Producer Manipulation

[Josy]

Soooo we are now back to the same old producer manipulation which has pissed me off tbqh, this series has no need for them to be interfering and trying to cause **** which they should be able to realise going by the interest in this series and the amazing ratings but going by yesterdays task and now this Perez twist they want even more drama which is completely stupid because they push and push for trouble then when they get it they throw someone out.

Stupid.

Thoughts?

[Daniel.]

It's not been done much so I think they can get away with it

Here for Fight Night 3

[Amy Jade]

Saw it coming, they want him saved and from this weeks eviction he clearly has only a small fan base if he was bottom 2.

[Cal.]

I actually love secret houses (not sure how fun it's going to be with just one person, or for Perez himself actually) so I don't mind it - I don't know why they continue to do them - they haven't caused proper drama since the first time it was done in BB5.

[Josy]

It's not been done much so I think they can get away with it

Here for Fight Night 3

I can't see that ever happening though Daniel, they are too quick now to remove them or people walk that's why it's so stupid that they push for things to kick of then they basically **** themselves when it does.

[JoshBB]

Hasnt been too bad this series imo

[Josy]

Hasnt been too bad this series imo

I know it hasn't, that's why it's been so great and the ratings have reflected that but now they seem to have started going by the last few days, that's why it's stupid.

[Pincho Paxton]

Perez probably uses what he sees in a different way, because he only ever sees people bitching about him anyway. Unless Nadia swaps sides?

[Cal.]

I can't see that ever happening though Daniel, they are too quick now to remove them or people walk that's why it's so stupid that they push for things to kick of then they basically **** themselves when it does.

That is true - things would never reach that level because even in average arguments housemates are seperated from each other - which is a complete overreaction.

[abhorson]

He is not liked by nearly all HM's and nothing will change when he comes back in. It is pointless.

Other than peace. Still think they will not believe it.

[T*]

if they make it another bb15 i've lost all hope in the show

[Samm]

They need to stop

I'm not here for another BB15 in the summer

[Daniel.]

I think people forget how much producer manipulation series like 7 and 8 had on C4

[Cal.]

Wonder how long he's in there for - Chris and Helen weren't even in their's 24 hours lol

[armand.kay]

this season started off well but I can see it going down hill with all this interfering.

[Cal.]

I think people forget how much producer manipulation series like 7 and 8 had on C4

Things were decided by public votes (no matter how unpopular the outcome) tho - and the public were made well aware of what was going to happen before they happened. Nowadays thing's just happen and producers do what they want and they're notified of it after - no public votes or anything.

[Daniel.]

I can't see that ever happening though Daniel, they are too quick now to remove them or people walk that's why it's so stupid that they push for things to kick of then they basically **** themselves when it does.

True :worry:

I wish they let them get on with it

[Kizzy]

The 'save who you think is the most entertaining' was the most obvious.

[T*]

I think people forget how much producer manipulation series like 7 and 8 had on C4

they were voted for by the public, not internally selected by bb themselves.

[Daniel.]

Things were decided by public votes (no matter how unpopular the outcome) tho - and the public were made well aware of what was going to happen before they happened. Nowadays thing's just happen and producers do what they want and they're notified of it after - no public votes or anything.

True but like nothing has beaten the returning housemate twist for producer manipulation, also the constant Charley rigging <3 in BB8, plus the producers decided to take away David and Shanessa's pass to the house without any voting so they could save Ziggy, even though they won it fair and square.

[Daniel.]

I'm just trying to say producer manipulation isn't a new C5 thing like a lot of people make out :laugh:

[Cal.]

True but like nothing has beaten the returning housemate twist for producer manipulation, also the constant Charley rigging <3 in BB8, plus the producers decided to take away David and Shanessa's pass to the house without any voting so they could save Ziggy, even though they won it fair and square.

The returning housemates could have been any of the evicted HMs (who took part anyway) - it just so happened that the result was predictable and the right one with Nikki coming back.

[Samm]

they were voted for by the public, not internally selected by bb themselves.

David & Shanessa getting taken away wasn't voted for

[Samm]

Oh daniel already said that

[T*]

David & Shanessa getting taken away wasn't voted for

true

[Josy]

I'm just trying to say producer manipulation isn't a new C5 thing like a lot of people make out :laugh:

Oh no it definitely isn't a new thing but it's annoying as hell especially when all decisions are made by BB, I mean if they have a real reason for choosing Perez and they show us then, ok, even though I still hate it I won't find it so bad but it just feels like the Helen thing all over again atm.

[Babayaro.]

I hope he's in there until at least Tuesday. Maybe he could return to the house live during the eviction show?

[Kazanne]

I hope he's in there until at least Tuesday. Maybe he could return to the house live during the eviction show?

I hope they leave him there and forget about him:hehe:

[Miranda123]

Soooo we are now back to the same old producer manipulation which has pissed me off tbqh, this series has no need for them to be interfering and trying to cause **** which they should be able to realise going by the interest in this series and the amazing ratings but going by yesterdays task and now this Perez twist they want even more drama which is completely stupid because they push and push for trouble then when they get it they throw someone out.

Stupid.

Thoughts?

Completely stupid, even though I voted for Helen to win, I still didnt agree with them saving her from every vote at the beginning, its supposed to be an organic experiment ffsake

Perez didnt go on Friday, so there is no need to save him like this, its pathetic

[Jamesy]

I thought they got it right at the start of the series. Singling out Katie to nominate two housemates at the start was a little silly, although it was quite a minor thing and I could let it pass.

The first half of the series has been good with little to no manipulation and an entertaining house that has developed naturally.

Now they are going back to what was complained about most in 2014. These ways of manipulation interfere with the natural development and flow of the house. This will of course cause arguments and more although it doesn't feel as exciting or good TV when you can see who the producers want to be targeted and where the focus is going.

I would rather see it develop naturally. The producers just need to realize they can leave things alone and stuff with happen. Since the addition of Katie (which really wasn't needed for this cast) the natural flow has fallen apart.

[chuff me dizzy]

IF Perez is immune it disgusting ,people are desperate to get him out,I thought it odd when I saw it say normal nominations,and then up springs this

[Jack The Cat]

this season started off well but I can see it going down hill with all this interfering.

I agree, the decisions imo are getting worse and worse, I guess the salaries now only attract the less experienced and competent producers.

[Johnnyuk123]

The only good thing about this secret task is that the rest of the house get a break from the moron.

[rionablue]

I agree Josy. I hate secret houses and these twists are getting old and tired now. Perez should have been up for nomination like the rest of them. They want to keep him in. If he gets a chance of course he will put Cami up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!