View Full Version : what is perez doing that is offending the gay community so much?
I don't get the outrage, what is he doing that is offended so many homosexuals?
Chuckyegg
22-01-2015, 08:00 AM
Wrongly Accusing people of being homophobic I think.
Jack The Cat
22-01-2015, 08:08 AM
I don't think one should assume that anyone has been offended, like all communities, LGBT is made up of many individuals who will each have their own opinion. Many will love Perez, many will dislike him, the vast majority will probably not care either way.
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 08:12 AM
Breathing :idc:
Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2015, 08:16 AM
I don't get the outrage, what is he doing that is offended so many homosexuals?
You need to qualify "outrage"
where and when ?
VanessaFeltz.
22-01-2015, 08:32 AM
I will only talk for myself I find Perez very offensive because there are lots of gays out there besides me who doesnt have basic rights specially people who lives in syria, iran, iraq etc gets killed and they cant escape from it. For example isis threw 2 of them from an apartment just because they are gay recently. (well they kill everybody but this is just an example) Perez has freedom and perez uses his life in such a disgusting way and it makes me upset. I have a little bit of hope and chance in life but i feel really really bad when people get killed because of who they are and people like perez just use their life in a disgusting way. With that being said Perez is a good housemate for creating drama but he sucks at life.
You need to qualify "outrage"
where and when ?
just a few posts I have read this morning and this michelle creature, keeps banging on about it..why do people feel the need to point out that he is gay.
Niamh.
22-01-2015, 09:09 AM
I don't think one should assume that anyone has been offended, like all communities, LGBT is made up of many individuals who will each have their own opinion. Many will love Perez, many will dislike him, the vast majority will probably not care either way.
This and Michelle is out of order saying that as well. Each heterosexual person isn't automatically a representative of all straight people and neither should an individual gay man be a representative for all gay men. That's just stupid.
Jack The Cat
22-01-2015, 09:11 AM
This and Michelle is out of order saying that as well. Each heterosexual person isn't automatically a representative of all straight people and neither should an individual gay man be a representative for all gay men. That's just stupid.
Very true.
Denver
22-01-2015, 09:37 AM
TBH when he goes around accussing everyone of being homophobic when there clearer not
tbh when he goes around accussing everyone of being homophobic when there clearer not
so calling someone a ****** ass, clearly makes you non homophobic.
Denver
22-01-2015, 09:42 AM
so calling someone a ****** ass, clearly makes you non homophobic.
If your going to qoute it qoute it right
Pincho Paxton
22-01-2015, 09:56 AM
Michelle said what he was doing. He was being outrageous in the garden. A lot of the community didn't agree with her.
This and Michelle is out of order saying that as well. Each heterosexual person isn't automatically a representative of all straight people and neither should an individual gay man be a representative for all gay men. That's just stupid.
:worship::worship::worship:
Neverwhill understand Michelle's thinking....because I am straight ...It's like saying Katie p represents me:conf:
thom_bombadil
22-01-2015, 10:09 AM
He's not doing anything. Michelle is offended, and any sheep amongst the viewers that are easily influenced by what she says. Perez dancing around the garden making sex noises was funny, regardless of whether you like him or not.
Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2015, 10:14 AM
What is interesting is that the gay members of this forum do not seem to like him or kav and have gone very silent about michelle
Denver
22-01-2015, 10:17 AM
Michelle said what he was doing. He was being outrageous in the garden. A lot of the community didn't agree with her.
Alot have actually been offended by him
thom_bombadil
22-01-2015, 10:21 AM
What is interesting is that the gay members of this forum do not seem to like him or kav and have gone very silent about michelle
True. I don't like him overall, but at the same time I do feel sorry for him. His personality screams bully victim. He's messed up.
Kav hasn't done anything worthy of making the highlights, apart from last night when he completely embarrassed himself, not the gay community.
Michelle has mated up with the wrong person. Don't think I need to say a name.
If your going to qoute it qoute it right
cant you just address the issue rather than be smart?
Denver
22-01-2015, 11:17 AM
cant you just address the issue rather than be smart?
No because what was said you have twisted it
No because what was said you have twisted it
what did he say then, cause I thought it was something like "beat his ******y ass"
Jack The Cat
22-01-2015, 11:54 AM
what did he say then, cause I thought it was something like "beat his ******y ass"
This is what Alex said.
'You're going to sit there with that silly a** *******ot look on your face!'
This is what Alex said.
'You're going to sit there with that silly a** *******ot look on your face!'
oh, well..that makes all the difference!!:joker:
Jack The Cat
22-01-2015, 12:12 PM
oh, well..that makes all the difference!!:joker:
Well I think it is certainly better than
something like "beat his ******y ass":joker:
Benjamin
22-01-2015, 12:20 PM
I'm not offended by him. You get all types of homosexual men, including people like him. If people feel he is reinforcing the stereotype then they clearly have issues themselves. I know he does not represent me, so if he wants to act the way he does I couldn't give a toss.
Benjamin
22-01-2015, 12:21 PM
What is interesting is that the gay members of this forum do not seem to like him or kav and have gone very silent about michelle
The history of this forum is that most gay males in BB are hated, especially by other gay males. I'm actually struggling to remember one that was liked.
Jack The Cat
22-01-2015, 12:24 PM
The history of this forum is that most gay males in BB are hated, especially by other gay males. I'm actually struggling to remember one that was liked.
What about Brian Dowling, surely everyone liked him as a contestant.
Amy Jade
22-01-2015, 12:25 PM
He's not doing anything. Michelle is offended, and any sheep amongst the viewers that are easily influenced by what she says. Perez dancing around the garden making sex noises was funny, regardless of whether you like him or not.
Ermm nah I never found it even slightly funny.
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 12:36 PM
He's damaging our reputation by going around constantly accusing people of being homophobic. How the hell do gay people expect to be treated equally when the heterosexual community are scared they may say something that offends us.
He can behave however he likes but when he throws such accusations out there he generalises all of us and its very damaging and disrespectful to the LGBT community who fought so hard for equal rights and were faced with ACTUAL homophobia.
Benjamin
22-01-2015, 12:40 PM
He's damaging our reputation by going around constantly accusing people of being homophobic. How the hell do gay people expect to be treated equally when the heterosexual community are scared they may say something that offends us.
He can behave however he likes but when he throws such accusations out there he generalises all of us and its very damaging and disrespectful to the LGBT community who fought so hard for equal rights and were faced with ACTUAL homophobia.
:laugh3:
Niamh.
22-01-2015, 01:07 PM
What about Brian Dowling, surely everyone liked him as a contestant.
Best HM ever :love:
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 01:11 PM
:laugh3:
Whats so funny?
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 01:14 PM
oh, well..that makes all the difference!!:joker:
It does actually.
Creggle
22-01-2015, 01:25 PM
I will only talk for myself I find Perez very offensive because there are lots of gays out there besides me who doesnt have basic rights specially people who lives in syria, iran, iraq etc gets killed and they cant escape from it. For example isis threw 2 of them from an apartment just because they are gay recently. (well they kill everybody but this is just an example) Perez has freedom and perez uses his life in such a disgusting way and it makes me upset. I have a little bit of hope and chance in life but i feel really really bad when people get killed because of who they are and people like perez just use their life in a disgusting way. With that being said Perez is a good housemate for creating drama but he sucks at life.
:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:
Miranda123
22-01-2015, 01:26 PM
I don't get the outrage, what is he doing that is offended so many homosexuals?
I dont care if he is gay, straight, square, round or oblong
He is a Grade A C..t and I cant wait for him to get outside and see how hated he is..................
Here's hoping that Child Services in LA are keeping a watchful eye on that poor baby, as for the women who gave the child to him, she needs locking up!
