Michelle does not represent the gay community...

[Conzors]

...if dressing up as a woman and prancing around in woman's attire represents the gay community then we are not in 2015 i'm sorry.

I know being a drag queen is a job, and its very fun and they are all funny and i see all that. It represents freedom of expression and freedom to be who you want to be but it does NOT represent the gay community, so she shouldn't say that she represents the gay community because she doesn't, she represents a small part of it at most, but mostly represents her community which are drag queens.

(and if theyre anything like the ones im seeing on BOTS - being fame hungry, attention seeking, sexual freaks[WHAT IS WITH THE LICKING]then god forbid anyone thinking thats what being gay is all about). The ones on BOTS don't represent drag queens in a good light, and brings the gay community back 100 years.

Opinions?

[MB.]

I feel like her opinion of Perez would change if he put on a wig and a bit of lippy.

[Lstan]

...if dressing up as a woman and prancing around in woman's attire represents the gay community then we are not in 2015 i'm sorry.

I know being a drag queen is a job, and its very fun and they are all funny and i see all that. It represents freedom of expression and freedom to be who you want to be but it does NOT represent the gay community, so she shouldn't say that she represents the gay community because she doesn't, she represents a small part of it, and thank god that they all arent the ones that im seeing on BOTS - being fame hungry, attention seeking, sexual freaks. They don't represent drag queens in a good light, and brings the gay community back 100 years.

Opinions?

you make a brilliant point, but as i am not part of that community i dont think its my place to comment.

[elliebrew]

Wonderful...

MICHELLE TO WIN

[Conzors]

you make a brilliant point, but as i am not part of that community i dont think its my place to comment.

Everyone is allowed to comment.
I'm gay, but not a drag queen yet im commenting on them
x

[Denver]

Much better representive then Pratez

[Conzors]

Wonderful...

MICHELLE TO WIN

I am very fond of Michelle but you cannot say she represents the gay community as a whole!

[Conzors]

I feel like her opinion of Perez would change if he put on a wig and a bit of lippy.

YES YES YES.

[JTM45]

She really is a pathetic woman who thinks she can use a 'community' to make something of herself but if following Hopkins around like a lost sheep is all there is to her then i feel genuine pity for her!
Another 5 years and she can ship herself off to an old folks home where she can play 'Bad Bitches' with all of the other old ladies.:bored:

[Conzors]

Much better representive then Pratez

Yes but going back to MB's point - Perez has a very diva-ish attitude and is very attention seeking and likes being the center of attention - much like a Drag Queen.

[Northern Monkey]

She represents herself that is all.

[Vanessa]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/04fe379ce793d7d49587b4d5e49de363/tumblr_niecdekE4F1qk6j64o5_400.gif :love:

[elliebrew]

http://giphy.com/gifs/4ryFqe7VR2j7y/html5

[elliebrew]

http://giphy.com/gifs/4ryFqe7VR2j7y/html5

[elliebrew]

how the hell do i post gifs

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

http://giphy.com/gifs/4ryFqe7VR2j7y/html5

http://giphy.com/gifs/4ryFqe7VR2j7y/html5

how the hell do i post gifs

omfg :joker:

[power2thepeople]

Got me thinking Conzers and I'm speaking from my brother's perspective. He is gay and has staged charity drag shows....as you say, for artistic expression and fun in the context of the show and ticket sales/raising money.

The drag persona is a very small part of him as a whole. He wouldn't classify himself as a drag queen but just someone who has the freedom to express himself how he wants when he wants. I do know one thing.....he would find it highly amusing that a straight woman claims to represent 'the gays' on the basis of largely being known for a TV show with RuPaul.

She obviously has good intentions but an over-inflated opinion of her role in life in my opinion.

[Jack The Cat]

She represents herself that is all. I agree and think this could be said for anyone other the planet. Can't see how anyone can say they represent anyone else, even politicians only pretend that they do.

