'I was hoping there were no Arabs in the Celebrity Big Brother house'

[Udanax]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2911215/I-hoping-no-Arabs-Celebrity-Big-Brother-house-Alexander-O-Neal-reveals-shocking-views-admitting-hates-racism.html

:worry:

Transcript of what was said:

'I try not to hate anybody but [Arabs] are probably my most disliked and most distrustful person in the whole world,'

'My take on it is this: if you hate me or don't like me one time, it's OK because I don't like you ten times. And now you come back to get through that, so I was so hoping I didn't have to deal with Arabs in the Big Brother house.'

'I've never approved of them, I've never approved of them running our stores. We've got Arabs in Mississippi, I'm like 'What the *******?' We're out in the country here and you've got Arabs running this country store?'

[Crimson Dynamo]

:shocked: Interview he gave to the Sun

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/15/24A3629300000578-2911215-image-m-15_1421309819908.jpg


'I was hoping there were no Arabs in the Celebrity Big Brother house'

'I try not to hate anybody but [Arabs] are probably my most disliked and most distrustful person in the whole world,' he said.

'My take on it is this: if you hate me or don't like me one time, it's OK because I don't like you ten times. And now you come back to get through that, so I was so hoping I didn't have to deal with Arabs in the Big Brother house.'

The singer, 61, also described his upbringing in Mississippi and his apparent dislike of the Arabs who live in the area, while claiming that 'black people are very trusting to people of colour'.

'But I've never approved of them, I've never approved of them running our stores. We've got Arabs in Mississippi, I'm like 'What the *******?' We're out in the country here and you've got Arabs running this country store,' he added.


what a hypocrite having a go at poor Ken. smh











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[GiRTh]

Disgraceful.

[GiRTh]

Two threads on this.

www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270525

[Cherie]

This has been posted in another thread, so far the outrage level has been hovering at minus 10

[Jose Mourinho]

omg NOT AGAIN.

[Cherie]

As I said on the other thread, there is very little outrage about this, I guess we used it all up on Ken!

[Jose Mourinho]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2911215/I-hoping-no-Arabs-Celebrity-Big-Brother-house-Alexander-O-Neal-reveals-shocking-views-admitting-hates-racism.html

:worry:

Transcript of what was said:

'I try not to hate anybody but [Arabs] are probably my most disliked and most distrustful person in the whole world,'

'My take on it is this: if you hate me or don't like me one time, it's OK because I don't like you ten times. And now you come back to get through that, so I was so hoping I didn't have to deal with Arabs in the Big Brother house.'

'I've never approved of them, I've never approved of them running our stores. We've got Arabs in Mississippi, I'm like 'What the *******?' We're out in the country here and you've got Arabs running this country store?'If he really said that thats worst than anything Ken did.

[Udanax]

This has been posted in another thread, so far the outrage level has been hovering at minus 10

Srry I'm not clairvoyant! How was I supposed 2 know that LT would make a thread 2 minutes after I made mine? :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Racist bastard.Tut tut:nono:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:shocked: Interview he gave to the Sun

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/15/24A3629300000578-2911215-image-m-15_1421309819908.jpg


'I was hoping there were no Arabs in the Celebrity Big Brother house'

'I try not to hate anybody but [Arabs] are probably my most disliked and most distrustful person in the whole world,' he said.

'My take on it is this: if you hate me or don't like me one time, it's OK because I don't like you ten times. And now you come back to get through that, so I was so hoping I didn't have to deal with Arabs in the Big Brother house.'

The singer, 61, also described his upbringing in Mississippi and his apparent dislike of the Arabs who live in the area, while claiming that 'black people are very trusting to people of colour'.

'But I've never approved of them, I've never approved of them running our stores. We've got Arabs in Mississippi, I'm like 'What the *******?' We're out in the country here and you've got Arabs running this country store,' he added.


what a hypocrite having a go at poor Ken. smh











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Whilst this is shocking I have to say he did not have a go at Ken he handled it very gracefully.

Anyway lets get Shilpa back in and handcuff them together lol.

[Cherie]

Whilst this is shocking I have to say he did not have a go at Ken he handled it very gracefully.

Anyway lets get Shilpa back in and handcuff them together lol.

