Poor baby

[chuff me dizzy]

This freak has an innocent baby in its care http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-17-perez-gets-weird

[Pete.]

:laugh:

[Josy]

Very unfair to bring his child or parenting skills into imo for all you know he could be the most loving caring parent ever.

[-Sue-]

Very unfair to bring his child or parenting skills into imo for all you know he could be the most loving caring parent ever.
agreed 100%

[Denver]

That why children should be allowed to divorce from there parents :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is just showing off

[chuff me dizzy]

Very unfair to bring his child or parenting skills into imo for all you know he could be the most loving caring parent ever.

Hes seriously mentally ill how could he be safe around a baby? would he have been allowed to adopt ? NO so he bought a baby instead

[chuff me dizzy]

That why children should be allowed to divorce from there parents :joker:

Dead right

[GiRTh]

Very unfair to bring his child or parenting skills into imo for all you know he could be the most loving caring parent ever.
X2

[Withano]

Very unfair to bring his child or parenting skills into imo for all you know he could be the most loving caring parent ever.

lets be serious though

[Pincho Paxton]

Looks like KH finally got a hold of his water bottle! :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

lets be serious though

Pervez would not be allowed to adopt, thats a fact,he wouldnt be mentally stable enough

[-Sue-]

IMO we can only judge what we watch on the show - (and the odd news snippet elsewhere) but assuming someone is a bad parent because you don't like their actions on a tv show..the mind boggles how anyone can even think like that *sigh*

[chuff me dizzy]

IMO we can only judge what we watch on the show - (and the odd news snippet elsewhere) but assuming someone is a bad parent because you don't like their actions on a tv show..the mind boggles how anyone can even think like that *sigh*

I said he's mentally unstable, and I stand by that

[-Sue-]

*rocks back n forth* im not sane either (and it gets me a seat to myself on the bus):joker:

Sanity is overrated... fun over hate anyday :D

[Benjamin]

Chuf normally I have no issue with what you say, but that is a low blow even for you. We have no idea what he is like as a dad and a few of them in there have kids and are just as "unstable". We get you hate him, but you have no clue as to what he is like with his children.

[-Sue-]

Chuf normally I have no issue with what you say, but that is a low blow even for you. We have no idea what he is like as a dad and a few of them in there have kids and are just as "unstable". We get you hate him, but you have no clue as to what he is like with his children.

:clap1:

[ebandit]

seriously? chuff....................baby will have a kid brother to play with

Mark L

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hes seriously mentally ill how could he be safe around a baby? would he have been allowed to adopt ? NO so he bought a baby instead

Here we go again.

Can you not just shut up with this crap now?

You're posting the exact same comments as you have been for days now.

Are you not tired of trolling his kid?

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuf normally I have no issue with what you say, but that is a low blow even for you. We have no idea what he is like as a dad and a few of them in there have kids and are just as "unstable". We get you hate him, but you have no clue as to what he is like with his children.

Do you think by what you've seen of him in the house and his freaky antics he is fit to raise a a baby? do you think he would be allowed to adopt ?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

IMO we can only judge what we watch on the show - (and the odd news snippet elsewhere) but assuming someone is a bad parent because you don't like their actions on a tv show..the mind boggles how anyone can even think like that *sigh*

Literally its the dumbest thing a person can do.

Its quite disturbing how overly invested they become in the show to the point they take it out of the house and start talking about having children being taken away from the housemates.

Its only a game.

Enjoy hes just playing up to the cameras.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Chuf normally I have no issue with what you say, but that is a low blow even for you. We have no idea what he is like as a dad and a few of them in there have kids and are just as "unstable". We get you hate him, but you have no clue as to what he is like with his children.

Great post.

[Benjamin]

Do you think by what you've seen of him in the house and his freaky antics he is fit to raise a a baby? do you think he would be allowed to adopt ?

How he is with his kid and how he acts up for the cameras are two very different things. He's playing the game the way he wants to, that has no bearing on how he brings up his child or what he is like with that child. For you to accuse him of being an unfit father is not only ridiculous but also not based on any facts.

[chuff me dizzy]

How he is with his kid and how he acts up for the cameras are two very different things. He's playing the game they way he wants to, that has no bearing on how he brings up his child or what he is like with that child.

An adoption agency would not look at it your way

[Denver]

How he is with his kid and how he acts up for the cameras are two very different things. He's playing the game they way he wants to, that has no bearing on how he brings up his child or what he is like with that child.