[Conzors]

Got me thinking Conzers and I'm speaking from my brother's perspective. He is gay and has staged charity drag shows....as you say, for artistic expression and fun in the context of the show and ticket sales/raising money.

The drag persona is a very small part of him as a whole. He wouldn't classify himself as a drag queen but just someone who has the freedom to express himself how he wants when he wants. I do know one thing.....he would find it highly amusing that a straight woman claims to represent 'the gays' on the basis of largely being known for a TV show with RuPaul.

She obviously has good intentions but an over-inflated opinion of her role in life in my opinion.

YES! YOU HAVE IT!
He is a drag queen because he has the right for freedom of expression - he wants to do tht sometimes which is fair enough.

He is not a drag queen because he is gay.

[Angelika]

She really is a pathetic woman who thinks she can use a 'community' to make something of herself but if following Hopkins around like a lost sheep is all there is to her then i feel genuine pity for her!
Another 5 years and she can ship herself off to an old folks home where she can play 'Bad Bitches' with all of the other old ladies.:bored:

She doesn't represent anyone but herself.
If she has a "cause" its not coming through effectively, she needs to take lessons from Perez on how to further that cause.

[Angelika]

how the hell do i post gifs

Hi Michelle.......how did you get that iPad through BB Security!
To answer your question.......You can't post gifs from within the CBB House, not allowed! :pat::pat:

[Benjamin]

http://giphy.com/gifs/4ryFqe7VR2j7y/html5

use [ img][ /img] but take out the spaces

[elliebrew]

http://i.giphy.com/4ryFqe7VR2j7y.gif

[Benjamin]

Yes you are welcome :idc:

[elliebrew]

http://i.giphy.com/bxqnPHvJaAdMc.gif

[Mystic Mock]

A poster that I saw on DS would accuse you of “pretending to be gay” with that OP Conzors.

I can't remember their name again now though but it was funny.:joker:

Anyway I agree with you on Michelle, I'm not gay so it's probably not my place to say this but I'm going for it anyway, I feel that she uses the gay community as a way to big up her ego, and to further her career.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So basically you're making this assumption based on a tv show about drag queens that she is a judge on.

Do some research she has been a massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights for all gays.

She has never once said all gay men are drag queens or neither does she think that. She's been openly fighting for gay men and lesbians for 3 decades!

Some research should of been done by yourself before posting on such a serious subject and not basing a strong opinion on another reality show shes a part of seeing that's just a part of her media career.

I'm sorry op but you got this one wrong.

Le tme repeat myself MICHELLE HAS NEVER ONCE SAID SHE ONLY SUPPORTS DRAG QUEENS OR INSINUATED ALL GAYS ARE DRAG QUEENS. MICHELLE IS A SUPPORTER OF THE WHOLE GAY COMMUNITY! HER T-SHIRT REGARDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE LGBT SOCIETY SHOULD TELL YOU THAT

You're welcome :)

[Lstan]

Everyone is allowed to comment.
I'm gay, but not a drag queen yet im commenting on them
x

Thank you

I guess i dont really get the connection between drag queens and being gay. two of my close friends are gay (one gay one lesbian) and even then their experiences are different and they experience different problems although they come under the umbrella term LBGT.

this is what confused me which i asked about in another thread-how does her being on a show for drag queens make her a spokesperson for a whole group of diverse people on that alone? I assumed she did more than that because she keeps going on about the LBGT movement i assumed she did more, but i have yet to hear her mention anything else shes done for the cause (not saying she hasnt, just its not been made clear). i dont see how championing drag queens helps my friend from not getting a brick through his window when it was discovered he was gay? how does her promoting visibility for drag queens stop my friend being sexually harassed and told she just hasnt "had a good dick in her thats why shes lesbian" after she was spotted with her girlfriend?

but i think what personally wound me up was when she went on about perez setting the movement back 50 years. yes i agree totally point out hes a douchebag et al but they way she said that made it sound like she was rallying for points. i dont like perez either but making it out that everyone is going to judge all gay people on his actions when there are plently of gay (and very much loved) celebrities out there is pretty insulting to the viewers and came across as pandering, and being as big of a drama queen as perez himself. I think its great she is championing drag queens, but again i dont get how that makes her the spokeperson for all LBGT people based on the fact she co-hosts a drag show on that point alone. I think is condescending to the problems and violence LBGT people still unfortunatly face today.

sorry for the long post but thats my whole view, i didnt want to comment as someone who is not LBGT but seeing the problems and issues my gay friends have gone though i dont like how this is all seeminging being simplified down to "well as long as I can wear high heels and make up everything is ok". when you are doing something about the violence, exploitation and homelessness that effect LBGT people then we can talk. until then, can we not with the grandiose statements please.

(eta i am going on how this is being discussed, not what she may do overall as thats not been made clear by anyone)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Thank you

I guess i dont really get the connection between drag queens and being gay. two of my close friends are gay (one gay one lesbian) and even then their experiences are different and they experience different problems although they come under the umbrella term LBGT.

this is what confused me which i asked about in another thread-how does her being on a show for drag queens make her a spokesperson for a whole group of diverse people on that alone? I assumed she did more than that because she keeps going on about the LBGT movement i assumed she did more, but i have yet to hear her mention anything else shes done for the cause (not saying she hasnt, just its not been made clear). i dont see how championing drag queens helps my friend from not getting a brick through his window when it was discovered he was gay? how does her promoting visibility for drag queens stop my friend being sexually harassed and told she just hasnt "had a good dick in her thats why shes lesbian" after she was spotted with her girlfriend?

but i think what personally wound me up was when she went on about perez setting the movement back 50 years. yes i agree totally point out hes a douchebag et al but they way she said that made it sound like she was rallying for points. i dont like perez either but making it out that everyone is going to judge all gay people on his actions when there are plently of gay (and very much loved) celebrities out there is pretty insulting to the viewers and came across as pandering, and being as big of a drama queen as perez himself. I think its great she is championing drag queens, but again i dont get how that makes her the spokeperson for all LBGT people based on the fact she co-hosts a drag show on that point alone. I think is condescending to the problems and violence LBGT people still unfortunatly face today.

sorry for the long post but thats my whole view, i didnt want to comment as someone who is not LBGT but seeing the problems and issues my gay friends have gone though i dont like how this is all seeminging being simplified down to "well as long as I can wear high heels and make up everything is ok". when you are doing something about the violence, exploitation and homelessness that effect LBGT people then we can talk. until then, can we not with the grandiose statements please.

(eta i am going on how this is being discussed, not what she may do overall as thats not been made clear by anyone)

Michelle has been massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights and working to stop homophobia for all gays so that includes your friend. I don't think your friend would have a problem with a woman with the power of being in the public eye bringing such disgusting acts to the publics attention and getting something done about it.

That's 3 decades shes worked side by side with all members from the lgbt community.

She has touched on it briefly on the show aswell so it seems people just didn't pay attention.

The fact she got so upset with Perez was obvious she had been talking about it more but obviously with editing it wasn't shown that's why people will obviously come to the conclusion she was overreacting because they done know her history or what led up to that outburst in the diary room.

[Gogonoel]

As much as I love Michelle she is a ****ty ally did you guys forget how she loves to say tr**ny?? http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/michelle-visage-biggest-story-rupauls-drag-race-season-six300714

[Shaun]

As much as I love Michelle she is a ****ty ally did you guys forget how she loves to say tr**ny?? http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/michelle-visage-biggest-story-rupauls-drag-race-season-six300714

If I did then that article makes no mention of that whatsoever...

[Gogonoel]

If I did then that article makes no mention of that whatsoever...

The article where she is defending transphobic language?
The one right there?

