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Denver
30-01-2015, 09:39 PM
He should have been removed

he said he will shove his dick up his arse

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:40 PM
that's TWO warnings, anyone else would have been removed, he's disgusting :bored:

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:41 PM
OMG I am disgusted by what Perez said, that was utterly vile.

bots
30-01-2015, 09:41 PM
how many warnings is this guy going to get before being booted out

Benjamin
30-01-2015, 09:41 PM
Oh dear god, he didn;t threaten to rape him

Josy
30-01-2015, 09:42 PM
When was this and btw that's a pretty serious accusation.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:42 PM
The desperation to stop Perez winning is hilarious! :joker:

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:42 PM
Oh dear god, he didn;t threaten to rape him

If a guy shouted he was going to shove his dick up me I would feel threatened and disgusted.

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:42 PM
Oh dear god, he didn;t threaten to rape him

So threating to shove your dick inside someone in a argument is not threating rape?

Jack The Cat
30-01-2015, 09:42 PM
No more silly warnings please, should be saved for real things.

Mystic Mock
30-01-2015, 09:43 PM
I don't remember him saying this so this is defamation of someone's character, do be careful because if his PR team sees this they will sue you for it.

MojoNixon
30-01-2015, 09:43 PM
Perez out ASAP.

Brother Leon
30-01-2015, 09:43 PM
When was this and btw that's a pretty serious accusation.

Callum said he should stop playing the Dick as he's good at it and Perez told him "I'll put it in your ass".

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 09:43 PM
He should have been removed

he said he will shove his dick up his arse

Effing awful dickhead

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:43 PM
When was this and btw that's a pretty serious accusation.

It was on BOTS he was warned but he should have been removed

bots
30-01-2015, 09:43 PM
When was this and btw that's a pretty serious accusation.

just been on bots and he got a formal warning, said he was going to shove his huge dick up calums **** ... and it was said aggressively

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:44 PM
When was this and btw that's a pretty serious accusation.

On BOTS

Calum and Perez were arguing and Calum told Perez to stop being a dick and Perez shouted 3 or 4 times he would shove his dick up his arse. Calum told him not to speak to him like that and he kept saying it.

fitz2k2
30-01-2015, 09:44 PM
bet you million dollars if alexander said that he would be removed but due to rating there keeping perez in

abhorson
30-01-2015, 09:45 PM
Perez is sick. Nadia should have stayed.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:45 PM
No more silly warnings please, should be saved for real things.

Quiet, the hysteria is unreal :laugh:

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:45 PM
I don't remember him saying this so this is defamation of someone's character, do be careful because if his PR team sees this they will sue you for it.

He said it on BOTS and i changed it to what he actually said

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:46 PM
The desperation to stop Perez winning is hilarious! :joker:

The desperation to defend his every action became desperate a while ago.

Benjamin
30-01-2015, 09:46 PM
The desperation to defend his every action became desperate a while ago.

No because Perez didn't say he would rape him.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:46 PM
On BOTS

Calum and Perez were arguing and Calum told Perez to stop being a dick and Perez shouted 3 or 4 times he would shove his dick up his arse. Calum told him not to speak to him like that and he kept saying it.

:umm2: after Calum called Perez a huge dick lets not forget

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:47 PM
:umm2: after Calum called Perez a huge dick lets not forget

:clap1:

bots
30-01-2015, 09:47 PM
he got a formal warning ... that says it was unacceptable ... end of

Ant.
30-01-2015, 09:47 PM
The desperation to stop Perez winning is hilarious! :joker:

I don't see how it's desperate calling him out on threatening to rape someone?

zakman440
30-01-2015, 09:47 PM
Oh please, it was hardly a threat of rape. Calum said that Perez should stop playing the dick and Perez said that he'd 'shove it up his ass'. Calum then procceded to get aggressive so he should have got a warning as well or instead of Perez imo.

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:47 PM
The desperation to stop Perez winning is hilarious! :joker:

he isn't going to win anyway :umm2:

Pink Pegasus
30-01-2015, 09:48 PM
When was this and btw that's a pretty serious accusation.

On BOTS news just now, they showed an argument between Calum and Perez. They were fighting about Calum turning of the lights when Perez wasn't ready to go to bed last night.

Calum was walking away saying "fine, you continue being the dick then", Perez said "I will, I'll be a huge dick!" Calum went into the bedroom.Perez still shouting said, "I'll shove it up your ass"
Cue Calum coming storming back furious "what did you say to me?!"
Perez: "I'll shove it up your fcuking ass!!"

Cami pushed Calum back into bedroom.

It then shot to Perez getting a formal warning from BB.

He was still angry and completely unapologetic though.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:48 PM
he isn't going to win anyway :umm2:

I think he can win and BB is trying to stop it.

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:48 PM
:umm2: after Calum called Perez a huge dick lets not forget

So if if someone calls someone a dick they deserve to be threatened with sexual voilence?

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:49 PM
I think he can win and BB is trying to stop it.

maybe you shouldn't think hun

sampvt
30-01-2015, 09:49 PM
The desperation to stop Perez winning is hilarious! :joker:

No the desperation to defend him is the hilarious thing here.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:49 PM
maybe you shouldn't think hun

He's second in the tellymix poll. Of course he can win!

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 09:49 PM
The desperation to defend his every action became desperate a while ago.

Clocked,I love you Amy :joker::joker::joker::joker:

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:49 PM
No because Perez didn't say he would rape him.

I would take the same being shouted at me as a threat and I would be scared and upset by it. Threatening to force his penis into somebody without their consent is a threat of rape in my opinion.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:50 PM
So if if someone calls someone a dick they deserve to be threatened with sexual voilence?

The context darling it's all in in the context

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:50 PM
I think he can win and BB is trying to stop it.

I find it scary you and all of the Perez fans find this behaviour acceptable and amusing

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:51 PM
Clocked,I love you Amy :joker::joker::joker::joker:

You know the meaning of clocked now Kaz :laugh:

Patricia4
30-01-2015, 09:51 PM
I thought Calum was going to get him he was very vexed and then Nadia said Katie Hopkins started the row when talking about it on BOTS what's this women on.
Katie didn't tell him to say to Calum I will shove my dick up your arse.

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:51 PM
The context darling it's all in in the context

He said he would shove his dick in someone in a argument how is it taken out of context?

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I find it amusing the way Perez accepts his apology from BB:)

I think he said it in the way someone would say "you can stick your apology up your ass" i really don't think he threatened rape.......oh the hysteria!

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I find it scary you and all of the Perez fans find this behaviour acceptable and amusing

Was there ever a suggestion of rape? Did you feel worried for Calum's safety?

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
The context darling it's all in in the context

It was clearly said in an aggressive and threatening manner. Did you see it or blindly defending him?

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I find it amusing the way Perez accepts his apology from BB:)

I think he said it in the way someone would say "you can stick your apology up your ass" i really don't think he threatened rape.......oh the hysteria!

That's the way i saw it.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I find it amusing the way Perez accepts his apology from BB:)

I think he said it in the way someone would say "you can stick your apology up your ass" i really don't think he threatened rape.......oh the hysteria!

:clap1:

Babayaro.
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I find it amusing the way Perez accepts his apology from BB:)

I think he said it in the way someone would say "you can stick your apology up your ass" i really don't think he threatened rape.......oh the hysteria!

I agree with this 100%

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 09:52 PM
He actually said "I will shove my very large dick up your ass"

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:53 PM
Was there ever a suggestion of rape? Did you feel worried for Calum's safety?

How the hell is threating to shove your dick up someone who cleary doesnt want it threatened as rape?

bots
30-01-2015, 09:53 PM
There are some things that decent people will not say to each other, that is one of them. No excuses can be made for it

Brother Leon
30-01-2015, 09:53 PM
I would take the same being shouted at me as a threat and I would be scared and upset by it. Threatening to force his penis into somebody without their consent is a threat of rape in my opinion.

I get your point tbf, but he didn't shout it until Callum came up to him with the big hard man "hold me back" move. Until then it was just a throwaway comeback that was hardly threatening imo. I think the warning was fair in the end.

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 09:54 PM
He actually said "I will shove my very large dick up your ass"

But according to Katy it's very tiny, and i think Calum would bitch slap him in a second:hehe:

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:54 PM
It was clearly said in an aggressive and threatening manner. Did you see it or blindly defending him?

I saw it, why would I comment it if I hadn't seen it?

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:54 PM
Oh it counts as a threat ONLY if KH had said it:smug:

If she had have said it I would refuse to defend her, it was vulgar and said with sheer aggression.

Denver
30-01-2015, 09:55 PM
I saw it, why would I comment it if I hadn't seen it?

Because your a fan you are making him the victim if he would of said that outside the house he would be knockout by anyone who he said it too

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:56 PM
He's second in the tellymix poll. Of course he can win!

there's 280 votes in that poll =/= representative of the viewing and voting public seeing as perez was bottom two when he was up last week

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:57 PM
How the hell is threating to shove your dick up someone who cleary doesnt want it threatened as rape?

You are demeaning rape, there was no intention end of

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 09:57 PM
The context darling it's all in in the context


Yeah, I've heard people say stick it up your arse a million times before when they're annoyed with someone. I do think him getting a warning was right though

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:57 PM
there's 280 votes in that poll =/= representative of the viewing and voting public seeing as perez was bottom two when he was up last week

He's still there, so he has as much chance as the others.

sampvt
30-01-2015, 09:57 PM
What if Callum said it to Cami, he would be out, that's not fair

Jules2
30-01-2015, 09:57 PM
I don't remember him saying this so this is defamation of someone's character, do be careful because if his PR team sees this they will sue you for it.

It has just been shown on BOTS.

LPK
30-01-2015, 09:57 PM
It's particularly ironic that Perez started off acting like the moral saviour of the house, including going on a crusade to make sure Ken got kicked out for his inappropriate comments about women.

And yet, here we are now with this type of behaviour. If Perez felt threatened by Ken making comments about watching women shower, how could be possibly justify his own comments?

The hypocrisy is very enlightening.

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:58 PM
He's still there, so he has as much chance as the others.

he really doesn't :joker:

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:58 PM
Yeah, I've heard people say stick it up your arse a million times before when they're annoyed with someone. I do think him getting a warning was right though

Yes, i must have said it so many times at work! :laugh:

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 09:58 PM
he really doesn't :joker:

He has more chance than some of the others.

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:58 PM
Yeah, I've heard people say stick it up your arse a million times before when they're annoyed with someone. I do think him getting a warning was right though

there's a bit of a difference between stick it up your ass, and i will stick my dick up your ass

Cherie
30-01-2015, 09:58 PM
Because your a fan you are making him the victim if he would of said that outside the house he would be knockout by anyone who he said it too

Where did I say he was a victim? There was no intention and if you honestly think there was the so be it

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 09:58 PM
He should not have said it but Calum was throwing the first insults to be fair too.

It was however right he got a warning in my view because to some viewers I guess offence would or could be taken although had Calum said it to him, I doubt there would have been much of a fuss made on here as to that.

I liked on bbbots when they showed the clip,that Nadia said what BB hadn't shown in that was that Katie Hopkins was the instigator of the argument in the first place.
So as ever selective presentation from BB.

Totally right,in this highly charged house,that Perez got warned for it,you do get several warnings often on BB, the 'final' warning is the one that usually could see you removed.
It was dealt with.

However ,it now seems several housemates are also going on as to how Katie Hopkins sneaks around saying right and also wrong things about others,she has been aggressive,she has threatened and even set about 'organising' the ostracising of a housemate.
Just when will this get addressed and her get some warnings too, from what I have seen she equally possibly should be not be there now for her actions.

It is an explosive house and explosive things happen like this,in the last CBB Gary was pulled up for a comment he made to James Jordan.
How do we want to see the house really,do we want it to be like Mary Poppins or actually be looking in on a group of people who may or may not do and say things we like or hate.

As long as no one gets physically attacked then the time this show is on, just let it play out,good times, bad times, arguments, warts and all.

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I've heard people say stick it up your arse a million times before when they're annoyed with someone. I do think him getting a warning was right though

But he never said 'oh stick it up your arse' he said repeatedly and in in a threatening manner 'I will shove my dick up your arse'.

sampvt
30-01-2015, 09:59 PM
Yes, i must have said it so many times at work! :laugh:

So you go to work with a strap on eh, mmmmm, interesting.

Smithy
30-01-2015, 09:59 PM
He has more chance than some of the others.

:joker::joker:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:00 PM
Where did I say he was a victim? There was no intention and if you honestly think there was the so be it

All his fans saying Calum was in the wrong when he wasnt

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:00 PM
What if Callum said it to Cami, he would be out, that's not fair

Spot on Sam

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:00 PM
He should not have said it but Calum was throwing the first insults to be fair too.

It was however right he got a warning in my view because to some viewers I guess offence would or could be taken although had Calum said it to him, I doubt there would have been much of a fuss made on here as to that.

I liked on bbbots when they showed the clip,that Nadia said what BB hadn't shown in that was that Katie Hopkins was the instigator of the argument in the first place.
So as ever selective presentation from BB.

Totally right,in this highly charged house,that Perez got warned for it,you do get several warnings often on BB, the 'final' warning is the one that usually could see you removed.
It was dealt with.

However ,it now seems several housemates are also going on as to how Katie Hopkins sneaks around saying right and also wrong things about others,she has been aggressive,she has threatened and even set about 'organising' the ostracising of a housemate.
Just when will this get addressed and her get some warnings too, from what I have seen she equally possibly should be not be there now for her actions.

It is an explosive house and explosive things happen like this,in the last CBB Gary was pulled up for a comment he made to James Jordan.
How do we want to see the house really,do we wnat it to be like Mary Poppins or actually be looking in on a group of people who may or may not do and say things we like or hate.

As long as no one gets physically attacked then the time this show is on, just let it play out,good times, bad times, arguments, warts and all.

:worship:

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:01 PM
there's a bit of a difference between stick it up your ass, and i will stick my dick up your ass


Yes there is and the warning was right, I'm just saying it's not a million miles away from someone's saying that

MojoNixon
30-01-2015, 10:02 PM
Yeah, I've heard people say stick it up your arse a million times before when they're annoyed with someone. I do think him getting a warning was right though

What if i said it to you?

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:02 PM
But he never said 'oh stick it up your arse' he said repeatedly and in in a threatening manner 'I will shove my dick up your arse'.


Yeah I know I saw the clip

Jules2
30-01-2015, 10:03 PM
He should not have said it but Calum was throwing the first insults to be fair too.

It was however right he got a warning in my view because to some viewers I guess offence would or could be taken although had Calum said it to him, I doubt there would have been much of a fuss made on here as to that.

I liked on bbbots when they showed the clip,that Nadia said what BB hadn't shown in that was that Katie Hopkins was the instigator of the argument in the first place.
So as ever selective presentation from BB.

Totally right,in this highly charged house,that Perez got warned for it,you do get several warnings often on BB, the 'final' warning is the one that usually could see you removed.
It was dealt with.

However ,it now seems several housemates are also going on as to how Katie Hopkins sneaks around saying right and also wrong things about others,she has been aggressive,she has threatened and even set about 'organising' the ostracising of a housemate.
Just when will this get addressed and her get some warnings too, from what I have seen she equally possibly should be not be there now for her actions.

It is an explosive house and explosive things happen like this,in the last CBB Gary was pulled up for a comment he made to James Jordan.
How do we want to see the house really,do we wnat it to be like Mary Poppins or actually be looking in on a group of people who may or may not do and say things we like or hate.

As long as no one gets physically attacked then the time this show is on, just let it play out,good times, bad times, arguments, warts and all.



Then why did Perez and Nadia get Ken out then.....hypocricy. We havent seen the beginning of the argument but we saw the end with his revolting remarks. Typical of him. Just like Nadia to blame Katie, I thought she shook hands with her? Just so twofaced, even then she didnt think Perez was in the wrong.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:03 PM
What if Callum said it to Cami, he would be out, that's not fair

Equally if Calum had squared up to Cami as he did to Perez he would be out

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:03 PM
What if i said it to you?


You'd probably get infracted :)

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 10:03 PM
I am honestly shocked to see people defend what he said. Seriously like sitting here shaking my head.

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:05 PM
You'd probably get infracted :)

stick it up your arse

:hehe:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:05 PM
I am honestly shocked to see people defend what he said. Seriously like sitting here shaking my head.

There defending him but wanted Ken and Jeremy kicked out and i think this comment is far worse

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:05 PM
Terrible thing to say, definitely deserved a formal warning.

Benjamin
30-01-2015, 10:05 PM
You'd probably get infracted :)

:joker:

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:06 PM
Don't forget that Perez has been isolated from the beginning. Now he's fighting back. I knew he would.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:06 PM
I am honestly shocked to see people defend what he said. Seriously like sitting here shaking my head.

Okay :laugh:

Stormy
30-01-2015, 10:06 PM
The desperation to defend his every action became desperate a while ago.


:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Benjamin
30-01-2015, 10:06 PM
I am honestly shocked to see people defend what he said. Seriously like sitting here shaking my head.

I'm not defending him, I agree with the warning but my point was he did not say he would rape Calum.

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:07 PM
stick it up your arse



:hehe:


Perma ban tbh :idc:

bots
30-01-2015, 10:07 PM
I'm not defending him, I agree with the warning but my point was he did not say he would rape Calum.

we all know what he said, and he got a warning

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:07 PM
I'm not defending him, I agree with the warning but my point was he did not say he would rape Calum.

bUt comments like that are taken as that

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:07 PM
There defending him but wanted Ken and Jeremy kicked out and i think this comment is far worse

Excuse me get your facts straight I thought both expulsions were OTT :smug:

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:08 PM
I'm on his side vs Hopkins but yeah that's poor form tbh.

If that had been a straight man saying that to a woman or a gay man he'd be out on his arse. Which I also think would be wrong. PC nonsense. A warning is suffice in both situations its just that if Calum had said it, he'd have got more than that,.

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:08 PM
Calum would've loved it I bet.

Stormy
30-01-2015, 10:08 PM
I'm not defending him, I agree with the warning but my point was he did not say he would rape Calum.

You are reaching. Sure he didn't say it, he just described exactly how he was going to do it. :rolleyes:

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:08 PM
I'm on his side vs Hopkins but yeah that's poor form tbh.

If that had been a straight man saying that to a woman or a gay man he'd be out on his arse. Which I also think would be wrong. PC nonsense. A warning is suffice in both situations its just that if Calum had said it, he'd have got more than that,.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:08 PM
bUt comments like that are taken as that

Bit of a tongue twister :laugh:

Pink Pegasus
30-01-2015, 10:09 PM
If they'd been having an argument about cheese again or something else stupid, and Perez said "I'll shove it up your arse" in a heated argument, I could overlook it as I've heard that expression so many times.

"I'll shove my big dick up your fcuking arse" roared at least twice is crossing a line though imo.

I am not a Calum fan at all, but I think Perez deserved a warning for that.

I don't think however that he was threatening to rape him. It was just a stupid stick it your arse comment that went waaaaaay too far and too rude.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:09 PM
I think Ofcom will get a record number of complaints for this

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:10 PM
You are reaching. Sure he didn't say it, he just described exactly how he was going to do it. :rolleyes:

Not sure there is any other way :joker:

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:10 PM
I am honestly shocked to see people defend what he said. Seriously like sitting here shaking my head.

People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning:shrug:) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say:shocked:

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:10 PM
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Then why did Perez and Nadia get Ken out then.....hypocricy. We havent seen the beginning of the argument but we saw the end with his revolting remarks. Typical of him. Just like Nadia to blame Katie, I thought she shook hands with her? Just so twofaced, even then she didnt think Perez was in the wrong.

I frankly don't get your point, I didn't care for him but I really didn't agree with Ken being removed.

However you are selectively,(possibly),overlooking that Ken got a warning too for a so called racist term,. that he had disobeyed BB on and used the same word again,after being told never to again, in a conversation with another housemate.
It was after that he was removed, likely nothing to do with Nadia and Perez, and as I recall most of the other women too were complaining at Ken's comments as to the womens backsides, not just Nadia.

Jase.
30-01-2015, 10:10 PM
Calum would've loved it I bet.

:umm2:

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:11 PM
I think Ofcom will get a record number of complaints for this

Don't they take any notice of the warning these people :umm2:

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:11 PM
Perma ban tbh :idc:

Tell them it's an exit hole Niamh:smug:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:12 PM
Don't they take any notice of the warning these people :umm2:

Of course this is a serious issue

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:12 PM
People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning:shrug:) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say:shocked:

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

Well said, it is why I avoid arguments as best I can. Too much to be mended afterwards and a gross misrepresentation often of the people arguing too.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:13 PM
People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning:shrug:) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say:shocked:

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

That excuse doesnt wash with me and wouldnt in a court of law

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:13 PM
Of course this is a serious issue

Is it :umm2:

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:13 PM
That excuse doesnt wash with me and wouldnt in a court of law

Yes mulud

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 10:13 PM
People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning:shrug:) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say:shocked:

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

People do a lot of things in the heat of the moment and still deserve to be punished.

I don't agree it was just a silly off the cuff comment though because he said it over and over again because even when others told him to stop.

Ant.
30-01-2015, 10:14 PM
Is it :umm2:

Well personally if a stranger I've know for less than a month threatened to stick his penis into my ass I would be concerned

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:16 PM
That excuse doesnt wash with me and wouldnt in a court of law

But you probably have more control of your emotions.....some people don't and say the most ridiculous things.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:16 PM
But you probably have more control of your emotions.....some people don't and say the most ridiculous things.

This!

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:17 PM
I think Ofcom will get a record number of complaints for this

Yeah...

No.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:17 PM
Well personally if a stranger I've know for less than a month threatened to stick his penis into my ass I would be concerned

If you say so, considering security are standing outside the door AND there was no intention personally I would feel fine

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:18 PM
He shouldn't have said that, but Callum was also aggressive and they never called him out on it.

CaudleHalbard
30-01-2015, 10:18 PM
I assume, and very much hope, that if someone is removed from CBB they lose their fee.

Benjamin
30-01-2015, 10:18 PM
You are reaching. Sure he didn't say it, he just described exactly how he was going to do it. :rolleyes:

Call it what you will, I couldn't give a flying **** what you think tbh. That is my opinion.

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:19 PM
People do a lot of things in the heat of the moment and still deserve to be punished.

I don't agree it was just a silly off the cuff comment though because he said it over and over again because even when others told him to stop.

I agree with you, but i really don't think Calum would have perceived it as a threat or a danger to his being. I think it started off as an off the cuff comment, but ended up as a bit of peacocking!

D_LO_
30-01-2015, 10:19 PM
To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H :rolleyes: (Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being whiter than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:19 PM
Perez went way over the line but people have to know that Katie, Callum and Cami are ganging up to provoke him.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:20 PM
But you probably have more control of your emotions.....some people don't and say the most ridiculous things.

So its ok to sexual assault someone because your not in control of your emotions?

Drew.
30-01-2015, 10:20 PM
I didn't see it, innocent

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/56501000/jpg/_56501873_wenger1.jpg

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:20 PM
People do a lot of things in the heat of the moment and still deserve to be punished.

I don't agree it was just a silly off the cuff comment though because he said it over and over again because even when others told him to stop.

It wasn't off the cuff. It was anger. When angered people tend to repeatedly shout things.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:20 PM
Perez went way over the line but people have to know that Katie, Callum and Cami are ganging up to provoke him.

That is a very very poor excuse

Withano
30-01-2015, 10:21 PM
Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:21 PM
To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H :rolleyes: (Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being white than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.

Welcome, quite an entrance :worship:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:21 PM
Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.

I think Lampfan is the only Perez fan to see the truth

bots
30-01-2015, 10:21 PM
but this isnt the first time he has crossed the line, the sexual thing he said to KH that he got a warning for but was not shown is another example. He shouldn't be in the house if Ken got kicked out

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:22 PM
So its ok to sexual assault someone because your not in control of your emotions?

Definitely not, but there is sexual assault in the world, and maybe those people can't control themselves, the people who do this are scumbags, and deserve the most severe of punishments, but i wouldn't put Perez as a person who has sexually assaulted anyone.

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:22 PM
Bit of a tongue twister :laugh:

Filth.

Tom4784
30-01-2015, 10:23 PM
:clap1:

You must be seriously messed up if you think calling someone a dick justifies a rape threat.

Pink Pegasus
30-01-2015, 10:23 PM
Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.

I don't know if I'm a Perez lover but he has been my 3rd or sometimes 4th fav, I usually find him amusing. I'm not a Calum fan and never have been.

I think Perez went too far, was in the wrong and deserved a warning.

I don't think he was threatening to literally rape anybody though.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:23 PM
Definitely not, but there is sexual assault in the world, and maybe those people can't control themselves, the people who do this are scumbags, and deserve the most severe of punishments, but i wouldn't put Perez as a person who has sexually assaulted anyone.

This is insinuating that he would do that

Miranda123
30-01-2015, 10:23 PM
He should have been removed

he said he will shove his dick up his arse


according to most of the HM's view of the Pervs dick, Calum wouldnt have felt a thing!

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:23 PM
You must be seriously messed up if you think calling someone a dick justifies a rape threat.

It wasn't.

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:23 PM
That is a very very poor excuse

No surprise though is it really,it's been happening all the way through the show:shrug:

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:24 PM
I agree with you, but i really don't think Calum would have perceived it as a threat or a danger to his being. I think it started off as an off the cuff comment, but ended up as a bit of peacocking!

Yes, I do wonder if some people have ever been in a heated altercation before. They've lived very sheltered lives or are just desperate to be offended by someone they dont like.

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:24 PM
Perez went way over the line but people have to know that Katie, Callum and Cami are ganging up to provoke him.

Therein lies a very telling statement from you Vanessa,Calum hates Perez, and has been itching for an opportunity to get at him because Calum 'likes' Cami,while Perez detests her and constantly puts her down.

Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:25 PM
Therein lies a very telling statement from you Vanessa,Calum hates Perez, and has been itching for an opportunity to get at him because Calum 'likes' Cami,while Perez detests her and constantly puts her down.

Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

:worship:

Tom4784
30-01-2015, 10:25 PM
It wasn't.

If Perez did say that then it's a threat, if Calum didn't want it to happen then it's rape. It's pretty simple.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:25 PM
Therein lies a very telling statement from you Vanessa,Calum hates Perez, and has been itching for an opportunity to get at him because Calum 'likes' Cami,while Perez detests her and constantly puts her down.

Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

Stop trying to justify it

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:25 PM
This is insinuating that he would do that

Huh:shocked:

Please explain further:conf:

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:25 PM
according to most of the HM's view of the Pervs dick, Calum wouldnt have felt a thing!

:laugh:

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:26 PM
I think Lampfan is the only Perez fan to see the truth

I dont quite see the truth the same as you seem to though. Talk of rape and ofcom... Nah.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:26 PM
Huh:shocked:

Please explain further:conf:

By shouting in anger what your going to do 3 or 4 times is seen as a threat

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:26 PM
Stop trying to justify it

There is nothing to justify nothing happened

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:27 PM
Yes, I do wonder if some people have ever been in a heated altercation before. They've lived very sheltered lives or are just desperate to be offended by someone they dont like.

Well said!:)

Cherie
30-01-2015, 10:27 PM
I dont quite see the truth the same as you seem to though. Talk of rape and ofcom... Nah.

.

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:27 PM
Yes, I do wonder if some people have ever been in a heated altercation before. They've lived very sheltered lives or are just desperate to be offended by someone they dont like.

lol ,same could be said for people who dislike KH .

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:27 PM
Yes, I do wonder if some people have ever been in a heated altercation before. They've lived very sheltered lives or are just desperate to be offended by someone they dont like.

:clap1:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:28 PM
I dont quite see the truth the same as you seem to though. Talk of rape and ofcom... Nah.

I said its likened to a theat rape and i do think Ofcom should be involved as people watching will think if you say vile things like this you will only get a slap on the wrist and fact it wasnt

MrWong
30-01-2015, 10:28 PM
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Then why did Perez and Nadia get Ken out then.....hypocricy. We havent seen the beginning of the argument but we saw the end with his revolting remarks. Typical of him. Just like Nadia to blame Katie, I thought she shook hands with her? Just so twofaced, even then she didnt think Perez was in the wrong.

If it's Katie's fault that Perez said something disgusting how come Nadia didn't blame Perez for what Alexander came out with?

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:29 PM
There is nothing to justify nothing happened

There you hit the nail on the head by now claiming he never said it

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:29 PM
It wasn't a rape threat. YES it was a stupid comment and he rightly had a warning but Perez presumably repeated it when asked by an angry Callum to prove he wouldn't be shouted down by him.

LPK
30-01-2015, 10:29 PM
lol ,same could be said for people who dislike KH .

Very true.

Vulgar sexual threats are excusable, but *don't* you dare ever question weight or names. That's just a step too far.

Interesting.

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:29 PM
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lol ,same could be said for people who dislike KH .

She doesn't offend me. I'm wise to her act.

She's a professional troll who the show was built around. That's not for me I'm afraid.

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 10:29 PM
Now people are blaming Katie, Cami and Calum...wow

Perez makes a very open threat, repeatedly. Shows no remorse for it and it's somebody elses fault?

I literally can't @ this wth

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:29 PM
Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.
I'm a perez fan and he deserved the warning tbf

bots
30-01-2015, 10:30 PM
ofcom only get involved if there has been vote rigging or if a person has been falsely portrayed or comments made that were wholly inaccurate.

An argument is not an ofcom issue, not even close

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:31 PM
offcom only get involved if there has been vote rigging or if a person has been falsely portrayed or comments made that were wholly inaccurate.

An argument is not an ofcom issue, not even close

They can get involved if veiwers were offended

bots
30-01-2015, 10:31 PM
They can get involved if veiwers were offended

only if they were offended for the reasons i mentioned

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:32 PM
By shouting in anger what your going to do 3 or 4 times is seen as a threat

He was peacocking!

Have you never seen a face off of "do you want a piece of me????? well do ya???? Come on then!"

That's all it was, i was bought up in the 70's/80's, there was always peacocking at my school, yes Perez said it in a sexual way, but lets face it, it was an empty threat, and i have had many of those in my life!

Which is probably why i wasn't shocked by it, but my daughters would have been horrified and that's probably because they haven't had the same life experiences as me, it was not acceptable what he said but he would never have literally meant it.

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:32 PM
They can get involved if veiwers were offended

Ofcom speed diallers get offended at a fart tbf.

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:32 PM
Stop trying to justify it

Oh get off your high horse, I have already said in a long post earlier I agreed with the warning and that he was wrong to say it.

Before you accuse someone of justifying something when they are not and have already said they agreed it was wrong and the warning was right, I suggest you possibly read their posts firsts.

However after saying that, as with most issues,other areas of topic around the matter and others, opens up a wider expansion of comment as to reasons why some explosive things come about.

Also, even if I was trying to justify it, which I was in no way doing so, you practice an odd sort of fair play by telling me to stop doing something.
You have no right on here to tell me what to do at all.

Vicky.
30-01-2015, 10:32 PM
Flashbacks to dexters 'I will stick it in you' to callum causing a load of crap :joker:

JTM45
30-01-2015, 10:33 PM
I said its likened to a theat rape and i do think Ofcom should be involved as people watching will think if you say vile things like this you will only get a slap on the wrist and fact it wasnt

You tried to say that he'd 'raped' a window the other day! :laugh:

Words are just that. Nothing more, nothing less!
Some people just use any excuse to be outraged and if it involves someone they don't like then it's all the better for their imagined cause.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:33 PM
Flashbacks to dexters 'I will stick it in you' to callum causing a load of crap :joker:

:joker:

Drew.
30-01-2015, 10:33 PM
Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

Very well said

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:34 PM
I said its likened to a theat rape and i do think Ofcom should be involved as people watching will think if you say vile things like this you will only get a slap on the wrist and fact it wasnt

Yeah but it wasn't a threat, it was used to insult and antagonize. Calum certainly wouldn't have feared for his body but was rightly annoyed by how vulgar the comment was.

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:34 PM
Flashbacks to dexters 'I will stick it in you' to callum causing a load of crap :joker:

Hhahah :laugh:

I made a meme of that

*won't do it this time for fear of being stabbed with a pitch fork*

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:34 PM
You tried to say that he'd 'raped' a window the other day! :laugh:

Words are just that. Nothing more, nothing less!
Some people just use any excuse to be outraged and if it involves someone they don't like then it's all the better for their imagined cause.

