Perez calling Cami a Chola

[Amy Jade]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

[InOne]

He's Cuban so it's all good.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

teehee

[JoshBB]

is it?? **** didn't know that. bad perez!!! :nono:

[Samm]

Agree, but it's fine because perez is hilarious :rolleyes:

[Shaun]

http://i.imgur.com/jdhUlWF.png

just a hunch

[Daniel-X]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

It's not just Perez who's saying it it's Patsy too...

[Kazanne]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

Cos,he is their circus clown and can do no wrong.

[Miranda123]

Agree, but it's fine because perez is hilarious :rolleyes:

or like some have said, its ok, cause he's cuban??

so if there had been another black guy in there this year, Alexander could have called him a n....r??

they make it up as they go along

[Amy Jade]

http://i.imgur.com/jdhUlWF.png

just a hunch
But by that standard black people could go in the house and say the N word but it's ok?

[Daniel-X]

I love how everyone's just said Perez in this thread when Patsy has been saying chola for days

[Josy]

Cami Li uses the word herself.

[Miranda123]

Bye, chola! :wavey:

you being racist there Vanessa?

be careful someone doesnt pull out the rule book on you lol

[Daniel-X]

But by that standard black people could go in the house and say the N word but it's ok?

Well yeah... It happened with Charley Uchea

[Amy Jade]

It's not just Perez who's saying it it's Patsy too...
Irrelevant but fine why is nobody pulling both of them up on it?

[Benjamin]

Cami uses the word herself

[Vanessa]

Cami Li uses the word herself.

She did! :laugh:

[Drew.]

Cami Li uses the word herself.

Cami uses the word herself

Thats that settled

[Shaun]

But by that standard black people could go in the house and say the N word but it's ok?

...yes? Your point?

[Miranda123]

Cami Li uses the word herself.

so others can? when did that become ok?

didnt Charley Uchea call herself that and then a girl called Emma?Emily? got thrown out for using the same word??

[Daniel-X]

Cami Li uses the word herself.

Exactly that's my point

Its like my view on the Emily situation in BB8 if someone else regardless of their race uses the same slang they should get the same punishment

[Amy Jade]

Cami Li uses the word herself.

When?

[Josy]

When?

I never took note of the date and time, in the house.

[Daniel-X]

Irrelevant but fine why is nobody pulling both of them up on it?

It's not irrelevant at all were on the subject of Cami being called CHOLA

and Patsy calls her Chola

I don't think it could be anymore relevant

[wendywillow]

I love how everyone's just said Perez in this thread when Patsy has been saying chola for days


lol, I know, logic means nothing

[Daniel-X]

When?

It's like the Charley Uchea situation - Cami-Li should be punished also if other people do

[Kazanne]

Cami uses the word herself

Doesn't matter does it ?didn't someone say it's ok for B***K people to call themselves N*****S but its offensive if others do it?

[chuff me dizzy]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

I didnt know that !! thanks for pointing it out

[sampvt]

Bye, chola! :wavey:

she is chola, he is cholo

[Amy Jade]

...yes? Your point?

Why was Ken kicked out then? both were racial slurs.

[Josy]

It also isn't exactly a slur when it's used these days but don't let that stop anyone grabbing the pitchforks.

[Kazanne]

so others can? when did that become ok?

didnt Charley Uchea call herself that and then a girl called Emma?Emily? got thrown out for using the same word??

:clap1::clap1:

[Benjamin]

Doesn't matter does it ?didn't someone say it's ok for B***K people to call themselves N*****S but its offensive if others do it?

Perez is Cuban though

[Amy Jade]

I never took note of the date and time, in the house.

You should have. Perez said it three times 26 Jan between 9pm to 10pm

[sampvt]

If he was a first generation Cuban calling a Puerto rican a chola, it would be highly offensive but he is 2nd generation and can hide behind that but he defo meant it as a slur and its far worse than ken using the n word.

[erinp5]

Calum Best calls her that !!

[Lstan]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

people were supporting ken when he said she looked like an Arab **** so does that answer your question?

[Amy Jade]

Perez is Cuban though
Charley Uchea is black but got a warning for saying the N word.

[Josy]

You should have. Perez said it three times 26 Jan between 9pm to 10pm

Sorry but tv shows just aren't that important to me.

[Daniel-X]

Charley Uchea is black but got a warning for saying the N word.

Yeah a warning she used it three times for crying out loud.

Emily used it once and she got ejected.