[Shaun]

Well I mean she was talking about the 'she-mail' segment of the show (which was a total overreaction but now it's gone I couldn't care less) and doesn't mention the word ****** whatsoever but OK

[Gogonoel]

Well I mean she was talking about the 'she-mail' segment of the show (which was a total overreaction but now it's gone I couldn't care less) and doesn't mention the word ****** whatsoever but OK

I literally says T word in the title
also is she-male not transphobic???

[Lolly1210]

If I was a member of gay community I'd be ashamed to have someone like Michelle representing me, look how she treated Alicia. She treated that women with utter scorn and derision. Even when Michelle was being pleasant to Alicia her tone was horribly patronising. If the gay community want someone like that representing them ... well...good luck with changing preconceived ideas.

[Mick McMick]

No One person is a representative of ANY group.

And most members of "groups" or "communities" don't like when people
make claims that they are representatives.

[Conzors]

A poster that I saw on DS would accuse you of “pretending to be gay” with that OP Conzors.

I can't remember their name again now though but it was funny.:joker:

Anyway I agree with you on Michelle, I'm not gay so it's probably not my place to say this but I'm going for it anyway, I feel that she uses the gay community as a way to big up her ego, and to further her career.

Why would they think i'm prefending to be gay? Lol

So basically you're making this assumption based on a tv show about drag queens that she is a judge on.

Do some research she has been a massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights for all gays.

She has never once said all gay men are drag queens or neither does she think that. She's been openly fighting for gay men and lesbians for 3 decades!

Some research should of been done by yourself before posting on such a serious subject and not basing a strong opinion on another reality show shes a part of seeing that's just a part of her media career.

I'm sorry op but you got this one wrong.

Le tme repeat myself MICHELLE HAS NEVER ONCE SAID SHE ONLY SUPPORTS DRAG QUEENS OR INSINUATED ALL GAYS ARE DRAG QUEENS. MICHELLE IS A SUPPORTER OF THE WHOLE GAY COMMUNITY! HER T-SHIRT REGARDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE LGBT SOCIETY SHOULD TELL YOU THAT

You're welcome :)
This isnt a forum about researching the 1980's. I'm going by what she has said in the house, one which is that Perez sets the gay community back 50 years (when what she represents is a very similer prospect) and another is how she was explaining why she's friends with Kav - 'because, you know, the gay thing' were her exact words, which is totally contradictive as she hates Perez so 'the gay thing' cannot be used to describe why you are friends with someone. She is full of inconsistancies.

I have respect her and have no doubt that she has done this work previously in order to support homosexuality etc, but she, personally represents the drag queen community, so being gay has nothing to do with that community.

[Mystic Mock]

They thought that any gay member that was attacking Michelle was “pretending to be gay” and that they was pretending so they could be “homophobic.”

[Winkie Expand]

Really? REALLY?!

Michelle Visage has made defending the rights of the LGBT community her life's work. You don't have to like her or necessarily care for having her as a representative, but everyone should respect and appreciate the work she has done and the work she continues to do for the community. Attempting to twist that into something negative for the sake of defending someone like Perez Hilton on a game show is more deplorable than anything you could ever accuse Michelle of doing.

[phku]

No One person is a representative of ANY group.

And most members of "groups" or "communities" don't like when people
make claims that they are representatives.

Oh yea? Any why don't you say this to Michelle's face? You're so two-faced it makes me sick.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why would they think i'm prefending to be gay? Lol


This isnt a forum about researching the 1980's. I'm going by what she has said in the house, one which is that Perez sets the gay community back 50 years (when what she represents is a very similer prospect) and another is how she was explaining why she's friends with Kav - 'because, you know, the gay thing' were her exact words, which is totally contradictive as she hates Perez so 'the gay thing' cannot be used to describe why you are friends with someone. She is full of inconsistancies.

I have respect her and have no doubt that she has done this work previously in order to support homosexuality etc, but she, personally represents the drag queen community, so being gay has nothing to do with that community.

I'm not even going to continue this debate.

Have a great day.

[Beso]

she is the mirror image of who she actually thinks she is...not cool or tolerant at all.

[InOne]

Yes I don't like the whole their struggle is my struggle bollocks. And why is she so desperate to finish above Perez? Does he not fit into her category of how a Gay person should behave? Maybe his self-confidence bothers her. It's like she think all Gay people are weak and need protecting by her. Her ego is insane, she really needs to get over herself.

[Vanessa]

Yes I don't like the whole their struggle is my struggle bollocks. And why is she so desperate to finish above Perez? Does he not fit into her category of how a Gay person should behave? Maybe his self-confidence bothers her. It's like she think all Gay people are weak and need protecting by her. Her ego is insane, she really needs to get over herself.

:clap2:

[sampvt]

What I thought was hilarious was the fact that Biggins actually thought she was a drag queen herself. Lou lou had to tell him she was actually a woman AND BIGGINS IS GAY, lol.

[ebandit]

Everyone is allowed to comment.
I'm gay, but not a drag queen yet im commenting on them
x


........today i'm in a gay mood and i see michelle in it for herself...........on

the backs of others

Mark

[-Sue-]

I didn't know of Michelle before CBB but on entrance was hoping she would be a fun filled feisty lady - but have to be honest she hasn't made me laugh at all I haven't heard much of who she is I know what she stands for/ fights for but that is really it. The rest I have seen has been mostly nasty comments about HMs usually behind their back not the HM I was hoping for a big dissapointment sorry

she spouts LGBT but she seems to show very little tolerance for others even to the point of calling perez 'that' I mean come on he is a person! When KH made her comment about 'It's a job' I didn't hear Michelle stand up for them either!

[Vanessa]

She was pathetic, crying last night. I wanna be in the final with my fwuends! URGH! What a letdown she is. Fiesty woman my arse! :nono:

[-Sue-]

She was pathetic, crying last night. I wanna be in the final with my fwuends! URGH! What a letdown she is. Fiesty woman my arse! :nono:

Exactly where is her fun filled character? is she able to have a laugh without it being at someone else's expense?

[Vanessa]

Exactly where is her fun filled character? is she able to have a laugh without it being at someone else's expense?

She finally realised it was the Perez Show! :joker:

[Liam-]

I'm not a fan of this whole 'representation of groups' malarkey, but if i had to be represented by anyone, I'd rather be represented by Michelle than that vile skip rat any day of the week.

[-Sue-]

She finally realised it was the Perez Show! :joker:

LOL so tempted to steal you sig :P

[-Sue-]

I'm not a fan of this whole 'representation of groups' malarkey, but if i had to be represented by anyone, I'd rather be represented by Michelle than that vile skip rat any day of the week.

Trying to guess the 'vile skip rat' um cami? :joker: we may need a guess the HM thread ;)

[Vanessa]

LOL so tempted to steal you sig :P

It's funny, isn't it? :joker:

[-Sue-]

It's funny, isn't it? :joker:

hehe I had to :D

[rubberface]

use [ img][ /img] but take out the spaces

you gif signature just makes me lol everytime :laugh:

[Lstan]

Michelle has been massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights and working to stop homophobia for all gays so that includes your friend. I don't think your friend would have a problem with a woman with the power of being in the public eye bringing such disgusting acts to the publics attention and getting something done about it.

That's 3 decades shes worked side by side with all members from the lgbt community.

She has touched on it briefly on the show aswell so it seems people just didn't pay attention.

