Apathy of Young Voters - we need Red button on your remote voting

[arista]

Like push red now
if you want
Greens
Conservative
LibDem
UKIP
or
Labour


Everyone is on ITV1HD & ITV1 24hours click yellow button to enter the Voting room - to start

they are shown the lists of each party
then they go through each one slow
with sign saying Press red now

Then it Says thank you for your Vote
householder No.5 Berkshire Drive

There is no charge to Vote



have you got a better way to get the young to Vote?

[arista]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/06/06/russell-brand_612x380.jpg
Ignore Him
he is Negative saying do not vote

Someone Tweet this to him

[Kizzy]

nope, would be too easy to manipulate.

[arista]

nope, would be too easy to manipulate.



We could do test runs
to ensure it works OK
Modify any problems

[joeysteele]

I cannot see that coming about arista.

I agree something needs to be done as to getting all people voting, not just the young,what the answer is I don't know.

Polling stations often are in places out of the way, if people in a constituency had voting booths set up at their local supermarkets, maybe more would vote then.

In 2010, I came across people shopping, who said they weren't going to vote because the polling stations was down at some bowling green and they couldn't be bothered.
Had they been able to vote in the supermarket, they likely would have done.

I am not sure where I think voting should go, however I agree with Kizzy, the way set out in the op is likely open to abuse and manipulation.

[arista]

"I cannot see that coming about arista."


Sure but things change Fast
old folks catch up

And for any that need help
they will get it.


Polling Stations are not used enough
To many Do Not Vote


Not a problem as Tests would be done in Major places


like these TV Debates Ofcom
was using old data


Fecking Made a Error
And now the Greens will be on ITV
its being set up as we speak

[user104658]

Voter apathy in the young is not at all because they are lazy or out of touch and it doesn't say anything about young people. It says it all about Westminster politics. Young people don't bother to go out and vote because they don't feel like their vote means anything or that it will change anything. Labour tories labour tories flip flop flip flop nothing ever really changes. They're not wrong.

Give them a voice, make them feel like their vote actually matters - that what they are voting for has any sort of real impact - and it stop being a problem.

To illustrate: young voters turned up in droves to vote in the independence referendum and we're hugely engaged by the campaign on both sides. It felt important, it felt meaningful, the result had the potential to change politics in the country forever.

UK General election politics are a complete "meh". The question being asked is "which stuffy Eton prick would you like to run the country into the mud and not give a **** about you?". I completely understand people choosing to stay in bed and watch re-runs of Friends.

[Livia]

Voter apathy in the young is not at all because they are lazy or out of touch and it doesn't say anything about young people. It says it all about Westminster politics. Young people don't bother to go out and vote because they don't feel like their vote means anything or that it will change anything. Labour tories labour tories flip flop flip flop nothing ever really changes. They're not wrong.

Give them a voice, make them feel like their vote actually matters - that what they are voting for has any sort of real impact - and it stop being a problem.

To illustrate: young voters turned up in droves to vote in the independence referendum and we're hugely engaged by the campaign on both sides. It felt important, it felt meaningful, the result had the potential to change politics in the country forever.

UK General election politics are a complete "meh". The question being asked is "which stuffy Eton prick would you like to run the country into the mud and not give a **** about you?". I completely understand people choosing to stay in bed and watch re-runs of Friends.

If that sentence was changed to start: which snot-nosed comprehensive school prick would you like... then I'm guessing people would be outraged.

Everyone who votes was young once. I've voted since I was eligible because it is a privilege not afforded to everyone in the world and yet it's taken with such apathy in this country.

[T*]

mobile voting would be better, like by text

[arista]

mobile voting would be better, like by text

No good for the old
not everyone has a mobile

[Jamesy]

Online voting would be a better system. I think most young people just dread having to go to a polling station and probably feel it's a time consuming job. Having an option to vote online would be a good step forwards to encourage more people to get involved.

Obviously keep polling stations and postal voting like we have now. Just add online voting as an additional way for the younger generations.

