Katie v Perez, who's the bigger bully?

[Withano]

Katie vs Perez

Perez and his passive aggressive behaviour in the house, being famed for singling out and shaming celebrities

Katie and her honesty policy in the house, being famed for her constant controversy and loud opinions

[Jason.]

Neither of them.

[Kazanne]

none of them are 'bullies'

[Withano]

none of them are 'bullies'

right, but that's not what the question asked. Who's more of a bully?

[Josy]

Inside the house lets see..

Katie:

Tried convincing other housemates to isolate someone.
Followed the same hm around the house constantly telling them they were, vile, disgusting, worthless.
Told a housemate to their face they were 'thick' 'stupid' 'weirdo'
Attacked housemates for their personal appearance.
Told Perez on repeat he had a tiny penis.
Used her column to try influence eviction votes and views about hm's she dislikes
Used the same column to bitch about fellow housemates that she gets on fine with in the house.

Perez.

Taunted Alexander until he left.
Danced naked and thrust himself against the bedroom window.
Sticks his tongue out when people are roaring insults at him.
Attention Seeks.
Stuck cheese up his hooter.

I may have forgotten some things for both up there^^

I dislike them both but I know who is worse in the house and Katie Hopkins is more of a bully

[jet]

Inside the house lets see..

Katie:

Tried convincing other housemates to isolate someone.
Followed the same hm around the house constantly telling them they were, vile, disgusting, worthless.
Told a housemate to their face they were 'thick' 'stupid' 'weirdo'
Attacked housemates for their personal appearance.
Told Perez on repeat he had a tiny penis.
Used her column to try influence eviction votes and views about hm's she dislikes
Used the same column to bitch about fellow housemates that she gets on fine with in the house.

Perez.

Taunted Alexander until he left.
Danced naked and thrust himself against the bedroom window.
Sticks his tongue out when people are roaring insults at him.
Attention Seeks.
Stuck cheese up his hooter.

I may have forgotten some things for both up there^^

I dislike them both but I know who is worse in the house and Katie Hopkins is more of a bully

I'm just popping in to read now and then this season but I can't resist logging in to applaud the most 'spot on' posts that show the common sense that is sometimes in short supply.
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[Tom4784]

Easily Perez, He's made a career out of it.

[MB.]

Easily Perez, He's made a career out of it.

...and what has Katie done?

[Tom4784]

...and what has Katie done?

Being venomous is different to being a bully. Katie Hopkins says **** for attention, Perez actively hounds and bullies people to the point they've taken restraining orders against him. He has made his career from bullying people. It's foolish to think that he isn't the biggest bully in the house when he wouldn't even be famous if he wasn't.

[LukeB]

None

[Kizzy]

Perez, he studied the rule book to see just how far he can push.

[abhorson]

Being venomous is different to being a bully. Katie Hopkins says **** for attention, Perez actively hounds and bullies people to the point they've taken restraining orders against him. He has made his career from bullying people. It's foolish to think that he isn't the biggest bully in the house when he wouldn't even be famous if he wasn't.

Exactly this :clap1::clap1:

[abhorson]

Perez, he studied the rule book to see just how far he can push.

Sums him up perfectly.:clap1:

[abhorson]

In the house, Perez has used the homophobic card three times and the race card once to try to belittle for his sick gameplan and the only real attempt at bullying has come from him against Alex.

KH's support has mainly come about because she is giving the sicko some of his own medicine back.

[wendywillow]

based on their behavior in the house....KH I easily the bigger bully.
(I don't really care what either did before they got in there)

[Crimson Dynamo]

perez

katie is not a bully she is caring

[Razor]

Katie by a country mile. Perez is just an idiot.

[bots]

Katie by a country mile. Perez is just an idiot.

Perez is a nasty, dangerous idiot. Has KH stalked anyone? she limits her attacks to words, Perez does not.

[the truth]

Hopkins is 1000000 times a bigger bully....shes threatened him umpteens times, stalking him for hours day after day with endless vile verbal abuse insults and threats including poisoning his drinks, smashing stuff over his head, shes smashed up property, even in the debate her comeback was im going to throw this drink over you. she vile nasty dangerous person. she demands everything is black and way and is too dumb and ignorant to see any shades of gray. hes infinitely smarter than her. hes also way more entertaining.

