The New trend with Big Brother

[Niamh.]

I've been thinking lately about the "types" of favourites/winners over the years and it seems to me that Big Brother has gone into phase 3 of the type of people the public want to win. At the very beginning it was the nicest Housemate who went on to win the series, that continued up to BB8 (not counting Nadia or Petes wins, i think they won because their story was different and they had a lot of sympathy votes) Brian belo winning started the craze of nice but dim people winning and now we seem to be at phase 3 with nasty HMs "redemption stories" (which are so fake imo) with the like of katie Hopkins being favourite and Helen winning last year.

Thoughts?

[Josy]

My only thoughts are to agree with basically everything you said.

I think I preferred it more when the 'nicer' people won it tbh, it's alright supporting entertaining housemates through because they are giving you something to watch every night but to crown them a winner even if they are nasty bastards just doesn't sit right with me.

That said I tend to not really care who wins these days :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It may reflect the rise of facebook/twitter. Strong characters become popular as they can be talked about more.

[Pincho Paxton]

The betting on the show became more intricate. It works out that you win more money by picking an outsider like Helen, and then phoning in a lot of the time to save her. So long as enough people join together in this technique the worst housemates will keep winning. At the beginning nobody figured out the best way to make money from the show.

[Lostie!]

I've been thinking lately about the "types" of favourites/winners over the years and it seems to me that Big Brother has gone into phase 3 of the type of people the public want to win. At the very beginning it was the nicest Housemate who went on to win the series, that continued up to BB8 (not counting Nadia or Petes wins, i think they won because their story was different and they had a lot of sympathy votes) Brian belo winning started the craze of nice but dim people winning and now we seem to be at phase 3 with nasty HMs "redemption stories" (which are so fake imo) with the like of katie Hopkins being favourite and Helen winning last year.

Thoughts?

My only thoughts are to agree with basically everything you said.

I think I preferred it more when the 'nicer' people won it tbh, it's alright supporting entertaining housemates through because they are giving you something to watch every night but to crown them a winner even if they are nasty bastards just doesn't sit right with me.

That said I tend to not really care who wins these days :laugh:

I agree with all of this.

As Josy said, I understand appreciating entertainment value in certain housemates, but I ultimately like "nice" to win. I don't like people being rewarded for nastiness.

It's not as big a deal with CBB because the winner doesn't get a prize for winning, but Helen winning and receiving the prize money after being a toxic piece of work for 10 weeks really riled me.

[Niamh.]

It may reflect the rise of facebook/twitter. Strong characters become popular as they can be talked about more.

Maybe. Do you reckon the fact that Big Brother is less popular now has anything to do with it? As in the if the same amount of people watched and voted, the nice people might still win it but maybe those people just aren't watching anymore?

[Niamh.]

I agree with all of this.

As Josy said, I understand appreciating entertainment value in certain housemates, but I ultimately like "nice" to win. I don't like people being rewarded for nastiness.

It's not as big a deal with CBB because the winner doesn't get a prize for winning, but Helen winning and receiving the prize money after being a toxic piece of work for 10 weeks really riled me.

Yeah and it's funny how everyone hated her and was dying for someone to take her on but the minute they did people started taking Helens side :laugh:

[Shaun]

Interesting that an Aaron fan starts this thread :hehe:

unless you've now seen the light <3

[Jack The Cat]

I've been thinking lately about the "types" of favourites/winners over the years and it seems to me that Big Brother has gone into phase 3 of the type of people the public want to win. At the very beginning it was the nicest Housemate who went on to win the series, that continued up to BB8 (not counting Nadia or Petes wins, i think they won because their story was different and they had a lot of sympathy votes) Brian belo winning started the craze of nice but dim people winning and now we seem to be at phase 3 with nasty HMs "redemption stories" (which are so fake imo) with the like of katie Hopkins being favourite and Helen winning last year.

Thoughts?

Interesting point, on the whole think you are right.

If voting behaviour is linked to how the nation is feeling, you could say phase one is the optimism of the New Century with (New Labour). Phase two was a more Environmentally aware (Green) and phase three is more feeling let down by the status quo (UKIP).

I'm struggling a bit with phase 2.

[Niamh.]

Interesting that an Aaron fan starts this thread :hehe:

unless you've now seen the light <3



I don't think Aaron was nasty though and also, I think he won because of the FB voting ...............which they promptly cancelled :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Interesting point, on the whole think you are right.

If voting behaviour is linked to how the nation is feeling, you could say phase one is the optimism of the New Century with (New Labour). Phase two was a more Environmentally aware (Green) and phase three is more feeling let down by the status quo (UKIP).

I'm struggling a bit with phase 2.

:laugh:

or you could compare it with the stages of life -
Phase 1 the optimism and positivity of a child
Phase 2 the sometimes silliness of a teenager
Phase 3 the grumpiness of an adult as reality sets in

[Jack The Cat]

:laugh:

or you could compare it with the stages of life -
Phase 1 the optimism and positivity of a child
Phase 2 the sometimes silliness of a teenager
Phase 3 the grumpiness of an adult as reality sets in

Hats off, I think you got it spot on then, what is the next phase, maybe old age, nostalgia and a return to nicer times.

Or perhaps Death

[Niamh.]

Hats off, I think you got it spot on then, what is the next phase, maybe old age, nostalgia and a return to nicer times.

Or perhaps Death

Death is looking likely but fingers crossed for nostalgia anyway :laugh:

[Mokka]

I don't think Aaron was nasty though and also, I think he won because of the FB voting ...............which they promptly cancelled :laugh:

This could be very true...
That was the only series I found away to hack the system and vote for Aaron...from Canada

Then they cancelled it and I haven't voted since

[wendywillow]

I don't know about phase 3, Helens win was a fluke, she would've been long gone if not for.....you know.