He handled it superbly, however that is hardly the point, where is all the outrage towards Alexander :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

mods can we merge so we can have one thread where all the "ooh ken is a racist and isnt AO so great" members can gorge themselves on humble pie?

[Jose Mourinho]

mods can we merge so we can have one thread where all the "ooh ken is a racist and isnt AO so great" members can gorge themselves on humble pie?Both just as bad each other I am appalled by Alex and Ken. Alex has been directly and bluntly racist though quite sickening.

[Cherie]

Srry I'm not clairvoyant! How was I supposed 2 know that LT would make a thread 2 minutes after I made mine? :laugh:

I wasn't talking about your thread, my point was it was posted earlier today in another thread and it's been brushed aside, I didn't see LT's thread until afterwards..

[Pincho Paxton]

Well I said that Nadia would miss her family, and want to leave the house, and I also said that Alex would be the next housemate in trouble. I'm on a roll!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Alex needs to go, he got ken evicted and now look


unbelievable

[Jose Mourinho]

Alex needs to go, he got ken evicted and now look


unbelievable

Look Farage, even though Alex is totally racist by these remarks don't try and rejoice and make it work in your favour ala Farge@Charlie Hebdo.Not even do you support the man, you also act like him.

They are both idiots. But you can join them on that idiot list too.

[Udanax]

Yeah, obviously what Alex said isn't acceptable at all but LT using it to suit his racist agenda isn't okay either.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Alex needs to go, he got ken evicted and now look


unbelievable

How did he get Ken evicted lol.


Please explain this to me because I must be watching a different show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah, obviously what Alex said isn't acceptable at all but LT using it to suit his racist agenda isn't okay either.

Ken was removed for recounting a 20 year old anecdote where he played a racist character from the 40s

Alex was just being a racist

[Jose Mourinho]

Ken was removed for recounting a 20 year old anecdote where he played a racist character from the 40s

Alex was just being a racistAgain I refuse to discuss race issues over the internet with someone who supports Nigel Farage and UKIP but for the record don't try and avoid the first time Ken used the term with the southern accent and the pickaninny one too.


Thanks.
Bye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

How did he get Ken evicted lol.


Please explain this to me because I must be watching a different show.

pulling him up and playing the holier than thou act when ken was just joking around and not being serious

he should have said "well ken we dont use that term now (and yes he was speaking for every black person on earth it seems:shrug:) but can i just add that I cant fecking abide all Arabs, they make me ill"


i doubt the oputcome would have been the same

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again I refuse to discuss race issues over the internet with someone who supports Nigel Farage and UKIP /snip


then dont:wavey:

[Samm]

Welpppp

[smudgie]

Oh dear, pretty disgusting really.

Would it have any consequences on hm being in the house if he said it before he entered?
Other than people not wanting to vote to save a racist that is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And Nadia is a Jordanian


if she finds this out....


maybe someone will shout over the wall to warn her??

[daniel-lewis-1985]

pulling him up and playing the holier than thou act when ken was just joking around and not being serious

he should have said "well ken we dont use that term now (and yes he was speaking for every black person on earth it seems:shrug:) but can i just add that I cant fecking abide all Arabs, they make me ill"


i doubt the oputcome would have been the same

Oh god lol im not even going to continue this discussion.

You support UKIP.

Enough said.

[RichardG]

Third removal? :worry:

if anything that's worse than what Ken said

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh god lol im not even going to continue this discussion.

You support UKIP.

Enough said.

well when you are old enough to vote you may find out they are legitimate party, despite what twitter told you


:rolleyes:

[Lostie!]

Well, this is disappointing. :(

[Jose Mourinho]

well when you are old enough to vote you may find out they are legitimate party, despite what twitter told you


:rolleyes:Indeed

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-mep-blasted-after-calling-4071185

[Jose Mourinho]

REKT

[daniel-lewis-1985]

well when you are old enough to vote you may find out they are legitimate party, despite what twitter told you


:rolleyes:

Im almost 30 mate.

Moving on.

[MTVN]

Third removal? :worry:

if anything that's worse than what Ken said

Didn't say it in the house though so there's nothing they can do really

[Crimson Dynamo]

Didn't say it in the house though so there's nothing they can do really

wait till the "so Nadia where do you and your family come from" conversation...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Im almost 30 mate.