However that Pratez in the house is the same Pratez in the outside world

[-Sue-]

Literally its the dumbest thing a person can do.

Its quite disturbing how overly invested they become in the show to the point they take it out of the house and start talking about having children being taken away from the housemates.

Its only a game.

Enjoy hes just playing up to the cameras.

Exactly :D when I read this thread I wasn't sure if I should reply to be honest (lets just say I rewrote my 1st response a few times before posting

Perez is having fun Katie is having fun.. on behalf of Patsy PARP! *propels herself out of thread* wanders off in search of wine...and firemen :cheer2:

[Benjamin]

An adoption agency would not look at it your way

Chuff an adoption agency wouldn't look at me or others, including couples, heterosexuals etc the same way. Half the world out there has kids by biological means that really shouldn't, but you have no basis on what he is like as a father and he has not adopted, so I have no idea why this is being brought to the table.

[Benjamin]

However that Pratez in the house is the same Pratez in the outside world

To his kid? Yes, please show me an example of this Adamski, I would be interested to see it.

[-Sue-]

An adoption agency would not look at it your way

I am lost for words ..:nono:

[Denver]

To his kid? Yes, please show me an example of this Adamski, I would be interested to see it.

Chances are he is not a safe man to be around infact he should be doing time in prison

[-Sue-]

Chuff an adoption agency wouldn't look at me or others, including couples, heterosexuals etc the same way. Half the world out there has kids by biological means that really shouldn't, but you have no basis on what he is like as a father and he has not adopted, so I have no idea why this is being brought to the table.

OOOh Ben I like you :D well said :D

[Benjamin]

Chances are he is not a safe man to be around infact he should be doing time in prison

So that's a big no then, you cannot show me evidence and makes your point, well completely pointless. Thank you. :clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuff an adoption agency wouldn't look at me or others, including couples, heterosexuals etc the same way. Half the world out there has kids by biological means that really shouldn't, but you have no basis on what he is like as a father and he has not adopted, so I have no idea why this is being brought to the table.

But the baby is a surrogate baby, he bought him

[Benjamin]

OOOh Ben I like you :D well said :D

Why thank you :hugesmile:

[chuff me dizzy]

Chances are he is not a safe man to be around infact he should be doing time in prison

An asylum surrounded by padded walls wearing a tight white heavy cotton jacket

[Pincho Paxton]

I feel sorry for his poor millionaire baby... :bawling:

[-Sue-]

But the baby is a surrogate baby, he bought him

proof the baby was bought?

Chances are paid for expenses (medical) of surrogate right.. whole other ballgame..:shrug:

but anyway ..are you having a good night chuff? :)

[-Sue-]

Why thank you :hugesmile:

hehe most welcome always nice to find a level headed fun filled person on here :D

[Benjamin]

But the baby is a surrogate baby, he bought him

Surrogate or not, it is still his biological child no matter how you argue it. You have no basis to know that he is a bad father. What he is like off camera and away from media with his child is anybody's guess.

[Denver]

So that's a big no then, you cannot show me evidence and makes your point, well completely pointless. Thank you. :clap1:

So a man who happily post naked pictures of underage girls is a great dad?

[chuff me dizzy]

proof the baby was bought?

Chances are paid for expenses (medical) of surrogate right.. whole other ballgame..:shrug:

but anyway ..are you having a good night chuff? :)
I posted the link to the surrogacy the others day ,Im having a wonderful night, can't wait for the eviction !!!

[Benjamin]

So a man who happily post naked pictures of underage girls is a great dad?

Again, do you have evidence to support this?

[chuff me dizzy]

So a man who happily post naked pictures of underage girls is a great dad?

:clap1: and strips to his underpants rubbing himself up to a window on national Tv screaming how many times he's come is also great Dad material

[Denver]

Again, do you have evidence to support this?

Yes as it was Miley cyrus

[GiRTh]

:clap1: and strips to his underpants rubbing himself up to a window on national Tv screaming how many times he's come is also great Dad materialI forgot how funny y that was thanks for reminding me. :laugh2:

[Benjamin]

Yes as it was Miley cyrus

She wasn't underage. :joker:

He would have been arrested if she had been.

[Denver]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1286887/Perez-Hilton-posting-explicit-Miley-Cyrus-photo.html

proof of him taking pictures of minors

[Denver]

She wasn't underage. :joker:

He would have been arrested if she had been.

