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Jake.
29-01-2015, 03:57 PM
Celebrity Big Brother 2015: Housemates row over Katie Price's disabled son




It certainly makes a change from arguments over bananas.

Seeds for the fight are sowed towards the start of the show as Katie Price talks about Katie Hopkins to the other Housemates. She is unhappy that Katie Hopkins thinks she doesn’t have an opinion and all she talks about is her family, and explains that it’s not nice when people “take the pi*s out of what I say” and that her family is her “ life and my world”.

Katie P goes on to admit, “What I’m hurt about, because I’ve been betrayed so much this year, I’m open to finding new friends. If you meet someone and think they’re your friend and yet again they’re still doing something behind your back, I’m not in to that at the minute…I know people are d**kheads about me in the outside world.

“I know people say stuff about me. It’s fine, I can accept that, but when you’ve given someone a chance and stuff, and I think ‘OK, you actually accept me and we’re alright’, and they’re not really, then that’s cruel”

Later on and the topic of Katie Price’s schooling arrangements comes up in a chat with Katie H.

Katie Price maintains “I don’t ponce off the government…I am very much entitled, if something is offered to me by the government, to take it. You should never judge anyone for it. I’d rather the government pays for my son to go to school than pay for fireworks over the River Thames on New Year’s Eve”

Katie Hopkins then tries to bring Keith into the conversation but he resists saying, “I don’t want to talk about it anymore because I will get angry”

The conversation then becomes heated and Keith retorts, “Don’t goad me… I’m not playing a game. I’ve come into this House to enjoy myself and be nice with everybody.

“Unfortunately you may not be able to do that, but I can and hopefully I’ve done that successfully…”

Katie Price maintains that she has “massive opinions” but she doesn’t choose to share them because “my opinions are not horrible”

Perez questions if Katie Hopkins thinks she is ever wrong and she quips, “Have I ever been wrong about anything? Yeah, I told Alicia she would stay”

Celebrity Big Brother 2015 airs from 9PM tonight on Channel 5.

Cherry Christmas
29-01-2015, 04:00 PM
Shup up Hopkins you know nothing about caring for a child with a disability so your opinion is null and void :bored:

Josy
29-01-2015, 04:01 PM
Well done to KP and Keith for telling her straight.

MB.
29-01-2015, 04:04 PM
Katie Hopkins then tries to bring Keith into the conversation but he resists saying, “I don’t want to talk about it anymore because I will get angry”

...and this is someone who asked why every conversation comes back to Keith? :umm2:

GiRTh
29-01-2015, 04:06 PM
Hopkins finds one weakness and exploits it.

sampvt
29-01-2015, 04:26 PM
I think its a bit sad that Pricey can only find her x's and sex plus now her family, to talk about it. My guess is that she thinks she is special because of Harvey and wont be afraid to use the little lad. She is not my fav person at the moment because she is using her family to gain brownie points and only has one target in the house Hoppo.

She knew Hoppo was the fav before she went in the house and is using that info to go for the prize. Its all a bit unfair and on her part desperate that she should bring her family up at every opportunity she can.

She very cleverly brought up the subject of Harvey yesterday knowing Hoppo would have a view and she brought her views up again today. All this is a plan for Pricey to discredit Hoppo but I think she might have shot herself in the foot because the GBP are not stupid.

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 04:28 PM
I think its a bit sad that Pricey can only find her x's and sex plus now her family, to talk about it. My guess is that she thinks she is special because of Harvey and wont be afraid to use the little lad. She is not my fav person at the moment because she is using her family to gain brownie points and only has one target in the house Hoppo.

She knew Hoppo was the fav before she went in the house and is using that info to go for the prize. Its all a bit unfair and on her part desperate that she should bring her family up at every opportunity she can.

She very cleverly brought up the subject of Harvey yesterday knowing Hoppo would have a view and she brought her views up again today. All this is a plan for Pricey to discredit Hoppo but I think she might have shot herself in the foot because the GBP are not stupid.

aw I think that's really unfair actually. From what I can see she's a fantastic mother to that child and most mothers talk about their kids alot, I know i do :shrug:

abhorson
29-01-2015, 04:29 PM
I think its a bit sad that Pricey can only find her x's and sex plus now her family, to talk about it. My guess is that she thinks she is special because of Harvey and wont be afraid to use the little lad. She is not my fav person at the moment because she is using her family to gain brownie points and only has one target in the house Hoppo.

She knew Hoppo was the fav before she went in the house and is using that info to go for the prize. Its all a bit unfair and on her part desperate that she should bring her family up at every opportunity she can.

She very cleverly brought up the subject of Harvey yesterday knowing Hoppo would have a view and she brought her views up again today. All this is a plan for Pricey to discredit Hoppo but I think she might have shot herself in the foot because the GBP are not stupid.


She is a bit mememe.

Jack The Cat
29-01-2015, 04:31 PM
I think its a bit sad that Pricey can only find her x's and sex plus now her family, to talk about it. My guess is that she thinks she is special because of Harvey and wont be afraid to use the little lad. She is not my fav person at the moment because she is using her family to gain brownie points and only has one target in the house Hoppo.

She knew Hoppo was the fav before she went in the house and is using that info to go for the prize. Its all a bit unfair and on her part desperate that she should bring her family up at every opportunity she can.

She very cleverly brought up the subject of Harvey yesterday knowing Hoppo would have a view and she brought her views up again today. All this is a plan for Pricey to discredit Hoppo but I think she might have shot herself in the foot because the GBP are not stupid.

Good post, in my opinion someone as rich (And she is very rich) as Katie P should not take any money from the government, doesn't matter if she is entitled to it. Services for people who are desperately in need have been cut. The government coffers are not some magic money tree. Does she pay tax yes, is she entitled to it, yes, should she take it, in my opinion not when she is sitting on £20 million plus.

Does it make her a bad Mother, of course not.

-Sue-
29-01-2015, 04:32 PM
I think its a bit sad that Pricey can only find her x's and sex plus now her family, to talk about it. My guess is that she thinks she is special because of Harvey and wont be afraid to use the little lad. She is not my fav person at the moment because she is using her family to gain brownie points and only has one target in the house Hoppo.

