“You're Latino, not White.”

[Mystic Mock]

She said this to Cami on Live Feed.

I'm afraid for you Michelle that Scientifically Latino people are in fact white, it's just the blistering heat in the Latino countries tan their skin and makes them look darker.

Seriously this woman is so determined to come off as a Liberal that she in fact comes off as the complete opposite.

[Denver]

Leave the Queen alone

[Mystic Mock]

Leave the Queen alone

I haven't said anything about Elizabeth.

[Jason.]

I haven't said anything about Elizabeth.

:joker:

[sampvt]

Ive lived in mexico for 6 years and if you call any latino / Hispanic person white they will correct you. Whites are Americans or caucasians

[Mystic Mock]

Ive lived in mexico for 6 years and if you call any latino / Hispanic person white they will correct you. Whites are Americans or caucasians

And Scientifically them people that you're on about would be wrong.

[sampvt]

And Scientifically them people that you're on about would be wrong.

Sorry to disagree but I live in the real world with real views and books or politically correct sh.t isn't really all that interesting when faced with real scenarios.

[emmetmcl]

People really do TRY and be offended these days, dont they.

[rionablue]

Im sure Cami didn't take any offence. She and Michelle are friends.

[sampvt]

The reason why she wasn't upset was because she knew Michele was right so it died there, no dramas. Cami wants to be regarded as a white chick maybe, but Michele reminded her of her roots and that was enough to shut her down, end of.

[joeysteele]

I haven't said anything about Elizabeth.

:joker: Quick and good response Mock.:joker:

I actually haven't any time for Michelle now,she has gone right down in my estimation of her.

[Udanax]

loool. i don't really care much for michelle any more but this thread is definitely reaching.

[Mystic Mock]

loool. i don't really care much for michelle any more but this thread is definitely reaching.

How is it reaching? Michelle thought she was clever there but got her facts completely wrong.

Latino is more of a cultural heritage than a racial heritage.

[Northern Monkey]

:joker: Quick and good response Mock.:joker:

I actually haven't any time for Michelle now,she has gone right down in my estimation of her.Me too.She has a slight obnoxious quality about her.

[Jules2]

Is it really important I ask myself? Michelle is brilliant and they were having a friendly conversation, If she is wrong then she is wrong, if she is correct then hey ho! What does it really matter, noone was hurt.....

[Daniel-X]

Michelle tries to hard I think to create this character who's all for rights but then she hangs around with Hopkins...

[T*]

dear christ @ this thread topic
petty much?

[Mystic Mock]

Michelle tries to hard I think to create this character who's all for rights but then she hangs around with Hopkins...

And agrees with some of Hopkins far right wing opinions.

[Stevep]

Sorry to disagree but I live in the real world with real views and books or politically correct sh.t isn't really all that interesting when faced with real scenarios.

Do books not contain 'real views' in them?

[sampvt]

life changes but books cant keep up.

[Dollface]

Why did Michelle say that? Like what was they talking about when she said it?
*doesn't watch live feed*

[Spoon]

"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

[Pink Pegasus]

Why did Michelle say that? Like what was they talking about when she said it?
*doesn't watch live feed*

Cami was showing them all some dance moves. I'm not sure where she was saying she used to do the dance moves but she said she was "the only white girl there" or something along those lines.
Michelle interrupted and said, "except you're not white, you're Latino"

Cami seemed to agree with her and continued her story.

Hopkins seemed to find what Michelle said amusing and mimicked her saying "except you're not white"

The conversation about dance moves then continued.

[Deebo]

Whites are Americans or caucasians

... Or "gringos"

[Pincho Paxton]

Science is about observation. Observe...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cami+li&espv=2&biw=1137&bih=758&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NVbDVMPHLYG_UL2sgPAD&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&dpr=0.9

[Jack The Cat]

"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

And Perez Hilton. :laugh:

[lostalex]

In America latinos call themselves "brown". It is interesting that Cami called herself white, even though she has stressed her latin heritage a lot on the show. there are many white americans in Puerto Rico (because it is a US territory), so maybe her parents are both white, but because she was born in puerto rico she considers herself latin. but racially, i would assume she was a white chick if i just saw her walking down the street.

[SoBig]

Latino is not a race. Its a linguistic group. There are latinos who are white, mestizo, asian, native, black. You name it and its right there in Latin America.

Vladimir Guerrero
http://i.imgur.com/OpXBdjR.jpg

Alexis Bledel
http://i.imgur.com/RLy84U2.jpg

They are both Latino. Alexis is obviously white and Vladimir is obviously black.

[SoBig]

Perez Hilton is Cuban and you would have to be pretty foolish to say he is not white. :laugh:

[SoBig]

In America latinos call themselves "brown". It is interesting that Cami called herself white, even though she has stressed her latin heritage a lot on the show. there are many white americans in Puerto Rico (because it is a US territory), so maybe her parents are both white, but because she was born in puerto rico she considers herself latin. but racially, i would assume she was a white chick if i just saw her walking down the street.
Cami Li isn't Cuban?

Thought she said she was on opening night.

Ethnic groups in Cuba

64.1% White
26.6% Mulatto / Mestizo
9.3% Black
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cuba

[Lister of Smeg]

Latino Americans arent really a singular group despite what most would have you believe.
There demographic is broken down into verious categories like White Latinos Black Latinos or Latino other meaning descendents of the indigenous peoples of South America . Cami is definitely white Latino she has a Mediterranean look to her.

[waterhog]

i disbelieve this - there is no live feed.