[Daniel.]

Jim Davidson and Helen winning in the same year was nothing more than rewarding nastiness imo

I would still rather someone like Helen win than Christopher win tho

[LukeB]

I saw this on tumblr the other day :laugh:


https://40.media.tumblr.com/1f70d7895b6f1aa97cd1a2615acc17df/tumblr_nadgco4VO61sy1lm2o1_400.jpghttps://41.media.tumblr.com/e23427ec558d1b68521d9401aff7ce20/tumblr_nadgco4VO61sy1lm2o2_400.jpg

So in six years we’ve gone from goody two shoes winners winning to this

[Lostie!]

I saw this on tumblr the other day :laugh:

Rachel. :lovedup:
Helen :yuk:

I was so happy when Rachel won. I must have been vocal about my support of her because I remember my friend texting me saying "Your favourite won then!". :laugh2:

BB15's finale left me with very different emotions. :unsure:

[Niamh.]

This could be very true...
That was the only series I found away to hack the system and vote for Aaron...from Canada

Then they cancelled it and I haven't voted since

same here, i voted loads for Aaron but wasn't able to vote since they cancelled it

[Jamesy]

Agree with a lot in here. I preferred it when the nice people won. We kind of seem to bounce between sympathy votes and horrible people at the moment.

The winners usually never bothers me. Helen (BB15) winning is the only time I've felt it was the wrong winner and not deserved in any way.

Ironic though how for years people have moaned about the nice/boring ones winning and the minute we get to having the controversial one winning 90% of people moan. :laugh:

[LukeB]

Rachel. :lovedup:
Helen :yuk:

I was so happy when Rachel won. I must have been vocal about my support of her because I remember my friend texting me saying "Your favourite won then!". :laugh2:

BB15's finale left me with very different emotions. :unsure:

I loved Rachel, so happy she won,Rex was my favourite of the series but was so chuffed about the winner,

[Niamh.]

Agree with a lot in here. I preferred it when the nice people won. We kind of seem to bounce between sympathy votes and horrible people at the moment.

The winners usually never bothers me. Helen (BB15) winning is the only time I've felt it was the wrong winner and not deserved in any way.

Ironic though how for years people have moaned about the nice/boring ones winning and the minute we get to having the controversial one winning 90% of people moan. :laugh:

I guess getting nice and really entertaining is a big ask :laugh: Brian Dowling :worship:

[LukeB]

I think the most entertaining winner we had was Pete imo
and the nicest winner was Rachel

[bots]

i think the change is due to a couple of factors. The BB highlights show is driven by drama. If there is none, then these days its artificially created by the production team.

Because the highlights show is driven by drama, and there is next to no live feed, housemates are judged on their reactions to events, good or bad. Instant judgements are formed with housemates unable to change anything unless they create some more drama with them in it that shows them in positive light. It all gets very contrived I think

The rise in popularity of facebook and twitter campaigns then focussing on these "mini bites" exaggerates everything to another level again, so a "normal" person has next to no chance of winning now.

CBB is slightly different because of housemates existing fan bases. Cheggers for instance will do extremely well whether he says boo to a goose or not.

[Jack The Cat]

I say get back to basics

Bring back the Chickens.

Oh how I miss BB1.

:sad:

[Niamh.]

I think the most entertaining winner we had was Pete imo
and the nicest winner was Rachel

Brian Dowling was the best winner imo, he was nice, incredible funny and very entertaining

[Raph]

Id agree with what your saying Niamh but I think Rachel is the only exception to that as she really was just nice

[-Sue-]

I've been thinking lately about the "types" of favourites/winners over the years and it seems to me that Big Brother has gone into phase 3 of the type of people the public want to win. At the very beginning it was the nicest Housemate who went on to win the series, that continued up to BB8 (not counting Nadia or Petes wins, i think they won because their story was different and they had a lot of sympathy votes) Brian belo winning started the craze of nice but dim people winning and now we seem to be at phase 3 with nasty HMs "redemption stories" (which are so fake imo) with the like of katie Hopkins being favourite and Helen winning last year.

Thoughts?

oh god Brian I remember seeing him on Celeb come dine with me :D was so funny he fell off his chair! (I will blame Sophie's high heels and tutu dress) everytime she bent down to go in her kitchen freezer Brian I thought was going to drool so much the table would float away) :joker:
Brian Dowling was superb in that show :D (my fave ever BB winner)
Cameron seemed to win & vanish! (how he won I do not know all he seemed to do was read his bible)
Josie was great :D
So many lovely winners but my goodness so many evil eejits lately - maybe my brain is stuck in 'waltons' mode and I just like the fun filled nice great to watch people :D rather than the evil barstewards with mouths like sewers

Admittedly last few years I haven't been as addicted to the HMs as I have been in the C4 days it just seems you have to be a fake tanned boobs out for the boys good looking airbrain with a foul mouth to be on BB these days - A good mix of people would be great this year for BB (not just youngsters)

...wow I wrote a mini-novel..

[johne]

Yeah, great idea. I miss the "psychological experiment" approach too. There's no going back though, it's the Roman circus now feeding victims to the lions.

That's the answer - forget the chickens, we need lions in the garden.

[JoshBB]

I agree actually - as a Helen fan too.

[InOne]

Not many people knew Helen's back story but Hopkins has been about for a while now. There's no excuse for her winning because there's no redemption being seen as all. She as big of a twat as well.

[abhorson]

My thinking is all the trashy reality shows viewers now like that sort of character such as bed wetter puker.