She knew Hoppo was the fav before she went in the house and is using that info to go for the prize. Its all a bit unfair and on her part desperate that she should bring her family up at every opportunity she can.

She very cleverly brought up the subject of Harvey yesterday knowing Hoppo would have a view and she brought her views up again today. All this is a plan for Pricey to discredit Hoppo but I think she might have shot herself in the foot because the GBP are not stupid.

Katie is very proud of her family (and so she should be) :D As all mums (and dads) are very proud of their kid's I see nothing wrong with it. :shrug:

I can agree that some of the sex talk makes me cringe (time and a place for most of that) but then in the house with nothing to do once they have discussed the wallpaper, fixtures and fittings weather there isn't much left but to talk about ones own life..

But then Cami has discussed sex in a way that makes me cringe too..

Inside the BB house = imagine a world without books, tv and internet! It's like the world has ended :joker:

sampvt
29-01-2015, 04:33 PM
aw I think that's really unfair actually. From what I can see she's a fantastic mother to that child and most mothers talk about their kids alot, I know i do :shrug:

Most mothers wouldn't talk about their kids on national tv disabled or not and defo not about the cost to run him to school on gov aided funds. Hardly a subject that a multi millionaire would broach, Not unless they had an ulterior motive. Food for thought eh.

bots
29-01-2015, 04:36 PM
If no one else is going to say it, I am. I think its pretty low of KH to make an issue out of a fellow hm's child, no matter what her views are. Its disgusting. Any decent human being would have moved on and picked another topic of conversation. Well done Keith for not getting dragged in to it.

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 04:38 PM
If no one else is going to say it, I am. I think its pretty low of KH to make an issue out of a fellow hm's child, no matter what her views are. Its disgusting. Any decent human being would have moved on and picked another topic of conversation. Well done Keith for not getting dragged in to it.

:worship:

sampvt
29-01-2015, 04:44 PM
If no one else is going to say it, I am. I think its pretty low of KH to make an issue out of a fellow hm's child, no matter what her views are. Its disgusting. Any decent human being would have moved on and picked another topic of conversation. Well done Keith for not getting dragged in to it.

Hoppo didn't drag it up, the kids mother did. When is Pricey going to realise we are sick of her self promotion. What does she want a friggin medal for her family being aired like dirty laundry.

She is acting despicably and deserves to be told off. She is playing a game and wants everyone to think that Hoppo is an evil person and she is using her disfuntional past and now her porr little disabled child to do it.

Hoppo has never asked her anything about her family, in fact nobody has, she volunteers all this crap all the time. What does she want, the sympathy vote or what. Who gives a toss whether her x husband likes stuff up his jacksie or how often she has been cheated on. Why doesent she look at why they are cheating on her in the first place.

FGS she has numerous books out on herself, every tabloid knows and publishes stuff on poor Harvey and that kids is one of the most recognisable kids in England. Leave the lad alone a fook off back to |Essex and talk **** about someone else to someone who actually wants to hear her crap, its past interesting now.

Lostie!
29-01-2015, 04:44 PM
aw I think that's really unfair actually. From what I can see she's a fantastic mother to that child and most mothers talk about their kids alot, I know i do :shrug:

Agreed. The suggestion that she "uses" him is appalling.

Many parents abandon children with severe disabilities. Katie Price has stuck by Harvey and clearly loves him dearly. Good on her for standing her ground, and shame on Hopkins for using this as something to attack her for.

sampvt
29-01-2015, 04:48 PM
Agreed. The suggestion that she "uses" him is appalling.

Many parents abandon children with severe disabilities. Katie Price has stuck by Harvey and clearly loves him dearly. Good on her for standing her ground, and shame on Hopkins for using this as something to attack her for.

Its one thing loving your kid but yet another constantly talking about him as if he is some kind of trophy she deserves to be congratulated for. Most families of disabled children chose to keep their kids out of the media spotlight, not pricey, she parades them like bling and I hate her for it as \I have a disabled grandson and it pains me to see twats like her bringing him up all the time.

Denver
29-01-2015, 04:49 PM
Its one thing loving your kid but yet another constantly talking about him as if he is some kind of trophy she deserves to be congratulated for. Most families of disabled children chose to keep their kids out of the media spotlight, not pricey, she parades them like bling and I hate her for it as \I have a disabled grandson and it pains me to see twats like her bringing him up all the time.

By her constantly talking about her disabled child helps other parents with theres

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 04:50 PM
Its one thing loving your kid but yet another constantly talking about him as if he is some kind of trophy she deserves to be congratulated for. Most families of disabled children chose to keep their kids out of the media spotlight, not pricey, she parades them like bling and I hate her for it as \I have a disabled grandson and it pains me to see twats like her bringing him up all the time.

She does not parade him around like bling ffs

Denver
29-01-2015, 04:50 PM
When it comes to KP dont bad mouth Harvey as she will kill you

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 04:52 PM
When it comes to KP dont bad mouth Harvey as she will kill you

and rightly so. I was never KPs biggest fan tbh but I always thought she was a good mother to those kids

Denver
29-01-2015, 04:58 PM
and rightly so. I was never KPs biggest fan tbh but I always thought she was a good mother to those kids

She is a good mother at i think its sad that because people dont like her they make things up like she is a bad mum or she only had her disabled son for publicity

Ellen
29-01-2015, 04:59 PM
and rightly so. I was never KPs biggest fan tbh but I always thought she was a good mother to those kids

Did KH say KP was a bad mother or is a follow on from the conversation they had the other day about paying for her sons travel?

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 05:00 PM
Did KH say KP was a bad mother or is a follow on from the conversation they had the other day about paying for her sons travel?

I never said KH said she was a bad mother :shrug:

Ellen
29-01-2015, 05:03 PM
I never said KH said she was a bad mother :shrug:

No i didnt say you had, it was a genuine question. Sorry if it came across wrong :flowers:

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:09 PM
I never said KH said she was a bad mother :shrug:

Neither did I , I simply stated facts and if you google Harvey, he is quite the little celebrity and a lovely lad. My point is he shouldn't be up there in the first place as he has better things to do than live his life in the media spotlight and if you don't believe me I could spend weeks sending you shots of him with his mum and reems of information out there given by his mum.

All this crap about her not being proud of him is tosh. How often do you hear about the other 4 kids that she loves though. Point proven and please don't hang the disgusting lable of disabled child hater at my doorstep, Ive done more for disabled children than all of this forum put together, ok.

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:09 PM
Did KH say KP was a bad mother or is a follow on from the conversation they had the other day about paying for her sons travel?

Its hard to say until we see it as we dont know the whole story just yet

erinp5
29-01-2015, 05:09 PM
Katie Price's mother has spoken out in the star's defence, after she sparked the ire of Katie Hopkins - and the public - when it was revealed she leans on taxpayers' money to care for her disabled son.

In an interview with The Sun, Amy Price, 62, has spoken of the difficulties her daughter faces in taking care of 12-year-old Harvey, whose daily taxi rides to school are paid for by the Government.

She said: 'It is so hurtful people can criticise my daughter for doing the best she can for Harvey. Katie Hopkins would never know how difficult having a disabled child can be.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2931085/Katie-Price-s-mother-Amy-defends-star-storm-criticism-disabled-son-Harvey-s-tax-funded-driver.html#ixzz3QEOcmkOX
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Vicky.
29-01-2015, 05:10 PM
Ugh, hopkins is totally wrong here. While I kinda share her opinion that price is taking the pee slightly with her income and such taking handouts from the government...no way would I labour the point like this.

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:11 PM
Neither did I , I simply stated facts and if you google Harvey, he is quite the little celebrity and a lovely lad. My point is he shouldn't be up there in the first place as he has better things to do than live his life in the media spotlight and if you don't believe me I could spend weeks sending you shots of him with his mum and reems of information out there given by his mum.

All this crap about her not being proud of him is tosh. How often do you hear about the other 4 kids that she loves though. Point proven and please don't hang the disgusting lable of disabled child hater at my doorstep, Ive done more for disabled children than all of this forum put together, ok.

She always mentions every child but Harvey will always be special to her for obvious circumstances

Ellen
29-01-2015, 05:12 PM
Its hard to say until we see it as we dont know the whole story just yet

Thanks, i thought this had been shown on the ch 5 website and i had missed it. Will probably be shown tonight. :)

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:12 PM
Ugh, hopkins is totally wrong here. While I kinda share her opinion that price is taking the pee slightly with her income and such taking handouts from the government...no way would I labour the point like this.

Its not Katie that is taking handouts it is her son and he is very much entitled to it

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:14 PM
Thanks, i thought this had been shown on the ch 5 website and i had missed it. Will probably be shown tonight. :)

The website never show the whole story imo

Vicky.
29-01-2015, 05:14 PM
Its not Katie that is taking handouts it is her son and he is very much entitled to it

She choses to take them, not him so I see it as her :shrug: Im not saying shes/hes not entitled to it as I said in the other thread..it just seems wrong when other disabled kids and such are getting their lives disrupted in the name of 'cuts' while millionaires are able to claim :S

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:16 PM
She choses to take them, not him so I see it as her :shrug: Im not saying shes/hes not entitled to it as I said in the other thread..it just seems wrong when other disabled kids and such are getting their lives disrupted in the name of 'cuts' while millionaires are able to claim :S

She has and will continue to pay more tax then me, you or any other average working person in the UK so there for she should be allowed to take back out to help care for her son

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:16 PM
She always mentions every child but Harvey will always be special to her for obvious circumstances

Sorry but bollocks.....Evidence teaches us that disabled children cant handle the media spotlight AT ALL and the best way to treat them IS BY TREATING THEM AS NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.

They are not disabled or unfortunate, they are gods special children and they always flourish when treated normally. I hardly think that a photo shoot at her mansion with all his toys and gismos for all to see, is the right thing to do.

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 05:16 PM
Neither did I , I simply stated facts and if you google Harvey, he is quite the little celebrity and a lovely lad. My point is he shouldn't be up there in the first place as he has better things to do than live his life in the media spotlight and if you don't believe me I could spend weeks sending you shots of him with his mum and reems of information out there given by his mum.

All this crap about her not being proud of him is tosh. How often do you hear about the other 4 kids that she loves though. Point proven and please don't hang the disgusting lable of disabled child hater at my doorstep, Ive done more for disabled children than all of this forum put together, ok.

Calling her a bad mother is unfair and out of order imo when from what I've ever seen of her, she always does the best she can for him. I have no idea why you think I'm labeling you a disabled child hater when it was the mother of the child you were attacking, also I have no idea what relevance what you may or may not have done for charity has either

Christmas Dynasnow
29-01-2015, 05:17 PM
I wonder why she does not move nearer the school?

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:19 PM
Sorry but bollocks.....Evidence teaches us that disabled children cant handle the media spotlight AT ALL and the best way to treat them IS BY TREATING THEM AS NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.

They are not disabled or unfortunate, they are gods special children and they always flourish when treated normally. I hardly think that a photo shoot at her mansion with all his toys and gismos for all to see, is the right thing to do.

I think this is a load of BS beacuse she is caught by the paps out with her kids or she posts picture on social media there is no bloody need to call her a bad mother and i think some peoples attitude towards this stinks

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:19 PM
Calling her a bad mother is unfair and out of order imo when from what I've ever seen of her, she always does the best she can for him. I have no idea why you think I'm labeling you a disabled child hater when it was the mother of the child you were attacking, also I have no idea what relevance what you may or may not have done for charity has either

Where have I called her a bad mother and its a pity that you should say that doing anything for charity is wrong.....you see how things can be twisted, now its time to drop this thread as its getting personal and way off topic. \my fund raising acts are my business and up to my conscience.

Vicky.
29-01-2015, 05:19 PM
She has and will continue to pay more tax then me, you or any other average working person in the UK so there for she should be allowed to take back out to help care for her son

Never said she wasnt allowed, I just take a dim view on people who take help when its not needed when others who do need the help are screwed over :shrug:

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:20 PM
I think this is a load of BS beacuse she is caught by the paps out with her kids or she posts picture on social media there is no bloody need to call her a bad mother and i think some peoples attitude towards this stinks

FFS I have never called her a bad MOTHER, just a bad PERSON, big difference.

Vicky.
29-01-2015, 05:20 PM
For the record too, I do think (from what I have seen) that shes an amazing mother. I do disagree with parading kids to the media, but thats both her and petes decision and I guess down to personal choice.

ChristmasNeeve
29-01-2015, 05:21 PM
Where have I called her a bad mother and its a pity that you should say that doing anything for charity is wrong.....you see how things can be twisted, now its time to drop this thread as its getting personal and way off topic. \my fund raising acts are my business and up to my conscience.

You're the one that brought them up not me.............twilight zone :shrug:

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:21 PM
I wonder why she does not move nearer the school?

Because its a special school and she also has to think off the over kids as there might not be a school close by also she need more help then just taxi to school

abhorson
29-01-2015, 05:22 PM
Katie Price's mother has spoken out in the star's defence, after she sparked the ire of Katie Hopkins - and the public - when it was revealed she leans on taxpayers' money to care for her disabled son.

In an interview with The Sun, Amy Price, 62, has spoken of the difficulties her daughter faces in taking care of 12-year-old Harvey, whose daily taxi rides to school are paid for by the Government.

She said: 'It is so hurtful people can criticise my daughter for doing the best she can for Harvey. Katie Hopkins would never know how difficult having a disabled child can be.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2931085/Katie-Price-s-mother-Amy-defends-star-storm-criticism-disabled-son-Harvey-s-tax-funded-driver.html#ixzz3QEOcmkOX
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There must be more from the mum. What does that small statement have to do with price of eggs?

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:23 PM
Never said she wasnt allowed, I just take a dim view on people who take help when its not needed when others who do need the help are screwed over :shrug:

I see it as a choice of helping a disabled child or funding a drug addicts addiction or sombody who cant be arsed to work

Kazanne
29-01-2015, 05:25 PM
Good God,have we even seen the scenario yet? looks like people have made their minds up already,that figures.I will wait and see or id this just the tail end of the convo the other night.people swearing and getting irate,just why?

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:25 PM
Because its a special school and she also has to think off the over kids as there might not be a school close by also she need more help then just taxi to school

Ok so everyomne in her manor is getting aid to send their kids to schools on a 100 mile trip with their own personal drivers and nurses. Well for a start, if he has his own driver as she stated, I would like to know how the cost of 1000 a day is reached or is that what she s charging the gov. Fooking graet job her driver has, 7000 quid a week less expenses like petrol and a silly hat.

Harvey gets a fooking paid for taxi, the driver bit is bollocks and pricey didn't think before she spoke. I

Vicky.
29-01-2015, 05:26 PM
I see it as a choice of helping a disabked child or funding a drug addicts addiction or sombody who cant be arsed to work
Really, you think those are the only options?! What about the other disabled kids who are having to move house due to the bedroom tax (and disabled people are NOT excluded as the government claims btw). About disabled adults/kids who are losing their dla entitlements because of cuts also...etc.

Kazanne
29-01-2015, 05:27 PM
I see it as a choice of helping a disabked child or funding a drug addicts addiction or sombody who cant be arsed to work

Or indeed another tit job or plastic surgery,imo IF you can afford it pay for stuff yourself and let some other poor unfortunate benefit from your tax money,as tbf we don't seem to mind paying for the likes oh White dee types.

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:27 PM
Ok so everyomne in her manor is getting aid to send their kids to schools on a 100 mile trip with their own personal drivers and nurses. Well for a start, if he has his own driver as she stated, I would like to know how the cost of 1000 a day is reached or is that what she s charging the gov. Fooking graet job her driver has, 7000 quid a week less expenses like petrol and a silly hat.

Harvey gets a fooking paid for taxi, the driver bit is bollocks and pricey didn't think before she spoke. I

The reason Katie needs a driver for Harvey is because he needs nurses with him so it all comes at a cost

Katie takes the other kids to school herself

I dont understand what your not getting?

bots
29-01-2015, 05:28 PM
Good God,have we even seen the scenario yet? looks like people have made their minds up already,that figures.I will wait and see or id this just the tail end of the convo the other night.people swearing and getting irate,just why?

My point was that KH didn't need to focus in on a housemates child as a topic of argument ... it seems to have taken its own life since then :shrug:

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:29 PM
Really, you think those are the only options?! What about the other disabled kids who are having to move house due to the bedroom tax (and disabled people are NOT excluded as the government claims btw). About disabled adults/kids who are losing their dla entitlements because of cuts also...etc.

Your missing the point in that id rather it go to someone who needs it then someone who dont need it they just abuse it

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:31 PM
The reason Katie needs a driver for Harvey is because he needs nurses with him so it all comes at a cost

Katie takes the other kids to school herself

I dont understand what your not getting?

your info is wrong. a nurse can go in a taxi mate, he doesent have a driver, that's crap. that katies gaff, she paralleled her trips to harveys and used the 1000 and the driver as a plug

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:32 PM
your info is wrong. a nurse can go in a taxi mate, he doesent have a driver, that's crap. that katies gaff, she paralleled her trips to harveys and used the 1000 and the driver as a plug

He needs special requirements within the car FGS

Kazanne
29-01-2015, 05:38 PM
My point was that KH didn't need to focus in on a housemates child as a topic of argument ... it seems to have taken its own life since then :shrug:

Maybe she was making conversation,maybe she was interested or maybe she is curious how someone with such wealth does that,we don't know,but it's telling to me that when people curse and get angry there is more than a bit of truth going on there.(not a pop at you btw) I just don't get the overreaction for people we don't even know:shrug:

Vicky.
29-01-2015, 05:42 PM
Your missing the point in that id rather it go to someone who needs it then someone who dont need it they just abuse it
And you are missing the point that I am making too tbh. Possibly as you are getting slightly hysterical at what you see as me putting katie price down. Which is not what I am doing at all. I dont doubt that she is entitled to help. I simply disagree with someone with her wealth getting it for something such as a taxi to school tbh...whilst others with nothing are having all of their help removed under the guise of 'cuts'. Shes not wrong for taking what offered, however they system is wrong to allow it in the first place. IMO of course.

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:42 PM
He needs special requirements within the car FGS

yes a seat is pretty unusual isn't it. he is able of limb, sight impaired, normally respertory and has dietary complications. in other words he can walk and move unaided but requires guidance. you make him sound like steven hawkins

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:44 PM
yes a seat is pretty unusual isn't it. he is able of limb, sight impaired, normally respertory and has dietary complications. in other words he can walk and move unaided but requires guidance. you make him sound like steven hawkins

You do realise sometimes he has to use a wheel chair? he also can kick off over the slightest of things so the nurses need space to advoid this happening

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:46 PM
You do realise sometimes he has to use a wheel chair? he also can kick off over the slightest of things so the nurses need space to advoid this happening

he has a chair at home and one at school, he does not need one in a fooking car

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:53 PM
he has a chair at home and one at school, he does not need one in a fooking car

I find your views preety dam disguisting and its quite obvious its all because you dislike her not any other BS you might what to bring up

GiRTh
29-01-2015, 05:55 PM
And you are missing the point that I am making too tbh. Possibly as you are getting slightly hysterical at what you see as me putting katie price down. Which is not what I am doing at all. I dont doubt that she is entitled to help. I simply disagree with someone with her wealth getting it for something such as a taxi to school tbh...whilst others with nothing are having all of their help removed under the guise of 'cuts'. Shes not wrong for taking what offered, however they system is wrong to allow it in the first place. IMO of course.This.

poppsywoppsy
29-01-2015, 05:55 PM
aw I think that's really unfair actually. From what I can see she's a fantastic mother to that child and most mothers talk about their kids alot, I know i do :shrug:

For a long time, Katie P only showed huge amounts love towards Harvey but fantastic mother is going a bit far.

No doubt she loves him and her other children, but her lifestyle, the unsuitable men she had in her house when her children were there were not that of a fantastic mother. Her flashing her huge bosom at every opportunity, her many many holidays leaving Harvey with his carers, Yes her work some of it but falling out of nightclubs half cut and her really nasty persona when married to Peter, were not the actions of a fantastic mother.

Wouldn't a multi millionaire mother provide all her sons needs, she could pay for his traveling expenses from the interest on her millions, or a tax refund, what other things are more important, Pink Range Rovers, designer tat, diamond rings but she doesn't want to pay for her own sons transport.

I would provide transport in a minute, I used to take my disabled little girl and a baby in a push chair on the bus for her physio and paid for it myself when we didn't have a car.

Katie Price is a grasper, it isn't what you put in, it is more like do you really need what you take out.

GiRTh
29-01-2015, 05:57 PM
For a long time, Katie P only showed huge amounts love towards Harvey but fantastic mother is going a bit far.

No doubt she loves him and her other children, but her lifestyle, the unsuitable men she had in her house when her children were there were not that of a fantastic mother. Her flashing her huge bosom at every opportunity, her many many holidays leaving Harvey with his carers, Yes her work some of it but falling out of nightclubs half cut and her really nasty persona when married to Peter, were not the actions of a fantastic mother.

Wouldn't a multi millionaire mother provide all her sons needs, she could pay for his traveling expenses from the interest on her millions, or a tax refund, what other things are more important, Pink Range Rovers, designer tat, diamond rings but she doesn't want to pay for her own sons transport.

I would provide transport in a minute, I used to take my disabled little girl and a baby in a push chair on the bus for her physio and paid for it myself when we didn't have a car.

Katie Price is a grasper, it isn't what you put in, it is more like do you really need what you take out.:clap1:

Says it all for me :joker:

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:58 PM
I find your views preety dam disguisting and its quite obvious its all because you dislike her not any other BS you might what to bring up

Ill forgive you for being rude but if you google Harveys ailments you might have a different view and just for the record. Katie said that she got funding because if she had to pay, it would cost her 1000 quid. She never mentioned that her driver drove Harvey and never said she got 1000 in aid. Everyone else seems to be shooting that line. my stance is simple, her private life should be exactly that, private. end of.

Amy Jade
29-01-2015, 05:59 PM
Katie Price gets money for Harvey?

Denver
29-01-2015, 05:59 PM
For a long time, Katie P only showed huge amounts love towards Harvey but fantastic mother is going a bit far.

No doubt she loves him and her other children, but her lifestyle, the unsuitable men she had in her house when her children were there were not that of a fantastic mother. Her flashing her huge bosom at every opportunity, her many many holidays leaving Harvey with his carers, Yes her work some of it but falling out of nightclubs half cut and her really nasty persona when married to Peter, were not the actions of a fantastic mother.

Wouldn't a multi millionaire mother provide all her sons needs, she could pay for his traveling expenses from the interest on her millions, or a tax refund, what other things are more important, Pink Range Rovers, designer tat, diamond rings but she doesn't want to pay for her own sons transport.

I would provide transport in a minute, I used to take my disabled little girl and a baby in a push chair on the bus for her physio and paid for it myself when we didn't have a car.

Katie Price is a grasper, it isn't what you put in, it is more like do you really need what you take out.

Why should she put millions in for people to bone idle to work and not be able to take it back out? She cant win either way

sampvt
29-01-2015, 05:59 PM
For a long time, Katie P only showed huge amounts love towards Harvey but fantastic mother is going a bit far.

No doubt she loves him and her other children, but her lifestyle, the unsuitable men she had in her house when her children were there were not that of a fantastic mother. Her flashing her huge bosom at every opportunity, her many many holidays leaving Harvey with his carers, Yes her work some of it but falling out of nightclubs half cut and her really nasty persona when married to Peter, were not the actions of a fantastic mother.

Wouldn't a multi millionaire mother provide all her sons needs, she could pay for his traveling expenses from the interest on her millions, or a tax refund, what other things are more important, Pink Range Rovers, designer tat, diamond rings but she doesn't want to pay for her own sons transport.

I would provide transport in a minute, I used to take my disabled little girl and a baby in a push chair on the bus for her physio and paid for it myself when we didn't have a car.

Katie Price is a grasper, it isn't what you put in, it is more like do you really need what you take out.

Thank god a great post for a change, well done.

Denver
29-01-2015, 06:02 PM
Ill forgive you for being rude but if you google Harveys ailments you might have a different view and just for the record. Katie said that she got funding because if she had to pay, it would cost her 1000 quid. She never mentioned that her driver drove Harvey and never said she got 1000 in aid. Everyone else seems to be shooting that line. my stance is simple, her private life should be exactly that, private. end of.

My view is any parent of disabled children no matter how wealthy they are should be entitled to help as it is best for the child needs

Denver
29-01-2015, 06:02 PM
Katie Price gets money for Harvey?

He gets it for his own needs

Amy Jade
29-01-2015, 06:03 PM
He gets it for his own needs

I'm not judging just I thought because she is like a millionaire she wouldn't get help?

sampvt
29-01-2015, 06:05 PM
My view is any parent of disabled children no matter how wealthy they are should be entitled to help as it is best for the child needs

FFS please tell me what you are drinking I think I need a glass of it. Where or when have I ever said she isn't entitled, of course she is but only for what the gov outlays, not for a private driver and a private nurse. He needs a taxi and a state registered carer not nigel mansel and Gregory house in a specially converted limo for his 50 mile 90 min journey.

sampvt
29-01-2015, 06:07 PM
I'm not judging just I thought because she is like a millionaire she wouldn't get help?

Ooh I wish I had your tact, :laugh: nice one

poppsywoppsy
29-01-2015, 06:07 PM
Ill forgive you for being rude but if you google Harveys ailments you might have a different view and just for the record. Katie said that she got funding because if she had to pay, it would cost her 1000 quid. She never mentioned that her driver drove Harvey and never said she got 1000 in aid. Everyone else seems to be shooting that line. my stance is simple, her private life should be exactly that, private. end of.

Katie Prices private?

She would go bankrupt:laugh:

Denver
29-01-2015, 06:09 PM
FFS please tell me what you are drinking I think I need a glass of it. Where or when have I ever said she isn't entitled, of course she is but only for what the gov outlays, not for a private driver and a private nurse. He needs a taxi and a state registered carer not nigel mansel and Gregory house in a specially converted limo for his 50 mile 90 min journey.

The chances are she made a rough figure as she doesnt have her paperwork in there with her

sampvt
29-01-2015, 06:13 PM
The chances are she made a rough figure as she doesnt have her paperwork in there with her

Yes a grand a day is pretty rough, even I didn't earn that much in my hayday. Poor her.

Listen.......lets get real here....you like her, I think she is a disaster as a role model and person, but its not worth falling out over because I actually like your posts and your views, especially those over Perez, so lets both agree to shelve this one and move on ....ok....kiss kiss. or a manly handshake and a wink.

What do you say.

Kizzy
29-01-2015, 06:13 PM
If the law says she's entitled to help then she gets help, if the law stated she earned too much money to have her sons needs met then fair enough but they don't.

MrWong
29-01-2015, 06:13 PM
Katie Hopkins then tries to bring Keith into the conversation but he resists saying, “I don’t want to talk about it anymore because I will get angry”

The conversation then becomes heated and Keith retorts, “Don’t goad me… I’m not playing a game. I’ve come into this House to enjoy myself and be nice with everybody.

“Unfortunately you may not be able to do that, but I can and hopefully I’ve done that successfully…”

Why would airing his views in a conversation about benefits get Keith angry? There's some suppressed issues going on there if he can't even have a heated discussion without resorting to anger. Desperate to maintain that Mr Nice Guy image.

Perez questions if Katie Hopkins thinks she is ever wrong and she quips, “Have I ever been wrong about anything? Yeah, I told Alicia she would stay”

:joker:

poppsywoppsy
29-01-2015, 06:25 PM
I think a means test could end this debate.

Many other people, pensioners, sick, housing benefits and other government grants are means tested and if this was too, there wouldn't be a problem.

Harvey is a minor, so the parents would be means tested not him. With a millionaire mother and father, of course they wouldn't qualify.

Of course Harvey is entitled to as much help as he needs but traveling so many hours a day to and from his school, cannot be the best for him.

Candy Annie Cane
29-01-2015, 06:27 PM
If the law says she's entitled to help then she gets help, if the law stated she earned too much money to have her sons needs met then fair enough but they don't.

:clap1:

My opinion won't be popular probably but if I, as she does, paid 40% tax on all my earnings to the government, I would be taking every bit back that I could.

Also, as for her having Harvey in the limelight, why not, she's not ashamed of him and he seems a perfectly happy boy in spite of his disabilities, I'd be more worried if she kept him hidde.

The Human Santapede
29-01-2015, 06:28 PM
By her constantly talking about her disabled child helps other parents with theres

Not often I agree with you but :clap1:

Rustic bauble
29-01-2015, 06:56 PM
For a long time, Katie P only showed huge amounts love towards Harvey but fantastic mother is going a bit far.

No doubt she loves him and her other children, but her lifestyle, the unsuitable men she had in her house when her children were there were not that of a fantastic mother. Her flashing her huge bosom at every opportunity, her many many holidays leaving Harvey with his carers, Yes her work some of it but falling out of nightclubs half cut and her really nasty persona when married to Peter, were not the actions of a fantastic mother.

Wouldn't a multi millionaire mother provide all her sons needs, she could pay for his traveling expenses from the interest on her millions, or a tax refund, what other things are more important, Pink Range Rovers, designer tat, diamond rings but she doesn't want to pay for her own sons transport.

I would provide transport in a minute, I used to take my disabled little girl and a baby in a push chair on the bus for her physio and paid for it myself when we didn't have a car.

Katie Price is a grasper, it isn't what you put in, it is more like do you really need what you take out.


Well said Popsy... It's amazing how people are quick to jump on people that call her a bad mother...(though people haven't critiqued her mothering more her behaviour as a mother)....but who are any of you to call her a good mother...how the hell do you know how much she does for him...for all we know she could leave it all to the hired hands. When she did her documentary married to Peter...every time Harvey appeared she kept asking him to tell her he loves her....it was so pretentious...everything to create the 'image' of the wonderful mother. She may well be a good mother but none of us can truly comment on that.
The point has been missed by many....it's nothing to do with motherhood...it's the way she uses situations to enhance her profile. I don't like her one little bit...she is a money grabbing tramp and I don't fall for her 'sweetness and light'..
I agree with Popsy...

Lostie!
29-01-2015, 07:00 PM
Well said Popsy... It's amazing how people are quick to jump on people that call her a bad mother...(though people haven't critiqued her mothering more her behaviour as a mother)....but who are any of you to call her a good mother...how the hell do you know how much she does for him...for all we know she could leave it all to the hired hands. When she did her documentary married to Peter...every time Harvey appeared she kept asking him to tell her he loves her....it was so pretentious...everything to create the 'image' of the wonderful mother. She may well be a good mother but none of us can truly comment on that.
The point has been missed by many....it's nothing to do with motherhood...it's the way she uses situations to enhance her profile. I don't like her one little bit...she is a money grabbing tramp and I don't fall for her 'sweetness and light'..
I agree with Popsy...

So, we can't comment on whether she's a good mother, but making unfounded suggestions like "for all we know she could leave it all to the hired hands" and "it was so pretentious...everything to create the 'image' of the wonderful mother" is fine?

Rustic bauble
29-01-2015, 07:06 PM
So, we can't comment on whether she's a good mother, but making unfounded suggestions like "for all we know she could leave it all to the hired hands" and "it was so pretentious...everything to create the 'image' of the wonderful mother" is fine?


Yes... I said 'for all we know...' That's not saying she IS...mine is a suggestion but I am not saying it's true. Those that say she is a good mother...I would like to know how they can state that as a fact.

Lostie!
29-01-2015, 07:09 PM
Yes... I said 'for all we know...' That's not saying she IS...mine is a suggestion but I am not saying it's true. Those that say she is a good mother...I would like to know how they can state that as a fact.

You stated that she was trying to "create the image of a perfect mother" as a fact. Can you back that up?

Jules2
29-01-2015, 07:25 PM
The trouble is the Health Service, Government etc. etc. seems to be in such a bad state that if it is all taken away, Katie P. will be able to pay but the likes of the poorer people will be struggling so whilst she may be entitled she could possibly contribute to help the funds.

As I said somewhere I am retired but for the last 12 years my husband and I have been bringing up two grandchildren. All I ever asked for to begin with was free school dinners but couldnt get it as my husband has a separate pension. If we were working we could have got working tax credit, this would have given us the right to free school dinners.......the mind boggles.

The eldest is now at college but other than a free bus pass we have to pay for everything. We get family credit which I expect Katie P does as well? I guess we are means tested.

I think she seems to have been a good mother but I am not particularly keen on her.

Cherry Christmas
29-01-2015, 07:29 PM
...and this is someone who asked why every conversation comes back to Keith? :umm2:

:laugh: love it

Cherry Christmas
29-01-2015, 07:31 PM
The trouble is the Health Service, Government etc. etc. seems to be in such a bad state that if it is all taken away, Katie P. will be able to pay but the likes of the poorer people will be struggling so whilst she may be entitled she could possibly contribute to help the funds.

As I said somewhere I am retired but for the last 12 years my husband and I have been bringing up two grandchildren. All I ever asked for to begin with was free school dinners but couldnt get it as my husband has a separate pension. If we were working we could have got working tax credit, this would have given us the right to free school dinners.......the mind boggles.

The eldest is now at college but other than a free bus pass we have to pay for everything. We get family credit which I expect Katie P does as well? I guess we are means tested.

I think she seems to have been a good mother but I am not particularly keen on her.

I think the difference is neither of your grandchlidren have a disability Jules, KP won't get family credit as her earnings would be over the threshold

DemolitionRed
29-01-2015, 07:47 PM
Most mothers wouldn't talk about their kids on national tv disabled or not and defo not about the cost to run him to school on gov aided funds. Hardly a subject that a multi millionaire would broach, Not unless they had an ulterior motive. Food for thought eh.

Hopkins was the person who initially brought that subject up wit Pricey. I'm not surprised Pricey brought that subject back to the surface. If I were her I'd be ******ing livid.

Miranda123
29-01-2015, 07:53 PM
I think its a bit sad that Pricey can only find her x's and sex plus now her family, to talk about it. My guess is that she thinks she is special because of Harvey and wont be afraid to use the little lad. She is not my fav person at the moment because she is using her family to gain brownie points and only has one target in the house Hoppo.

She knew Hoppo was the fav before she went in the house and is using that info to go for the prize. Its all a bit unfair and on her part desperate that she should bring her family up at every opportunity she can.

She very cleverly brought up the subject of Harvey yesterday knowing Hoppo would have a view and she brought her views up again today. All this is a plan for Pricey to discredit Hoppo but I think she might have shot herself in the foot because the GBP are not stupid.

not like me not to agree with you sam lol

I dont like KP but the one thing I do admire about her is that she is very family orientated, keeping her family around her all the time, mother,brother, sister etc
I also admire the fact that she looks after a disabled child, cause I couldnt, and not because Im a lazy cow, or selfish, but because it would upset me so much every day to see my child suffering that Id fall apart
The fact that she does it (and I know she has money but that can NEVER compensate) makes me admire her

But in the house.................she's been a damp squib

Kizzy
29-01-2015, 08:11 PM
Yes... I said 'for all we know...' That's not saying she IS...mine is a suggestion but I am not saying it's true. Those that say she is a good mother...I would like to know how they can state that as a fact.

What constitutes a 'good mother'?

Dollface
29-01-2015, 08:16 PM
not like me not to agree with you sam lol

I dont like KP but the one thing I do admire about her is that she is very family orientated, keeping her family around her all the time, mother,brother, sister etc
I also admire the fact that she looks after a disabled child, cause I couldnt, and not because Im a lazy cow, or selfish, but because it would upset me so much every day to see my child suffering that Id fall apart
The fact that she does it (and I know she has money but that can NEVER compensate) makes me admire her

But in the house.................she's been a damp squib

Completely agree with all of this

sampvt
29-01-2015, 08:17 PM
not like me not to agree with you sam lol

I dont like KP but the one thing I do admire about her is that she is very family orientated, keeping her family around her all the time, mother,brother, sister etc
I also admire the fact that she looks after a disabled child, cause I couldnt, and not because Im a lazy cow, or selfish, but because it would upset me so much every day to see my child suffering that Id fall apart
The fact that she does it (and I know she has money but that can NEVER compensate) makes me admire her

But in the house.................she's been a damp squib

I like it when people disagree, it shows they are opinionated, especially when the do it without vitriolic intent. Your ok Kiddo and I cant get upset at you.

Rustic bauble
29-01-2015, 08:30 PM
You stated that she was trying to "create the image of a perfect mother" as a fact. Can you back that up?


Well I watched the series and the amount of times she appeared on the screen with Harvey constantly asking him to say he loved her was nauseating and uncomfortable to watch....those are my facts.

Lostie!
29-01-2015, 08:32 PM
Well I watched the series and the amount of times she appeared on the screen with Harvey constantly asking him to say he loved her was nauseating and uncomfortable to watch....those are my facts.

Nothing about that makes "she was trying to create the image of a perfect mother" a fact. That's your opinion, nothing more.

Denver
29-01-2015, 08:33 PM
Well I watched the series and the amount of times she appeared on the screen with Harvey constantly asking him to say he loved her was nauseating and uncomfortable to watch....those are my facts.

Isnt thats what all mothers do?

user104658
29-01-2015, 08:52 PM
It's a bit of a weird one this - I can't say I disagree with Hopkins, really, but she pushes the point too far in the name of "point scoring"... she could / should simply say that she thinks those sort of benefits should be means tested and leave it at that. It's a flaw with the system, really, which Katie Price as far as I'm aware doesn't have any say in.

On the other hand, my youngest daughter is on the autistic spectrum, and may well need additional help when she reaches school age, not really possible to know as she's only 2.5. She's "high functioning" (potentially aspergers), not heavily disabled like Harvey, and may well be fully able to go to "normal" school by the time she's 5, but there's a chance that she won't in which case it's likely that we'll be getting various "handouts" for her.

However, I can say with absolute certainty that if we were multi-millionaires, I wouldn't claim a penny of that money even if we were still "entitled to it".

Rustic bauble
29-01-2015, 08:53 PM
Nothing about that makes "she was trying to create the image of a perfect mother" a fact. That's your opinion, nothing more.

Well she isn't going to have cameras follow her around and create the image of a bad one is she??....it's all put on for the cameras IMO because she wasn't natural with them. Everything that comes out of her mouth is me me me....she is fake... If she really had any thought for her children she would not behave the way she does. Her trashy sex talk...trashing her exes and present husband...exposing those poor kids to ridicule. She should be ashamed. If she had come on the show and shown a personality...talked about life rather than her trashy one...have a discussion. Such a worldly wise business woman really has little conversation to offer without taking it to a low level.

sampvt
29-01-2015, 08:57 PM
Well she isn't going to have cameras follow her around and create the image of a bad one is she??....it's all put on for the cameras IMO because she wasn't natural with them. Everything that comes out of her mouth is me me me....she is fake... If she really had any thought for her children she would not behave the way she does. Her trashy sex talk...trashing her exes and present husband...exposing those poor kids to ridicule. She should be ashamed. If she had come on the show and shown a personality...talked about life rather than her trashy one...have a discussion. Such a worldly wise business woman really has little conversation to offer without taking it to a low level.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Rustic bauble
29-01-2015, 08:58 PM
Isnt thats what all mothers do?


I tell my kids I love them and they tell me back or vice versa....I never used to ask them and then tell them to tell me. I wanted them to want to say it...not forced to...otherwise it's doesn't mean anything.

sampvt
29-01-2015, 09:00 PM
I tell my kids I love them and they tell me back or vice versa....I never used to ask them and then tell them to tell me. I wanted them to want to say it...not forced to...otherwise it's doesn't mean anything.

exactly

Kizzy
29-01-2015, 09:14 PM
He has sensory issues, how does anyone know that isn't just the norm in their interactions?
I feel it's wrong to label someone for one perceived 'error' in their mothering, it's the holier than thou attitude of her detractors that has always riled me.
Walk a mile... then judge.

Denver
29-01-2015, 09:17 PM
I tell my kids I love them and they tell me back or vice versa....I never used to ask them and then tell them to tell me. I wanted them to want to say it...not forced to...otherwise it's doesn't mean anything.

You do understand Harvey is a disabled child and needs to be helped with what he says

Angelika
29-01-2015, 09:17 PM
Good post, in my opinion someone as rich (And she is very rich) Does she pay tax yes, is she entitled to it, yes, should she take it, in my opinion not when she is sitting on £20 million plus.

Does it make her a bad Mother, of course not.

That's should be around £40,000 000.00 according to other sources.

Candy Annie Cane
29-01-2015, 09:19 PM
He has sensory issues, how does anyone know that isn't just the norm in their interactions?
I feel it's wrong to label someone for one perceived 'error' in their mothering, it's the holier than thou attitude of her detractors that has always riled me.
Walk a mile... then judge.

:clap1: He is also I believe on the autistic spectrum and a common aspect of that is having difficulty in expressing emotion and interacting....maybe she was stimulating his emotions. As Kizzy said, we are not privy to all their interactions or Harvey's specific issues.

user104658
29-01-2015, 09:35 PM
I agree that prompting someone with communication issues on speech is fine and normal... howeverrr... my partner used to watch her show back in the Peter Andre days (and I maybe kinda sorta watched it with her!) and she did the same with her other two children (Love yooou, do you love mummy? Say you love mummy!), both of whom are neurotypical.

It doesn't make her a bad person of course but it is a bit emotionally needy - but then, that's not surprising in someone who has forged a huge career out of being in the spotlight. It wouldn't be a massive stretch to assume that she is the type of person who craves affection / attention / acknowledgement... and her various relationships seem to back that up.

Nonetheless, it is still an assumption, no one knows all of the ins 'n' outs of her personal relationships. Then again most of what we DO know comes directly from her via various shows / autobiographies sooo if the information is incorrect... it hasn't come from anyone but her :shrug:.