes its tempting to just do it the old fashioned way!

[Jose Mourinho]

That is great but i am afriad that is not even close to what we are talking about

ken was evicted for retelling a 20 year old anecdote where he played the character of a early 20th century toff

Sadly this has not been grasped by many on here. Or indeed understoodErrr did u deliberately omit the first time and way he used the word in this post?

[Crimson Dynamo]

In fact half the problem is most people had no understanding of the character he was lampooning.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Errr did u deliberately omit the first time and way he used the word in this post?


If you read my post i refer to why he was evicted

[Jose Mourinho]

In fact half the problem is most people had no understanding of the character he was lampooning.Or the problem is most people know that was not the first time he used the word and were quite shocked how he used it the first time.. and were not expecting him to say it again... without at least thinking..

[Anaesthesia]

I never realised using *coloured* to describe a black person was racist till last year ffs its getting ridic now lol

See, it is often hard to know what you should or should not be expressing :(

[Dollface]

I don't think he's racist tbh, the things he said were inappropriate and something i personally wouldn't say, but saying a racist word doesn't automatically make someone racist, if that makes sense.

[Jose Mourinho]

If you read my post i refer to why he was evictedhe was given a warning for using it first time.. he then used it a second time as you have said THAT is the full reason why he was evicted.. not quite as simple as you tried to make it sound.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never realised using *coloured* to describe a black person was racist till last year ffs its getting ridic now lol

Lots people still use it and dont care

As a lady said to me recently

"Im not political and dont care if im correct"

[Jose Mourinho]

I don't think he's racist tbh, the things he said were inappropriate and something i personally wouldn't say, but saying a racist word doesn't automatically make someone racist, if that makes sense.Maybe not racist, but extremely disrespectful.

[Dollface]

Maybe not racist, but extremely disrespectful.

Oh yes definitely, he was rightly removed (but i think that's what he was hoping for; he already had a warning so only a complete tit would repeat the same word after already being warned)

[Jose Mourinho]

Lots people still use it and dont care

As a lady said to me recently

"Im not political and dont care if im correct"Maybe you dont care, but if you wanna use racist words to describe different ethnicities, well that make you racist. Deal with it.

[microscope]

The circus is started by people who dont believe in free speech

The circus is started by the newspaper and magazine and news channel owners who have only one thing in mind, and that is MONEY, MONEY and MONEY!!! and whatever story that comes along (no matter who's life or lives they can destroy by printing their story/incident), they will do it.

Big Brother is a huge reality show and a good juicy story that creates interest and can make them sell a few more newspapers, etc will indeed be printed, so it is they who start the media circus as people believe what they read. So if the headlines say Ken Morley is a Perv and a Racist, they will print that and very gladly, so naturally Ken has to defend himself, or what Perez said in the house could indeed come true

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe you dont care, but if you wanna use racist words to describe different ethnicities, well that make you racist. Deal with it.

Sorry but where did i post that i use racist words?

#reaching

[Chuckyegg]

That is great but i am afriad that is not even close to what we are talking about

ken was evicted for retelling a 20 year old anecdote where he played the character of a early 20th century toff

Sadly this has not been grasped by many on here. Or indeed understood

...because what we are really talking about is the failiure of most people to grasp the true character of an early 20thC toff.

I think you may have joined me off topic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

...because what we are really talking about is the failiure of most people to grasp the true character of an early 20thC toff.

I think you may have joined me off topic.

Its not off tpoic its anti hysteria

[Jose Mourinho]

Sorry but where did i post that i use racist words?

#reachingDid I say you used racist words?? *Searching* I am explaining to you things which are clearly not being absorbed by that thing in your skull.

[Chuckyegg]

Its a thread about Kens racism

[Jose Mourinho]

This is like talking to a bot with no human emotions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did I say you used racist words?? *Searching* I am explaining to you things which are clearly not being absorbed by that thing in your skull.

And at last we get the personal insults

Lol

[Jose Mourinho]

And at last we get the personal insults

LolWhat about the bot one?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What about the bot one?

Sorry it did not compute

[Jose Mourinho]

They are not really insults though.. Freedom of speech is all.

[Chuckyegg]

I never realised using *coloured* to describe a black person was racist till last year ffs its getting ridic now lol

This has made me want to take a shower and probably not come onto this site for a few days til I forget about the level of the company I am keeping on here.

[Jose Mourinho]

Oh well leather you came and tried to be the hero and sadly failed.. Off to watch the show now..I'll b back later to finish you off OOPS! I mean debate* with you cya!

[Beso]

Oh well leather you came and tried to be the hero and sadly failed.. Off to watch the show now..I'll b back later to finish you off OOPS! I mean debate* with you cya!

i dare to think what drivel was posted pre edit!:hehe: