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Samm
16-01-2015, 09:03 PM
He seriously is it makes me feel uncomfortable, and he's adding to the typical stereotype

Michelle said it all really

Pincho Paxton
16-01-2015, 09:04 PM
He's the quiet one!

Amy Jade
16-01-2015, 09:04 PM
:clap1:

Vanessa
16-01-2015, 09:05 PM
I love him. He's mental! :joker:

ebandit
16-01-2015, 09:05 PM
he's an embarrassment to our galaxy......................

Mark L

LukeB
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
i felt really uncomfortable watching that scene :umm2: it was cringe

ruiphillips
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
One person does not represent an entire community. Don't be foolish.

Mokka
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
very cringe... I hope his backers will see it

Daniel.
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
I'm gay and I don't care. He's amazing :joker:

GiRTh
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
Its true, Michele was right but it was bloody hilarious at the time.

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
Then really you need to get into the gay community more tbh. I'm gay and I'm comfortable enough in myself to know that is not representing me or all gays

Macie Lightfoot
16-01-2015, 09:06 PM
Perez needs to ****ing die. Michelle acting like the LGBT community is her community is definitely a dangerous position to take and it's definitely not up to her to decide what's embarrassing to the LGBT community, but I don't even care because her heart's in the right place and Perez has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Samm
16-01-2015, 09:07 PM
One person does not represent an entire community. Don't be foolish.

I know, but that's not what most people would think

Gusto Brunt
16-01-2015, 09:07 PM
Why embarrassed specifically to the gay community?

Gstar
16-01-2015, 09:12 PM
Louis spence is 10 TIMES WORSE imo

Smithy
16-01-2015, 09:12 PM
Perez is an embarrassment to the human race

smudgie
16-01-2015, 09:16 PM
Nah. He no more represents gays than Kinga represented women.





He gets on my nerves but I admit to having to cross my legs I was laughing so much at his antics and how hw was winding the house up.:laugh:

Ninastar
16-01-2015, 09:16 PM
He seriously is it makes me feel uncomfortable, and he's adding to the typical stereotype

Michelle said it all really

Totally agree. There's so much going for the gay community that proves gay guys arent those annoying queeny stereotypes, but someone so extreme and OTT flamboyant just makes it so much worse. I'm a lesbian, yet it makes me want to call him really nasty names. I can't even imagine how it would make a homophobic person feel.

chuff me dizzy
16-01-2015, 09:33 PM
Agree with Michelle 100% and ANYONE who finds his behaviour tonight funny or acceptable is as sick as him

Drew.
16-01-2015, 09:35 PM
Louis spence is 10 TIMES WORSE imo

Very true

Gstar
16-01-2015, 09:38 PM
Agree with Michelle 100% and ANYONE who finds his behaviour tonight funny or acceptable is as sick as him

no i'm not as sick as him

jennyjuniper
16-01-2015, 09:39 PM
Perez needs locking up by men in white coats.

mizzy25
16-01-2015, 09:40 PM
It wasn't @ all funny, it was disturbing tbh

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 09:42 PM
You know is what is more embarrassing is the fact that people think he represents the gay community.

abhorson
16-01-2015, 09:42 PM
One person does not represent an entire community. Don't be foolish.

Michelle knows more would you not accept?

Crimson Dynamo
16-01-2015, 09:43 PM
Well the King of the gays should excommunicate him.

Who is the current King?

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 09:43 PM
Michelle knows more would you not accept?

Why, does she. She is still one person.

Cherie
16-01-2015, 09:44 PM
One person does not represent an entire community. Don't be foolish.

.

abhorson
16-01-2015, 09:46 PM
Why, does she. She is still one person.


Because that community have her as an idol and respect her thoughts obviously.

Pincho Paxton
16-01-2015, 09:47 PM
What he's gay!!!! D:

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 09:49 PM
Because that community have her as an idol and respect her thoughts obviously.

Yes thanks for generalising us all there. :idc:

abhorson
16-01-2015, 09:50 PM
Well the King of the gays should excommunicate him.

Who is the current King?

Stephen Fry.

abhorson
16-01-2015, 09:51 PM
Yes thanks for generalising us all there. :idc:

Do you not like her?

Pincho Paxton
16-01-2015, 09:54 PM
Well the King of the gays should excommunicate him.

Who is the current King?

Mr Kipling.

lily.
16-01-2015, 10:02 PM
He seriously is it makes me feel uncomfortable, and he's adding to the typical stereotype

Michelle said it all really

Now you know how I feel as a Scottish person. Every Scottish HM who has ever gone on BB has been a C.U.Next Tuesday. lol

JoshBB
16-01-2015, 10:06 PM
He's adding to the overly sexual stereotype which I find incredibly offensive and quite upsetting, even more so since this is the stereotype I can sometimes be misassociated with.

Ninastar
16-01-2015, 10:07 PM
Now you know how I feel as a Scottish person. Every Scottish HM who has ever gone on BB has been a C.U.Next Tuesday. lol

how do you think i feel as a scottish/american lesbian

i'm basically a Perez/Lisa/Mikey love child

InOne
16-01-2015, 10:10 PM
Camp doesn't equate gay so he's only an embarrassment to himself.

Pincho Paxton
16-01-2015, 10:12 PM
how do you think i feel as a scottish/american lesbian

i'm basically a Perez/Lisa/Mikey love child

Sounds hot!

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:13 PM
Do you not like her?

I like her, I don't hang off her every word. Does that prove some kind of point?

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:13 PM
Camp doesn't equate gay so he's only an embarrassment to himself.

:clap1:

Chuckyegg
16-01-2015, 10:16 PM
I behaved badly last weekend and I have brown hair. Does this mean I'm an embarrassment to the brown hair community?

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:17 PM
I behaved badly last weekend and I have brown hair. Does this mean I'm an embarrassment to the brown hair community?

Yes, on this forum I'm afraid so. Get out now.

Pincho Paxton
16-01-2015, 10:18 PM
I behaved badly last weekend and I have brown hair. Does this mean I'm an embarrassment to the brown hair community?

You're an embarrassment to the brown owl community!:fist:

T*
16-01-2015, 10:18 PM
Totally agree. There's so much going for the gay community that proves gay guys arent those annoying queeny stereotypes, but someone so extreme and OTT flamboyant just makes it so much worse. I'm a lesbian, yet it makes me want to call him really nasty names. I can't even imagine how it would make a homophobic person feel.

:clap1:

Xtopher
16-01-2015, 10:20 PM
Burn it

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7gWdDLCMAEuYKs.jpg

Daniel.
16-01-2015, 10:22 PM
I'm gay, I know most aren't like him, he is known for being camp, he's a brilliant housemate and hilarious imo

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
16-01-2015, 10:22 PM
i find him hilarious and i really hope he is in the final

Mark L

Vanessa
16-01-2015, 10:23 PM
He needs a pass to the final. Housemates would hate it! :hehe:

Daniel.
16-01-2015, 10:23 PM
i find him hilarious and i really hope he is in the final

Mark L

:joker:

abhorson
16-01-2015, 10:26 PM
I like her, I don't hang off her every word. Does that prove some kind of point?

No. But i respect her opinion quite a bit.

Withano
16-01-2015, 10:26 PM
Guys a dickhead

abhorson
16-01-2015, 10:27 PM
Guys a dickhead

Can;t argue with that!

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:28 PM
Guys a dickhead

I give you this, he is, but I find him funny, I just don't get why his sexuality was brought up. :laugh:

T*
16-01-2015, 10:32 PM
i find him hilarious and i really hope he is in the final

Mark L
:joker:

Ninastar
16-01-2015, 10:35 PM
I give you this, he is, but I find him funny, I just don't get why his sexuality was brought up. :laugh:

because the way he acts is an ott queeny whiney mess. how many 'straight' men act that way? he's just an annoying super flamboyant gay guy, which is what most gay guys are portrayed to be like irl, when they arent. What Michelle was saying was that she hates the fact that she's tried to prove that gay people are just like everyone else, and then Perez has to go and be some annoying, little **** and influence some people into thinking that gay men are like that.

By some, I mean people who aren't used to having sane gay people in their lives. If someone doesn't have a gay person in their lives and maybe hasn't even met a gay person, then of course they will think that they are like what they see on TV. It's sad, but it's true.

Chuckyegg
16-01-2015, 10:35 PM
I've never noticed a gay community. There isn't one. Nobody represents me.

JoshBB
16-01-2015, 10:37 PM
i find him hilarious and i really hope he is in the final

Mark L

He's funny to you because he isn't insinuating a dangerous and offensive stereotype

lutrinae
16-01-2015, 10:37 PM
I give you this, he is, but I find him funny, I just don't get why his sexuality was brought up. :laugh:

Just Michelle going for the low-blow out of frustration. Nobody can get Perez to change his social conduct in the house so Michelle is trying to make him feel guilty by using her position as a drag-queen judge as if that somehow makes her protector of the gays. Remember her talking about how the contestants on that show were her children and she had to help them grow? I guess she thinks her show is somehow representative of all gay culture and therefore gay people are weak and need her help. Not impressed at all.

Razor
16-01-2015, 10:41 PM
I can't see the correlation

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:41 PM
because the way he acts is an ott queeny whiney mess. how many 'straight' men act that way? he's just an annoying super flamboyant gay guy, which is what most gay guys are portrayed to be like irl, when they arent. What Michelle was saying was that she hates the fact that she's tried to prove that gay people are just like everyone else, and then Perez has to go and be some annoying, little **** and influence some people into thinking that gay men are like that.

By some, I mean people who aren't used to having sane gay people in their lives. If someone doesn't have a gay person in their lives and maybe hasn't even met a gay person, then of course they will think that they are like what they see on TV. It's sad, but it's true.

Caitlin you know I'm not a massive fan of people like this usually as I find it overbearing, but I'm not going to go out of my way to actually hate people like this despite what I joke about. The fact is there are people like this in the "community", so? It's who they are. Why should they feel bad for it, and why should we make them? That is oppressive and is not what LGBT is actually about, it's about everyone who falls into that group, regardless of their personality.

Ichi_Bear
16-01-2015, 10:41 PM
She needs to chill. Perez is a joker! Hope he stays. 😒

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
16-01-2015, 10:43 PM
He's funny to you because he isn't insinuating a dangerous and offensive stereotype

what

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:45 PM
He's funny to you because he isn't insinuating a dangerous and offensive stereotype

Oh dear God, really? :laugh:

Ninastar
16-01-2015, 10:46 PM
Caitlin you know I'm not a massive fan of people like this usually as I find it overbearing, but I'm not going to go out of my way to hate people like this despite what I joke about. The fact is there are people like this in the "community", so? It's who they are. Why should they feel bad for it, and why should we make them? That is oppressive and is not what LGBT is actually about, it's about everyone who falls into that group, regardless of their personality.

I don't care about people who actually are like this, because they are real. Perez isn't. All he wants is camera time and he doesn't care who he upsets. I'm not in any way suggesting that anyone should feel bad for being themselves, like I said, I don't really care, be the person you are. But what I hate is a fake attention ***** making some people look bad and it's not fair.

Novo
16-01-2015, 10:49 PM
He is the pride and joy of the gay community and someone Putin would gladly accept in the Motherland for a trial run at the very least, Michelle was wrong this is the start of worldwide acceptance, The Turtle will agree with me here

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:49 PM
I don't care about people who actually are like this, because they are real. Perez isn't. All he wants is camera time and he doesn't care who he upsets. I'm not in any way suggesting that anyone should feel bad for being themselves, like I said, I don't really care, be the person you are. But what I hate is a fake attention ***** making some people look bad and it's not fair.

But my point is you do get people like this in the "community". We both know this. They act up as that is their personality trait.

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:49 PM
He is the pride and joy of the gay community and someone Putin would gladly accept in the Motherland for a trial run at the very least, Michelle was wrong this is the start of worldwide acceptance, The Turtle will agree with me here

Great timing :joker:

bots
16-01-2015, 10:49 PM
20 or 30 years ago I may have agreed that Perez would have been seen as representative. Not now, the world has moved on, people will judge Perez as an individual and nothing more.

Drew.
16-01-2015, 10:49 PM
He is the pride and joy of the gay community and someone Putin would gladly accept in the Motherland for a trial run at the very least, Michelle was wrong this is the start of worldwide acceptance, The Turtle will agree with me here

Spot on Andrew

Kizzy
16-01-2015, 10:52 PM
I'm not seeing what his sexuality has to do with the fact he's acting like a total fruitloop.

Ninastar
16-01-2015, 10:53 PM
But my point is you do get people like this in the "community". We both know this. They act up as that is their personality trait.

But these people aren't celebrities who can have an influence on people's thoughts

MargeryFan
16-01-2015, 10:54 PM
I'm straight and it never occurred to me that Perez was representing anyone but himself.

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:55 PM
I'm not seeing what his sexuality has to do with the fact he's acting like a total fruitloop.

Thank you :worship:

Marsh.
16-01-2015, 10:55 PM
I'm not seeing what his sexuality has to do with the fact he's acting like a total fruitloop.

:clap1:

Marsh.
16-01-2015, 10:56 PM
But these people aren't celebrities who can have an influence on people's thoughts

Then surely the issue is with the people who see individuals as representative of a whole group of society rather than a separate person of their own, regardless of whether they're putting on an act or not. Straight people can act up too. :laugh:

Daniel.
16-01-2015, 10:56 PM
I don't get why you all care he is amazing tv that's all that I care ab

Benjamin
16-01-2015, 10:56 PM
But these people aren't celebrities who can have an influence on people's thoughts

Same could be applied to most straight celebs. And just to clarify, people like Rylan and most media portrayals of gays are fine and not stereotypical?

bots
16-01-2015, 11:00 PM
I don't get why you all care he is amazing tv that's all that I care ab

As a person, many people view him as a complete dick, so its just not amazing tv, its cringe tv

Ninastar
16-01-2015, 11:10 PM
We aren't going to agree on this so I'm just going to leave it and play on GTA

Good night!

Mystic Mock
17-01-2015, 12:27 AM
He seriously is it makes me feel uncomfortable, and he's adding to the typical stereotype

Michelle said it all really

Can you please have your own opinion please and not just copy what your idol says please?

Samm
17-01-2015, 12:31 AM
Can you please have your own opinion please and not just copy what your idol says please?

It is my own opinion actually

Mystic Mock
17-01-2015, 12:33 AM
It is my own opinion actually

You copied Michelle word for word.

wendywillow
17-01-2015, 12:37 AM
he doesn't represent any community. everyone is there own individual

Northern Monkey
17-01-2015, 12:46 AM
He is an embarrassment to the human community.I would be mortified if any aliens were tuning in tonight and tarred us all with the same brush.

wendywillow
17-01-2015, 12:55 AM
id hope the aliens would have better things to do

Northern Monkey
17-01-2015, 12:58 AM
id hope the aliens would have better things to do

Nah i bet they were all sat there with App on voting.

Jose Mourinho
17-01-2015, 01:18 AM
He seriously is it makes me feel uncomfortable, and he's adding to the typical stereotype

Michelle said it all reallyNever judge a WHOLE community based on one person's actions/words. Every human being is different.

Mystic Mock
17-01-2015, 03:14 AM
I behaved badly last weekend and I have brown hair. Does this mean I'm an embarrassment to the brown hair community?

We're the same person then?

Tbh Michelle was coming off quite homophobic in that discussion in the Diary Room tbh, and the best part was that Calum was watching her crash & burn with every comment that she made.

lily.
17-01-2015, 05:24 PM
how do you think i feel as a scottish/american lesbian

i'm basically a Perez/Lisa/Mikey love child

Yeah, I can't compete with that, Caitlin..

http://media.giphy.com/media/ds8khI25lsR3y/giphy.gif


I behaved badly last weekend and I have brown hair. Does this mean I'm an embarrassment to the brown hair community?


FFS.... you might have warned me last Monday. No wonder everyone was acting funny with me at work.

letmein
17-01-2015, 06:18 PM
I don't get why you all care he is amazing tv that's all that I care ab

He's not.

DemolitionRed
17-01-2015, 06:22 PM
Just Michelle going for the low-blow out of frustration. Nobody can get Perez to change his social conduct in the house so Michelle is trying to make him feel guilty by using her position as a drag-queen judge as if that somehow makes her protector of the gays. Remember her talking about how the contestants on that show were her children and she had to help them grow? I guess she thinks her show is somehow representative of all gay culture and therefore gay people are weak and need her help. Not impressed at all.

Oh nice post. I was chatting to a gay friend today about her outburst and he said, "How dare she think its okay to speak on my behalf as though I need her protection...F-ck her. He's not acting like a deranged queer, he's acting like a deranged person and his sexuality has nothing to do with this".

Chuckyegg
17-01-2015, 06:51 PM
there isn't really a gay community
just like there isn't really a ginger community
or a disabled community
perez does not represent me, he represents nobody

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
17-01-2015, 06:57 PM
there isn't really a gay community
just like there isn't really a ginger community
or a disabled community

:clap1:

abhorson
17-01-2015, 06:59 PM
there isn't really a gay community
just like there isn't really a ginger community
or a disabled community
perez does not represent me, he represents nobody

Semantics. I have heard it countless times from gay people.

JoshBB
17-01-2015, 07:04 PM
Then surely the issue is with the people who see individuals as representative of a whole group of society rather than a separate person of their own, regardless of whether they're putting on an act or not. Straight people can act up too. :laugh:

he doesn't represent any community. everyone is there own individual

Never judge a WHOLE community based on one person's actions/words. Every human being is different.

there isn't really a gay community
just like there isn't really a ginger community
or a disabled community
perez does not represent me, he represents nobody

While I agree with the above comments that one person does not represent a whole group of people. However, the most ignorant of bigots will see Perez's behaviour and claim that all gay people are like that and unfortunately people who have never met an openly gay person in real life will believe this and spread homophobia.

What he is doing is dangerous, and he needs to realise that he could damage a community.

abhorson
17-01-2015, 07:15 PM
While I agree with the above comments that one person does not represent a whole group of people. However, the most ignorant of bigots will see Perez's behaviour and claim that all gay people are like that and unfortunately people who have never met an openly gay person in real life will believe this and spread homophobia.

What he is doing is dangerous, and he needs to realise that he could damage a community.


:clap1::clap1:

I have gay friends. Just friends to me who are gay. Some use community some don't. Does it matter? To you it does not, but others it does. Human nature i guess.

Chuckyegg
17-01-2015, 08:19 PM
Semantics. I have heard it countless times from gay people.

..and now you know why

Lstan
17-01-2015, 08:27 PM
What she said was an over reaction-no one is stupid enough to think perez represents a whole diverse range of people, hes been hated for many years, i dont think there is any group of people perez fits into, hes like a universe unto himself hes so...bazaar lol

Mystic Mock
18-01-2015, 01:26 AM
While I agree with the above comments that one person does not represent a whole group of people. However, the most ignorant of bigots will see Perez's behaviour and claim that all gay people are like that and unfortunately people who have never met an openly gay person in real life will believe this and spread homophobia.

What he is doing is dangerous, and he needs to realise that he could damage a community.

But Kavana's gay yet he hasn't done anything in the house to make any of the public think that “all gay people are this way” Michelle jumped on the wrong thing, it was a bad game move.

chuff me dizzy
18-01-2015, 08:49 AM
Hes an embarrassment to the human race

Smithy
18-01-2015, 09:16 AM
Perez is an embarrassment to the human race

Hes an embarrassment to the human race

Wow thats original :idc:

lostalex
18-01-2015, 09:24 AM
He's not getting any sex. I think we can revoke his membership card. He seems asexual to me.

i remember hearing him interviewed on Howard Stern a few years ago. He wasn't getting any sex back then either. I can't imagine any person of sound mind or adequate IQ ever showing him any kind of affection. I would rather **** a raw salmon fillet before i let my dick anywhere near that repulsive Cuban freak.

lostalex
18-01-2015, 09:32 AM
I don't get why you all care he is amazing tv that's all that I care ab

No, he's not.

He provokes good TV from the actually interesting people like michele, katie, nadia. but he is not interesting in and of himself, at all. He's entirely predictable, h's so ****ing simple. There is nothing interesting about who he is at all.

abhorson
18-01-2015, 09:41 AM
Oh how i wish they could afford to send in Will i am for a few hours to see his friend Perez :cheer2:

Marsh.
18-01-2015, 05:07 PM
While I agree with the above comments that one person does not represent a whole group of people. However, the most ignorant of bigots will see Perez's behaviour and claim that all gay people are like that and unfortunately people who have never met an openly gay person in real life will believe this and spread homophobia.

What he is doing is dangerous, and he needs to realise that he could damage a community.

But, again, that problem lies with the ignorant person, not someone like Perez.

Denver
18-01-2015, 05:12 PM
Ive seen a few gay people on twitter say this

Braden
18-01-2015, 05:35 PM
I see both sides of the argument.

Anyone who judges other gay people based on Perez's actions/attitude are in the wrong for being simple-minded, so shame on them.

But at the same time I understand Michelle's DR rant. He is a bad representative of a community who are already marginalised. Unfortunately some people are ignorant towards the fact that gay people are individuals, so having Perez on TV acting so horrifying is not doing any justice for equality for gay people.

Mystic Mock
18-01-2015, 06:34 PM
No, he's not.

He provokes good TV from the actually interesting people like michele, katie, nadia. but he is not interesting in and of himself, at all. He's entirely predictable, h's so ****ing simple. There is nothing interesting about who he is at all.

The only time we see Katie and Michelle do anything is when they're ganging up on Perez or Alicia.

chuff me dizzy
18-01-2015, 06:41 PM
The only time we see Katie and Michelle do anything is when they're ganging up on Perez or Alicia.

Good isn't it ? :cheer2:

Vanessa
18-01-2015, 06:42 PM
The only time we see Katie and Michelle do anything is when they're ganging up on Perez or Alicia.

:worship:

Tony1111
18-01-2015, 06:53 PM
He is an embarrassment to gays, Americans and humanity.