[user104658]

If that sentence was changed to start: which snot-nosed comprehensive school prick would you like... then I'm guessing people would be outraged.

Everyone who votes was young once. I've voted since I was eligible because it is a privilege not afforded to everyone in the world and yet it's taken with such apathy in this country.
I vote too, I'm not saying people shouldn't, I'm just saying that it is a demonstrable fact that young people WILL go out and vote if the politics is vibrant and inspiring. It happened 6 months ago. The reason for young people not voting isn't because they can't do it on their iPhone. Westminster politics is stale and voter turnout across the board - not just young people - is abysmal as a result. People don't feel engaged, they don't feel like their vote matters, because Westminster feels like an "ivory tower" with the shutters firmly closed to outside influence of any kind.

[user104658]

Online voting would be a better system. I think most young people just dread having to go to a polling station and probably feel it's a time consuming job. Having an option to vote online would be a good step forwards to encourage more people to get involved.

Obviously keep polling stations and postal voting like we have now. Just add online voting as an additional way for the younger generations.
I think if anything has been shown lately, it's that things like elections are not ready to go digital. Security simply isn't tight enough to stop hacker groups from covertly fiddling results or, at the very least, simply crippling the system so that the vote has to be scrapped.

[Tom4784]

I don't think voting methods are the reason for low turnouts or the answer to it either. I think it's more to do with the quality of the candidates and the parties, it's difficult to care about any of them because they're all so subpar.

I personally couldn't care less who wins the elections as long as it's not UKIP or Conservatives, I just can't drum up the energy to care beyond that.

[MTVN]

Tbh if you think the short walk to the polling station is too much of an obstacle to voting then you're probably not serious or bothered enough about your vote and might as well not cast one

[Livia]

I vote too, I'm not saying people shouldn't, I'm just saying that it is a demonstrable fact that young people WILL go out and vote if the politics is vibrant and inspiring. It happened 6 months ago. The reason for young people not voting isn't because they can't do it on their iPhone. Westminster politics is stale and voter turnout across the board - not just young people - is abysmal as a result. People don't feel engaged, they don't feel like their vote matters, because Westminster feels like an "ivory tower" with the shutters firmly closed to outside influence of any kind.

Surely then kids should be introduced to politics properly in schools. Westminster, far from being an ivory tower, is open to the public. You can approach your MP for a visit, and even sit in on Prime Ministers Questions if you're lucky. There are always schools and groups of visitors trooping round the Commons.

I don't understand why, because voting is low with the young, that we have to brighten it up to encourage them to vote. I'm sure in the future texting and all kinds of methods will be brought in the way postal votes were, and now in my constituency something like 25% of votes cast are postal votes. As someone well versed in election law I've got to say, it would be a nearly impossible job to make sure there was no tampering or other monkey business because you can lock and seal a ballot box, you can you can't do that with a text.

[Nedusa]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/06/06/russell-brand_612x380.jpg
Ignore Him
he is Negative saying do not vote

Someone Tweet this to him

How many times in the past have we seen people like him , rich famous relatively Young , diving into politics finding a cause.


It's like a new Project to him, a new flag to fly , a new bell to ring.

Something to do until the next new hallucinogenic drug comes along....





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[Northern Monkey]

I'm lucky as my polling station is only a 15 minute walk.However I think this would be a good idea IF it could be protected from hackers but i fear internet security is not that good yet and may never be.Hackers always find a way.

[arista]

I'm lucky as my polling station is only a 15 minute walk.However I think this would be a good idea IF it could be protected from hackers but i fear internet security is not that good yet and may never be.Hackers always find a way.


But this would be
Via TV interactive
not the same as internet.

And Pre tests
would find out all the snags

[Marsh.]

One vote per house wouldn't work. I quite often have voted differently to parents/siblings.

[Scarlett.]

Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.

[arista]

One vote per house wouldn't work. I quite often have voted differently to parents/siblings.


They have ways of getting round that

Some homes have a TV for each person

And for those that do not
when you vote by the Red Button
you key in your own code.