[abhorson]

Hopkins is 1000000 times a bigger bully....shes threatened him umpteens times, stalking him for hours day after day with endless vile verbal abuse insults and threats including poisoning his drinks, smashing stuff over his head, shes smashed up property, even in the debate her comeback was im going to throw this drink over you. she vile nasty dangerous person. she demands everything is black and way and is too dumb and ignorant to see any shades of gray. hes infinitely smarter than her. hes also way more entertaining.


Not that i agree with much here. Well, only the full stop at the end in fact. But if i were too take what you have written to have some 'truth' to it.

It would be one case where i would condone it.

[Withano]

Hopkins is 1000000 times a bigger bully....shes threatened him umpteens times, stalking him for hours day after day with endless vile verbal abuse insults and threats including poisoning his drinks, smashing stuff over his head, shes smashed up property, even in the debate her comeback was im going to throw this drink over you. she vile nasty dangerous person. she demands everything is black and way and is too dumb and ignorant to see any shades of gray. hes infinitely smarter than her. hes also way more entertaining.

Posts like this were the exact reason I made this poll. hahaha. I love that I know you're being serious.

[the truth]

Posts like this were the exact reason I made this poll. hahaha. I love that I know you're being serious.

the anti perez brigade realise hes doen nothing harmful in there really, so they drag in his outside job which is what joan rivers used to do and ricky gervais does, takes the piss out of big famous celebrities....ok so if you want to drag int he outside world are you aware Katie hopkins best friend cami (who she slagged to hell behind her back)threw parazone over her boyfriend yet all you want to talk about is how nasty perez is? hes done nothing to anyone

[Jules2]

Perez is absolutely pathetic look how he taunted Alex, look how he went into the DR threatening to leave, along with Nadia, if Ken wassnt taken out. Look how he puts his revolting tongue out and puckers up his lips. Look how he made love to the window.....blah blah blah. He does it to stress the others, the ones who object, Katie is forthright and tells him he offends her, others just moan behind his back.

[the truth]

Posts like this were the exact reason I made this poll. hahaha. I love that I know you're being serious.

I love that youre incapable and afraid of being sincere

[abhorson]

Posts like this were the exact reason I made this poll. hahaha. I love that I know you're being serious.

I don't think the truth is being serious but i do wonder some times!

[the truth]

Perez is absolutely pathetic look how he taunted Alex, look how he went into the DR threatening to leave, along with Nadia, if Ken wassnt taken out. Look how he puts his revolting tongue out and puckers up his lips. Look how he made love to the window.....blah blah blah. He does it to stress the others, the ones who object, Katie is forthright and tells him he offends her, others just moan behind his back.

trivial nonsense. shes a bully she picks on the weak and mocks and bullies and verbally taunts and abuses them...I wonder if she mocked your mother having back fat like a beached whale how youd REALLY react

[abhorson]

trivial nonsense. shes a bully she picks on the weak and mocks and bullies and verbally taunts and abuses them...I wonder if she mocked your mother having back fat like a beached whale how youd REALLY react

Please, not the "values" thing again:laugh:

[the truth]

Please, not the "values" thing again:laugh:

sorry I know I have them and you don't must be hard for the people around you

[Josy]

Perez is absolutely pathetic look how he taunted Alex, look how he went into the DR threatening to leave, along with Nadia, if Ken wassnt taken out. Look how he puts his revolting tongue out and puckers up his lips. Look how he made love to the window.....blah blah blah. He does it to stress the others, the ones who object, Katie is forthright and tells him he offends her, others just moan behind his back.

None of that apart from the Alex stuff is bullying

[Shaun]

Inside the house: Katie.

Outside of it: just as bad as each other. Voted Katie.

[bots]

this thread makes me laugh, its a great question, but its so irrelevant. The point is that bad is bad, degree of badness is largely irrelevant once the bad zone has been entered. To suggest that one is better than the other because there badness is not as great is just not a logical conclusion in today's society. Its even more funny when its used as defense for supporting someone who is inherently bad, which both are.

[Vicki Mon]

why does only why does katie only pick on people she feels are intellectually inferior to her.