The fact she got so upset with Perez was obvious she had been talking about it more but obviously with editing it wasn't shown that's why people will obviously come to the conclusion she was overreacting because they done know her history or what led up to that outburst in the diary room.

i think you need to re-read what i wrote, i am not attacking michelle nor did i say she doesnt do anything, like i literally say that at the end of my comment. if its touched on so briefly its no wonder many missed it-i am not the only one questioning it there have been a few other threads about this very topic. I also specifically say its in reference to whats been asked here-not how she is overall just whats been shown and discussed here.

i dont blame her for getting angry at perez, again that not what i said-what i said was wrong was saying hes setting back the movement 50 years with his actions in the house, thats a great insult to both those who have fought for lbgt rights and many watchers and...like how many times to i have to repeat it? i wonder how much of my reply you read before responding because its doesnt appear to b off anything i actually wrote.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

i think you need to re-read what i wrote, i am not attacking michelle nor did i say she doesnt do anything, like i literally say that at the end of my comment. if its touched on so briefly its no wonder many missed it-i am not the only one questioning it there have been a few other threads about this very topic. I also specifically say its in reference to whats been asked here-not how she is overall just whats been shown and discussed here.

i dont blame her for getting angry at perez, again that not what i said-what i said was wrong was saying hes setting back the movement 50 years with his actions in the house, thats a great insult to both those who have fought for lbgt rights and many watchers and...like how many times to i have to repeat it? i wonder how much of my reply you read before responding because its doesnt appear to b off anything i actually wrote.

Its LGBT.

Good day to you sir I am not in the mood to debate today but I thought I should correct you for future reference.

[the truth]

no one person represents the homosexual community just as no one person represents the hetrosexual community, it is spectacularly ignorant and arrogant of michelle to claim such a role and to claim all gay people must behave a certain way the way she deems fit. what a twat..........everyone is an individual regardless of their sexuality

[Liam-]

Trying to guess the 'vile skip rat' um cami? :joker: we may need a guess the HM thread ;)

Incorrect, Cami is a goddess of the highest tier.

[-Sue-]

Incorrect, Cami is a goddess of the highest tier.

cough cough :hehe: nearly choked on my coffee then!

[Deebo]

She's used the gay community for her own ends and given precious little back. Very few people in the gay community would consider her "representative", not least because she's not gay, but also because she endorses, enables and supports a professional homophobe, racist and bigot

[Lstan]

Its LGBT.

Good day to you sir I am not in the mood to debate today but I thought I should correct you for future reference.

lol attacking someone for a spelling mistake means you are really out of ideas and cant be bothered to address what i said. i do appreciate being corrected for spelling mistakes but not when its done to be condecending, you are not fooling anyone.

funnily enough i didnt diagree with anything you said. you cant seem to accept people who have different views from yours and apparently even those who share your views. but as we are in the sharing mood here :

debate
dɪˈbeɪt/
noun
noun: debate; plural noun: debates
a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

you have been using the term wrong so i thought i should correct you for future reference. Good day :wavey:

[the truth]

Incorrect, Cami is a goddess of the highest tier.

she is a gutter skank of the lowest order

[Lstan]

She's used the gay community for her own ends and given precious little back. Very few people in the gay community would consider her "representative", not least because she's not gay, but also because she endorses, enables and supports a professional homophobe, racist and bigot

do you mean katie hopkins or are you refering to someone else she supports?

[downthechippie]

Much better representive then Pratez

why does the 'gay community' need to have representatives? The 'straight communities' don't need reps. I find all this 'I represent' such and such very egotistical and quite frankly, homophobic in nature.

I mean, why segregate a section of society and make them a 'cause' or a 'special group'.

We are all people. Equality should mean just that. We are all equal.

And Michelle should get over herself and stop being such a prima dona for goodness sake!

[Conzors]

They thought that any gay member that was attacking Michelle was “pretending to be gay” and that they was pretending so they could be “homophobic.”

Thats the most RIDICULOUS thing ive ever heard haha x

I'm not even going to continue this debate.

Have a great day.

Oh no, your one of those people that cant stand it when people have opinions that differ to yours.

why does the 'gay community' need to have representatives? The 'straight communities' don't need reps. I find all this 'I represent' such and such very egotistical and quite frankly, homophobic in nature.

I mean, why segregate a section of society and make them a 'cause' or a 'special group'.

We are all people. Equality should mean just that. We are all equal.

And Michelle should get over herself and stop being such a prima dona for goodness sake!

Preachhhh

[Conzors]

Its LGBT.

Good day to you sir I am not in the mood to debate today but I thought I should correct you for future reference.

I thought you didnt want to be in the debate anymore because my opinion was different to yours?

You cant always be right, at least LStan is joining in with the debate because he actually has the brain to accept other peoples opinions...

...Good day to you.

[sarah2020]

I agree and dont get the fuss on Michelle, She hasnt really done anything other than say a few things about the gay movement and become katies forgettable side kick, which is a shame as I dont know her at all, and often forget she is even in there.

[Razor]

I don't see how your sexuality is the one and only way to define yourself as a person. As for Michelle I agree she doesn't represent the gay community and I feel as though she is using this for popularity.

[bots]

The reason Michelle doesn't represent anyone other than herself was made clear when she was concerned that she would finish in a lower final position than Perez. This would not enter the head of someone truly representing a community, she is only concerned with her own popularity

[elliebrew]

http://i.giphy.com/zMTKuTBWYODUA.gif

[Conzors]

I don't see how your sexuality is the one and only way to define yourself as a person. As for Michelle I agree she doesn't represent the gay community and I feel as though she is using this for popularity.

I Agree.

[Ninastar]

I dont think she's claimed that she does represent the gay community? She is passionate about them and she wouldn't have to talk about them if Perez wasn't such a bad example of a 'gay' little drama queen or w.e stereotype you want to call it.

[Conzors]

I dont think she's claimed that she does represent the gay community? She is passionate about them and she wouldn't have to talk about them if Perez wasn't such a bad example of a 'gay' little drama queen or w.e stereotype you want to call it.

How can you be passionate about people that are all different?
You can be passionate about equality and acceptance but you cant be passionate about gay people in general.

[Liam-]

How can you be passionate about people that are all different?
You can be passionate about equality and acceptance but you cant be passionate about gay people in general.

What, why can't you? :unsure:

[Ninastar]

How can you be passionate about people that are all different?
You can be passionate about equality and acceptance but you cant be passionate about gay people in general.

...what? lol

[Conzors]

What, why can't you? :unsure:

Because you cant be passionate about ALL gay people? Look at what Michelle thinks about Perez? I'm pretty sure that Michelle is not passionate about Perez.

She can be passionate (like the majority of us) about equality as a whole but not about one minority group as everyone is different.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

lol attacking someone for a spelling mistake means you are really out of ideas and cant be bothered to address what i said. i do appreciate being corrected for spelling mistakes but not when its done to be condecending, you are not fooling anyone.

funnily enough i didnt diagree with anything you said. you cant seem to accept people who have different views from yours and apparently even those who share your views. but as we are in the sharing mood here :

debate
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noun
noun: debate; plural noun: debates
a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

you have been using the term wrong so i thought i should correct you for future reference. Good day :wavey:

Nah just meant I had a hospital appointment to get to and couldn't be arsed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Because you cant be passionate about ALL gay people? Look at what Michelle thinks about Perez? I'm pretty sure that Michelle is not passionate about Perez.

She can be passionate (like the majority of us) about equality as a whole but not about one minority group as everyone is different.

Michelle is passionate about BASIC GAY RIGHTS aka basic human rights.

That doesn't mean she has to orgasm over every frigging gay person.

She simply doesn't like gay people being stereotyped as screaming, perverted, vile queens and I respect her for that and im sure most people on this forum in the past have complained that BB only cast the stereotypical gay so we obviously share the same feelings as Michelle.

And in response to your previous post I can accept others opinions and am a lovely, productive and generous forum member :)

[Conzors]

Michelle is passionate about BASIC GAY RIGHTS!