Cami should get a warning too then

[Amy Jade]

Sorry but tv shows just aren't that important to me.

Really though?

[chuff me dizzy]

Why was Ken kicked out then? both were racial slurs.

:clap1:

[Benjamin]

Perez haters really are clutching at straws now, How desperate.

[Kazanne]

Sorry but tv shows just aren't that important to me.

So its ok for us to all call her that? right

[Amy Jade]

Yeah a warning she used it three times for crying out loud.

Emily used it once and she got ejected

Duh.

Perez said it three times too, where was his warning?

[Josy]

So its ok for us to all call her that? right

Sure

[Daniel-X]

Perez haters really are clutching at straws now, How desperate.

^This

[Daniel-X]

Duh.

Perez said it three times too, where was his warning?

Well where the **** are Cami and Patsy's they've used it on more than one occasion?

[Amy Jade]

Perez haters really are clutching at straws now, How desperate.

Wow ok how dare I bring up something I feel is a valid point just because you disagree Ben.

[bots]

I never took note of the date and time, in the house.

:nono::joker:

[Benjamin]

Wow ok how dare I bring up something I feel is a valid point just because you disagree Ben.

Not that I disagree, but the fact you target Perez, yet he, Cami herself, Patsy, and Calum have all said it that we know of.

[Amy Jade]

Well where the **** are Cami and Patsy's they've used it on more than one occasion?

If they've said it then yeah maybe they should. Tonight is the only time I have noticed it and thought it was said in a derogatory fashion.

[Amy Jade]

Not that I disagree, but the fact you target Perez, yet he, Cami herself, Patsy, and Calum have all said it that we know of.
I haven't heard anyone other than Perez use it and he used it over and over again.

Sorry I'm clutching at straws. I'll just call Perez a king and laugh at his inane jokes from now on shall I. :idc:

[Brother Leon]

She's used it herself as do some other Cubans. Hell...Michelle and Patsy used it too, but I imagine that was due to lack of education as to how it could be considered offensive and copying Cami.

Try again x

[Benjamin]

I haven't heard anyone other than Perez use it and he used it over and over again.

Sorry I'm clutching at straws. I'll just call Perez a king and laugh at his inane jokes from now on shall I. :idc:

Oh Amy, I thought better of you than this. I'm not saying you are wrong for your opinion, but the fact you target Perez because you hate him, yet overlooked many others saying it.

[Daniel-X]

I haven't heard anyone other than Perez use it and he used it over and over again.

Sorry I'm clutching at straws. I'll just call Perez a king and laugh at his inane jokes from now on shall I. :idc:

You are clutching at straws though.

I find it hard to believe you haven't heard anybody else say it besides Perez tonight.

It was used like five or six times in yesterday's episode by Cami-Li and Patsy so I just think you choose to hear what you want...

[Benjamin]

Says the admin of a tv show forum

No idea what that has to do with it :laugh:

[Kazanne]

Not that I disagree, but the fact you target Perez, yet he, Cami herself, Patsy, and Calum have all said it that we know of.

Well tbf,I haven't heard them say it,so maybe Amy Jade hadn't,maybe she just heard Perez as I did.

[Kazanne]

You are clutching at straws though.

I find it hard to believe you haven't heard anybody else say it besides Perez tonight.

It was used like five or six times in yesterday's episode by Cami-Li and Patsy so I just think you choose to hear what you want...

I've not heard them say that either,:shrug:

[Daniel-X]

I've not heard them say that either,:shrug:

Patsy was shouting it repeatedly last night when she dragged Cami-Li away from the argument with Perez and Cami-Li referred to herself as a chola then also

[Josy]

Says the admin of a tv show forum

Good point, Bex.

mmm I wonder how many admins go around noting down the times and dates of every incident that happens on a tv show :think:

My guess would be none now as great as you may find it discussing me please don't and just keep to the thread topic.

[wendywillow]

I've not heard them say that either,:shrug:


maybe it is the Perez show. No one pays attention what anyone else says (well, maybe KH just cause shes so loud)

[Jules2]

Well someone has just had to apologise in the media for saying coloured instead of black. Didnt listen to it all but it sounded quite serious. I guess now though anything goes in the BB house, they came down to heavy in the beginning with Ken and Jeremy so they have gone all the other way now because it is Perez who has taken the fun out of the house and who has manipulated the powers that be.