She hates tattoos but never mentions them

Maybe she is frightened to voice her opinions because Michelle and Cami wouldnt like it?

pity they didnt debate how stupid she thinks people who have lots of tattoos are!!!

she doesnt have the courage of her convictions

[abhorson]

sorry I know I have them and you don't must be hard for the people around you

Your values said - you should not mock disabled or those who have blue whale fat. then you said KH had an accident which left her with brain damage.

But you have done nothing but mock her since:laugh:

[Withano]

the anti perez brigade realise hes doen nothing harmful in there really, so they drag in his outside job which is what joan rivers used to do and ricky gervais does, takes the piss out of big famous celebrities....ok so if you want to drag int he outside world are you aware Katie hopkins best friend cami (who she slagged to hell behind her back)threw parazone over her boyfriend yet all you want to talk about is how nasty perez is? hes done nothing to anyone

I'm not anti or pro Katie or Perez. I don't know why you assumed I was, can't think of any posts that would make you think that. I'm guessing you're just used to defending your opinions because you know they're unpopular. Perez is unarguably a dickhead in his work and through everything we've seen so far in the show. If you want to like him for other reasons then I'm not too interested, I can see his appeal, I just don't care for it.

[Daniel-X]

Katie she's vile and uses peoples weaknesses to her advance she's a BULLY

[Jack The Cat]

Perez

[Benjamin]

Neither are bullies in the house.

[JoshBB]

Katie is more of a bully, but Perez is more irritating.

[Jack The Cat]

the anti perez brigade realise hes doen nothing harmful in there really, so they drag in his outside job which is what joan rivers used to do and ricky gervais does, takes the piss out of big famous celebrities....ok so if you want to drag int he outside world are you aware Katie hopkins best friend cami (who she slagged to hell behind her back)threw parazone over her boyfriend yet all you want to talk about is how nasty perez is? hes done nothing to anyone

I personally disagree with all of this.

[JTM45]

Hopkins!
She's a foul, odious creature.:yuk:

[BBfan46]

Inside the house lets see..

Katie:

Tried convincing other housemates to isolate someone.
Followed the same hm around the house constantly telling them they were, vile, disgusting, worthless.
Told a housemate to their face they were 'thick' 'stupid' 'weirdo'
Attacked housemates for their personal appearance.
Told Perez on repeat he had a tiny penis.
Used her column to try influence eviction votes and views about hm's she dislikes
Used the same column to bitch about fellow housemates that she gets on fine with in the house.

Perez.

Taunted Alexander until he left.
Danced naked and thrust himself against the bedroom window.
Sticks his tongue out when people are roaring insults at him.
Attention Seeks.
Stuck cheese up his hooter.

I may have forgotten some things for both up there^^

I dislike them both but I know who is worse in the house and Katie Hopkins is more of a bully

Spot on

[Beth.]

Being venomous is different to being a bully. Katie Hopkins says **** for attention, Perez actively hounds and bullies people to the point they've taken restraining orders against him. He has made his career from bullying people. It's foolish to think that he isn't the biggest bully in the house when he wouldn't even be famous if he wasn't.

Here here.

[the truth]

Here here.

wrong the only person who hounds people is the vile bigoted bully hopkins

[Natalie.]

Katie is far worse

[-Sue-]

Inside the house lets see..

Katie:

Tried convincing other housemates to isolate someone.
Followed the same hm around the house constantly telling them they were, vile, disgusting, worthless.
Told a housemate to their face they were 'thick' 'stupid' 'weirdo'
Attacked housemates for their personal appearance.
Told Perez on repeat he had a tiny penis.
Used her column to try influence eviction votes and views about hm's she dislikes
Used the same column to bitch about fellow housemates that she gets on fine with in the house.

Perez.

Taunted Alexander until he left.
Danced naked and thrust himself against the bedroom window.
Sticks his tongue out when people are roaring insults at him.
Attention Seeks.
Stuck cheese up his hooter.

I may have forgotten some things for both up there^^

I dislike them both but I know who is worse in the house and Katie Hopkins is more of a bully

Superb post :D

[Arcana]

I am not a fan of Perez at all. He is quite obnoxious, but I'm finding Katie Hopkins behaviour towards him increasingly difficult to watch. She is a nasty bully. And she is revelling in the attention she is getting from the others. Typical playground bullying. She got away with it with Alisha as well. Not nice

[the truth]

KATIE HOPKINS SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARNED A WEEK AGO FOR HER VILE DISGUSTING BULLYING FRANKLY MENTALLY ILL BEHAVIOUR. WHICH OF COURSE IS DEVOID OF ANY HUMOUR OR ENTERTAINMENT VALUE. ITS JUST HORRIBLE PLAIN AND SIMPLE. SHE HAS STALKED HIM ABUSED HIM MOCKED HIS BODY HIS WEIGHT DRAGGED UP HIS CHILD, demanded everyone isolate alienate ignore him and don't speak to him.....shes threatened him umpteen times , to poison his drinks, to smash stuff over his head, shes smashed up property....every single time he walks in the room SHE STARTS AN ARGUMENT, SHE ABUSES HIM INSULTS HIM MOCKS HIM AND ENCOURAGES EVIL CAMI AND SPINELESS MICHELLE TO JOIN IN.....she starts EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT WITH HIM, EVERY ONE.
shes mocked alicias intelligence, his mothering skills, her eating habits, yet Alicia knew far more on the subject and frankly ruined Hopkins in the detail of every single argument. This has crossed the line a while ago and its shameful how big brother ha allowed her to go this far without a warning

[Denver]

I think tonight proved it was Perez

[MrWong]

On tonights show Perez admitted that he's been goading people from the beginning.

So for the sake of the poll i'll say Perez is the bigger bully but I don't actually think that there's been any bullying.

[lily.]

Katie.

Perez doesn't have the brains to bully anyone. He's just loud and obnoxious. Katie is smart, and uses her intelligence to manipulate people and situations.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching Katie Hopkins as a HM, but she is a vile person.

[Beso]

op admits 2 baiting! delete

[RichardG]

In the house, Katie by a country mile. Perez was irritating but Katie is just horrible to watch.

[ozzyshaggah]

parez is playing the game = funny

katie is serious = a nutter

no contest reallty

[the truth]

parez is playing the game = funny

katie is serious = a nutter

no contest reallty

100% spot on

[TwentyFourSeven]

Definitely Katie H

[GiRTh]

In the house or outside. In the house Katie for sure. Last night Perez was crossing the living room and Katie and Cami Li couldnt help- themselves but to start trying to wind him up I've never seen Perez simply object to Katies presence in the same room but I've certainly seen Katie object to Perez presence in the room.

Outside I'd say they were about the same.

[Tarryn]

I'd go with Katie, as last night she really would not leave him alone yet say's she can't stand being around him.

[sarah2020]

Katie is beyond worse than perez also Cami scrapes in too.

[JoshBB]

Katie is beyond worse than perez also Cami scrapes in too.

Cami made disgusting comments towards Alicia, like the comment on her family.. she still has some redeeming to do.

[smudgie]

Katie H is forever on his case, whereas he is more of an irritant.
So, I vote Katie H, as she is a malicious nasty twit.

[Loukas]

Being venomous is different to being a bully. Katie Hopkins says **** for attention, Perez actively hounds and bullies people to the point they've taken restraining orders against him. He has made his career from bullying people. It's foolish to think that he isn't the biggest bully in the house when he wouldn't even be famous if he wasn't.

completely agree 100%
He's done horrible things for attention throughout his 10 years in the business. Been in lawsuits about stealing photos, illegally posting all kinds of content onto his site including celebrity sex tapes and leaking music. Also outing celebrities which i think is absolutely disgusting!

A spokesman for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation had this to about Perez in 2006..
I have to question the character of a man who attacks others on such deeply personal levels, without provocation and for self-benefit, monetary or otherwise...If he's emotionally incapable of exhibiting even the tiniest bit of compassion for closeted people, if he can't be sensitive to the fact that coming out is a very personal decision and that the process can be difficult for some—especially celebrities—I feel sorry for him. If his juvenile behavior is his shtick, I think it makes him a much more pathetic figure, and one the gay and lesbian community should not support...If we support behavior like Hilton's, we applaud shallowness, arrogance, rage and invasion of privacy, and risk becoming what we despise.

He's an idiot through and through, always has been and always will be.

[Razor]

I am surprised BB hasn't pulled Katie for her behaviour. Imo BB want her to win.

[Jamesy]

Equally Perez should have been pulled for his behavior earlier on.

It seems with both Perez and Katie they are immune from warnings.