View Full Version : Katie Hopkins Do you like Katie Hopkins?
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 01:55 PM
Just wanted to see what the ratio was on here
Vote in the Poll, I'm not putting an option in for you fence sitters :nono:
Nope. Never have never will.
Denver
19-01-2015, 01:56 PM
Yes she is the new national treasure :worship:
Jack_
19-01-2015, 01:56 PM
As a housemate or as a person?
The former yes, the latter never
Lostie!
19-01-2015, 01:57 PM
No. :yuk:
Loukas
19-01-2015, 01:58 PM
As a housemate or as a person?
The former yes, the latter never
This.
Pincho Paxton
19-01-2015, 02:01 PM
I'm not into psycho bitches.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 02:01 PM
Yes, she is brilliant.
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 02:02 PM
As a housemate or as a person?
The former yes, the latter never
This.
A bit of both I guess
-Sue-
19-01-2015, 02:02 PM
Nope can't stand the woman
InOne
19-01-2015, 02:03 PM
Nope. She's a complete z-lister and hypocrite. Hopefully in a few years she will vanished into obscurity.
Didn't like her on the Apprentice and I've seen nothing to make me change my opinion since
chuff me dizzy
19-01-2015, 02:04 PM
Bad news for her haters .........shes now fav to win the show !! http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/celebrity-big-brother/winner
Kazanne
19-01-2015, 02:04 PM
I find myself liking her more than not,so yes.
zakman440
19-01-2015, 02:05 PM
Liked her until last night with her behaviour towards Perez.
mizzy25
19-01-2015, 02:06 PM
like her yes
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 02:07 PM
As a housemate or as a person?
The former yes, the latter never
Good point
As a housemate no. She's manic, loud and just another version of Perez
As a person no but I find her mind interesting, even though its a very sick one. Whilst she likes to say it as she sees it, saying they should start re-bombing Palestine, calling Glaswegians smelly and condemning that aid worker who is suffering ebola as well as calling all the unemployed benefit scroungers. isn't something that will ever endear her to the masses.
ED to say: If I find a persons views on life abhorrent, I can't find the more acceptable parts of their personality pleasant. If on the other hand I agreed with her views, I'm sure I'd be a fan!
abhorson
19-01-2015, 02:07 PM
In Favourite & Least Favourite Housemates poll. Katie H is ahead by some distance. Not the same as like i know.
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 02:08 PM
Bad news for her haters .........shes now fav to win the show !! http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/celebrity-big-brother/winner
Not surprising really, if someone as disgusting as Helen could win regular BB :shrug: The audience seems to have done a 360 from before voting for the nicest HM to win to now the nastiest
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 02:12 PM
Bad news for her haters .........shes now fav to win the show !! http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/celebrity-big-brother/winner
Why do I find that disturbing :(
Black Dagger
19-01-2015, 02:15 PM
Liking her less and less every episode. Her talking about Perez every episode for the past 4 days while doing little else is absolutely ~riveting~
Lostie!
19-01-2015, 02:16 PM
Liking her less and less every episode. Her talking about Perez every episode for the past 4 days while doing little else is absolutely ~riveting~
Ann while having a go at others for talking to him. It's all she did in yesterday's episode. :laugh2:
Kazanne
19-01-2015, 02:18 PM
Helen !! now there was a housemate , I despised her with a passion the first week,I did a total U turn and by the end she was my fave,so glad she won.
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 02:19 PM
Helen !! now there was a housemate , I despised her with a passion the first week,I did a total U turn and by the end she was my fave,so glad she won.
She was exactly the same from the start to finish though a nasty, foul mouthed bully :laugh:
Razor
19-01-2015, 02:20 PM
Whats to like? Double standards, rude and loves herself. Plus she looks like she is in her mid fifties on not 30's.
AnnieK
19-01-2015, 02:20 PM
Can't stand her....everything about her makes my hackles rise. I try not to let my previous views dictate how I find them as a housemate but I can't let it go with Katie as much as I tried. Any woman who has taken three other women's husbands shows the type of women she is. Her views are inflammatory and verging on ridiculous. Just a troll of the highest order - I actually thought that was just her being a keyboard warrior but now I see its how she is on a day to day basis she went even lower in my estimations
Kazanne
19-01-2015, 02:22 PM
She was exactly the same from the start to finish though a nasty, foul mouthed bully :laugh:
We all see things differently,I think Helen had a really nice side to her,I saw that aswell as the gobby side,I also saw times when she was genuinely sorry for some things she had said and done.
Denver
19-01-2015, 02:23 PM
Here for her being made a Dame in the Queens birthday honours list :smug: :dance:
Daniel.
19-01-2015, 02:23 PM
I liked her, then hated her, then like her again for her absoloute dragging of Perez
Lostie!
19-01-2015, 02:24 PM
We all see things differently,I think Helen had a really nice side to her,I saw that aswell as the gobby side,I also saw times when she was genuinely sorry for some things she had said and done.
I remember seeing her softer side (when she comforted an upset Christopher after Matthew left, for example), but she rendered that pointless when she went back to being horrible, which she always did.
And it doesn't sound like she's been much better since the show ended, either.
I love her :flutter:
Watching my fat story has made me love her even more.
Black Dagger
19-01-2015, 02:25 PM
~has she rly dragged Perez tho, constantly saying somebody should be isolated isn't dragging somebody~
AnnieK
19-01-2015, 02:27 PM
I actually think she would be great in panto.....its almost a pantomime villain she is portraying.
Lostie!
19-01-2015, 02:28 PM
I actually think she would be great in panto.....its almost a pantomime villain she is portraying.
How did you know? :shocked:
http://i3.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1492296.ece/alternates/s615b/Panto%201
Yes iconic her slaying perez <3 take down the rat katie
Liam-
19-01-2015, 02:34 PM
It goes against every part of being, but yes i do like her
AnnieK
19-01-2015, 02:43 PM
Just out of interest - to the people who have answered yes - is it that you like her as a housemate or a person?
No, I detest her! She's rotten to the core.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 02:47 PM
Just out of interest - to the people who have answered yes - is it that you like her as a housemate or a person?
Both, however please don't confuse that with I agree with everything she has ever said. I don't know anyone in the world including family who I completely agree with.
Kazanne
19-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Just out of interest - to the people who have answered yes - is it that you like her as a housemate or a person?
I really like her as a housemate ,as a person,I don't think she is half as bad as she portrays,I would love to ask her about some of the things she has said and I think she would give an answer that would give me food for thought,there is a reason behind what she says,most people don't analyse it and just take it as face value and think she's horrible,that might be the case,but I think there is much more to her thoughts.
AnnieK
19-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Both, however please don't confuse that with I agree with everything she has ever said. I don't know anyone in the world including family who I completely agree with.
No obviously I get that, I am genuinely just interested in peoples views on her.
Liam-
19-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Just out of interest - to the people who have answered yes - is it that you like her as a housemate or a person?
As a housemate mainly, i hated her before she went into the house :laugh:
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 02:50 PM
Both, however please don't confuse that with I agree with everything she has ever said. I don't know anyone in the world including family who I completely agree with.
Whilst that's true, her extreme views and incredible rudeness aren't just little differences like most people I associate with would have :laugh:
Just out of interest - to the people who have answered yes - is it that you like her as a housemate or a person?
Both, I don't like a housemate if I don't like them as a person
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 02:52 PM
I really like her as a housemate ,as a person,I don't think she is half as bad as she portrays,I would love to ask her about some of the things she has said and I think she would give an answer that would give me food for thought,there is a reason behind what she says,most people don't analyse it and just take it as face value and think she's horrible,that might be the case,but I think there is much more to her thoughts.
I've analysed it and decided mostly it's get her on TV and keep herself in the spotlight :hehe:
Denver
19-01-2015, 02:52 PM
Just out of interest - to the people who have answered yes - is it that you like her as a housemate or a person?
Both she is A Queen and one of a kind
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 02:57 PM
Both she is A Queen and one of a kind
thanks **** for that! :hehe:
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 02:59 PM
Whilst that's true, her extreme views and incredible rudeness aren't just little differences like most people I associate with would have :laugh:
Fair enough, I guess where we disagree is I don't find her views extreme or her comments incredibly rude, even if I don't agree with the substance of all of her views.
Pink Pegasus
19-01-2015, 03:00 PM
We all see things differently,I think Helen had a really nice side to her,I saw that aswell as the gobby side,I also saw times when she was genuinely sorry for some things she had said and done.