In the USA if your under 18 your seen as a minor

[chuff me dizzy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1286887/Perez-Hilton-posting-explicit-Miley-Cyrus-photo.html

proof of him taking pictures of minors

I bet his right arm ached after that ,dirty pervert

[Benjamin]

I bet his right arm ached after that ,dirty pervert

Erm, no Chuff, wrong tree

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1286887/Perez-Hilton-posting-explicit-Miley-Cyrus-photo.html

proof of him taking pictures of minors

Nothing came of that, stop clutching at straws :laugh:

[-Sue-]

I bet his right arm ached after that ,dirty pervert
paparazzi do that too.. shall we get mad at them now?:shrug:

[Denver]

Nothing came of that, stop clutching at straws :laugh:

May i had his stalking of people or all of his court cases or wishing death on people? I dont think thats being a great role model

[chuff me dizzy]

May i had his stalking of people or all of his court cases or wishing death on people? I dont think thats being a great role model

His antics in the house knowing cameras are on him must question his mental state

[Benjamin]

May i had his stalking of people or all of his court cases or wishing death on people? I dont think thats being a great role model

Oh please, half of them in there are not great role models. My point still stands you have no idea what he is like with his kid and until you can prove what he is like with them then your points remain invalid.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Chances are he is not a safe man to be around infact he should be doing time in prison

le me get this straight.

You think he should have his child taken off him and he should be in prison?

And you have come to these decisions based on watching a television programme?

Seems you need a reality check or maybe a break from the tv for a while as the real world and television seemed to have merged into the same thing for you.

Am I going insane here?

[-Sue-]

Oh please, half of them in there are not great role models. My point still stands you have no idea what he is like with his kid and until you can prove what he is like with them then your points remain invalid.
:clap1: exactly

[Denver]

le me get this straight.

You think he should have his child taken off him and he should be in prison?

And you have come to these decisions based on watching a television programme?

Seems you need a reality check or maybe a break from the tv for a while as the real world and television seemed to have merged into the same thing for you.

Am I going insane here?

No he should be in prison for what he has done it real life

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No he should be in prison for what he has done it real life

And what is that exactly? Real life to you is what you read in the papers and see on tv as you do not know the guy. The whole Miley Cyrus thing? She was hardly a 12 year old kid was she.

Lets also put the people at Rolling Stone Magazine in prison for making Britney pose in her underwear whilst clutching a tellytubby when she was 17 years old.

Keep clutching.

[Kazanne]

In the USA if your under 18 your seen as a minor

Those comments underneath the article are very telling.:hehe:

[Denver]

And what is that exactly? Real life to you is what you read in the papers and see on tv as you do not know the guy. The whole Miley Cyrus thing? She was hardly a 12 year old kid was she.

Lets also put the people at Rolling Stone Magazine in prison for making Britney pose in her underwear whilst clutching a tellytubby when she was 17 years old.

Keep clutching.

Maybe check his back history he is a disguisting vile human being

[Dollface]

Oh please, half of them in there are not great role models. My point still stands you have no idea what he is like with his kid and until you can prove what he is like with them then your points remain invalid.

Opinions are opinions

[Vanessa]

Wow, i'm lost for words. Just when I think things can't sink any lower they so. Perez Hilton the public persona and the private one are not the same thing. Behind 4 walls he's just a dad, just like many.

[Jack_]

Why do the families and children of contestants on a reality gameshow get dragged into unnecessary, baseless and in fact quite nasty discussions every series? I agree with Daniel, some people really do take this show way too seriously.

I could quite easily sit here and say that Katie Hopkins is less fit to be a mother than Perez is to be a father since she'll indoctrinate her children with her ignorant, insulting and prejudiced opinions as well as likely making them a target for bullies with everything that she says, but I won't because I don't see into her private life and that's not a judgement for anyone but her children themselves to make. I'm sure most people wouldn't like their parents to be criticised by people they don't know like this, just because you don't like someone on a 48 minute television show that doesn't give you the right to slate someone's 24/7 real life parenting skills.

[sampvt]

If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

[-Sue-]

Wow, i'm lost for words. Just when I think things can't sink any lower they so. Perez Hilton the public persona and the private one are not the same thing. Behind 4 walls he's just a dad, just like many.

evening (welcome to the madhouse) :laugh: and well said :clap1:

[Benjamin]

Opinions are opinions

Not disagreeing with that but when people state for a fact that he is an awful father when they have no idea is a very different thing. I'm still yet to see any of you prove this. But I guess that is too much to ask. ;)

[Benjamin]

Why do the families and children of contestants on a reality gameshow get dragged into unnecessary, baseless and in fact quite nasty discussions every series? I agree with Daniel, some people really do take this show way too seriously.

I could quite easily sit here and say that Katie Hopkins is less fit to be a mother than Perez is to be a father since she'll indoctrinate her children with her ignorant, insulting and prejudiced opinions as well as likely making them a target for bullies with everything that she says, but I won't because I don't see into her private life and that's not a judgement for anyone but her children themselves to make. I'm sure most people wouldn't like their parents to be criticised by people they don't know like this, just because you don't like someone on a 48 minute television show that doesn't give you the right to slate someone's 24/7 real life parenting skills.


Jack, yet again speaking sense.

[-Sue-]

If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

so being in a rented home doesn't make you a good father?
ahh you read it on the internet must be true :joker: silly me

[-Sue-]

Why do the families and children of contestants on a reality gameshow get dragged into unnecessary, baseless and in fact quite nasty discussions every series? I agree with Daniel, some people really do take this show way too seriously.

I could quite easily sit here and say that Katie Hopkins is less fit to be a mother than Perez is to be a father since she'll indoctrinate her children with her ignorant, insulting and prejudiced opinions as well as likely making them a target for bullies with everything that she says, but I won't because I don't see into her private life and that's not a judgement for anyone but her children themselves to make. I'm sure most people wouldn't like their parents to be criticised by people they don't know like this, just because you don't like someone on a 48 minute television show that doesn't give you the right to slate someone's 24/7 real life parenting skills.
Thank you Jack great post well put :D :clap1:

[Dollface]

Not disagreeing with that but when people state for a fact that he is an awful father when they have no idea is a very different thing. I'm still yet to see any of you prove this. But I guess that is too much to ask. ;)

It's not a different thing, it's still someones opinion. I haven't said anything about Perez's parenting skills because i don't know what I think about that yet so i wont be providing proof, but nobodies opinion can be "invalid" - proof or no proof.

[Denver]

so being in a rented home doesn't make you a good father?
ahh you read it on the internet must be true :joker: silly me

So we are wrong and your right yet you dont know anything about him so how can everyone say he is a great father

[sampvt]

Not disagreeing with that but when people state for a fact that he is an awful father when they have no idea is a very different thing. I'm still yet to see any of you prove this. But I guess that is too much to ask. ;)

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

[Pincho Paxton]

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

He loved his kids....

...that was the problem.

[Benjamin]

It's not a different thing, it's still someones opinion. I haven't said anything about Perez's parenting skills because i don't know what I think about that yet so i wont be providing proof, but nobodies opinion can be "invalid" - proof or no proof.

When they say he is a bad father based solely for his actions in the house then yes, that makes the point invalid as that has no reflection on what he is like with his kid.

[-Sue-]

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm
:sleep: wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off topic!

and even you would admit uncalled for...

[Benjamin]

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

Wow, you lot really are clutching at straws now :joker:

[Denver]

When they say he is a bad father based solely for his actions in the house then yes, that makes the point invalid as that has no reflection on what he is like with his kid.

All my points were of his outside behaviour

[sampvt]

so being in a rented home doesn't make you a good father?
ahh you read it on the internet must be true :joker: silly me

Excuse me but where in my post do I state that he isn't a good father. You are letting your prejudices ruin your pattern of thought. I merely stated he was bi polar and such an ailment isn't regarded as a stable footing for adoption in our country, please show me where I made reference to his parenting skills please.

[Denver]

Wow, you lot really are clutching at straws now :joker:

Pot kettle with the Perez being bullied BS :joker::smug:

[Benjamin]

So we are wrong and your right yet you dont know anything about him so how can everyone say he is a great father

The thing is, none of us said he is a great father. But it is you lot stating he is a bad father. None of us know what he is like with his kid, this is our point, you have no idea what he is like but basing it on his actions on the CBB house is ridiculous.

[Benjamin]

Pot kettle with the Perez being bullied BS :joker::smug:

I never said Perez is being bullied :suspect:

[Denver]

The thing is, none of us said he is a great father. But it is you lot stating he is a bad father. None of us know what he is like with his kid, this is our point, you have no idea what he is like but basing it on his actions on the CBB house is ridiculous.

I said he is a bad role model

[sampvt]

Wow, you lot really are clutching at straws now :joker:

Everyone else is, that's what makes it so sad. way too many bar room doctors and lawyers on here. Facts in evidence is clear, he makes a living from acting like a dipstick and has mental issues so is up to the authorities in his area to determine if he is a fit parent, not us. But based on what we see, opinions are rife in favour of the op's post.