That doesn't mean she has to orgasm over every frigging gay person.

She simply doesn't like gay people being stereotyped as screaming, perverted, vile queens and I respect her for that.

And in response to your previous post I can accept others opinions and am a lovely, productive and generous forum member :)

So what is your explanation for her saying her liking of Kav was 'because you know, the gay thing'

?????

[sassysocks]

I am very fond of Michelle but you cannot say she represents the gay community as a whole!

Since when was it her role to present the gay community. Why do you feel the gay community needs people to represent them on BB? It's a game show, not a political rally. Lighten up!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So what is your explanation for her saying her liking of Kav was 'because you know, the gay thing'

?????

Maybe she's a homophobe :o

[Conzors]

Since when was it her role to present the gay community. Why do you feel the gay community needs people to represent them on BB? It's a game show, not a political rally. Lighten up!

I never said she said! She's the one that has said she does.

I do not believe in gay rights, or having a gay community or separate gay clubs. We're all human and should be treated as human, all of which is human rights - why segregate ourselves with separate gay clubs and separate rights.

Dont get me confused pls.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I never said she said! She's the one that has said she does.

I do not believe in gay rights, or having a gay community or separate gay clubs. We're all human and should be treated as human, all of which is human rights - why segregate ourselves with separate gay clubs and separate rights.

Dont get me confused pls.

"The one thing I wish for is....World peace".

Seriously if they make a Miss congeniality 3 you should defo audition.

[Conzors]

"The one thing I wish for is....World peace".

Seriously if they make a Miss congeniality 3 you should defo audition.

oh shush lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

oh shush lol

Mwah x

[Lstan]

Nah just meant I had a hospital appointment to get to and couldn't be arsed.


yeah yeah

but seriously tho I hope you are ok :blush:

[SaveUs]

Over the years especially recently on social media people have really been pushing LGBTAIA rights and in my experience it's made it easier to be more open about my sexuality. Same sex couples I know still have to go abroad or overseas to have their marriages recognised. So for me I appreciate it when people make a stand

I can't see inside Michelle head and I don't know if she does do it just for selfish recognition, the goodness from her own heart or a bit of both. She claims to have spent a lot of time around gay people and for me even if I was straight I'd still want to do something about the inequality I witness. Personally I feel it does more good than harm. Just my two cents

[Conzors]

Over the years especially recently on social media people have really been pushing LGBTAIA rights and in my experience it's made it easier to be more open about my sexuality. Same sex couples I know still have to go abroad or overseas to have their marriages recognised. So for me I appreciate it when people make a stand

I can't see inside Michelle head and I don't know if she does do it just for selfish recognition, the goodness from her own heart or a bit of both. She claims to have spent a lot of time around gay people and for me even if I was straight I'd still want to do something about the inequality I witness. Personally I feel it does more good than harm. Just my two cents

I agree with you to an extent.
Its good that people are pushing these 'rights' (even though there shouldnt even be gay rights because who you love is so irrelevant so it should all come under human rights) then its great.

I just dont like the connection she has with gay people and drag queens as their totally different, and people who are unaware of what being gay actually is (teenagers for example) will automatically link the two together, and that is what im NOT okay with.

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[Lstan]

I agree with you to an extent.
Its good that people are pushing these 'rights' (even though there shouldnt even be gay rights because who you love is so irrelevant so it should all come under human rights) then its great.

I just dont like the connection she has with gay people and drag queens as their totally different, and people who are unaware of what being gay actually is (teenagers for example) will automatically link the two together, and that is what im NOT okay with.

yes this is kinda what i was getting at but you have put it a lot more clearer than i did :blush:

[Conzors]

yes this is kinda what i was getting at but you have put it a lot more clearer than i did :blush:

go us :D

[Lstan]

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[Macie Lightfoot]

Michelle does not represent the gay community because Michelle is not gay, so