[smudgie]

Chola can be used to describe a style as well.
Teens dress in the Chola style, young Gang girls call themselves Chola, the same as the boys.:shrug:
Sometimes pays to use the proper dictionary now and then rather than depend on wiki.
Very fashionable nowadays. The word and the fashion that is.:laugh:

[Amy Jade]

Oh Amy, I thought better of you than this. I'm not saying you are wrong for your opinion, but the fact you target Perez because you hate him, yet overlooked many others saying it.

I haven't overlooked anything. I simply haven't heard anyone apart from Perez saying it. IF Cami and Patsy have said it then why have they not been warned also?

[JoshBB]

She's used it herself as do some other Cubans. Hell...Michelle and Patsy used it too, but I imagine that was due to lack of education as to how it could be considered offensive and copying Cami.

Try again x

Some black people call each other ***** but that doesn't make it okay for some old white guy to use it in a derogatory fashion.

[Benjamin]

I haven't overlooked anything. I simply haven't heard anyone apart from Perez saying it. IF Cami and Patsy have said it then why have they not been warned also?

I don't know why, I'm not BB. :laugh:

[johne]

Calum Best calls her that !!

I agree, if Cami uses it and let's Calum use it to her, then what's the problem, otherwise Patsy, Cami, Calum and Perez must all be hauled off to jail.

What we need is a list giving "Approved words of the week" to avoid these terrible outbreaks of racism.

[Beso]

shes a skank,fair assessment by perez!

[Amy Jade]

I don't know why, I'm not BB. :laugh:

ok Ben bye

[erinp5]

I agree, if Cami uses it and let's Calum use it to her, then what's the problem, otherwise Patsy, Cami, Calum and Perez must all be hauled off to jail.

What we need is a list giving "Approved words of the week" to avoid these terrible outbreaks of racism.

It was Calum that I first heard use it lol
If you look out the clip when she was saying to Calum "Don't censor me " he uses it then .

[Kazanne]

Patsy was shouting it repeatedly last night when she dragged Cami-Li away from the argument with Perez and Cami-Li referred to herself as a chola then also

She may have done ,but I for one never heard it,I'm not glued to it for an hour.

[Mercado]

It's true that in most of Latin America Chola can be used pejoratively but in Los Angeles a chola is also known as a "homegirl" and there is a homegirl culture and the term is not derogatory. Fergie and. Gwen Steffani have used chola culture in their videos. Cholas are often tough girls that "don't take no **** from nobody", so it would make sense Cami would call herself a Chola as would Perez.

[Kazanne]

Well someone has just had to apologise in the media for saying coloured instead of black. Didnt listen to it all but it sounded quite serious. I guess now though anything goes in the BB house, they came down to heavy in the beginning with Ken and Jeremy so they have gone all the other way now because it is Perez who has taken the fun out of the house and who has manipulated the powers that be.

I was going to mention that Jules,it was Benedict Cumberbatch,

[Brother Leon]

Some black people call each other ***** but that doesn't make it okay for some old white guy to use it in a derogatory fashion.

Except this would be like and old black guy using the word..

[Jake.]

Or perhaps nobody gets warned and we let them get on with it? :think:

[Lister of Smeg]

Perez is Latino as well both his parents are Cuban.

[Withano]

It's true that in most of Latin America Chola can be used pejoratively but in Los Angeles a chola is also known as a "homegirl" and there is a homegirl culture and the term is not derogatory. Fergie and. Gwen Steffani have used chola culture in their videos. Cholas are often tough girls that "don't take no **** from nobody", so it would make sense Cami would call herself a Chola as would Perez.

Lets all take a minute to reflect on our first ever post on this forum and realise we'll never be as cool as this guy

[Northern Monkey]

It's not just Perez who's saying it it's Patsy too...

Poor Patsy she's clueless.She'd be horrified if she knew she was using racial slurs.She almost topped herself after asking Alex to take her to Compton:laugh:

[Mick McMick]

Or perhaps nobody gets warned and we let them get on with it? :think:

Bring back Ken!

[Mystic Mock]

He's Cuban so it's all good.

Exactly.

Perez is afraid of no Chola.

[Mystic Mock]

If they've said it then yeah maybe they should. Tonight is the only time I have noticed it and thought it was said in a derogatory fashion.

Really? More like you was looking out for it because it was Perez saying it.

[abhorson]

So happy that i never got involved in this one. For a change no infractions :laugh:

[Caballo]

Remarkable double standards on this thread, I'm amazed that some of the most vociferous denouncers of Ken for his use of Negro are allowing their 'integrity' to be compromised defending Perez. Get your mirrors out people, some of you need to take a long hard look in them!