I was a Helen fan too! Sorry Niamh. :laugh:
(I don't usually follow what the people are like once they leave big brother, but on this forum there was a thread about Helen's comments regarding the Chloe/Jermey situation and I was very disappointed and really disagreed with her)
I don't like Katie Hopkins.
She doesn't make my blood though like she does with a lot of people. She bores me more than anything. I just think about Katie- Yeah you're 'opinionated', we get it, move along dear..
I can see why some people like her as a housemate but she just doesn't interest me.
Cami winds me up A LOT more than Katie H. !
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 03:04 PM
I was a Helen fan too! Sorry Niamh. :laugh:
(I don't usually follow what the people are like once they leave big brother, but on this forum there was a thread about Helen's comments regarding the Chloe/Jermey situation and I was very disappointed and really disagreed with her)
I don't like Katie Hopkins.
She doesn't make my blood though like she does with a lot of people. She bores me more than anything. I just think about Katie- Yeah you're 'opinionated', we get it, move along dear..
I can see why some people like her as a housemate but she just doesn't interest me.
Cami winds me up A LOT more than Katie H. !
A leopard doesn't change it's spots Peggy :nono: the moral of the story is, you should just listen to me, because I'm always right :hehe:
I don't think Hopkins is one of a kind AT ALL, Jeez Perez is basically the male version of her from America for starters.
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 03:07 PM
Fair enough, I guess where we disagree is I don't find her views extreme or her comments incredibly rude, even if I don't agree with the substance of all of her views.
Really? the stuff about not letting her kids play with children who have certain names? Or saying that Israel should start bombing the Palestinians? etc etc isn't extreme? or constantly telling a person who's really pretty harmless that they're thick all the time for no good reason isn't being rude?
Pink Pegasus
19-01-2015, 03:08 PM
A leopard doesn't change it's spots Peggy :nono: the moral of the story is, you should just listen to me, because I'm always right :hehe:
Maybe my not supporting Katie H can atone for my sins. :laugh:
(Still think Helen was a good housemate at the time though * runs* ) :p:D
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 03:09 PM
Maybe my not supporting Katie H can atone for my sins. :laugh:
(Still think Helen was a good housemate at the time though * runs* ) :p:D
fair enough, I'll just pretend I couldn't read that last bit :idc:
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 03:12 PM
I've analysed it and decided mostly it's get her on TV and keep herself in the spotlight :hehe:
Or flip it around and you could say the views she holds (Which she always had) are in demand from TV. They pay her to say and write what she always thinks, sounds like a good gig to me.
Perhaps the Newspapers or TV stations should be blamed if people don't like what she has to say. After all if they didn't pay her less people would know her views, perhaps people should demand the media censor her as they don't like what she has to say and it offends them.
Perhaps, just perhaps they should get a gun and make the media listen, after all, she is offensive and must be stopped.
That is why I like Katie, her right to offend.
Don't like her by all means, don't like all she has to say (I don't), however I don't think she has ever expected to be liked.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 03:18 PM
Really? the stuff about not letting her kids play with children who have certain names? Or saying that Israel should start bombing the Palestinians? etc etc isn't extreme? or constantly telling a person who's really pretty harmless that they're thick all the time for no good reason isn't being rude?
I respect her right to hold those views and her right to voice them, I have never seen her say anything which is ilegal. If she has broken any laws, please feel free to point them out.
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 03:26 PM
Here for her being made a Dame in the Queens birthday honours list :smug: :dance:
For doing what?
cfromhx02
19-01-2015, 03:29 PM
What a strange question.How could you like Katie Hopkins ? You may find her entertaining but surely no one that isn't ill could find her likeable.
Noticed she is currently favourite on this website.Why is she favourite. How obnoxious do you have to be to have people be against you.
Given that it's often the most cruel to others people that win this show,I think it says a lot about the state of large sections of our broken society.
There are other ways to argue if you like watching argumentative people,as I've said before,good people can argue too,and it's fun watching them put nasty people in their place.
Teach them some manners.
Let's face it,we have to put up with nasty,incredibly unthinking of other people all the time outside the house,
so wouldn't it be nice for a change if in the house the good people were backed to teach the nasties some manners while they are trapped in the house,if they want to keep the money of course.
But no for some reason,some people hate good people and hate it when they argue back,
they are expected to sit their like lambs and have the nasties like Katie Hopkins mentally abuse them
and treat them like cr*p to get their money while the nasties that do that to trapped people,often pick on the weakest,
are loved by some for
doing it.
Pretty disgusting if you think about it,how there is one rule where good people get turned on for fighting the nasties
yet the nasties are praised and looked up to for torturing the good people,
like I said,says a lot about some sections of this broken system.
Niamh.
19-01-2015, 03:33 PM
Or flip it around and you could say the views she holds (Which she always had) are in demand from TV. They pay her to say and write what she always thinks, sounds like a good gig to me.
Perhaps the Newspapers or TV stations should be blamed if people don't like what she has to say. After all if they didn't pay her less people would know her views, perhaps people should demand the media censor her as they don't like what she has to say and it offends them.
Perhaps, just perhaps they should get a gun and make the media listen, after all, she is offensive and must be stopped.
That is why I like Katie, her right to offend.
Don't like her by all means, don't like all she has to say (I don't), however I don't think she has ever expected to be liked.
Je suis Charlie
I respect her right to hold those views and her right to voice them, I have never seen her say anything which is ilegal. If she has broken any laws, please feel free to point them out.
I don't like the box you're trying to put me into here with your "Je suis Charlie"s and asking me if what she's said was illegal. I just said I didn't like the woman and find her and her views repulsive. Don't try to put words in my mouth please.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 03:36 PM
I don't like the box you're trying to put me into here with your "Je suis Charlie"s and asking me if what she's said was illegal. I just said I didn't like the woman and find her and her views repulsive. Don't try to put words in my mouth please.
As is your right, my apologies.
I have self censored, The first comment.
Brother Leon
19-01-2015, 03:39 PM
Nah. She's more disgusting than Perez without an inch of the fun or entertainment.
Michelle though>>
Pincho Paxton
19-01-2015, 03:41 PM
I was a Helen fan too! Sorry Niamh. :laugh:
(I don't usually follow what the people are like once they leave big brother, but on this forum there was a thread about Helen's comments regarding the Chloe/Jermey situation and I was very disappointed and really disagreed with her)
I don't like Katie Hopkins.
She doesn't make my blood though like she does with a lot of people. She bores me more than anything. I just think about Katie- Yeah you're 'opinionated', we get it, move along dear..
I can see why some people like her as a housemate but she just doesn't interest me.
Cami winds me up A LOT more than Katie H. !
Q/ What's Helen's second name?
A/ Back
smudgie
19-01-2015, 03:46 PM
No.
An absolute turd of a woman.
robroy_2000
19-01-2015, 04:30 PM
No
Vanessa
19-01-2015, 04:38 PM
No, she's a vile bully and a coward. :yuk:
ebandit
19-01-2015, 04:47 PM
1st night i thought i was liking perez and hating katie h....................
ms hopkins would hate me as i prefer not to work and to be blunt
am a bone idle w*nker
the rest is history tiny tears perez bugs me and i warmed to katie h
she's funny in a quiet way
also i appreciate her strength of resolve and willingness to speak her mind
Mark L
Gusto Brunt
19-01-2015, 05:05 PM
Whats to like? Double standards, rude and loves herself. Plus she looks like she is in her mid fifties on not 30's.
A couple of days ago she looked in her 80s.
As a housemate or as a person?
The former yes, the latter never
They're both the same, aren't they?
Pincho Paxton
19-01-2015, 05:36 PM
They're both the same, aren't they?
No.
Bad housemates are good.
Bad people are Bad.
Good people are good.
Good housemates are boring.
Boring housemates are bad.
Boring people are bad.
Have you got that! Good!
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 06:06 PM
The thing is, we aren't allowed to speak our minds on this site. I have a lot to say but I can't say it because it may offend some Hopkins fans, ironic isn't it!.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:12 PM
The thing is, we aren't allowed to speak our minds on this site. I have a lot to say but I can't say it because it may offend some Hopkins fans, ironic isn't it!.
Can't speak for anyone else but it wouldn't offend me, I might question it though. Of course I'm not a mod, so I'm not sure who is stopping you speaking your mind. No one has stopped me yet.
I assume you would follow the forum rules still, or is it the rules stopping you?
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:14 PM
The thing is, we aren't allowed to speak our minds on this site. I have a lot to say but I can't say it because it may offend some Hopkins fans, ironic isn't it!.
Say what you like, just don't beak the rules.
The thing is, we aren't allowed to speak our minds on this site. I have a lot to say but I can't say it because it may offend some Hopkins fans, ironic isn't it!.
you can surely make any point you need to make without taking a pop at forum members. That's basically the only restriction
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:16 PM
Dont worry all they pathetically type is that we are not seeing the truth... what truth she is a vile disgusting embarrassment of not just a woman but a human being.
Having an opinion does not make it by definition "The Truth" it's what you think. Of course you can say it but there is no objective way to judge it's "Truth" and other may well disagree.
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:17 PM
Can't speak for anyone else but it wouldn't offend me, I might question it though. Of course I'm not a mod, so I'm not sure who is stopping you speaking your mind. No one has stopped me yet.
I assume you would follow the forum rules still, or is it the rules stopping you?
:sad:It must be. Because i would not stop anyone.
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:19 PM
Dont worry all they pathetically type is that we are not seeing the truth... what truth she is a vile disgusting embarrassment of not just a woman but a human being.
Is that a rule break:laugh:
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:20 PM
:sad:It must be. Because i would not stop anyone.
That would be my guess, the forum rules seem very fair to me. I can say I hate Perez, I can't and would not say I hate someone on the forum who likes Perez.
Nope, I did for a while but making fun of Perez's man parts (if you will) was out of order, and she's nothing but a pathetic bully. She doesn't even come across particularly intellectual to be honest, so she's basically mean and useless
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:22 PM
That would be my guess, the forum rules seem very fair to me. I can say I hate Perez, I can't and would not say I hate someone who likes Perez.
Same here. I have never hated anyone. Dislike yes, hate no.
andybigbro
19-01-2015, 06:24 PM
You're allowed to have opinions obviously. Just don't bring members into it. Every member can support whoever they want, but when people start talking about fans of housemates and say what they type, it's not acceptable. Discuss housemates, not the fans. :thumbs:
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:26 PM
You're allowed to have opinions obviously. Just don't bring members into it. Every member can support whoever they want, but when people start talking about fans of housemates and say what they type, it's not acceptable. Discuss housemates, not the fans. :thumbs:
:clap1::clap1:
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:27 PM
You're allowed to have opinions obviously. Just don't bring members into it. Every member can support whoever they want, but when people start talking about fans of housemates and say what they type, it's not acceptable. Discuss housemates, not the fans. :thumbs:
More than fair, keeps it friendly and fun.
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 06:42 PM
Can't speak for anyone else but it wouldn't offend me, I might question it though. Of course I'm not a mod, so I'm not sure who is stopping you speaking your mind. No one has stopped me yet.
I assume you would follow the forum rules still, or is it the rules stopping you?
I said something the other day regarding the fans of certain people. I didn't curse, didn't call people names and was very careful how I voiced myself but was immediately told I was breaking the rules and that we aren't allowed to write anything that could be seen as derogatory or offensive towards other members using this site. I can see why; I mean, where would it begin and where would it end.... what's offensive?...how long is a piece of string?!?.
My point is, how can we suggest that Hopkins is great because she speaks her mind and doesn't care who she offends when the press have created a captive audience for her to do just that and even pay her to spread vitriol and hate. We, her audience don't have that same luxury. We her audience are censored, edited and deleted.
LukeB
19-01-2015, 06:43 PM
Nope, I did for a while but making fun of Perez's man parts (if you will) was out of order, and she's nothing but a pathetic bully. She doesn't even come across particularly intellectual to be honest, so she's basically mean and useless
She was trolling Perez like he trolls the house but he can't take it back just sulks like a baby:laugh:
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:47 PM
I said something the other day regarding the fans of certain people. I didn't curse, didn't call people names and was very careful how I voiced myself but was immediately told I was breaking the rules and that we aren't allowed to write anything that could be seen as derogatory or offensive towards other members using this site. I can see why; I mean, where would it begin and where would it end.... what's offensive?...how long is a piece of string?!?.
My point is, how can we suggest that Hopkins is great because she speaks her mind and doesn't care who she offends when the press have created a captive audience for her to do just that and even pay her to spread vitriol and hate. We, her audience don't have that same luxury. We her audience are censored, edited and deleted.
There are plenty of places that you can insult her fans if that is your pleasure, just not here. Other than that you can say pretty much what you like.
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:50 PM
She was trolling Perez like he trolls the house but he can't take it back just sulks like a baby:laugh:
Exactly. For me one of the reasons i now like her. She is the only one really giving it back to the fruit loop.
coffee
19-01-2015, 06:51 PM
I hated her when she went in but I wanted to give all house mates a fresh slate and I'm glad I did because I am LIVING for her now.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:51 PM
I said something the other day regarding the fans of certain people. I didn't curse, didn't call people names and was very careful how I voiced myself but was immediately told I was breaking the rules and that we aren't allowed to write anything that could be seen as derogatory or offensive towards other members using this site. I can see why; I mean, where would it begin and where would it end.... what's offensive?...how long is a piece of string?!?.
My point is, how can we suggest that Hopkins is great because she speaks her mind and doesn't care who she offends when the press have created a captive audience for her to do just that and even pay her to spread vitriol and hate. We, her audience don't have that same luxury. We her audience are censored, edited and deleted.
Sorry not seen your post and as I'm not a mod can't comment about what you were told.
Your second point about the media, I can only say money talks, if enough people stop buying the paper or watching the show and the owners link that to KH she will be out on her ear, other than that or if she breaks the law she has freedom's of speech and freedom to offend.
With regard to censorship and the right to reply, if you mean this forum, please see my first point, if you mean TV/Newspapers your right you have no right to reply on their dime. However we are lucky to live in an age where media is available to the masses. You could start a "I hate Katie" site, or Facebook, Twitter, etc and move to get enough people on your side. You still can't stop Katie saying what she wants after that, nor should you be able to.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:53 PM
There are plenty of places that you can insult her fans if that is your pleasure, just not here. Other than that you can say pretty much what you like.
Good point, I'm not sure but I think they were talking about the mass media.:shrug:
abhorson
19-01-2015, 06:55 PM
Sorry not seen your post and as I'm not a mod can't comment about what you were told.
Your second point about the media, I can only say money talks, if enough people stop buying the paper or watching the show and the owners link that to KH she will be out on her ear, other than that or if she breaks the law she has freedom's of speech and freedom to offend.
With regard to censorship and the right to reply, if you mean this forum, please see my first point, if you mean TV/Newspapers your right you have no right to reply on their dime. However we are lucky to live in an age where media is available to the masses. You could start a "I hate Katie" site, or Facebook, Twitter, etc and move to get enough people on your side. You still can't stop Katie saying what she wants after that, nor should you be able to.
Je suis Charlie.
duclos
19-01-2015, 06:55 PM
Yes. She is one of the best HMs in there.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 06:57 PM
Je suis Charlie.
Indeed:douf:
indifferent for her in the house
i hate her outside it
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 06:58 PM
Nope, I did for a while but making fun of Perez's man parts (if you will) was out of order, and she's nothing but a pathetic bully. She doesn't even come across particularly intellectual to be honest, so she's basically mean and useless
She's not intellectual! An intellectual has a good understanding of reality. They are cultured creators or mediators who's opinions come from critical study of a subject. At best, Hopkins is a 'sudo intellect ' and a superficial snob.
I said something the other day regarding the fans of certain people. I didn't curse, didn't call people names and was very careful how I voiced myself but was immediately told I was breaking the rules and that we aren't allowed to write anything that could be seen as derogatory or offensive towards other members using this site. I can see why; I mean, where would it begin and where would it end.... what's offensive?...how long is a piece of string?!?.
My point is, how can we suggest that Hopkins is great because she speaks her mind and doesn't care who she offends when the press have created a captive audience for her to do just that and even pay her to spread vitriol and hate. We, her audience don't have that same luxury. We her audience are censored, edited and deleted.
but you are not censored from commenting on the housemates which is the focus of the forum. You can make any relevant point without targeting forum members and therefore making it a personal attack. All it requires is a bit of thought before posting
Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2015, 07:00 PM
yes, i would get on fine with her
The thing is, we aren't allowed to speak our minds on this site. I have a lot to say but I can't say it because it may offend some Hopkins fans, ironic isn't it!.
This is completely untrue, as well as being slightly hypocritical, moaning about free speech whilst wanting to offend anyone that has a different opinion..
You can say what you like on here AS LONG as it is about the housemates/BB. There is no need at all for you to air your views about the fans of other housemates, it is against the rules for a reason, it adds nothing of worth to the point of this forum, creates bad feeling amongst groups of fans and turns threads into page after page of arguing that most other members have no interest in reading through.
No disrespect intended but if you have to resort to insulting fans of housemates that you don't like to get your points across then I doubt what's on your mind is really worth posting.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 07:09 PM
She's not intellectual! An intellectual has a good understanding of reality. They are cultured creators or mediators who's opinions come from critical study of a subject. At best, Hopkins is a 'sudo intellect ' and a superficial snob.
I don't believe Katie has ever claimed to be an intellectual. Thus can't really blame her for labels others have placed on her, if she called herself a Doctor then she would be wrong, if someone else called her a Doctor it's not her responsibility.
As far as snob goes, I can see where you are coming from, as a dictionary definition, a lot more people than you think would be classed as snobs, myself included. I know it is generally meant as an insult, which is of course fair enough.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 07:11 PM
This is completely untrue, as well as being slightly hypocritical, moaning about free speech whilst wanting to offend anyone that has a different opinion..
You can say what you like on here AS LONG as it is about the housemates/BB. There is no need at all for you to air your views about the fans of other housemates, it is against the rules for a reason, it adds nothing of worth to the point of this forum, creates bad feeling amongst groups of fans and turns threads into page after page of arguing that most other members have no interest in reading through.
No disrespect intended but if you have to resort to insulting fans of housemates that you don't like to get your points across then I doubt what's on your mind is really worth posting.
Well said.:clap1::clap1::clap1:
joeysteele
19-01-2015, 07:12 PM
As a housemate she has been a better than I believed she would be until the last 2 nights highlights.
Overall however I cannot stand the woman, I would likely be arguing with her all the time if I knew her.
Kazanne
19-01-2015, 07:14 PM
As a housemate she has been a better than I believed she would be until the last 2 nights highlights.
Overall however I cannot stand the woman, I would likely be arguing with her all the time if I knew her.
I'de pay to see that Joey :wavey::hehe:
DemolitionRed
19-01-2015, 07:17 PM
This is completely untrue, as well as being slightly hypocritical, moaning about free speech whilst wanting to offend anyone that has a different opinion..
I wasn't moaning about free speech! I said, we don't have the same luxury as Hopkins because we may offend people. I have no intention of offending anyone but if they wish to take offence at what I have to say when its not directed at them, then they have to own it.
I could say you offended me by accusing me of moaning but I won't because you didn't!
You can say what you like on here AS LONG as it is about the housemates/BB. There is no need at all for you to air your views about the fans of other housemates, it is against the rules for a reason, it adds nothing of worth to the point of this forum, creates bad feeling amongst groups of fans and turns threads into page after page of arguing that most other members have no interest in reading through.
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I agree but I thought I made that clear in what I wrote.
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No disrespect intended but if you have to resort to insulting fans of housemates that you don't like to get your points across then I doubt what's on your mind is really worth posting.
Actually if you had read what I'd written you would fully understand that, that was never my intention and more importantly, was not my point. Just as we misconstrue characters in the house, the written word is often misconstrued to be something it is not.
abhorson
19-01-2015, 07:18 PM
Katie H really is marmite it seems. I love marmite!
Anaesthesia
19-01-2015, 07:23 PM
I do quite like her, didn't think I would. She has some opposing views to mine, but I think she is intelligent, and I think she has a right to voice her opinion. I think she does have a heart and she can be very reasoned.
Still prefer Michelle, and I have also have always had a soft spot for the way Katie Price has the ability to turn haters into comrades. I like the 3 of them together.
chuff me dizzy
19-01-2015, 07:25 PM
Katie H really is marmite it seems. I love marmite!
Im not a lover of Marmite, but Love KH !! :joker:
abhorson
19-01-2015, 07:26 PM
I do quite like her, didn't think I would. She has some opposing views to mine, but I think she is intelligent, and I think she has a right to voice her opinion. I think she does have a heart and she can be very reasoned.
Still prefer Michelle, and I have also have always had a soft spot for the way Katie Price has the ability to turn haters into comrades. I like the 3 of them together.
You know. You are right about Katie P with that. Just thought about it and she does.
Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2015, 07:27 PM
This is completely untrue, as well as being slightly hypocritical, moaning about free speech whilst wanting to offend anyone that has a different opinion..
You can say what you like on here AS LONG as it is about the housemates/BB. There is no need at all for you to air your views about the fans of other housemates, it is against the rules for a reason, it adds nothing of worth to the point of this forum, creates bad feeling amongst groups of fans and turns threads into page after page of arguing that most other members have no interest in reading through.
No disrespect intended but if you have to resort to insulting fans of housemates that you don't like to get your points across then I doubt what's on your mind is really worth posting.
:clap2:
abhorson
19-01-2015, 07:29 PM
Im not a lover of Marmite, but Love KH !! :joker:
Spread the love thickly :laugh:
chuff me dizzy
19-01-2015, 07:30 PM
Spread the love thickly :laugh:
Sure do !! :joker:
Spoon
19-01-2015, 07:44 PM
No. She's awful, as a person and a housemate.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 07:48 PM
I wasn't moaning about free speech! I said, we don't have the same luxury as Hopkins because we may offend people. I have no intention of offending anyone but if they wish to take offence at what I have to say when its not directed at them, then they have to own it.
I could say you offended me by accusing me of moaning but I won't because you didn't!
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You can say what you like on here AS LONG as it is about the housemates/BB. There is no need at all for you to air your views about the fans of other housemates, it is against the rules for a reason, it adds nothing of worth to the point of this forum, creates bad feeling amongst groups of fans and turns threads into page after page of arguing that most other members have no interest in reading through.
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I agree but I thought I made that clear in what I wrote.
Actually if you had read what I'd written you would fully understand that, that was never my intention and more importantly, was not my point. Just as we misconstrue characters in the house, the written word is often misconstrued to be something it is not.
If Katie H was posting on this site she would have to follow the same rules as everyone else but she would still be able to say some if not all things. For example I can say " I hate Perez he is fat" or "I hate all fat people from Liverpool" what I can't say on this forum is "I hate (Insert any member's name) you are from Liverpool ando thus are fat. That would break the rules, I have been a member of forums without this rule, it is chaos and they soon become pointless.
Now in the real world Katie still has to follow the law of the land set by the democratic system, which are different to the rules of an Internet forum. I could say anyone from Liverpool is fat and I hate them, even if it was not true and it offended people.
I do not know everything she has ever said but given her high profile i would expect if she did break the law it would soon be mentioned. At the same time you are entitled within the law to respond to her as you see fit. Again I am not a legal expert so could not tell you exactly what is legally acceptable.
Even if she did break the law it would have to go to court and be proven. As I said before you can if you wish avail yourself of all modern media tools and reply to Katies or anyone else's comments as you see fit.
abhorson
19-01-2015, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;7507817]I wasn't moaning about free speech! I said, we don't have the same luxury as Hopkins because we may offend people. I have no intention of offending anyone but if they wish to take offence at what I have to say when its not directed at them, then they have to own it.
I could say you offended me by accusing me of moaning but I won't because you didn't!
If Katie H was posting on this site she would have to follow the same rules as everyone else but she would still be able to say some if not all things. For example I can say " I hate Perez he is fat" or "I hate all fat people from Liverpool" what I can't say on this forum is "I hate (Insert any member's name) you are from Liverpool ando thus are fat. That would break the rules, I have been a member of forums without this rule, it is chaos and they soon become pointless.
Now in the real world Katie still has to follow the law of the land set by the democratic system, which are different to the rules of an Internet forum. I could say anyone from Liverpool is fat and I hate them, even if it was not true and it offended people.
I do not know everything she has ever said but given her high profile i would expect if she did break the law it would soon be mentioned. At the same time you are entitled within the law to respond to her as you see fit. Again I am not a legal expert so could not tell you exactly what is legally acceptable.
Even if she did break the law it would have to go to court and be proven. As I said before you can if you wish avail yourself of all modern media tools and reply to Katies or anyone else's comments as you see fit.
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9/10. I never give anyone a ten. Only myself:laugh:
Seriously though. Perfectly put with your post
JTM45
19-01-2015, 08:47 PM
She's an odious hag!
abhorson
19-01-2015, 08:49 PM
She's an odious hag!
Seems lovely to me. And smoking the red pigeon task tonight.
Jack The Cat
19-01-2015, 08:53 PM
Seems lovely to me. And smoking the red pigeon task tonight.
BB played a blinder with the task, perfect for Katie H to shine in.
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