Miranda123
22-01-2015, 01:30 PM
He's damaging our reputation by going around constantly accusing people of being homophobic. How the hell do gay people expect to be treated equally when the heterosexual community are scared they may say something that offends us.
He can behave however he likes but when he throws such accusations out there he generalises all of us and its very damaging and disrespectful to the LGBT community who fought so hard for equal rights and were faced with ACTUAL homophobia.
well said, but its not just the homophobe angle, he uses every 'phobe' out there to justify his ****ty behaviour and try to get others into trouble for questioning his disgusting antics
I dont think the gay community should be too bothered by him, humanity has many 'rejects' and they come in many shapes, sizes, and sexual preferences
Wishing someone would kick him in the bo llocks so I can watch him squeal like the bitch he is!
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 01:31 PM
I dont care if he is gay, straight, square, round or oblong
He is a Grade A C..t and I cant wait for him to get outside and see how hated he is..................
Here's hoping that Child Services in LA are keeping a watchful eye on that poor baby, as for the women who gave the child to him, she needs locking up!
Low blow bringing his kid into it.
He could actually be a really good dad, I think his behaviour in the CBB house is one big act to entertain the British public.
We should really stick to discussing his house antics and not bring children into it or his personal life on the outside.
abhorson
22-01-2015, 01:32 PM
I dont care if he is gay, straight, square, round or oblong
He is a Grade A C..t and I cant wait for him to get outside and see how hated he is..................
Here's hoping that Child Services in LA are keeping a watchful eye on that poor baby, as for the women who gave the child to him, she needs locking up!
**** me :joker: Harsh but to the point.
You were right about Nadie on the fan thread but very naughty to do so :wavey:
Miranda123
22-01-2015, 01:35 PM
Low blow bringing his kid into it.
He could actually be a really good dad, I think his behaviour in the CBB house is one big act to entertain the British public.
We should really stick to discussing his house antics and not bring children into it or his personal life on the outside.
I dont see how you can suggest that someone so obviously deranged can be a good father, Ive no doubt he loves the child, and would not mean to do anything bad to it, but his influence will destroy this childs life as sure as the nose on your face
This is not about gay adoption/surrogacy etc but about a manic schizophrenic bringing up a kid without medication, no adoption agency would sanction his parentage and therefore he should not be allowed to raise a child
Id say the same about Alicia, unfortunately, she is already giving her kids the idea that dying is better than having no boobs
Im sure breast cancer sufferers loved that little gem of hers, thick f..king insensitive bitch!
Miranda123
22-01-2015, 01:39 PM
**** me :joker: Harsh but to the point.
You were right about Nadie on the fan thread but very naughty to do so :wavey:
yeah kinda forgot I was ON Fan thread there, oops
abhorson
22-01-2015, 01:41 PM
yeah kinda forgot I was ON Fan thread there, oops
Made me bloody laugh. I have been wanting to do it!
Kazanne
22-01-2015, 01:42 PM
I dont see how you can suggest that someone so obviously deranged can be a good father, Ive no doubt he loves the child, and would not mean to do anything bad to it, but his influence will destroy this childs life as sure as the nose on your face
This is not about gay adoption/surrogacy etc but about a manic schizophrenic bringing up a kid without medication, no adoption agency would sanction his parentage and therefore he should not be allowed to raise a child
Id say the same about Alicia, unfortunately, she is already giving her kids the idea that dying is better than having no boobs
Im sure breast cancer sufferers loved that little gem of hers, thick f..king insensitive bitch!
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Benjamin
22-01-2015, 01:55 PM
I stand by my point. If fags want to be offended that he his representing them, then so be it. But he does not offend me or my sexuality and he does not represent all gay men and those gay men that think differently clearly have a long way to go with feeling comfortable with themselves.
Vanessa
22-01-2015, 01:59 PM
I stand by my point. If fags want to be offended that he his representing them, then so be it. But he does not offend me or my sexuality and he does not represent all gay men and those gay men that think differently clearly have a long way to go with feeling comfortable with themselves.
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chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:01 PM
Best HM ever :love:
God !! :worship:
I stand by my point. If fags want to be offended that he his representing them, then so be it. But he does not offend me or my sexuality and he does not represent all gay men and those gay men that think differently clearly have a long way to go with feeling comfortable with themselves.
Well said Ben:lovedup:
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:03 PM
I dont see how you can suggest that someone so obviously deranged can be a good father, Ive no doubt he loves the child, and would not mean to do anything bad to it, but his influence will destroy this childs life as sure as the nose on your face
This is not about gay adoption/surrogacy etc but about a manic schizophrenic bringing up a kid without medication, no adoption agency would sanction his parentage and therefore he should not be allowed to raise a child
Id say the same about Alicia, unfortunately, she is already giving her kids the idea that dying is better than having no boobs
Im sure breast cancer sufferers loved that little gem of hers, thick f..king insensitive bitch!
:clap1: THIS is clear proof that surrogacy is wrong No adoption/social services agency would allow someone so clearly mentally insane to adopt a child ...I also agree with what you say about Alicia too
Shaun
22-01-2015, 02:04 PM
It's not a direct link. It's not as clear cut as saying "if Perez does a bad thing, then everyone watching will hate gays". And the comparisons made here with "if Nadia did a bad thing everyone would hate straights!!!" are really just another tedious example of heterosexuals thinking they are in any way relevant, comparable or marginalised, lol.
I think from Michelle's viewpoint she spends 90% of her time living, working with drag queens and overly-dramatic people, but these are (for the most part) stage characters and masks that're put on for a show. She doesn't usually deal with these sorts of people (as hysterical and melodramatic as Perez) in a 24/7 environment. So she's quite used to distinguishing the "on-stage" and "off-stage" personalities of drag queens.
Whilst, yes, we should accept that people who identify as gay have a wide variety of personalities and some of them are going to be as toxically awful as Perez's, at the same time there are those who're 100% unfamiliar with gay people. I know this to be true, I'm surrounded by tiny little white villages where everyone's happily married and the gays are these weird little foreign identities. So the whole cause she's a part of is of a relevance that's different to every community. In New Jersey (where she's from), it's more of a case of "we want marriage equality", whereas in other places it's just the right to be represented and heard. I'm sure that 99% of people on here are able to see that Perez =/= all gays. I'm not sure that a lot of others are.
I don't know. I'm conflicted about the whole thing :laugh: I can see why she's appalled and worried by the prospect of people judging a community by him, but at the same time obviously they shouldn't. It's just a question of whether they do. In my experience some do.
And obviously a lot of people are writing her off because of connected incidents with Alicia, and how she's aligned with Katie Hopkins. Believe me, I'm probably the most frustrated by the latter fact :laugh: But they're really unrelated incidents.
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:05 PM
Low blow bringing his kid into it.
He could actually be a really good dad, I think his behaviour in the CBB house is one big act to entertain the British public.
We should really stick to discussing his house antics and not bring children into it or his personal life on the outside.
You've watched it on BB ,would you let it babysit your child ? I certainly would not
Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2015, 02:05 PM
well perez has put me off going gay
Pincho Paxton
22-01-2015, 02:06 PM
He's put me off cheese!
Jack The Cat
22-01-2015, 02:06 PM
well perez has put me off going gay
Perez would advise you to "Go Gay, For Pay".
Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2015, 02:07 PM
Perez would advise you to "Go Gay, For Pay".
:joker:
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:08 PM
well perez has put me off going gay
Im not bothering either :nono:
Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2015, 02:12 PM
Im not bothering either :nono:
that is 2 recruits down
not sure about Morsh though :shrug:
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 02:18 PM
I dont see how you can suggest that someone so obviously deranged can be a good father, Ive no doubt he loves the child, and would not mean to do anything bad to it, but his influence will destroy this childs life as sure as the nose on your face
This is not about gay adoption/surrogacy etc but about a manic schizophrenic bringing up a kid without medication, no adoption agency would sanction his parentage and therefore he should not be allowed to raise a child
Id say the same about Alicia, unfortunately, she is already giving her kids the idea that dying is better than having no boobs
Im sure breast cancer sufferers loved that little gem of hers, thick f..king insensitive bitch!
His son isn't adopted though its his biological son.
I agree his performance on tv is embaressing to the child but so are pretty much any parent who goes on CBB. Im just saying he could actually be a good dad so why don't we just focus on the twat he is inside the house and not on his little boy.
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:21 PM
His son isn't adopted though its his biological son.
I agree his performance on tv is embaressing to the child but so are pretty much any parent who goes on CBB. Im just saying he could actually be a good dad so why don't we just focus on the twat he is inside the house and not on his little boy.
The baby is a surrogate baby,he should be removed, you cannot buy safety and security and this innocent child is being raised by a mentally disturbed freak
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 02:25 PM
I stand by my point. If fags want to be offended that he his representing them, then so be it. But he does not offend me or my sexuality and he does not represent all gay men and those gay men that think differently clearly have a long way to go with feeling comfortable with themselves.
Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.
The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.
The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.
It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.
People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.
Liam-
22-01-2015, 02:26 PM
The baby is a surrogate baby,he should be removed, you cannot buy safety and security and this innocent child is being raised by a mentally disturbed freak
The baby is his biological son, he said so to Ken on the very first night.
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:29 PM
The baby is his biological son, he said so to Ken on the very first night.
Still a surrogate baby ,he bought him ,IMO as a Mother and Grandmother that poor baby is not safe being brought up by someone so clearly unstable
abhorson
22-01-2015, 02:31 PM
Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.
The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.
The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.
It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.
People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.
Well written.
Liam-
22-01-2015, 02:32 PM
Still a surrogate baby ,he bought him ,IMO as a Mother and Grandmother that poor baby is not safe being brought up by someone so clearly unstable
You can't 'buy' babies, that is illegal.. I'd imagine that he probably paid for the woman's health care during the pregnancy, but he is the child's biological father, you can't deem him to be a bad parent based on what you see on a TV show, where he is blatantly playing a character to try to be 'entertaining'
Why can't we just stick to discussing people as housemates rather then getting uber personal and bringing their parenting skills into question, jesus christ.
VanessaFeltz.
22-01-2015, 02:32 PM
Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.
The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.
The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.
It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.
People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.
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chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:34 PM
You can't 'buy' babies, that is illegal.. I'd imagine that he probably paid for the woman's health care during the pregnancy, but he is the child's biological father, you can't deem him to be a bad parent based on what you see on a TV show, where he is blatantly playing a character to try to be 'entertaining'
Why can't we just stick to discussing people as housemates rather then getting uber personal and bringing their parenting skills into question, jesus christ.
So theres no such thing as surrogate babies? Oh please love, you're looking silly now
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 02:34 PM
Still a surrogate baby ,he bought him ,IMO as a Mother and Grandmother that poor baby is not safe being brought up by someone so clearly unstable
Oh get a grip you have no idea how his personal life is so why don't you move on and actually discuss Perez in the house this is getting dull now.
The thread isn't about him being a good dad its about how the gay community perceive him and asking if we are offended by his behaviour.
Seriously talking about peoples children....Not on.
abhorson
22-01-2015, 02:35 PM
You can't 'buy' babies, that is illegal.. I'd imagine that he probably paid for the woman's health care during the pregnancy, but he is the child's biological father, you can't deem him to be a bad parent based on what you see on a TV show, where he is blatantly playing a character to try to be 'entertaining'
Why can't we just stick to discussing people as housemates rather then getting uber personal and bringing their parenting skills into question, jesus christ.
Surrogacy for payment is legal in the USA i believe. Money, money, money which is why there is so many agencies.
Liam-
22-01-2015, 02:36 PM
So theres no such thing as surrogate babies? Oh please love, you're looking silly now
When did i say there was no such thing as a surrogate baby? :suspect:
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:40 PM
Oh get a grip you have no idea how his personal life is so why don't you move on and actually discuss Perez in the house this is getting dull now.
The thread isn't about him being a good dad its about how the gay community perceive him and asking if we are offended by his behaviour.
Seriously talking about peoples children....Not on.
So I cannot comment on HIS ability or lack of it to bring a child up due to HIS mentally unstability .........Nothing to do with the poor child, I am commenting on HIM and HIS mental illness ... A good Dad would not do things like this
He was notorious for harsh comments about celebrity children, drawing on pictures of them and of course, trying to out gay stars.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2296980/Perez-Hiltons-baby-Mario-Were-thrilled-introduce-angel-son.html#ixzz3PZ4vCpyN
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chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:41 PM
When did i say there was no such thing as a surrogate baby? :suspect:
You said you cannot buy a baby, Ive pointed out a surrogate baby,is a bought baby
Benjamin
22-01-2015, 02:41 PM
The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.
This doesn't have anything to with Perez though. And all I am seeing in the gay community is the younger gays having a problem with Perez, not the older ones. And as I have said there are many types of homosexual men, including many who are just like Perez, if that happens to be the media stereotype then who cares, why should people like Perez change because other gays feel as if it makes them look bad; it should be those that feel like that who need to re-evaluate themselves and learn to accept who they are, their sexuality being just a fraction of it.
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:44 PM
He moved to New York City in 2013, stating, "I love New York and that is where me and my growing family want to call home right now".[108] Hilton was referring to his first child, Mario Armando Lavandeira III, born on February 16, 2013, conceived with a donor egg and carried by a surrogate mother.[109]
SURROGATE ,BOUGHT BABY
It does actually.
Does it heck as like.:nono:
Miranda123
22-01-2015, 02:45 PM
I don't get the outrage, what is he doing that is offended so many homosexuals?
Breathing?
abhorson
22-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Breathing?
Don't discriminate, i think that too:laugh:
Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.
The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.
The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.
It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.
People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.
I champion your conviction but still don't see perez throwing out these accusations left right and centre..with alex he has obviously looked into his background and seen that he can come across as homophobic so I guess when you couple that with his statements in the house then I think perez has every ri9ght to through out an accusation towards alexander, lets face it, it was alexanders own words, perez did not put them there for him.
I would be more upset (if I were gay) had perez not stood up to him..
abhorson
22-01-2015, 02:51 PM
I champion your conviction but still don't see perez throwing out these accusations left right and centre..with alex he has obviously looked into his background and seen that he can come across as homophobic so I guess when you couple that with his statements in the house then I think perez has every ri9ght to through out an accusation towards alexander, lets face it, it was alexanders own words, perez did not put them there for him.
I would be more upset (if I were gay) had perez not stood up to him..
And the one yesterday?
He was using it for sick ends. Trying to make an HM look like a bigot. Badly backfired this time though.
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 02:52 PM
So I cannot comment on HIS ability or lack of it to bring a child up due to HIS mentally unstability .........Nothing to do with the poor child, I am commenting on HIM and HIS mental illness ... A good Dad would not do things like this
He was notorious for harsh comments about celebrity children, drawing on pictures of them and of course, trying to out gay stars.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2296980/Perez-Hiltons-baby-Mario-Were-thrilled-introduce-angel-son.html#ixzz3PZ4vCpyN
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Well carry on but your making yourself look like an idiot for making such outrageous claims based on a 45 minutes a night tv show.
If you want to base someones parental skills on CBB then I guess to you CBB is the height of political and social debate.
And the one yesterday?
He was using it for sick ends. Trying to make an HM look like a bigot. Badly backfired this time though.
what one yesterday?
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 02:54 PM
Well carry on but your making yourself look like an idiot for making such outrageous claims based on a 45 minutes a night tv show.
If you want to base someones parental skills on CBB then I guess to you CBB is the height of political and social debate.
I base my ideas on what Ive seen ,and its the same as everyone else has seen, a very disturbed,mentally ill man
abhorson
22-01-2015, 02:55 PM
what one yesterday?
Ah. Watch tonights show and you will see. There are several threads on it below.
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 02:57 PM
I base my ideas on what Ive seen ,and its the same as everyone else has seen, a very disturbed,mentally ill man
If you find CBB a credible source for backing up your political views and a logical and credible way to judge someone on their parenting skills to the point you're so sure they are mentally unstable and unable to bring up a child and urge that child be taken off him then good for you :)
VanessaFeltz.
22-01-2015, 03:00 PM
Breathing?
:clap1::clap1:
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 03:01 PM
If you find CBB a credible source for backing up your political views and a logical and credible way to judge someone on their parenting skills to the point you're so sure they are mentally unstable and unable to bring up a child and urge that child be taken off him then good for you :)
Im beginning to think you're not even watching the show,or you would not be defending his mental state ,and I stick by my opinion that the child should be removed from his care
Ah. Watch tonights show and you will see. There are several threads on it below.
cant see anything, below. can you just tell me.
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 03:04 PM
This doesn't have anything to with Perez though. And all I am seeing in the gay community is the younger gays having a problem with Perez, not the older ones. And as I have said there are many types of homosexual men, including many who are just like Perez, if that happens to be the media stereotype then who cares, why should people like Perez change because other gays feel as if it makes them look bad; it should be those that feel like that who need to re-evaluate themselves and learn to accept who they are, their sexuality being just a fraction of it.
Stop ****ing accusing me of not accepting who I am its getting very annoying now.
I know exactly who I am and have this opinion.
I think you need to go do some research on the gay rights movements from back in the 80's and maybe take some lessons from Michelle Visage.
Just because I have respect for where our elders have brought us to today and the rights ive been given by them fighting for us it doesn't mean that that rules my life and I should live by some code it means I am very much me, an individual yet know to respect where I come from and when I see someone who is throwing the homophobia card about when its not needed then im gonna call them out on it.
Im not talking about his behaviour that's fine he can do what he wants im talking about him using straight people and victimising them which is in turn making us look like we can pull out the homophobia card anytime we want to get ahead.
People like him give gay people a bad reputation.
abhorson
22-01-2015, 03:08 PM
cant see anything, below. can you just tell me.
The debate task clip which is on the videos section will explain all.
daniel-lewis-1985
22-01-2015, 03:08 PM
Im beginning to think you're not even watching the show,or you would not be defending his mental state ,and I stick by my opinion that the child should be removed from his care
Well luckily you aren't a trained social worker and just a nobody on a forum whos slanderous words mean nothing outside of this thread.
Anyway I cant be arsed with this I have to go wash some melon smoothie of my top lip its been 2 hours.
The debate task clip which is on the videos section will explain all.
what the bullying part?..cause thats got nothing to do with this thread.
abhorson
22-01-2015, 03:11 PM
what the bullying part?..cause thats got nothing to do with this thread.
No the one where he accused yet another HM of being homophobic.
No the one where he accused yet another HM of being homophobic.
who this time..my vids thing don't work at my work.
abhorson
22-01-2015, 03:14 PM
who this time..my vids thing don't work at my work.
N%r is my keyb***d. And you should be working!
chuff me dizzy
22-01-2015, 03:21 PM
Well luckily you aren't a trained social worker and just a nobody on a forum whos slanderous words mean nothing outside of this thread.
Anyway I cant be arsed with this I have to go wash some melon smoothie of my top lip its been 2 hours.
You've got to wash some melon smoothie off your top lip ? :puzzled::unsure:
Im as much a nobody as yourself and everyone else on here
Marsh.
22-01-2015, 07:11 PM
N%r is my keyb***d. And you should be working!
:laugh:
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