[Mystic Mock]

Remarkable double standards on this thread, I'm amazed that some of the most vociferous denouncers of Ken for his use of Negro are allowing their 'integrity' to be compromised defending Perez. Get your mirrors out people, some of you need to take a long hard look in them!

Being serious I don't believe that Perez should be using the term either, but I believe that none of them in there should be using that term imo as it's offensive.

It is only words though so I wouldn't warn these Housemates from using it, it's just not what I want to hear.

But why Perez is the only one getting attacked for it is beyond me, the detractors are getting desperate now.

[Vanessa]

Being serious I don't believe that Perez should be using the term either, but I believe that none of them in there should be using that term imo as it's offensive.

It is only words though so I wouldn't warn these Housemates from using it, it's just not what I want to hear.

But why Perez is the only one getting attacked for it is beyond me, the detractors are getting desperate now.

It's ok for Patsy and Cami to use that word, but not Perez. :suspect:

[Cherie]

It's true that in most of Latin America Chola can be used pejoratively but in Los Angeles a chola is also known as a "homegirl" and there is a homegirl culture and the term is not derogatory. Fergie and. Gwen Steffani have used chola culture in their videos. Cholas are often tough girls that "don't take no **** from nobody", so it would make sense Cami would call herself a Chola as would Perez.

:clap2:

[Mystic Mock]

It's ok for Patsy and Cami to use that word, but not Perez. :suspect:

According to the anti-dick crowd I would say you're right.

[Vanessa]

According to the anti-dick crowd I would say you're right.

Perez is 3rd favourite to win, so it's all good. This is not even worth bothering about. It's nit picking. :spin:

[Mystic Mock]

Perez is 3rd favourite to win, so it's all good. This is not even worth bothering about. It's nit picking. :spin:

His 3rd favourite to win?

His making a Pereiever out of us all.

[Caballo]

Being serious I don't believe that Perez should be using the term either, but I believe that none of them in there should be using that term imo as it's offensive.

It is only words though so I wouldn't warn these Housemates from using it, it's just not what I want to hear.

But why Perez is the only one getting attacked for it is beyond me, the detractors are getting desperate now.

I agree non of them should be using it, look at the context in which it's being used for your answer as to why Perez is copping the main flak (haters aside). He's using it as a derogatory term in monologues to camera, the other two are mimicing Cami in coversations with her.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree non of them should be using it, look at the context in which it's being used for your answer as to why Perez is copping the main flak (haters aside). He's using it as a derogatory term in monologues to camera, the other two are mimicing Cami in coversations with her.

Fair enough with your post, at least you are not pretending not to have heard the other two say the word though.

[Jose Mourinho]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?In modern usage in the United States, the term "cholo" usually indicates a person of Mexican or Mexican-American descent, generally mestizo or Amerindian, who is associated with American cultural subgroups such as the "lowrider" car culture, or the hip hop scene in general. The term is used in Caló slang, but it in turn has infiltrated into mainstream American English.

That's why.

[Vanessa]

She will be gone tonight, so I won't have to see this pathetic excuse for a human being anymore. YAY! :cheer2:

[chuff me dizzy]

Perez is Latino as well both his parents are Cuban.

Makes no difference

[Jose Mourinho]

Cholo*(Spanish pronunciation:*[ˈtʃolo]) is an ethnic*slur*created by*Hispanic criollos*in the 16th century. In sociological literature, it is one of*castas,[1]*and refers to individuals of mixed or pure*Native American*ancestry, or other racially mixed origin. The precise usage of "cholo" has varied widely in different times and places. In modern American usage, it most often applies to a low-income*Mexican-American*sub-culture and manner of dress.

From Wiki ^^

Why is nobody clocking the racial sterotyping?

Makes no differencen modern usage in the United States, the term "cholo" usually indicates a person of Mexican or Mexican-American descent, generally mestizo or Amerindian, who is associated with American cultural subgroups such as the "lowrider" car culture, or the hip hop scene in general. The term is used in Caló slang, but it in turn has infiltrated into mainstream American English.

Modern usage, THX.

[smudgie]

In modern usage in the United States, the term "cholo" usually indicates a person of Mexican or Mexican-American descent, generally mestizo or Amerindian, who is associated with American cultural subgroups such as the "lowrider" car culture, or the hip hop scene in general. The term is used in Caló slang, but it in turn has infiltrated into mainstream American English.

That's why.