You go and say that to a police officer and see the outcome

smudgie
30-01-2015, 10:34 PM
Totally stupid thng to say. Deserving of a warning.

However, I hardly think Calum could actually feel he was in any danger of being raped.
Surrounded by all the rest of the hosemates, cameras in them all, plus, I doubt he took it literally.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:35 PM
Yeah but it wasn't a threat, it was used to insult and antagonize. Calum certainly wouldn't have feared for his body but was rightly annoyed by how vulgar the comment was.

Yes but it can and will be seen as a threat

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:35 PM
Perez raped the window???? :laugh2:

JTM45
30-01-2015, 10:35 PM
You go and say that to a police officer and see the outcome

What's that got to do with anything ?
There were no Police present so what's your point ?:shrug:

Vicky.
30-01-2015, 10:36 PM
Hhahah :laugh:

I made a meme of that

*won't do it this time for fear of being stabbed with a pitch fork*

Would be interesting to compare peoples reactions in both situations.

Mind saying that I havent seen this incident yet as I am on +1 plus paused it for half hour while my mother was on the phone

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:36 PM
Totally stupid thng to say. Deserving of a warning.

However, I hardly think Calum could actually feel he was in any danger of being raped.
Surrounded by all the rest of the hosemates, cameras in them all, plus, I doubt he took it literally.

A bit of subject but it can happen as it happened in a another version of the show i think brazillian version

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:36 PM
Would be interesting to compare peoples reactions in both situations.

Mind saying that I havent seen this incident yet as I am on +1 plus paused it for half hour while my mother was on the phone

Mothers, eh? :idc:

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:36 PM
You tried to say that he'd 'raped' a window the other day! :laugh:

Words are just that. Nothing more, nothing less!
Some people just use any excuse to be outraged and if it involves someone they don't like then it's all the better for their imagined cause.

If words are just words , why are you all so pissed at KH then , afterall they are just words!!!! people are so hypocritical sometimes.

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:36 PM
You tried to say that he'd 'raped' a window the other day! :laugh:

Words are just that. Nothing more, nothing less!
Some people just use any excuse to be outraged and if it involves someone they don't like then it's all the better for their imagined cause.

:joker: Exactly as to all your post, well said again JTM45

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:37 PM
A bit of subject but it can happen as it happened in a another version of the show i think brazillian version

Which obviously makes the world of difference to this particular situation.

RichardG
30-01-2015, 10:37 PM
Yes, I do wonder if some people have ever been in a heated altercation before. They've lived very sheltered lives or are just desperate to be offended by someone they dont like.

:clap1:

An inappropriate comment which deserved a warning but if someone said that to me in a heated argument I wouldn't take it literally, I wouldn't genuinely think he was threatening to rape me. I would take it as a petty insult in no doubt a petty argument.

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:37 PM
Would be interesting to compare peoples reactions in both situations.

Mind saying that I havent seen this incident yet as I am on +1 plus paused it for half hour while my mother was on the phone

I haven't seen it either just read what was said.

I do think the warning is deserved though for what was said.

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:37 PM
Perez raped the window???? :laugh2:

The window later said it had a pane

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 10:37 PM
If words are just words , why are you all so pissed at KH then , afterall they are just words!!!!

:clap1:

Jules2
30-01-2015, 10:37 PM
People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning:shrug:) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say:shocked:

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

So why did they get Ken and Jermey out, why is Nadia still sticking up for him. That wasnt ridiculous it was revolting and a threat.

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:38 PM
The window later said it had a pane

:joker::joker:

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:38 PM
the window did not press charges! :joker:

MojoNixon
30-01-2015, 10:38 PM
The window later said it had a pane

Thats funny :laugh::laugh::laugh: So Funny :D :D :D

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:38 PM
Perez raped the window???? :laugh2:

Well the window didnt ask for it :shrug:

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:39 PM
The window later said it had a pane

:joker: Very quick, good one Niamh.:joker:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:39 PM
If words are just words , why are you all so pissed at KH then , afterall they are just words!!!! people are so hypocritical sometimes.

:worship:

Dollface
30-01-2015, 10:39 PM
That's worse than what Ken said, yet Ken got removed and Perez gets to stay?

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:40 PM
If words are just words , why are you all so pissed at KH then , afterall they are just words!!!! people are so hypocritical sometimes.

Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:40 PM
The window later said it had a pane

Ill give you that one :clap1: :joker:

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:40 PM
:joker: Exactly as to all your post, well said again JTM45

I'll ask YOU Joey,if words are just words as JTM45 claims ,why the outrage over KH? I have copied the post by JTM45

"Words are just that. Nothing more, nothing less!
Some people just use any excuse to be outraged and if it involves someone they don't like then it's all the better for their imagined cause."

Am I being stupid here?

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:40 PM
So why did they get Ken and Jermey out, why is Nadia still sticking up for him. That wasnt ridiculous it was revolting and a threat.

Jeremy was removed because Chloe felt upset that he pulled her robe to expose her breast and Ken was removed because of the language he used, i'm not BB i don't make up the rules, give out the warnings, or decide to show the general public an edited version of events inside the house:)

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:41 PM
Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

They sure are .

Marsh.
30-01-2015, 10:41 PM
The window later said it had a pane

:joker:

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:41 PM
Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

:clap1:

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:41 PM
They sure are .

Glad you agree.

Niamh.
30-01-2015, 10:41 PM
Ill give you that one :clap1: :joker:

:love:

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 10:42 PM
Glad you agree.

I do :smug:

RichardG
30-01-2015, 10:43 PM
Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

I was about to say the exact same thing.

If Perez said to me what he said to Callum in the middle of an argument, I would not be offended. However, if he came up to me and said that in the same aggressive way for no reason without me provoking him first, I would be a little concerned.

MojoNixon
30-01-2015, 10:43 PM
:love:

:flower::cheer::thumbs::colour::bouncy::banana: :kiss:

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 10:43 PM
Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

Perez is guilty of both.

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:44 PM
If words are just words , why are you all so pissed at KH then , afterall they are just words!!!! people are so hypocritical sometimes.

I can't speak for other KH dislikers but her words mean nothing to me. Don't bother me one bit. What bothers me is that she is nothing but an online troll. They serve one purpose, to say horrendous things to get attention. They are widely scolded for their behavior yet KH is making a career of it. Great message.

She was pretty dull on Im a Celeb 5/6 years ago. Now she's completely different. Im supposed to buy that?

Please. Seems it working though. Go trolls! :laugh:

**end rant** :cheer2:

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:45 PM
I can't speak for other KH dislikers but her words mean nothing to me. Don't bother me one bit. What bothers me is that she is nothing but an online troll. They serve one purpose, to say horrendous things to get attention. They are widely scolded for their behavior yet KH is making a career of it. Great message.

She was pretty dull on Im a Celeb 5/6 years ago. Now she's completely different. Im supposed to buy that?

Please. Seems it working though. Go trolls! :laugh:

**end rant** :cheer2:

:clap1:

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:45 PM
Perez is guilty of both.

Interesting.

However I was replying to Kazanne's comment about KH 'words' and calling people hypocrites when the two situations are completely different and can't be compared.

Dollface
30-01-2015, 10:45 PM
Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

There's no difference tbh, words are still words

Whatever way you look at it, whether he was being serious or not, it was still a disgusting threat and the fact Perez fans are sticking up for him baffles me. When Katie H does something wrong, i say what she did was wrong, i say she disappointed me, despite being a fan of hers. Yet Perez can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans.

Jules2
30-01-2015, 10:47 PM
If it's Katie's fault that Perez said something disgusting how come Nadia didn't blame Perez for what Alexander came out with?

Not sure what you mean tbh we know that Alex left because he was afraid of letting himself down with Perez, he couldnt stand the man. Perez according to Alex was in every corner, remember him coughing and coughing all a set up but he woke Alex up and from then on it went from bad to worse.

Nadia is now saying that that little clip which was shown was begun by KH. Now no matter what, KH didnt say the words and this is the issue. She couldnt accept blame where it should have gone, Perez is not a puppet. We need to see more before we can say if she is right or wrong but on the other hand she dislikes KH so much that she cannot see the trees for the wood sometimes. She was so disgustingly up in Kens face and I do believe that if it hadnt been for those two he wouldnt have gone.

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:47 PM
There's no difference tbh, words are still words

Whatever way you look at it, whether he was being serious or not, it was still a disgusting threat and the fact Perez fans are sticking up for him baffles me. When Katie H does something wrong, i say what she did was wrong, i say she disappointed me, despite being a fan of hers. Yet Perez can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans.

Most of the KH fans always blindly defend her, no matter what she does.

Josy
30-01-2015, 10:48 PM
There's no difference tbh, words are still words

Whatever way you look at it, whether he was being serious or not, it was still a disgusting threat and the fact Perez fans are sticking up for him baffles me. When Katie H does something wrong, i say what she did was wrong, i say she disappointed me, despite being a fan of hers. Yet Perez can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans.

There is definitely a difference and it all comes down to the way they are used, the way they are taken, in what situations, who has said them and who it's directed at.

I did say it was a terrible thing to say and that the warning was deserved, I don't see much fans defending him either.

I'm also not a Perez fan so not really sure why you quoted my post to reply to.

Jules2
30-01-2015, 10:48 PM
Most of the KH fans always blindly defend her, no matter what she does.

I wonder what the Perez fans do?

RichardG
30-01-2015, 10:48 PM
There's no difference tbh, words are still words

Whatever way you look at it, whether he was being serious or not, it was still a disgusting threat and the fact Perez fans are sticking up for him baffles me. When Katie H does something wrong, i say what she did was wrong, i say she disappointed me, despite being a fan of hers. Yet Perez can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans.

Almost all of the Perez fans in here have said that his comment was wrong and he deserved the warning?

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:48 PM
Well there is a major difference with words exchanged during a heated argument and words that are directed at thousands of innocent people for no reason at all.

People are so blinkered at times.

There certainly is Josy, the difference is that in this Perez wouldn't and couldn't have carried out this action even 'if',small if, he had meant it.

Katie Hopkins on the other hand, being paid to do so and relentless in doing so too, sets out to help demonise a great number of the poorer and weaker and sick population of the UK, with her vile words and columns that she presents as facts but which are far away from the real situation.
People weaker than her with no means at all to fight back or even argue back.

The other thing is, had she any power to do so, she would really make those people suffer even more by attacking the small livelihoods they have to exist with.
She stirs up suspicion, hate and anger from the 'privileged' against the weakest and that is a world of a difference between her rotten heartless publicing against these people and these comments made in this argument.

She doesn't even need an argument to set out to demonise whole sections of the poorer society, she gets paid to do it and loves to do it too.

Jase.
30-01-2015, 10:49 PM
Then Nadia blamed KATIE for Perez's comment. I just can't deal :joker:

bots
30-01-2015, 10:50 PM
perez picked those words very carefully because he knew it would really hit home with Calum and potentially make him lose his cool and bop him one. He is doing the same to everyone

joeysteele
30-01-2015, 10:50 PM
Almost all of the Perez fans in here have said that his comment was wrong and he deserved the warning?

Thank you for pointing that out.
You would think we hadn't wouldn't you,the stick we are getting..:joker:

Vicky.
30-01-2015, 10:52 PM
OK now having seen it...a warning was deserved. But honestly...those making it out to be a proper rape threat..get a ****ing grip :rolleyes:

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 10:53 PM
Almost all of the Perez fans in here have said that his comment was wrong and he deserved the warning?

Well said!

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 10:53 PM
OK now having seen it...a warning was deserved. But honestly...those making it out to be a proper rape threat..get a ****ing grip :rolleyes:

This! It wasn't.

Mystic Mock
30-01-2015, 10:54 PM
There's no difference tbh, words are still words

Whatever way you look at it, whether he was being serious or not, it was still a disgusting threat and the fact Perez fans are sticking up for him baffles me. When Katie H does something wrong, i say what she did was wrong, i say she disappointed me, despite being a fan of hers. Yet Perez can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans.

So every Housemate that says “shove it up your ass” should be accused of wanting to rape someone?

Dollface
30-01-2015, 10:54 PM
There is definitely a difference and it all comes down to the way they are used, the way they are taken, in what situations, who has said them and who it's directed at.

I did say it was a terrible thing to say and that the warning was deserved, I don't see much fans defending him either.

I'm also not a Perez fan so not really sure why you quoted my post to reply to.

Didn't say you was a Perez fan, i quoted you because the first part of my post was a response to you.

To be honest though, you are defending Perez. Saying there's a difference between what he said and what Katie has said, is making excuses for him. :shrug:

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:54 PM
OK now having seen it...a warning was deserved. But honestly...those making it out to be a proper rape threat..get a ****ing grip :rolleyes:

As i said rape originally i quickly changed it and said it can be likened to threating to rape

Dollface
30-01-2015, 10:55 PM
So every Housemate that says “shove it up your ass” should be accused of wanting to rape someone?