Moving on.

i am not your "m8"

[RichardG]

Didn't say it in the house though so there's nothing they can do really

oh

I didn't read the article, just assumed he must have said it in the house :laugh:

[Jose Mourinho]

i am not your "m8"I doubt he really wants to be your m8 tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh

I didn't read the whole article, just assumed he must have said it in the house :laugh:

no it was only to a Sun reporter :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I doubt he really wants to be your m8 tbh.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1570538/thumbs/o-NIGEL-FARAGE-LAUGHING-facebook.jpg

[GiRTh]

Didn't say it in the house though so there's nothing they can do really
Is this true? Then there is no story here. Case closed, discussion over.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

i am not your "m8"

I never said "m8" I don't type like a 12 year old circa 1999.

[Jose Mourinho]

I never said "m8" I don't type like a 12 year old circa 1999.REKT

[GiRTh]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1570538/thumbs/o-NIGEL-FARAGE-LAUGHING-facebook.jpgThats a disturbing picture, He needs to sort his teeth out. Is it all the drinking and smoking why he looks so rough?

[Jose Mourinho]

Geez that pic of Nigel Farage looks like a velociraptor

[Pincho Paxton]

Is this true? Then there is no story here. Case closed, discussion over.

It was about the house though, so it ties in to the house.

[GiRTh]

It was about the house though, so it ties in to the house.No it doesn't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never said "m8" I don't type like a 12 year old circa 1999.

no Daniel, i dont want us to argue as i do like your postings so sorry if i offended you

:love:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

no Daniel, i dont want us to argue as i do like your postings so sorry if i offended you

:love:

Lets spoon.

[GiRTh]

no Daniel, i dont want us to argue as i do like your postings so sorry if i offended you

:love:
So sweet. Why you never say things like that to me.:idc:

[abhorson]

This is an east/west thing. Held up by many in America as it is in the east. Call it what you will but it will not change. More politics than anything else.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So sweet. Why you never say things like that to me.:idc:

:joker:

Girth you know I love you and your hand-wringing liberal ways really

:love:

[abhorson]

And with the spirit of freedom of speech, i can see why. Alexander now rocks!

[GiRTh]

:joker:

Girth you know I love you and your hand-wringing liberal ways really

:love:
:love:

[Brother Leon]

Oh dear.

[Raph]

Disgusting thing to say, I like him too but that's just not cool

[The Penguin]

Given that black on black violence is at epidemic proportions both in America and the UK I think he really should really have feared another black person in the house.

[Jose Mourinho]

And with the spirit of freedom of speech, i can see why. Alexander now rocks!This is how freedom of speech causes problems, Alexander now has BIG problems.

[abhorson]

Given that black on black violence is at epidemic proportions both in America and the UK I think he really should really have feared another black person in the house.

Is epedemic the right word really?

Internal politics will always be seen in a different light to Global politics and for some, other countries attacking your own. I am sure Alexander meant only this.

[Cherie]

It was about the house though, so it ties in to the house.

:clap2:

[abhorson]

This is how freedom of speech causes problems, Alexander now has BIG problems.

How?

[The Penguin]

Is epedemic the right word really?

Internal politics will always be seen in a different light to Global politics and for some, other countries attacking your own. I am sure Alexander meant only this.

No, he was talking about stores in Mississippi. It's probably like the whole LA riot thing where blacks targeted Koreans. Arabs are similar in many parts of America. They own stores and some blacks feel they watch blacks when blacks come in and aren't nice to black customers.
That's probably where he was coming from. I doubt he was talking about global politics.

[abhorson]

No, he was talking about stores in Mississippi. It's probably like the whole LA riot thing where blacks targeted Koreans. Arabs are similar in many parts of America. They own stores and some blacks feel they watch blacks when blacks come in and aren't nice to black customers.
That's probably where he was coming from. I doubt he was talking about global politics.


You are generalising. After 9/11, A lot of Americans would share his view, i am sure.

I see where you are trying to go, but white people kill white people too.

[abhorson]

Anyway, i will save politics for the Guardian.

Alexander imo is cool.

[Jules2]

Alex needs to go, he got ken evicted and now look


unbelievable
Hi LT,

Alex didnt get Ken evicted, he was very discrete with him. TBH I do not see what the fuss was about, why Ken and Jeremy were evicted. I didnt see Ken as racist nor Jeremy as sexist. They are each part and parcel of today's culture the same as Alex is. On the other hand I see the young girls as domineering and pathetic, they are young and have a long way to go in life.

[The Penguin]

You are generalising. After 9/11, A lot of Americans would share his view, i am sure.

I see where you are trying to go, but white people kill white people too.

A lot white Americans probably think "I'm glad there are no blacks in this neighbourhood" when they move into a new house.

Black crime is a major burden on American society. Go to any youtube video about Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown and see how many people think justice was done.

[Pete.]

:omg:

[Jules2]

This is how freedom of speech causes problems, Alexander now has BIG problems.


I doubt it very much, if he is evicted this week then I am sure he will be glad, he is out of his depth in there really as there isnt enough fun. The usual ones are domineering the procedures, would love to see more of Alex but he is hardly mentioned. Last nights show was all about Perez and the one who is queen, his remarks to her and her overstated attitude, methinks she protested too much. For all that though, she didnt save Chloe from being nominated....no loyalty there.

Mind you I would rather say I hope that there arent any Perez' in there but of course he wouldnt have known that.

There is good and bad in all cultures and we do not know what each person has experienced in life. So far as we know nothing has been said in the house and this is what counts. He comes across as a caring person, a gentleman. I would think though that he can stand up for himself.

[SoBig]

Hi LT,

Alex didnt get Ken evicted, he was very discrete with him. TBH I do not see what the fuss was about, why Ken and Jeremy were evicted. I didnt see Ken as racist nor Jeremy as sexist. They are each part and parcel of today's culture the same as Alex is. On the other hand I see the young girls as domineering and pathetic, they are young and have a long way to go in life.
Are you kidding me? You don't think opening up a girl's robe to expose her breasts is wrong? He should be charged with sexual assault.

[Jose Mourinho]

I doubt it very much, if he is evicted this week then I am sure he will be glad, he is out of his depth in there really as there isnt enough fun. The usual ones are domineering the procedures, would love to see more of Alex but he is hardly mentioned. Last nights show was all about Perez and the one who is queen, his remarks to her and her overstated attitude, methinks she protested too much. For all that though, she didnt save Chloe from being nominated....no loyalty there.

Mind you I would rather say I hope that there arent any Perez' in there but of course he wouldnt have known that.

There is good and bad in all cultures and we do not know what each person has experienced in life. So far as we know nothing has been said in the house and this is what counts. He comes across as a caring person, a gentleman. I would think though that he can stand up for himself.OFC its gonna cause him problems, he was blatantly racist towards Arabs. People dont like racist people. He should not be generalizing people with such shallow minded views. BYE BYE Alex.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I woukd imagine a lot of amricans share his views and almost every reader of the uk tabloids

[Jose Mourinho]

I woukd imagine a lot of amricans share his views and almost every reader of the uk tabloidsLMFAO what makes you say this? So your saying ALL arabs are terrorists? HAHAHA typical comment from A UKIP supporter I need some comedy plz reply. Oh and I'd actually beg to differ, most Americans do not believe ALL Arabs are terrorists and you should not speak for readers of UK tabloids. You are one, voice, a small petty one at that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LMFAO what makes you say this? So your saying ALL arabs are terrorists? HAHAHA typical comment from A UKIP supporter I need some comedy plz reply. Oh and I'd actually beg to differ, most Americans do not believe ALL Arabs are terrorists and you should not speak for readers of UK tabloids. You are one, voice, a small petty one at that.

No you just rather strangely posted that.

[Jose Mourinho]

No you just rather strangely posted that.Well I'm assuming you read the UK tabloids so you share Alex's views on Arabs? I know you support UKIP so it might be a silly question but I'd like to see first hand how shallow people like you are.

[Jose Mourinho]

I read the UK tabloids and I sure as hell don't share his bizarre views. I know a whole load of people who also read the Uk tabloids who don't share his bizarre views.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I read the UK tabloids and I sure as hell don't share his bizarre views. I know a whole load of people who also read the Uk tabloids who don't share his bizarre views.

Tabloid reader......figures

Express i imagine

:idc:

[Heaven = Winner]

Awful :l

[Jose Mourinho]

Tabloid reader......figures

Express i imagine

:idc:You still avoid the question... Do you or do you not share Alex's views on Arabs? LMAO.. simpe question is it not?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You still avoid the question... Do you or do you not share Alex's views on Arabs? LMAO.. simpe question is it not?

I understand tabloids deal in simple issues but i cannot debate with one of thier readers who condones their racist, sexist and homophobic outpourings

Bye

[wendywillow]

oh jeez, now alex? this might hurt his chances


:facepalm:


talk about out of touch

[sassysocks]

Pretty fed up with all these people trying so hard to be oh so politically correct constantly trying to tell everyone else how to think and what they can and can't say.

Alexander stated an honest and personal opinion, whether you agree or not - deal with it.

[Jose Mourinho]

I understand tabloids deal in simple issues but i cannot debate with one of thier readers who condones their racist, sexist and homophobic outpourings

ByeAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! All I said was I read them, never once did I say I believe what I read or agree with it.. Funny how you lack so much intelligence that you think you can come to a conclusion about someone BASED ON such little information. Your stupidity yet again exposed.

So there we have it people .. yet again it appears Leather Trumpet (UKIP SUPPORTER AND NIGEL FARAGE FAN) comes to radical conclusions based on little, if any information much in the same way he comes to form radical conclusions about people with only the knowledge of what colour their skin is, or which country they are from.. Hilarious.

[Jose Mourinho]

Pretty fed up with all these people trying so hard to be oh so politically correct constantly trying to tell everyone else how to think and what they can and can't say.

Alexander stated an honest and personal opinion, whether you agree or not - deal with it.It's an honest and personal opinion for sure..and here is my honest and personal opinion. He is racist. Thanks.

[abhorson]

A lot white Americans probably think "I'm glad there are no blacks in this neighbourhood" when they move into a new house.

Black crime is a major burden on American society. Go to any youtube video about Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown and see how many people think justice was done.


Told you. I see what you are trying to do. Save it for a different site.

[The Penguin]

Told you. I see what you are trying to do. Save it for a different site.

Nope. Race was brought into CBB by the person who complained about Ken's use of language and then said something much worse about a race of people.

[The Penguin]

I think that if Alexander O Neal wants something to disapprove of he needs to look at his own race who make up 12% of the population of America yet around 50% of the perpetrators of murders, robberies, rapes. That's certainly something to disapprove of.

[abhorson]

It's an honest and personal opinion for sure..and here is my honest and personal opinion. He is racist. Thanks.

And i could say the same to you because Alexander is black. Don't you see the irony?

He has his views because many thousands of his countrymen were killed in horrific ways in recent years mainly by fanatics whom support a certain religion. And that is human nature. We all know it is mad bastards that do these crimes.

Are you a racist?

[Jose Mourinho]

And i could say the same to you because Alexander is black. Don't you see the irony?

He has his views because many thousands of his countrymen were killed in horrific ways in recent years mainly by fanatics whom support a certain religion. And that is human nature. We all know it is mad bastards that do these crimes.

Are you a racist?No you can't say the same thing to me I never mentioned anything about his race. Not defending what a small minority have done, but that does not mean it's ok for him to BLAME every Arab.

[abhorson]

Nope. Race was brought into CBB by the person who complained about Ken's use of language and then said something much worse about a race of people.


And you over the last few hours have said the word black on multiple occasions to make some weird point about the USA and the UK.

What exactly is your point?

[The Penguin]

And i could say the same to you because Alexander is black. Don't you see the irony?

He has his views because many thousands of his countrymen were killed in horrific ways in recent years mainly by fanatics whom support a certain religion. And that is human nature. We all know it is mad bastards that do these crimes.

Are you a racist?

Most arabs in America are actually Lebanese Christians and many are atheists and agnostic. He never said muslims. I doubt he dislikes Muhammad Ali. Read his full comment. He was clearly talking about a domestic issue of tension between arab store owners and blacks.
Did you actually read the whole thing of what he said?

[abhorson]

No you can't say the same thing to me I never mentioned anything about his race. Not defending what a small minority have done, but that does not mean it's ok for him to BLAME every Arab.

Fair enough. but that does not make Alexander racist. Scared maybe. I am sure he knows it is only nutters that are terrorists or those that believe that a religion should not be open to satire.

[sassysocks]

It's an honest and personal opinion for sure..and here is my honest and personal opinion. He is racist. Thanks.

Or maybe he simply doesn't like Arabs. His right.

If he said he didn't like the French or the Italians would he also be called racist?

[abhorson]

Most arabs in America are actually Lebanese Christians and many are atheists and agnostic. He never said muslims. I doubt he dislikes Muhammad Ali. Read his full comment. He was clearly talking about a domestic issue of tension between arab store owners and blacks.
Did you actually read the whole thing of what he said?

You are putting your opinions across for goodness sake.

Ali could be his idol. Please stop this nonsense.

[abhorson]

No you can't say the same thing to me I never mentioned anything about his race. Not defending what a small minority have done, but that does not mean it's ok for him to BLAME every Arab.

America is not a race. Alexander is an American.

[Jose Mourinho]

America is not a race. Alexander is an American.Duh! did you even read what I was replying to?

[The Penguin]

You are putting your opinions across for goodness sake.

Ali could be his idol. Please stop this nonsense.

I'm reading what he actually said. He never said anything about muslims so why are you keep making it about that? He was talking specifically about his experiences with arabs in America, most of whom are not muslims.

You're the one spouting nonsense. You didn't even read his actual comments.

[Jose Mourinho]

Or maybe he simply doesn't like Arabs. His right.

If he said he didn't like the French or the Italians would he also be called racist?French and Italian is not a race.

[The Penguin]

Or maybe he simply doesn't like Arabs. His right.

If he said he didn't like the French or the Italians would he also be called racist?

And what if someone didn't like blacks and said it before going into the house. Would that be their right?
Why was Ken evicted?

[Jose Mourinho]

I am not even sure half those shop workers he was describing are even Arab.

[abhorson]

Duh! did you even read what I was replying to?

Yes and you assume that scared people whether right or wrong associate all that they are scared about as a racist.

To me that is a sad thing. And all too simplistic. And one that i will have no truck with.

[Jose Mourinho]

Yes and you assume that scared people whether right or wrong associate all that they are scared about as a racist.

To me that is a sad thing. And all too simplistic. And one that i will have no truck with.
Alexander is a race.. he is black but yes, also American, so you sir are wrong. And don't try to make me out to be someone who jumps at the slightest things with regards to culture and race, we have been discussing some BIG incidents here.

[abhorson]

Alexander is a race.. he is black but yes, also American, so you sir are wrong.

Alexander is a name!

[Jose Mourinho]

Alexander is a name!Ofc course it is but I thought we were discussing the person Alexnder O neal.. Do I seriously have to spell that out to you? Or you just here to chat rubbish?

[abhorson]

Ofc course it is but I thought we were discussing the person Alexnder O neal.. Do I seriously have to spell that out to you? Or you just here to chat rubbish?

I will leave that to you Sir.

[Jose Mourinho]

I will leave that to you Sir.Your probably better at it than me judging by your last few posts but ok.

[The Penguin]

Abhorson just latched into Alexanders comments and assumed without actually reading what he said that he was referring to muslim terrorists. He never said the word "muslim" or mentioned terrorism once. He only referred to arabs. In America most arabs are Christians.
He was clearly talking about arab storeowners where he grew up and his experiences with them.

[Jose Mourinho]

Abhorson just latched into Alexanders comments and assumed without actually reading what he said that he was referring to muslim terrorists. He never said the word "muslim" or mentioned terrorism once. He only referred to arabs. In America most arabs are Christians.
He was clearly talking about arab storeowners where he grew up and his experiences with them.Like most shallow minded people unfortunately he avoids the detail and goes with the most simple information to form opinions :)

[abhorson]

Just like BB, you decide!

[The Penguin]

Like most shallow minded people unfortunately he avoids the detail and goes with the most simple information to form opinions :)

Yes I know and he was claiming I was somehow "making assumptions" by referring to what Alexander actually said.
He was the one making massive assumptions.

[Jose Mourinho]

Yes I know and he was claiming I was somehow "making assumptions" by referring to what Alexander actually said.
He was the one making massive assumptions.lol he did that to me too or tried. You see some people come to this forum and discuss things with passion because they believe in what they write about, some come here to argue for the sake of it and will drivel on and avoid the reality in order to try to win an argument. He forms part of the latter. And there are many of those, I wish TIBB could design a programme to auto ignore these fools.

[Mystic Mock]

Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

[Jules2]

Are you kidding me? You don't think opening up a girl's robe to expose her breasts is wrong? He should be charged with sexual assault.

So much has happened in past BBs I think last year it would have just been smacked wrists. New grounds now, I felt really sorry for him tbh. He slipped up in his drunken stupour. It could have all been handled differently.

[Mystic Mock]

Given that black on black violence is at epidemic proportions both in America and the UK I think he really should really have feared another black person in the house.

Do black people get jealous of each other like women then?:evilgrin:

[sassysocks]

So much has happened in past BBs I think last year it would have just been smacked wrists. New grounds now, I felt really sorry for him tbh. He slipped up in his drunken stupour. It could have all been handled differently.

BB have become hysterical this year. Total hypocrites - they whip everyone up into a frenzy with all the freaks they put in there aimed at causing friction constanly manipulating everyone into fights - then censor any free speech from the stressed, hyped-up hms.

They chuck out two hms for very little, despite all the hype, then sit back and allow some hms to insult and bully others at will. The show is a joke.

So a drunken tug at a dressing-gown, some unpopular and politically incorrect comments from an older man are unacceptable but bullying, name-calling and ganging-up on other hms is okay. Only in BBs twisted, hypocritical world.

[The Penguin]

Do black people get jealous of each other like women then?:evilgrin:

A lot of the black on black violence is turf wars between gangs so in a way it's jealousy.
Most black people aren't involved in any crime but it's a major problem which black people are in denial about. They prefer to focus on the rare occasion when a cop kills an unarmed black boy.

[The Penguin]

Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

Ken's comments were nothing compared to Alexander's.

[Jules2]

Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

Everything in life depends on the reason behind the deed. Ken wasnt being viscious to Alex, Alex just pointed out to him that in the company of some black people he wouldnt have gotten away with it. The other so called slight was once again generalising on a conversation.
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Generalising:-
Neither Ken nor Alex will suffer tbh as they are of the age where they have made their way in life. Whilst some of the public will criticise the other half will praise. This is life. Each one knows what is in their hearts. Each have their own fanbase. I do feel though that Ken may be annoyed, Alex will just carry on.

We all have our phobias, likes and dislikes, we all discuss our thoughts but naturally it doesnt go to press :cheer2:

I hope that Alex gets to the final as I would like to hear more of his singing and, I just like him......

[Jules2]

Nope. Race was brought into CBB by the person who complained about Ken's use of language and then said something much worse about a race of people.

The thing is though Alex didnt complain as such, he advised Ken that should he use the word to another black man he may be in trouble. Ken then went on to say about the children, once again Alex told him that that would also be taken the wrong way in this day and age. So far as we know Alex didnt go around talking about it, he was just being a friend to Ken.

I can remember episodes in the past when so much has been made of the same thing plus obesity, all sorts, just for camera attention. Chloe had her pennysworth with Jeremy, such a fuss was made. Nadia and Perez went to the diaryroom and threatened that they would walk out if Ken wasnt removed.....Imo Nadia made things a thousand times worse.

[abhorson]

A lot of the black on black violence is turf wars between gangs so in a way it's jealousy.
Most black people aren't involved in any crime but it's a major problem which black people are in denial about. They prefer to focus on the rare occasion when a cop kills an unarmed black boy.


Do you still not see what you are saying!

But i love freedom of speech, so can take it.

[Jules2]

BB have become hysterical this year. Total hypocrites - they whip everyone up into a frenzy with all the freaks they put in there aimed at causing friction constanly manipulating everyone into fights - then censor any free speech from the stressed, hyped-up hms.

They chuck out two hms for very little, despite all the hype, then sit back and allow some hms to insult and bully others at will. The show is a joke.

So a drunken tug at a dressing-gown, some unpopular and politically incorrect comments from an older man are unacceptable but bullying, name-calling and ganging-up on other hms is okay. Only in BBs twisted, hypocritical world.

Hi Sassy, so far they havent put negative things in the air, I wonder if they will. I thought that Katies beginnings would have been shown by now. One big joke with Preze playing up to the cameras, what chance do the others have? He goes way over the top imo.

[abhorson]

Ken's comments were nothing compared to Alexander's.

Jesus Christ. Hope i won't be shot for that.

[Jose Mourinho]

BB have become hysterical this year. Total hypocrites - they whip everyone up into a frenzy with all the freaks they put in there aimed at causing friction constanly manipulating everyone into fights - then censor any free speech from the stressed, hyped-up hms.

They chuck out two hms for very little, despite all the hype, then sit back and allow some hms to insult and bully others at will. The show is a joke.

So a drunken tug at a dressing-gown, some unpopular and politically incorrect comments from an older man are unacceptable but bullying, name-calling and ganging-up on other hms is okay. Only in BBs twisted, hypocritical world.What does free speech mean to you Sassy?

[Jose Mourinho]

Do you still not see what you are saying!

But i love freedom of speech, so can take it.What does free speech mean to you?

[abhorson]

What does free speech mean to you?


Any thing within the law of the land. And for yourself?

[Jose Mourinho]

Any thing within the law of the land. And for yourself?OKI. Thanks for your reply.

To me Freedom of speech being allowed to SAY what you want through any means.. TEXT or VERBAL (NOT PHYSICAL) about anything you want.

But remember how powerful that is.. IT WORKS TWO WAYS.

[Mystic Mock]

I believe that people can say whatever they like about race, nationality, Religion, weight, or hair, but I also believe that people should have the right to think that you're out of order for attacking those things without being tagged as “PC” or a “crazy Leftie” but that's just my feelings on it anyway.

[Jose Mourinho]

I believe that people can say whatever they like about race, nationality, Religion, weight, or hair, but I also believe that people should have the right to think that you're out of order for attacking those things without being tagged as “PC” or a “crazy Leftie” but that's just my feelings on it anyway.
OFC Bro that comes under Freedom of speech too.

[Jose Mourinho]

So long as noone does a AL QAEIDA its all good speak away, but expect verbal responses. THAT IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

[Jose Mourinho]

People think FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS every1 must turn a cheek to wat u say.. nooo.. it means u can voice speech in any way you wish.

[Jose Mourinho]

What a hilarious world it would be if we all had to swallow other peoples verbal input... I really would not want that cos I have the heart of an angel. But omg some people here really think thats how it should be.

[ghoststories]

Yikes. If he truly feels this way about Arabs, then I hope he gets kicked out.

[ghoststories]

I believe that people can say whatever they like about race, nationality, Religion, weight, or hair, but I also believe that people should have the right to think that you're out of order for attacking those things without being tagged as “PC” or a “crazy Leftie” but that's just my feelings on it anyway.

I agree. Freedom of speech is a two-way street. Some people want freedom of speech, but they also want the opposing side to shut up. It's hypocritical.

[Jose Mourinho]

I agree. Freedom of speech is a two-way street. Some people want freedom of speech, but they also want the opposing side to shut up. It's hypocritical.THIS!

[Mystic Mock]

I agree. Freedom of speech is a two-way street. Some people want freedom of speech, but they also want the opposing side to shut up. It's hypocritical.

You're 100% spot on.

[jaxie]

As I said on the other thread, there is very little outrage about this, I guess we used it all up on Ken!
:joker:

[The Penguin]

I believe that people can say whatever they like about race, nationality, Religion, weight, or hair, but I also believe that people should have the right to think that you're out of order for attacking those things without being tagged as “PC” or a “crazy Leftie” but that's just my feelings on it anyway.

Freedom of speech shouldn't mean the right to say what you like without being criticised. Some people think their free speech is infringed if someone calls them a bigot. However it also works the other way. It's their right to call someone a "crazy leftie" as well.

[sassysocks]

Yikes. If he truly feels this way about Arabs, then I hope he gets kicked out.

Sounds like you would censor people's thoughts if you could. He is entitled to his opinion, whether you agree on not. Any Arab who has an issue with his comments is equally as entitled to say his/her piece on Alexander.

You cannot control people thoughts and feelings by such petty censorship.

I repeat would you say the same about someone who said they hated the French, Brits, Italians, Londoners, the list is endless - it is total PC nonense.

[Razor]

Wow