Of Course Marsh
its all being worked out for the future

And everyone will Vote
by order
But there will be a option


"Press Red now
for none of the Above"


Keeping our R. Brand happy



Life In The Fast Lane

[arista]

Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.


Thats OK Chewy

They need a Legal Binding Contract

But in any case those that Hate them all
Press Red
For None Of The Above

[user104658]

How many times in the past have we seen people like him , rich famous relatively Young , diving into politics finding a cause.


It's like a new Project to him, a new flag to fly , a new bell to ring.

Something to do until the next new hallucinogenic drug comes along....





.
Except that Brand had been involved in a number of political marches / protests, and I believe was even arrested at one for standing on top of a police car (this is off the top of my head, might not be the reason) years before he was rich or famous...

[user104658]

Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.
The two of them actually, not just Clegg (who I assume you mean). I remember a lot of young people at the time really enthusiastic about David Cameron and the things he was peddling pre-election... And he went back on nearly every single one of his pledges.

[user104658]

Surely then kids should be introduced to politics properly in schools. Westminster, far from being an ivory tower, is open to the public. You can approach your MP for a visit, and even sit in on Prime Ministers Questions if you're lucky. There are always schools and groups of visitors trooping round the Commons.

Being able to physically go in and gawp at the "powerful people doing important things" and sit in their important little room listening to them lie about important issues "if you're lucky" does not make politics open. At best you're going to get a patronising handshake and then completely ignored if you actually have something to say. It is not inspiring or engaging at all.

[kirklancaster]

Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.

:laugh: I agree Chewy, but that just about sums up every weaselly, self-serving politician in the country, and every tedious political party. Politics is not only 'The last refuge of the scoundrel" (apologies to Johnson) but is also a very rich first class gravy train for those who are too smart to walk.

The day ANY politician in this country actually truthfully answers just one simple direct question during interviews, is the day I think Andrew Neil, Jeremy Paxman and Martha Kearney, and others will have heart attacks - and so will I.

[Pete.]

How do you know people aren't voting more than once

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[arista]

How do you know people aren't voting more than once

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/8/13/1281715325192/Katie-Price-006.jpg


Because once you code goes in
You Vote - It says Thank You

You try to vote again
it says Invalid Code &
this Person has Voted and gives Time / Date

But Tests have to be done over some time
first


Feel The Force

[kirklancaster]

Being able to physically go in and gawp at the "powerful people doing important things" and sit in their important little room listening to them lie about important issues "if you're lucky" does not make politics open. At best you're going to get a patronising handshake and then completely ignored if you actually have something to say. It is not inspiring or engaging at all.

This is not a 'confrontational' question T.S., I am just interested in what you would propose to coax adolescents to vote?

I agree that we have insipid politicians making insincere empty promises they have no intention of keeping, and tedious political parties, but some party has to govern and that party has to have a leader.

Livia has suggested a more forward thinking, more proactive approach by schools which is an excellent idea in my book - "Give me the child until he is seven and I'll give you the man" - and mentions 'field trips' by certain schools to Westminster and the Commons, none of which seems to sit with you.

Obviously, more flamboyant but sincere politicians, more vibrant, relevant, and honest political manifestos, and more openness in all our political parties would be a start, but I'm afraid, such ideals are beyond our control.

So how do you suggest we interest our kids in politics and get them to vote?

[user104658]

I don't think there is any simple solution, Westminster politics is (rightly, in my opinion) often seen as being a bit "stuffy" and old fashioned, and most of the people involved in it are not really relatable to most people. I know a lot of people like the tradition, ceremony, and rooms with green leather seats and feel that it's a positive for UK politics but it's just not engaging for most of the public - especially young people. The whole thing would need to be overhauled. Even the very concept of the "house of lords" is off-putting and - let's face it - the upper tiers of the commons isn't much better. Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Miliband... Despite their differing policies, they're all very similar "sorts of chap". As someone said, they're all attending the same social gatherings and drinking the same sparkling wine.