[Denver]

I never said Perez is being bullied :suspect:

Im not talking about you in general at the end of the day whether you like it or not everyone has a right to a opinion and they can never be wrong

[Vanessa]

I've seen pictures of Perez with his son and it's heart warming. :lovedup:

[-Sue-]

Excuse me but where in my post do I state that he isn't a good father. You are letting your prejudices ruin your pattern of thought. I merely stated he was bi polar and such an ailment isn't regarded as a stable footing for adoption in our country, please show me where I made reference to his parenting skills please.

Please don't tell me how to think you post it I reply (that's how it works) be rude of me not to reply.. you merely stated things we HAVE NOT SEEN in the house nor have you posted evidence that proves otherwise..you compared him to Fred West it's like wow!!!

I know you dislike him (and that is your choice) your choice of words tells me more..

..wanders off to clean oven...:shrug:

[Benjamin]

I said he is a bad role model

That was not just directed at you by the way, it was more those saying he was a bad father. None of us know what he is like as a dad, and I don't know why his parenthood is being questioned. It has no reflection on him in CBB.

[AnnieK]

If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

You actually can adopt if you are biplolar...you have be being treated by a doctor but as bipolar is a very manageable condition is does not preclude you from adopting on its own. Each potential adopter is judged by social workers on lots of factors, medical, emotional, financial, family history, age etc etc etc....

[-Sue-]

I was raised in poverty and my parents were very loving. money has nothing to do with being fit to be a dad.

but yet you judged him by little one being raised in a rented home? I don't get that ...

far as I'm aware babies kids teens of HMs are not targets for our assassination!

[GiRTh]

I was raised in poverty and my parents were very loving. money has nothing to do with being fit to be a dad.I bet Perez kids have a great quality of life. HE has all the resources to provide wonderfully for his kid. No one has the right to bring them into this appearance on a TV show.

[Denver]

YEs. If you insist on bringing his family into this and judge his parenting skill by that then you all need to take a look at how you bring up your own kids,

You do realise personal attacks on forum members is not allowed

[sampvt]

but yet you judged him by little one being raised in a rented home? I don't get that ...

far as I'm aware babies kids teens of HMs are not targets for our assassination!

Sue if you are going to slag off fellow posters, please at least read their posts. Where did I say that rented property was in some way wrong. I didn't so please don't try to dis me with your own twisted facts, that's neither clever nor worth a read.

[-Sue-]

Sue if you are going to slag off fellow posters, please at least read their posts. Where did I say that rented property was in some way wrong. I didn't so please don't try to dis me with your own twisted facts, that's neither clever nor worth a read.

I haven't slagged anyone off! :shrug:

I simply responded to this post of yours
Originally Posted by sampvt
If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

[Benjamin]

You say that as if i have. Feel free to look back through the thread.
You just judged other forum members parenting skills, which quite frankly is laughable! I think people would have more of an idea of someones parenting skills after seeing them on a TV show than someone who's anonymously typing on a computer.

Nobody who watches the show has an understanding of Perez as a father, as we have not seen that side to him. :joker:

[MTVN]

Ok lets stop the talk about other members in here

[Dollface]

And I wll take my punishment without comment. You all look at yourselves before you judge others and the quality of your lives before you make comments about a contestant on reality shows parenting skills

How do you know everyone here hasn't already looked at the quality of their own life before posting?
Maybe.. just maybe.. we all have good quality lives, that for some reason you seem to be trying to say otherwise AS IF you know us.
We're talking about a guy that's put himself on TV, so you're the one stooping low by getting personal about forum members. :nono:

[GiRTh]

Ok lets stop the talk about other members in hereWhy not stop the talk about BB HM;s children first.

[AnnieK]

The low stooping to begin with is people bringing someone's child up.....leave the child out of it. There is enough to talk about Perez without bringing his innocent child into it

[Dollface]

Why not stop the talk about BB HM;s children

Omg some people are so stupid.
THIS IS A FORUM ABOUT BB of course we're allowed to discuss the housemates lives (and some of their lives include children)

[Denver]

The low stooping to begin with is people bringing someone's child up.....leave the child out of it. There is enough to talk about Perez without bringing his innocent child into it

Yet since Katie P entered ive seen numerous posts of her being a terrible mum so why is that allowed but this isnt

[MTVN]

Why not stop the talk about BB HM;s children first.

Well it might be unpleasant but its not against the rules

But anyway I have to go out now and I'm not sure this thread will ever be anything other than a train wreck so I'm going to lock it