[Amy Jade]

The person the comment was directed towards wasn't offended in the least but people still feel the need to complain about it, makes me sad really. Some are so easily offended.

[Creggle]

The person the comment was directed towards wasn't offended in the least but people still feel the need to complain about it, makes me sad really. Some are so easily offended.

You're quickly becoming one of my favorite posters this season :worship:

[MargeryFan]

White people are not white, black people are not black - it's all words we use to put people in neat little boxes. If these boxes are to be upheld, then cami li is not white, she is brown or 'latino', the same way obama is 'black'. Get over it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She looks like a Pikie is alls i know

[smudgie]

If Cami refers to herself as white then so be it, surely it is up to her:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If Cami refers to herself as white then so be it, surely it is up to her:shrug:

well if Keith says he is black where are you then?

[smudgie]

well if Keith says he is black where are you then?

Hardly likely though is it.

Cami is aware of her heritage more than anyone else, therefore she knows best in her situation.

[Kizzy]

She said this to Cami on Live Feed.

I'm afraid for you Michelle that Scientifically Latino people are in fact white, it's just the blistering heat in the Latino countries tan their skin and makes them look darker.

Seriously this woman is so determined to come off as a Liberal that she in fact comes off as the complete opposite.

That's not true, if they lived here they would still be olive skinned.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

And Scientifically them people that you're on about would be wrong.

Another example of people getting offended on a whole other communities behalf.

Michelle was right she is latino.

Cami Li wasn't offended so why are you? Why do you see it as an insult for someone to be called latino over white anyway? Is white the better shade and therefor an insult to be called anything but?

[SoBig]

Another example of people getting offended on a whole other communities behalf.

Michelle was right she is latino.

Cami Li wasn't offended so why are you? Why do you see it as an insult for someone to be called latino over white anyway? Is white the better shade and therefor an insult to be called anything but?
Michelle is right that Cami is latino, but her being latino doesn't mean that she isn't white. Latino isn't a race. Its like saying Katie Hopkins is British, not white. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[Kizzy]

http://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201393/rs_500x235-131003123655-Sx7UO.gif

[Jules2]

"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

Good one Spoon, I totally agree. It hadnt even crossed my mind to think that the lass was any different than a CBB contestant. At the same time a friendly conversation is just that and obvious facts are debated. Just the art of living
and understanding one another, I guess this is where we learn from each other.

[Crimson Dynamo]

we need to know which race someone isa else how can we hate on the bad ones?

[fitz2k2]

surprise michelle didn't get called up in the diary room or wait if alexander said that u know what happens

[sampvt]

I venture to suggest that some people need to travel to the depths of these countries with their pc ethnic minority book of phrases in hand and see how it pans out. I lived in Mexico and also cuba and if you called a Mexican or Cuban brown, you might be eating your dinner through a straw. lol.

Westerners perceptions of right and wrong are different in the real world. I remember once calling my gardener in Mexico Hispanic and he didn't talk to me for days, he explained that Hispanic was an American word to describe a mexicano. asked if he was regarded as black (he was really dark Mayan) and he said no, blacks are Africans, so they don't even work on PC levels.

[Ninastar]

Whatever she is, she has the most amazing skin tone ever...

Also if Cami wasn't upset by this, why is it such big deal?

[Jack_]

"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

Is the correct answer :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pixie Lotts boyfriend is a Vulcan so what race does he fit in with?

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.pinucci.com/wenn/wenn3534977_46_2228_4.jpg

live long and prosper

[Pincho Paxton]

http://www.pinucci.com/wenn/wenn3534977_46_2228_4.jpg

live long and prosper

Now I know what they mean by Jarhead. :joker:

[JoshBB]

I don't think you realise how skin tone works. Black people are black because of the heat in their country, same where we're white because it's colder.

[sampvt]

I don't think you realise how skin tone works. Black people are black because of the heat in their country, same where we're white because it's colder.

Yeah, the sun defo shines in the inuit and eskimo lands eh.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Michelle is right that Cami is latino, but her being latino doesn't mean that she isn't white. Latino isn't a race. Its like saying Katie Hopkins is British, not white. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Actually yeah i do kind of agree with you on that first part so i stand corrected but i do stand by my comment regarding this being another example of someone getting offended on behalf of an entire community they don't even belong to.

If we keep getting offended or in most cases acting offended because we think we should be and if we don't then we are bad people then this worlds going to be a very beige place.

[camertone]

latin people are french, italian and spanish etc. and they are white. hispanic people divided into white and black (mix native american indian, white, black and island countries). cami is cuban. she is considered a white hispanic.

[Mystic Mock]

Pixie Lotts boyfriend is a Vulcan so what race does he fit in with?

The Lucky Ones? After all getting girls like Pixie mustn't be easy.

[Miranda123]

Michelle tries to hard I think to create this character who's all for rights but then she hangs around with Hopkins...

you talk about rights as if YOU believe in them

but you dont BELIEVE in KH's right to say what she thinks

so I figure you are only FOR it, when people are saying what YOU want to hear

take a look at Nadia, stifling debate at every opportunity and ask yourself if that is the way we should all be living, my guess is youd like that

[Mystic Mock]

KH can say all she likes, but people have the right to disagree with her as well without being told that we're “PC gone mad” and you're “stifling debate” when no it's people like KH that do that as they don't like being called out on their views.

[lostalex]

Cami Li isn't Cuban?

Thought she said she was on opening night.

Ethnic groups in Cuba

64.1% White
26.6% Mulatto / Mestizo
9.3% Black
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cuba

oh she's Cuban? i don't know why i thought she was puerto rican.