[GypsyGoth]

It could be made illegal not to vote. And even then I don't think everyone would turn out. Part of the problem is that there is an assumption that nothing changes regardless of who is in power. When it's clear the result means something, like in the recent independence referendum in scotland, there is a large turnout (84.5%). But even then you have over 15% choosing not to vote.

Maybe it's just human nature, some people don't care who is running the country or what type of government is in power. And I feel that even if you went door to door, making it as easy as possible, people would abstain.

So the only solution I see is the one I mentioned, pass a law that you have to vote, if people don't, then agents from the government confiscate your smartphone, or your pets or your hairbrush, whatever it takes. This might also solve the nation deficit on hairbrushes.

[Northern Monkey]

It could be made illegal not to vote. And even then I don't think everyone would turn out. Part of the problem is that there is an assumption that nothing changes regardless of who is in power. When it's clear the result means something, like in the recent independence referendum in scotland, there is a large turnout (84.5%). But even then you have over 15% choosing not to vote.

Maybe it's just human nature, some people don't care who is running the country or what type of government is in power. And I feel that even if you went door to door, making it as easy as possible, people would abstain.

So the only solution I see is the one I mentioned, pass a law that you have to vote, if people don't, then agents from the government confiscate your smartphone, or your pets or your hairbrush, whatever it takes. This might also solve the nation deficit on hairbrushes.l:joker:That is not democracy that is a dictatorship.It is our right to vote if we so choose.All votes have a right to abstain.

[Livia]

Being able to physically go in and gawp at the "powerful people doing important things" and sit in their important little room listening to them lie about important issues "if you're lucky" does not make politics open. At best you're going to get a patronising handshake and then completely ignored if you actually have something to say. It is not inspiring or engaging at all.

TS, your post just says to me that you've never experienced it and are making the scenario up based on your own preconceptions. You're talking about our Parliament. It shouldn't be run like the X Factor for the Twitter generation.

[joeysteele]

Surely then kids should be introduced to politics properly in schools. Westminster, far from being an ivory tower, is open to the public. You can approach your MP for a visit, and even sit in on Prime Ministers Questions if you're lucky. There are always schools and groups of visitors trooping round the Commons.

I don't understand why, because voting is low with the young, that we have to brighten it up to encourage them to vote. I'm sure in the future texting and all kinds of methods will be brought in the way postal votes were, and now in my constituency something like 25% of votes cast are postal votes. As someone well versed in election law I've got to say, it would be a nearly impossible job to make sure there was no tampering or other monkey business because you can lock and seal a ballot box, you can you can't do that with a text.


Although not in agreement as to who we want to win the next election Livia, you know I love your views and always learn something from you too.
Valuable learning I call it.

I was wondering what you thought could be the means to get more people voting.
Looking back, there were times when only 2 or 3 names were on ballot papers.
We now have like a shopping list of candidates and even parties on many ballot papers.

For me it is hard to understand that there can be no one on those ballot papers that a potential voter cannot find some common ground with as to supporting them.

More Parties, more candiates from all backgrounds,yet less and less actually voting.

I don't think I could trust internet voting or phone voting.so am stumped as to what the answer is to get more out to vote.
I can understand disillusionment but again, that can pnly really apply to those who have ahd power and failed badly,also in the case of the Lib Dems,kicking their voters in tyhe teeth for theri trust and votes for a share of time in power.

None of that is good for politics or getting people to vote, for them but then it seems, a wider choice doesn't help too.

Is it the voting system? Do 'new' voters and those who don;t vote, feel they would be wasting their time voting,could a new system of voting help in that.
Although AV was voted against in the referendum a few years ago.
Do we now need to have a system that shows every vote could count more.

I can still see the merits of 'first past the post' as to usually bringing strong govt. however that now seems under threat too with this multi party system building up more and more.
A multi party system that gives more choice but still fails to get more and more people out to vote.
However should it be right that any party could be in power unchecked or moderated by getting around or just above a thrid of the votes cast as may well be the case in May this year.

I actually too don't like the current postal votes system.
Unless they were done and posted after polling day, something could be revealed in the dying days of an election campaign that could be crucial to what we were told in the campaign.
Which may even have altered how someone would have voted, it is too late to change that once the postal vote is already gone.

I am just interested in what you think as to getting more people out with your knowledge of politics.
I don't agree compulsory voting is the answer but it is worrying when so many people are turned off a subject and people like MPs and potential MPs so much, that they don't vote when a great deal of what happens after an election and a govt. is in place,is going to affect all their lives considerably by the decisions those MPs in power make.

[arista]

Joey
Papers ?


in the Future its Press Red Button Now to
Vote


Conservative
Greens
LibDem
Labour
UKIP
SNP

or
None Of The Above


What a Better Voting System

[arista]

It could be made illegal not to vote. And even then I don't think everyone would turn out. Part of the problem is that there is an assumption that nothing changes regardless of who is in power. When it's clear the result means something, like in the recent independence referendum in scotland, there is a large turnout (84.5%). But even then you have over 15% choosing not to vote.

Maybe it's just human nature, some people don't care who is running the country or what type of government is in power. And I feel that even if you went door to door, making it as easy as possible, people would abstain.

So the only solution I see is the one I mentioned, pass a law that you have to vote, if people don't, then agents from the government confiscate your smartphone, or your pets or your hairbrush, whatever it takes. This might also solve the nation deficit on hairbrushes.


It will be
and with the Better Red button at home

those that hate all Politics
can click

None of The Above




Its a better Future in the Arista World

[arista]

and those that do not Vote by simply pushing the red button
will be posted a Fine

Thats Very Fair

[Livia]

Although not in agreement as to who we want to win the next election Livia, you know I love your views and always learn something from you too.
Valuable learning I call it.

I was wondering what you thought could be the means to get more people voting.
Looking back, there were times when only 2 or 3 names were on ballot papers.
We now have like a shopping list of candidates and even parties on many ballot papers.

For me it is hard to understand that there can be no one on those ballot papers that a potential voter cannot find some common ground with as to supporting them.

More Parties, more candiates from all backgrounds,yet less and less actually voting.

I don't think I could trust internet voting or phone voting.so am stumped as to what the answer is to get more out to vote.
I can understand disillusionment but again, that can pnly really apply to those who have ahd power and failed badly,also in the case of the Lib Dems,kicking their voters in tyhe teeth for theri trust and votes for a share of time in power.

None of that is good for politics or getting people to vote, for them but then it seems, a wider choice doesn't help too.

Is it the voting system? Do 'new' voters and those who don;t vote, feel they would be wasting their time voting,could a new system of voting help in that.
Although AV was voted against in the referendum a few years ago.
Do we now need to have a system that shows every vote could count more.

I can still see the merits of 'first past the post' as to usually bringing strong govt. however that now seems under threat too with this multi party system building up more and more.
A multi party system that gives more choice but still fails to get more and more people out to vote.
However should it be right that any party could be in power unchecked or moderated by getting around or just above a thrid of the votes cast as may well be the case in May this year.

I actually too don't like the current postal votes system.
Unless they were done and posted after polling day, something could be revealed in the dying days of an election campaign that could be crucial to what we were told in the campaign.
Which may even have altered how someone would have voted, it is too late to change that once the postal vote is already gone.

I am just interested in what you think as to getting more people out with your knowledge of politics.
I don't agree compulsory voting is the answer but it is worrying when so many people are turned off a subject and people like MPs and potential MPs so much, that they don't vote when a great deal of what happens after an election and a govt. is in place,is going to affect all their lives considerably by the decisions those MPs in power make.

Hey Joey... actually, I'm not sure who I want to win the General Election. There isn't anyone out there who reflects my ideals.

As for engaging young people in politics, I'd get young interested in politics. into schools. Maybe politics students. When I worked for the Tories, they had Conservative Future (which used to be Young Conservatives) who would go into schools and talk to young people about voting and politics and how it works and affects them. It wasn't done from the Tory slant, their aim was to get young people thinking and discussing about politics. It was young people engaging with young people and in the areas it happened, it was successful. I don't know if other parties do this, but if they don't, they should.

I also think it's vitally important to remember that politicians are not some elite, far above us. They are public servants.

[arista]

"I don't think I could trust internet voting or phone voting"

Yes Joey thats why Red Button TV Remote is our future


"I'm not sure who I want to win the General Election"

Yes Livia this is what Mattters now
the 30% who do not know yet
they control the end result.
So you are like Gold

And I am Tin
Predicted/ Loyal etc.


So good job No MP's and Staff spying on my thread
can not locate you

[Kizzy]

If politicians really wanted young people to be interested in politics they would ensure it was an integral part of the curriculum.

[arista]

If politicians really wanted young people to be interested in politics they would ensure it was an integral part of the curriculum.


Yes thats on its way.

[user104658]

TS, your post just says to me that you've never experienced it and are making the scenario up based on your own preconceptions. You're talking about our Parliament. It shouldn't be run like the X Factor for the Twitter generation.
Thats entirely the point though Luvia. Like I said, I personally do find politics interesting and am engaged with it, but it's pretty obvious that the nation's youth is not interested, and that is BECAUSE of how Westminster is generally perceived. The fact that peoples ideas are based on preconceptions - whether they are accurate or not - almost proves the point. Westminster politics is stuffy and insular and doesn't do enough to properly engage the general public. If they did, these preconceptions wouldn't be commonplace.

As you say - it's important to remember that these people are not our betters, they are public servants. But do you honestly believe that the upper tier politicians WANT us to remember that? I'm talking your Thatchers, Camerons, Blairs, Osbournes, and the majority of the "minister for..."s here, not your salt of the earth local MPs who to be fair are often excellent.

I mean really. Come on. If you and I were to stroll up to Dave and George - assuming we didnt get shot for trying - and inform them that they are just public servants and in no way our superiors, can you see them sincerely agreeing? I personally suspect they'd struggle not to snigger.

[user104658]

Oh and come on arista! Red button is not the future of anything, let alone general elections. Over-the-air television probably wont exist at all in 20 years. Red button is going the way of Teletext, and soon!

[Livia]

Thats entirely the point though Luvia. Like I said, I personally do find politics interesting and am engaged with it, but it's pretty obvious that the nation's youth is not interested, and that is BECAUSE of how Westminster is generally perceived. The fact that peoples ideas are based on preconceptions - whether they are accurate or not - almost proves the point. Westminster politics is stuffy and insular and doesn't do enough to properly engage the general public. If they did, these preconceptions wouldn't be commonplace.

As you say - it's important to remember that these people are not our betters, they are public servants. But do you honestly believe that the upper tier politicians WANT us to remember that? I'm talking your Thatchers, Camerons, Blairs, Osbournes, and the majority of the "minister for..."s here, not your salt of the earth local MPs who to be fair are often excellent.

I mean really. Come on. If you and I were to stroll up to Dave and George - assuming we didnt get shot for trying - and inform them that they are just public servants and in no way our superiors, can you see them sincerely agreeing? I personally suspect they'd struggle not to snigger.

Actually, I have spoken to both Dave and George. I might have gone to Cambridge but I also went to an east London comprehensive and they are in no way superior to me, to you, to anyone. And yes, I can see them agreeing that they're public servants because that's what they are. If they are voted out of their seats in May, they're out of a job the pair of them. In my previous job I had to interact with MPs on all levels, and while they are a few blowhards, mentioning no names... the majority of them are quite approachable and always meeting up with constituents who are, in effect, their employers.

Parliament's been much the same for hundreds of years, with a few notable modernisations. It isn't perfect but it's the very best we've got, and it's a model for other parliaments across the world. I don't see any need to change it simply because a section of society finds it stuffy. Young people don't engage with politics, they also don't engage with insurance, with getting a plumber in, with income tax returns... a whole host of things they haven't had anything to do with yet and frankly I don't think we should sex up these things so that they are accessible. Politics likewise... however, it desperately needs to be on the curriculum - as you said.