Exactly, but people will/can choose to ignore the information as it is much more convenient to have something to whinge about.:laugh::laugh:

[Jose Mourinho]

Exactly, but people will/can choose to ignore the information as it is much more convenient to have something to whinge about.:laugh::laugh:THIS!

[Vanessa]

Exactly, but people will/can choose to ignore the information as it is much more convenient to have something to whinge about.:laugh::laugh:

This reminds me of last year, when people were desperately trying to stop Gary from winning. It failed! :joker:

[johne]

Remarkable double standards on this thread, I'm amazed that some of the most vociferous denouncers of Ken for his use of Negro are allowing their 'integrity' to be compromised defending Perez. Get your mirrors out people, some of you need to take a long hard look in them!

And while you've got your mirrors out take another long hard look, and wonder why you've spent four pages of debate concerning what politically correct word is or isn't acceptable this week. Doesn't it make you think that perhaps society is getting rather sinister????

[Jose Mourinho]

And while you've got your mirrors out take another long hard look, and wonder why you've spent four pages of debate concerning what politically correct word is or isn't acceptable this week. Doesn't it make you think that perhaps society is getting rather sinister????REKT

[erinp5]

Channel 5 has been forced to cut scenes from Celebrity Big Brother 2015 over fears of more complaints.



We told on Monday how the show attracted a further 1,100 complaints in its second week to TV watchdog Ofcom.

Every single episode attracted at least 10 complaints while a number saw over 100, with one episode seeing more than 800 people write in.

They’re in addition to the 500 complaints in the opening week which saw the ejection of two housemates.

Last night saw Perez Hilton return to the house and immediately wind up Katie Hopkins.

While we did seen him chase, kiss and even LICK Katie, more of Perez’s antics were cut from the episode.

In scenes not shown, Perez spent the evening “frantically thrusting his hips” at Katie before telling her to “lick it good, suck this d***, just like you should”, The Sun newspaper reports.



The tabloid claims that bosses axed the segment due to “fearing a major backlash” from viewers.

Meanwhile, Big Brother had to call Cami Li to the Diary Room this week to investigate whether her nickname “Chola” was potentially offensive.

Evicted Patsy Kensit revealed: “Cami Li is like my little Chola. It’s a Latina gangster. I love all American films and stuff so I was talking to her about stuff like that and Chola’s a name I’ve heard in a film and she loved it.

“But [Big Brother] called her upstairs and said, ‘Is it an offensive term? Chola?’ And she was like, ‘No, it’s great!'”

Celebrity Big Brother 2015 continues nightly on Channel 5.


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[Gogonoel]

So yall gonna rag on Perez for using Latin slang while being Latino but not on Cami-Li for appropriating AAVE all day. :rolleyes:

[Mercado]

Once again, in The US where Perez and Cami. Li are from cholo or chola is not derogatory. In South America it can be used offensively. My aunts were cholas,and they were tough cookies.

[Cherie]

Channel 5 has been forced to cut scenes from Celebrity Big Brother 2015 over fears of more complaints.



We told on Monday how the show attracted a further 1,100 complaints in its second week to TV watchdog Ofcom.

Every single episode attracted at least 10 complaints while a number saw over 100, with one episode seeing more than 800 people write in.

They’re in addition to the 500 complaints in the opening week which saw the ejection of two housemates.

Last night saw Perez Hilton return to the house and immediately wind up Katie Hopkins.

While we did seen him chase, kiss and even LICK Katie, more of Perez’s antics were cut from the episode.

In scenes not shown, Perez spent the evening “frantically thrusting his hips” at Katie before telling her to “lick it good, suck this d***, just like you should”, The Sun newspaper reports.



The tabloid claims that bosses axed the segment due to “fearing a major backlash” from viewers.

Meanwhile, Big Brother had to call Cami Li to the Diary Room this week to investigate whether her nickname “Chola” was potentially offensive.

Evicted Patsy Kensit revealed: “Cami Li is like my little Chola. It’s a Latina gangster. I love all American films and stuff so I was talking to her about stuff like that and Chola’s a name I’ve heard in a film and she loved it.

“But [Big Brother] called her upstairs and said, ‘Is it an offensive term? Chola?’ And she was like, ‘No, it’s great!'”

Celebrity Big Brother 2015 continues nightly on Channel 5.


Read more: http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...#ixzz3QB5rtef5
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What on earth, how can anyone complain when they have been warned every 15 minutes about potential offensive content, it's the equivalent of someone turning on a porn movie and then complaining about the content :bored: