Michelle erm...

[Benjamin]

You do Rapauls Drag Race that reinforces the gay stereotype worse than perez :umm2:

[Samm]

She's amazing :clap1:

[smudgie]

Think she was just a tad over the top there.:laugh:

[Jay.]

I don't know what she was really talking about, when the source of that argument was mostly Cami and Chloe?

[Benjamin]

She's amazing :clap1:

Oh no I do love her, but that speech as awful. :laugh:

[Withano]

Are you calling all gays dragqueens or all dragqueens gays? Because..

[Smithy]

Drag is a bit of fun Ben, not all gay people do drag :umm2:, pigrez is a disgusting human representing a community and his actions reflect on them

[Pete.]

Michelle is amazing I really hope she wins now :clap1:

[Benjamin]

Drag is a bit of fun Ben, not all gay people do drag :umm2:, pigrez is a disgusting human representing a community and his actions reflect on them

Not all gays act like Perez. I'm not saying it's not fun ( I like the show) but that reinforces the stereotypical gay just ss much as Perez, Smithy, making Michelle's speech pointless and hypocritical.

[Benjamin]

Are you calling all gays dragqueens or all dragqueens gays? Because..

Oh give over

[Marsh.]

Drag is a bit of fun Ben, not all gay people do drag :umm2:, pigrez is a disgusting human representing a community and his actions reflect on them

Drag queens are a bit of fun and not representative of their community, but Perez is representative? :shrug:

If people know that not all gays are camp and do drag then surely they're intelligent enough to know they're not all like Perez either?

[Benjamin]

Drag queens are a bit of fun and not representative of their community, but Perez is representative? :shrug:

If people know that not all gays are camp and do drag then surely they're intelligent enough to know they're not all like Perez either?

Thank you. :clap1:

People using the gay card against Perez is really awful.

[BBfan46]

I actually found it more annoying that people should be expected to connect Perez' behaviour with his homosexuality.

He's an arse at times but Michelle is not impressing me lately.

[chuff me dizzy]

She's was spot on

[Llewyn]

Shes going so downhill, give it a few more days and she will be despised by the public.

[InOne]

I think she was talking from an American point of view. We're a lot more accepting over here.

[Benjamin]

She's was spot on

No she wasn't chuff, speaking as if she had the gay community's voice is one of my most hated things and she spoke as if she was representing me. She wasn't and isn't, neither is Perez.

[Crimson Dynamo]

John inman will be spinning in his grave

[Amy Jade]

Honestly I think she's just very protective over the gay community and is sad to see somebody like Perez representing the community, which he does - he's feeding into a stereotype and sadly it does garner less that kind comments and views.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Look at how fantastic Scott Mills was on Strictly

If i were gay i know who i would be looking up to

And it aint Perez

[Benjamin]

Honestly I think she's just very protective over the gay community and is sad to see somebody like Perez representing the community, which he does - he's feeding into a stereotype and sadly it does garner less that kind comments and views.

Amy, if people think he represents us and that we are all like that I am more disappointed in them tbh, not him who is being himself.

You know Rylan is just as camp (maybe without the mirror licking) but nobody cares that he reinforces the camp stereotype.

The whole point is all people are different, gay or straight, so I don't see why sexuality should play any part in a hate/dislike/love for anyone

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Oh no I do love her, but that speech as awful. :laugh:

You just didn't understand it I think.

She is such an advocate for the whole of the gay community not just people in drag that's just a show she works on.

She is huge in supporting gay rights and meeting people like Perez Hilton who is making gay men look like utter ***** is why she is getting so upset.

She wants gay men to be treated equally and not as freaks and perverts like in the 1950's and she is afraid the UK will generalise all gay people based on Perez's actions.

[chuff me dizzy]

No she wasn't chuff, speaking as if she had the gay community's voice is one of my most hated things and she spoke as if she was representing me. She wasn't and isn't, neither is Perez.

In MY opinion she was spot on

[Mokka]

Amy, if people think he represents us and that we are all like that I am more disappointed in them tbh, not him who is being himself.

You know Rylan is just as camp (maybe without the mirror licking) but nobody cares that he reinforces the camp stereotype.

The whole point is all people are different, gay or straight, so I don't see why sexuality should play any part in a hate/dislike/love for anyone

the thing is Ben, he isn't being himself, but he has created this persona of a gay man that he things the public expect... which is what is the offense

[Benjamin]

the thing is Ben, he isn't being himself, but he has created this persona of a gay man that he things the public expect... which is what is the offense

No, he's acting up, like he always done, this is nothing different for him. If he wants to be that the so be it. people who assume we will all be offended by it are what annoys me? Why should I be offended? because I'm gay? Do people say like Cami embarrass you as a straight person because they portray straight people?

[Amy Jade]

Ben with all due respect Perez is not being himself - he is acting like an obnoxious, attention seeking pervert and some idiots will think that is what gays are all about.

You know I love the gays and my best friend is gay and nothing like Perez and I look up to you on here but to some he represents and while I agree that's sad he's not doing himself any favours by acting just like idiots think gay guys act.

[Mokka]

We disagree :shrug:

It's not his being camp... it's his hyperventilating and fake over the top crying at the drop of a hat that is a bad stereotype. It's not his dancing camp in the garden, but his knowingly escalating his actions 10 fold to the point of hysteria.

he is portraying a bad stereotype and he is doing it purposely, and not just being real. The boys on drag race are for the most part real. Perez is not

[Benjamin]

Ben with all due respect Perez is not being himself - he is acting like an obnoxious, attention seeking pervert and some idiots will think that is what gays are all about.

You know I love the gays and my best friend is gay and nothing like Perez and I look up to you on here but to some he represents and while I agree that's sad he's not doing himself any favours by acting just like idiots think gay guys act.

My point is, those people who are idiots will think that regardless of him. But I'm comfortable enough with my sexuality to know that he does not represent all gays and yes, you will get guys like him who are gay, so, who cares. Who get all sorts of different straight people, nice nuts, awful and *****. Same for gays.

This should not be about his sexuality, people are just using that as another reason to hate him. If you hate him, you hate him, fine.

[lutrinae]

My point is, those people who are idiots will think that regardless of him.

I totally agree.

I think Michelle made her comments from a place of being afraid of more generalisations being made about gay people. This is wrong because nobody should have to act a certain way to "dispel" misconceptions made about the group of people to which they belong and identify with/their community. It is morally perverse to guilt-trip him into behaving well by using his sexuality as the trigger. Nobody has to cater to the racists/homophobes of the public.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

My point is, those people who are idiots will think that regardless of him. But I'm comfortable enough with my sexuality to know that he does not represent all gays and yes, you will get guys like him who are gay, so, who cares. Who get all sorts of different straight people, nice nuts, awful and *****. Same for gays.

This should not be about his sexuality, people are just using that as another reason to hate him. If you hate him, you hate him, fine.

Yes but this isn't about you its about a hell of a lot of people who still stereotype gays as these screeching, pervey queens and Michelle has worked hard with the LGBT community to dash those views out.

She was genuinely upset because she feels Perez is portraying us gay people in a bad light and I respect her for standing up for us.

[abhorson]

Yes but this isn't about you its about a hell of a lot of people who still stereotype gays as these screeching, pervey queens and Michelle has worked hard with the LGBT community to dash those views out.

She was genuinely upset because she feels Perez is portraying us gay people in a bad light and I respect her for standing up for us.

:clap1::clap1:

Which was why she was disgusted with Perez.

[Benjamin]

Yes but this isn't about you its about a hell of a lot of people who still stereotype gays as these screeching, pervey queens and Michelle has worked hard with the LGBT community to dash those views out.

She was genuinely upset because she feels Perez is portraying us gay people in a bad light and I respect her for standing up for us.

But you do get these types of people in the gay community, why should they feel ashamed for being like that? There is NOTHING WRONG with it. It's not who I am or all gay guys but my god why should he or anyone like that feel bad for being like that? That is just as oppressive as anything.

Gay people need to learn alot more acceptance within their own "community" before they preach about the rest of society.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But you do get these types of people in the gay community, why should they feel ashamed for being like that? There is NOTHING WRONG with it. It's not who I am or all gay guys but my god why should he or anyone like that feel bad for being like that? That is just as oppressive as anything.

Gay people need to learn alot more acceptance within their own community before they preach about the rest of society.

That's NOT who Perez is! That's the whole point! Perez is acting!

I honestly just don't think you see where Michelle is coming from.

[Marsh.]

My point is, those people who are idiots will think that regardless of him. But I'm comfortable enough with my sexuality to know that he does not represent all gays and yes, you will get guys like him who are gay, so, who cares. Who get all sorts of different straight people, nice nuts, awful and *****. Same for gays.

This should not be about his sexuality, people are just using that as another reason to hate him. If you hate him, you hate him, fine.

But you do get these types of people in the gay community, why should they feel ashamed for being like that? There is NOTHING WRONG with it. It's not who I am or all gay guys but my god why should he or anyone like that feel bad for being like that? That is just as oppressive as anything.

Gay people need to learn alot more acceptance within their own "community" before they preach about the rest of society.

:clap1:

That's NOT who Perez is! That's the whole point! Perez is acting!

I honestly just don't think you see where Michelle is coming from.

So? There are straight housemates who have played up and acted fake. Are they being misrepresentative of the straight "community"? No.

People need to stop looking at people as labels and "representatives" and look at them as individuals. It's not that hard.

[Benjamin]

That's NOT who Perez is! That's the whole point! Perez is acting!

I honestly just don't think you see where Michelle is coming from.

No Daniel, the thing is I do. I used to represent the LGBT and the whole point of it is being supportive not judgemental. Perez may be acting, but again that is what some guys do.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:clap1:



So? There are straight housemates who have played up and acted fake. Are they being misrepresentative of the straight "community"? No.

People need to stop looking at people as labels and "representatives" and look at them as individuals. It's not that hard.

This is true but its not black and white or as simple as that.

Luckily you are a person who doesn't discriminate but trust me as a victim of homophobia (once getting spat at, once getting kicked in the groin and "let go" from work after continuously being laughed at and called a fag) hate is still out there and it needs to be squashed.

Perez is adding fuel to the fire for people who hate gays for being pervy and attention seeking. If that was the real Perez then fair enough everyone has a right to be who they are BUT Perez is ACTING!

[elliebrew]

This is true but its not black and white or as simple as that.

Luckily you are a person who doesn't discriminate but trust me as a victim of homophobia (once getting spat at, once getting kicked in the groin and "let go" from work after continuously being laughed at and called a fag) hate is still out there and it needs to be squashed.

Perez is adding fuel to the fire for people who hate gays for being pervy and attention seeking.

Who are you backing for the win this year Dan

[Marsh.]

This is true but its not black and white or as simple as that.

Luckily you are a person who doesn't discriminate but trust me as a victim of homophobia (once getting spat at, once getting kicked in the groin and fired from work after continuously being laughed at and called a fag) hate is still out there and it needs to be squashed.

Perez is adding fuel to the fire for people who hate gays for being pervy and attention seeking.

But, you see, the problem lies with them and not Perez or anybody like him.

If someone is judgemental and unaccepting of others then trying to make the people they hate "a little more appealing" is counter productive.

That's like sending the message that in order to please bigots or be liked you must act a certain way.

[Benjamin]

This is true but its not black and white or as simple as that.

Luckily you are a person who doesn't discriminate but trust me as a victim of homophobia (once getting spat at, once getting kicked in the groin and "let go" from work after continuously being laughed at and called a fag) hate is still out there and it needs to be squashed.

Perez is adding fuel to the fire for people who hate gays for being pervy and attention seeking.

Hate will always be there. Being different is nothing to be ashamed of.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Who are you backing for the win this year Dan

Michelle but I think Calum may pullit out of the bag.

I think by your sig you agree? lol

[Marsh.]

I think Calum may pullit out of the bag.

D:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hate will always be there. Being different is nothing to be ashamed of.

Yes but f u c k I n g a window and pretending to cum 3 times IS something to be ashamed of.

[Benjamin]

Yes but f u c k I n g a window and pretending to cum 3 times IS something to be ashamed of.

But what has that got to do with his sexuality?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But what has that got to do with his sexuality?

You're talking specifically about Michelles speech! She said she was disgusted with his behaviour of pretending to orgasm whilst dry humping the windows.

Sorry didn't you make this thread?

[Mystic Mock]

She's amazing :clap1:

Have you ever disliked a female contestant? Especially one that fitted Michelle's prototype?

[Mystic Mock]

Ben with all due respect Perez is not being himself - he is acting like an obnoxious, attention seeking pervert and some idiots will think that is what gays are all about.

You know I love the gays and my best friend is gay and nothing like Perez and I look up to you on here but to some he represents and while I agree that's sad he's not doing himself any favours by acting just like idiots think gay guys act.

Ken was acting up some disgraceful behaviour in the house, did Michelle feel the need to tell the public that all 71 year old men aren't like that? No because she knows that Ken has a fanbase and she has spent time in the UK for awhile according to herself.

Michelle was desperate to get on a Liberal high horse, but because nobody was giving it her she had to use Perez in some desperate attempt to get it in, it really was pathetic.

But because she has a vagina some members on here will just call her amazing and not pay attention at all to her ridiculous and offensive comments towards gay people, and to the audience at home for insulting our intelligence that we can't tell that his just an individual, not representing all of the gay community.

[Brooklyn]

She was wrong to make an incredible fuss about it, but I'm not going to criticize her because it comes from a good place. It might be a bit outdated to think that there's a "certain way" for a group of people to behave rather that just people as a whole, but I can see where she's coming from.

[Mystic Mock]

But, you see, the problem lies with them and not Perez or anybody like him.

If someone is judgemental and unaccepting of others then trying to make the people they hate "a little more appealing" is counter productive.

That's like sending the message that in order to please bigots or be liked you must act a certain way.

It would be like saying to a black person, “to please one of the other two races you must change your skin colour.”

And then they get painted white or brown whenever they was around those people, or darkening a white persons skin to make them more appealing to the racists of other communities.

Or telling men not to check womens asses out otherwise The Police will be called on you.

Or women should stop complaining as you're making women come across like naggers.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes but f u c k I n g a window and pretending to cum 3 times IS something to be ashamed of.

Why are people so repressed when it comes to sex or sexual acts? As long as there is either a willing participant, legal age, and not another animal or a dead corpse I don't see the problem?

[Shaun]

OK first of all if you'd actually watch the show before judging it you'd realise that it's a community that's as diverse and fractured as any, and isn't all about one sort of lifestyle or way of life at all - in fact the show thrives off of the diversity and the differences of 'drag' (there's comedy drag, pageantry drag, alternative/horror drag, 'classic' drag...)

And yes, the shrill, attention-seeking, obnoxious ***** on the show are rightly pulled to pieces and told to **** off quite promptly :laugh: The people who do well on the show are incredibly talented, likeable people and RuPaul & Michelle are really admirable, caring mentors.

So yeah, whilst I think her fears that Perez is now going to be "how people perceive gays" are a bit naive and unnecessary since anyone with a brain is going to realise that twats are twats, not gays are twats, I think she's just exhausted over having to live with such an attention-seeking, toxic ****.

(Don't get me wrong - I'm enjoying him massively as a housemate - but he is still a terrible human being and has been responsible for saying so many awful, heinous things, literally stalking celebrities, writing hideous stuff like 'Britney should've died, not Heath Ledger'... and we would ALL hate to live with him).

[Shaun]

Why are people so repressed when it comes to sex or sexual acts? As long as there is either a willing participant, legal age, and not another animal or a dead corpse I don't see the problem?

I want written consent from that poor window, Mock :fist:

[the truth]

You just didn't understand it I think.

She is such an advocate for the whole of the gay community not just people in drag that's just a show she works on.

She is huge in supporting gay rights and meeting people like Perez Hilton who is making gay men look like utter ***** is why she is getting so upset.

She wants gay men to be treated equally and not as freaks and perverts like in the 1950's and she is afraid the UK will generalise all gay people based on Perez's actions.

oh yeah all 62 million brits will judge all gay people based on perezrunning around the garden? do me a favour, michelles speech was the most embarrassing piece of crap in BB history....gay people have every right to behave any way they like,just like all people, within the law. perez was amazing and totally got what he wanted, to expose the shallow petty jealous envious rage of those bitter twats....brilliant.

[the truth]

My point is, those people who are idiots will think that regardless of him. But I'm comfortable enough with my sexuality to know that he does not represent all gays and yes, you will get guys like him who are gay, so, who cares. Who get all sorts of different straight people, nice nuts, awful and *****. Same for gays.

This should not be about his sexuality, people are just using that as another reason to hate him. If you hate him, you hate him, fine.

agreed

[Mystic Mock]

I want written consent from that poor window, Mock :fist:

:laugh2:

I'm sure it will be handed in, in the afternoon.

[the truth]

Yes but this isn't about you its about a hell of a lot of people who still stereotype gays as these screeching, pervey queens and Michelle has worked hard with the LGBT community to dash those views out.

She was genuinely upset because she feels Perez is portraying us gay people in a bad light and I respect her for standing up for us.its not about you either....are you saying ben isn't allowed an opinion? perez isn't portraying anyone but himself

[daniel-lewis-1985]

oh yeah all 62 million brits will judge all gay people based on perezrunning around the garden? do me a favour, michelles speech was the most embarrassing piece of crap in BB history....gay people have every right to behave any way they like,just like all people, within the law. perez was amazing and totally got what he wanted, to expose the shallow petty jealous envious rage of those bitter twats....brilliant.

Ok then.

I cant really take your opinion seriously though as I know it is based on the fact she has a vagina which makes her rant so offensive to you.

[Mystic Mock]

its not about you either....are you saying ben isn't allowed an opinion? perez isn't portraying anyone but himself

Exactly, Michelle fans are clutching at straws here.

[the truth]

That's NOT who Perez is! That's the whole point! Perez is acting!

I honestly just don't think you see where Michelle is coming from.

whether hes acting or not so what. that twat michelle is demanding that no gay person is allowed to behave a certain way, totally repressive nonsense. besides perez got what he wanted , to expose the twats in the bedroom

[daniel-lewis-1985]

whether hes acting or not so what. that twat michelle is demanding that no gay person is allowed to behave a certain way, totally repressive nonsense. besides perez got what he wanted , to expose the twats in the bedroom

By twats you mean the women.

If it was a woman prancing around ****ing the window which caused all the men to fight im sure you would have a totally different opinion lol.

[the truth]

This is true but its not black and white or as simple as that.

Luckily you are a person who doesn't discriminate but trust me as a victim of homophobia (once getting spat at, once getting kicked in the groin and "let go" from work after continuously being laughed at and called a fag) hate is still out there and it needs to be squashed.

Perez is adding fuel to the fire for people who hate gays for being pervy and attention seeking. If that was the real Perez then fair enough everyone has a right to be who they are BUT Perez is ACTING!

ive been discriminated against too, as have most people one way or another, but I don't go around demanding people behave a certain way to represent my community. that's utterly repressive

[Mystic Mock]

Ok then.

I cant really take your opinion seriously though as I know it is based on the fact she has a vagina which makes her rant so offensive to you.

I actually think that The Truth put his point across quite well there for a change.

It also helps that his really living upto his name in that post.

[the truth]

By twats you mean the women.

by twats I mean twats

[daniel-lewis-1985]

ive been discriminated against too, as have most people one way or another, but I don't go around demanding people behave a certain way to represent my community. that's utterly repressive

OH ffs are you actually going through this whole thread and picking out my posts?

One quote is enough mate its to early in the morning for this.

If it was a woman prancing around ****ing the window which caused all the men to fight im sure you would have a totally different opinion lol.
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[the truth]

By twats you mean the women.

If it was a woman prancing around ****ing the window which caused all the men to fight im sure you would have a totally different opinion lol.

isnt that what Bianca did last year to Winston, only she was totally naked and demanding they fck on the floor and suck his cock within an hour of meeting him

[the truth]

OH ffs are you actually going through this whole thread and picking out my posts?

One quote is enough mate its to early in the morning for this.

If it was a woman prancing around ****ing the window which caused all the men to fight im sure you would have a totally different opinion lol.
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stop pretending to be offended

[daniel-lewis-1985]

isnt that what Bianca did last year to Winston, only she was totally naked and demanding they fck on the floor and suck his cock within an hour of meeting him

And?.....

Whats your point?

[Mystic Mock]

Biannca was great.

[the truth]

I actually think that The Truth put his point across quite well there for a change.

It also helps that his really living upto his name in that post.

I always speak the truth except its hard to see the truth is a sea of PC bull****

[the truth]

And?.....

Whats your point?

did you go berserk claiming she was misrepresenting all women across the world? was there a speech about it by some sanctimonious twat like michelle? why not? especially as her garden behaviour was infinitely worse than perez

[daniel-lewis-1985]

did you go berserk claiming she was misrepresenting all women across the world? was there a speech about it by some sanctimonious twat like michelle? why not? especially as her garden behaviour was infinitely worse than perez

I remember you condemning her behaviour actually.

[the truth]

Biannca was great.

what was great about her

[the truth]

I remember you condemning her behaviour actually.

you remember all your hero the truth does

[kirklancaster]

Drag queens are a bit of fun and not representative of their community, but Perez is representative? :shrug:

If people know that not all gays are camp and do drag then surely they're intelligent enough to know they're not all like Perez either?

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

you remember all your hero the truth does

Look I can check mate you in any discussion because it all comes back to you judging women.

You think it was fine for Perez to **** a window and say he was cumming 3 times yet you condemn Bianca for the same behaviour.

Any argument you try to disguise as sincere THE TRUTH will allways come out.

[the truth]

Look I can check mate you in any discussion because it all comes back to you judging women.

You think it was fine for Perez to **** a window and say he was cumming 3 times yet you condemn Bianca for the same behaviour.

Any argument you try to disguise as sincere THE TRUTH will allways come out.

playing dumb again? you did notice Bianca was totally naked and demanding sex within an hour of meeting a total stranger...bit different to perez simply running around the garden. now stop oppressing this gay man, hes great

[the truth]

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

exactly:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

what was great about her

She was wild, fun, trashy, but also could be bitchy, and had the potential to be argumentative.

She did more in 3 days than Kavana and Keith have done in this series combined.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

playing dumb again? you did notice Bianca was totally naked and demanding sex within an hour of meeting a total stranger...bit different to perez simply running around the garden. now stop oppressing this gay man, hes great

I'm oppressing Perez? lol

What Michelle said came from a good place and as a gay man I'm glad to have someone like her in my corner.

I cant say a bad word against her as that speech was not for attention or dramatics like Perez's acting she was sincere and however over the top you may have found it she just cares about a good cause.

I never had you down as a gay activist but good for you.

[the truth]

She was wild, fun, trashy, but also could be bitchy, and had the potential to be argumentative.

She did more in 3 days than Kavana and Keith have done in this series combined.

fair enough that's your opinion and I thank you for giving your reasons....she wasn't a mean spirited person I granted, she was shallow tacky boring rude crude obvious and frankly ran out of steam after a few hours of filth. I disagree about kav and keith....theres more to fun that getting a minge out and demanding a fck....cheggers has been a good laugh...though kav I do agree has been, well boring so far

[Mystic Mock]

I'm oppressing Perez? lol

What Michelle said came from a good place and as a gay man I'm glad to have someone like her in my corner.

I cant say a bad word against her as that speech was not for attention or dramatics like Perez's acting she was sincere and however over the top you may have found it she just cares about a good cause.

I never had you down as a gay activist but good for you.

No Michelle was acting, she weirdly however never disgraced Ken over the negro comments though which was quite interesting for her that she only seems to be in favour of one minority group then is what you're saying as shouldn't both minority groups in this country and in the US be getting the same care from good old Michelle?

[the truth]

I'm oppressing Perez? lol

What Michelle said came from a good place and as a gay man I'm glad to have someone like her in my corner.

I cant say a bad word against her as that speech was not for attention or dramatics like Perez's acting she was sincere and however over the top you may have found it she just cares about a good cause.

I never had you down as a gay activist but good for you.

always have been, im an advocate for free speech live and let live, sadly the pain you've suffered has clouded you from the truth....the gay community shouldn't be dictated to like some trade union being bossed by bob crow. any gay man can behave any damn way he likes without michelle telling him how to behave.....she made a total twat of herself and I question the motive behind her twatishness.....even if its meant to be for perceived good reasons, shes making matters worse with that narrow minded oppressive viewpoint

[daniel-lewis-1985]

always have been, im an advocate for free speech live and let live, sadly the pain you've suffered has clouded you from the truth....the gay community shouldn't be dictated to like some trade union being bossed by bob crow. any gay man can behave any damn way he likes without michelle telling him how to behave.....she made a total twat of herself and I question the motive behind her twatishness.....even if its meant to be for perceived good reasons, shes making matters worse with that narrow minded oppressive viewpoint

No you haven't at all you have insulted me countless times and accused me of being a "hetrophobe" lol I could go and dig out so many homophobic comments from you which would shut this argument down but I really cant be arsed.

We both know you're just using Perez as a pawn to back up your dislike and judgment of a woman and your constant rants on sexism against men.

Its classic THE TRUTH behaviour and I'm not fooled by it for a second.

It's the same old routine rehashed in every thread.

[Mystic Mock]

fair enough that's your opinion and I thank you for giving your reasons....she wasn't a mean spirited person I granted, she was shallow tacky boring rude crude obvious and frankly ran out of steam after a few hours of filth. I disagree about kav and keith....theres more to fun that getting a minge out and demanding a fck....cheggers has been a good laugh...though kav I do agree has been, well boring so far

Fair enough, we're all gonna like different people I suppose.

One thing that I want to know though The Truth and that is have you ever liked a female contestant on BB? And if so what was it about them that you liked about them compared to most who you appear to have a lot of issues with on the show?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Fair enough, we're all gonna like different people I suppose.

One thing that I want to know though The Truth and that is have you ever liked a female contestant on BB? And if so what was it about them that you liked about them compared to most who you appear to have a lot of issues with on the show?

Yay the pennies dropped lol.

[Mystic Mock]

Yay the pennies dropped lol.

I know that he has issues with women, it's just his prejudice as it appears to be coincided with my dislike for Michelle.

[the truth]

No you haven't at all you have insulted me countless times and accused me of being a "hetrophobe" lol I could go and dig out so many homophobic comments from you which would shut this argument down but I really cant be arsed.

We both know you're just using Perez as a pawn to back up your dislike and judgment of a woman and your constant rants on sexism against men.

Its classic THE TRUTH behaviour and I'm not fooled by it for a second.

It's the same old routine rehashed in every thread.

the only one rehashing is YOU with your homophobic card nonsense. you use that every time I or others disagree with you, its hilarious.....ly sad

[daniel-lewis-1985]

the only one rehashing is YOU with your homophobic card nonsense. you use that every time I or others disagree with you, its hilarious.....ly sad

I really don't lol its just you and another member who are both homophobic and sexist.

Im just speaking THE TRUTH

[Mystic Mock]

#thetruthanddaniellewisargument.

[Mystic Mock]

I really don't lol its just you and another member who are both homophobic and sexist.

Im just speaking THE TRUTH

Who else is homophobic and sexist? Are they a UKIP supporter?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Who else is homophobic and sexist? Are they a UKIP supporter?

I don't out other forum members its against the rules unfortunately but they do it to themselves eventually when their arguments finally crumble and the true reason behind it comes out.

They allways slip up.

[the truth]

Fair enough, we're all gonna like different people I suppose.

One thing that I want to know though The Truth and that is have you ever liked a female contestant on BB? And if so what was it about them that you liked about them compared to most who you appear to have a lot of issues with on the show?

loads of them and gay people too...brian is probably my favour hm ever....Helen was brilliant in that series....Helen last year was a right bitch but she was honest and I liked that about her, Rachel rice, sophie dogface, faye palmer , louise cliffe was lovely, shilpa was class, nush from years ago, Katie Hopkins can be ok though she overdoes the meanness, Jackie stallone awesome, briggitte nielson I liked, kate who won back in the day was terrific, even jade I didnt mind too much , these are mostly individual types of people who weren't dictated to by their groups they just were themselves and stood their own ground and were original.....sadly to simply label me a woman hater is all too simplistic bigoted nonsense.

[the truth]

I really don't lol its just you and another member who are both homophobic and sexist.

Im just speaking THE TRUTH

youre an inverted bigot falsely accusing others all the time as a cheap way to try and win an argument its pathetic. all done to try and get a rise out of truthful posters just so youy can run and moan to the mods. the irony is its you who is oppressing gay people by banning them from running around the garden

[daniel-lewis-1985]

youre an inverted bigot falsely accusing others all the time as a cheap way to try and win an argument its pathetic. all done to try and get a rise out of truthful posters just so youy can run and moan to the mods. the irony is its you who is oppressing gay people by banning them from running around the garden

More words of wisdom from THE TRUTH.

You really are on the ball.

**Goes to dig out homophobic comments**

[Mystic Mock]

loads of them and gay people too...brian is probably my favour hm ever....Helen was brilliant in that series....Helen last year was a right bitch but she was honest and I liked that about her, Rachel rice, sophie dogface, faye palmer , louise cliffe was lovely, shilpa was class, nush from years ago, Katie Hopkins can be ok though she overdoes the meanness, Jackie stallone awesome, briggitte nielson I liked, kate who won back in the day was terrific, even jade I didnt mind too much , these are mostly individual types of people who weren't dictated to by their groups they just were themselves and stood their own ground and were original.....sadly to simply label me a woman hater is all too simplistic bigoted nonsense.

Fair enough, I was interested because you're probably the hardest to win over on here when it comes to liking female contestants, it makes you the most interesting member on here for that field imo.

[the truth]

More words of wisdom from THE TRUTH.

You really are on the ball.

**Goes to dig out homophobic comments**

they exist, the first rule about fight club is..youre fighting yourself

[daniel-lewis-1985]

they exist, the first rule about fight club is..youre fighting yourself

I know they exist.

Anyway **** this I have a job to get to enjoy your hangover.

[the truth]

Fair enough, I was interested because you're probably the hardest to win over on here when it comes to liking female contestants, it makes you the most interesting member on here for that field imo.

im never in a group, im also roving around a lone wolf on the outside looking in, im always the guy pissing into the tent not pissing out, Im not a member of any party or organization or Church. Im a bird with no feet, I don't land anywhere I fly till I die...auchante

[Mystic Mock]

I don't out other forum members its against the rules unfortunately but they do it to themselves eventually when their arguments finally crumble and the true reason behind it comes out.

They allways slip up.

Lol, I think I know who you're on about and I agree on them.

[the truth]

I know they exist.

Anyway **** this I have a job to get to enjoy your hangover.

only in your mind. good luck with that pal, seriously