[arista]

Oh and come on arista! Red button is not the future of anything, let alone general elections. Over-the-air television probably wont exist at all in 20 years. Red button is going the way of Teletext, and soon!


Thats Dead



Red Button Remote Voting
is our future it has to change
no other way

[GypsyGoth]

Parliament's been much the same for hundreds of years, with a few notable modernisations. It isn't perfect but it's the very best we've got, and it's a model for other parliaments across the world. I don't see any need to change it simply because a section of society finds it stuffy. Young people don't engage with politics, they also don't engage with insurance, with getting a plumber in, with income tax returns... a whole host of things they haven't had anything to do with yet and frankly I don't think we should sex up these things so that they are accessible. Politics likewise... however, it desperately needs to be on the curriculum - as you said.

:worship:

[James]

That was interesting behind-the-scenes documentary I have just watched 'Inside the Commons' on the BBC. First part of 4.

Apparently the Houses of Parliament needs a huge amount of renovation work on it, running into billions. They mentioned that in the (first part of the) documentary but didn't go into detail about it.

[user104658]

That was interesting behind-the-scenes documentary I have just watched 'Inside the Commons' on the BBC. First part of 4.

Apparently the Houses of Parliament needs a huge amount of renovation work on it, running into billions. They mentioned that in the (first part of the) documentary but didn't go into detail about it.
"Need" is a strong word. They could just bulldoze it and build them a nice big shed. Maybe "forget" to tell a couple of them about the demolition...

[arista]

That was interesting behind-the-scenes documentary I have just watched 'Inside the Commons' on the BBC. First part of 4.

Apparently the Houses of Parliament needs a huge amount of renovation work on it, running into billions. They mentioned that in the (first part of the) documentary but didn't go into detail about it.


Rats down stairs
how very nice

[kirklancaster]

Hey Joey... actually, I'm not sure who I want to win the General Election. There isn't anyone out there who reflects my ideals.

As for engaging young people in politics, I'd get young interested in politics. into schools. Maybe politics students. When I worked for the Tories, they had Conservative Future (which used to be Young Conservatives) who would go into schools and talk to young people about voting and politics and how it works and affects them. It wasn't done from the Tory slant, their aim was to get young people thinking and discussing about politics. It was young people engaging with young people and in the areas it happened, it was successful. I don't know if other parties do this, but if they don't, they should.

I also think it's vitally important to remember that politicians are not some elite, far above us. They are public servants.

I love your posts - as you know - but I'm not convinced that including politics in the curriculum of a lot of our schools will do much good, because we already have a diverse range of subjects from Maths to Geography and English, and yet a hell of a lot of 17 year olds can't spell 'Cat' and think '4 x 4' is a car. :laugh:

[MTVN]

That was interesting behind-the-scenes documentary I have just watched 'Inside the Commons' on the BBC. First part of 4.

Apparently the Houses of Parliament needs a huge amount of renovation work on it, running into billions. They mentioned that in the (first part of the) documentary but didn't go into detail about it.

I saw that as well, was really interesting

[arista]

They will make pushing the Red button
to vote easy so a 4 year old could do it.


Everyone will have a private code
that must be keyed in before you vote

They will do a few years of Special tests
of all ages of people

Then it will be the better safe way to vote
and that special one
"None Of The Above"

So non voters stay non voters

[Niall]

Well I'd say such apathy is warranted sadly. When all the main political parties blur into one homogenous mess of ineffectuality, then there aren't many other pertinent reactions you can have.

[arista]

Well I'd say such apathy is warranted sadly. When all the main political parties blur into one homogenous mess of ineffectuality, then there aren't many other pertinent reactions you can have.


Yes so the 2 debates with 7 leaders is for you


And when the home voting comes in
they have a section for you
Press Red for "None Of The Above"