I never mentioned the word rape?

Denver
30-01-2015, 10:57 PM
May i say if i offended anybody with my OP before i changed it i am sorry

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 10:59 PM
Almost all of the Perez fans in here have said that his comment was wrong and he deserved the warning?

This must be the 100th time this has been mentioned.

No acknowledgement from KH fans. I'd guess trolls love trolls :hehe:

Vicky.
30-01-2015, 10:59 PM
So every Housemate that says “shove it up your ass” should be accused of wanting to rape someone?

I will stick it in you...was taken by some (who disliked the person that said it) to be a threat of rape mock...do you not remember? :laugh:

But seriously, especially with how angry callum got over it, a warning was deserved. The problem now is, after BB peed their pants when Perez wanted to leave and it was obvious to everyone that he got the secret room so he didnt walk...he knows warnings mean **** all in his case. No way would he be thrown out for anything at this stage, if he did anything really awful it would just be completely erased from existance (ala freezergate...)

Josy
30-01-2015, 11:00 PM
Didn't say you was a Perez fan, i quoted you because the first part of my post was a response to you.

To be honest though, you are defending Perez. Saying there's a difference between what he said and what Katie has said, is making excuses for him. :shrug:

I haven't defended Perez at all, please don't insinuate that I am.

My comment about words being different in certain situations was a direct reply to Kazanne not to do with Perez at all.

Jules2
30-01-2015, 11:00 PM
Jeremy was removed because Chloe felt upset that he pulled her robe to expose her breast and Ken was removed because of the language he used, i'm not BB i don't make up the rules, give out the warnings, or decide to show the general public an edited version of events inside the house:)

I know but it was rather hypocritical with what Perez has got up to. I wonder had they known would they have come down so heavy on them...

Denver
30-01-2015, 11:01 PM
This must be the 100th time this has been mentioned.

No acknowledgement from KH fans. I'd guess trolls love trolls :hehe:

Most of his fans admitted his wrong but a few refuse to

Kazanne
30-01-2015, 11:01 PM
I can't speak for other KH dislikers but her words mean nothing to me. Don't bother me one bit. What bothers me is that she is nothing but an online troll. They serve one purpose, to say horrendous things to get attention. They are widely scolded for their behavior yet KH is making a career of it. Great message.

She was pretty dull on Im a Celeb 5/6 years ago. Now she's completely different. Im supposed to buy that?

Please. Seems it working though. Go trolls! :laugh:

**end rant** :cheer2:

:joker::joker::joker:

rubymoo
30-01-2015, 11:03 PM
I know but it was rather hypocritical with what Perez has got up to. I wonder had they known would they have come down so heavy on them...

That's BB for you.....:)

bots
30-01-2015, 11:03 PM
at the end of the day, the guy said something and he was warned about it. Ken got 2 warnings and was shown the door. Perez has now had 2 warnings and not been shown the door. Where is the consistency

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 11:04 PM
Perez is tv gold. BB would do anything to keep him in. Fact!

Vicky.
30-01-2015, 11:04 PM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232605&highlight=stick+dexter+callum

memories...

for a laugh, search 'dexter callum stick it in you'

So many threads on it...

Vanessa
30-01-2015, 11:05 PM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232605&highlight=stick+dexter+callum

memories...

for a laugh, search 'dexter callum stick it in you'

So many threads on it...

I loved that! so bad of me! :hehe:

MrWong
30-01-2015, 11:07 PM
Not sure what you mean tbh we know that Alex left because he was afraid of letting himself down with Perez, he couldnt stand the man. Perez according to Alex was in every corner, remember him coughing and coughing all a set up but he woke Alex up and from then on it went from bad to worse.

Nadia is now saying that that little clip which was shown was begun by KH. Now no matter what, KH didnt say the words and this is the issue. She couldnt accept blame where it should have gone, Perez is not a puppet. We need to see more before we can say if she is right or wrong but on the other hand she dislikes KH so much that she cannot see the trees for the wood sometimes. She was so disgustingly up in Kens face and I do believe that if it hadnt been for those two he wouldnt have gone.

Maybe I didn't explain myself.

Tonight Nadia defended Perez disgusting outburst (Telling Calum to suck his dick) by blaming Katie for starting the argument.

So following Nadia's failed logic she should have blamed Perez for Alexander's homophobic outburst on Perez because he started it (the coughing, following around the house, staring, sticking his tongue out etc..)

Northern Monkey
30-01-2015, 11:08 PM
He should not have said it but Calum was throwing the first insults to be fair too.

It was however right he got a warning in my view because to some viewers I guess offence would or could be taken although had Calum said it to him, I doubt there would have been much of a fuss made on here as to that.

I liked on bbbots when they showed the clip,that Nadia said what BB hadn't shown in that was that Katie Hopkins was the instigator of the argument in the first place.
So as ever selective presentation from BB.

Totally right,in this highly charged house,that Perez got warned for it,you do get several warnings often on BB, the 'final' warning is the one that usually could see you removed.
It was dealt with.

However ,it now seems several housemates are also going on as to how Katie Hopkins sneaks around saying right and also wrong things about others,she has been aggressive,she has threatened and even set about 'organising' the ostracising of a housemate.
Just when will this get addressed and her get some warnings too, from what I have seen she equally possibly should be not be there now for her actions.

It is an explosive house and explosive things happen like this,in the last CBB Gary was pulled up for a comment he made to James Jordan.
How do we want to see the house really,do we want it to be like Mary Poppins or actually be looking in on a group of people who may or may not do and say things we like or hate.

As long as no one gets physically attacked then the time this show is on, just let it play out,good times, bad times, arguments, warts and all.
I usually very much enjoy your posts but i can't agree.Non of the things you wrote matter.It is totally irrelevant who started the argument or what Katie Hopkins has done in the house.You can't say to somebody in an aggressive manor "I will shove my big dick up your ass".I don't usually advocate people being removed or censored but that comment was disgusting from Perez.It was a rape threat and an aggressive one at that.I can't possibly see how it could be defended.Imagine Calum saying that to a woman in there,He would be long gone.

Amy Jade
30-01-2015, 11:12 PM
Maybe I didn't explain myself.

Tonight Nadia defended Perez disgusting outburst (Telling Calum to suck his dick) by blaming Katie for starting the argument.

So following Nadia's failed logic she should have blamed Perez for Alexander's homophobic outburst on Perez because he started it (the coughing, following around the house, staring, sticking his tongue out etc..)
Nadia is an idiot quite frankly.

She had flop logic all series and went against her own preaching constantly.

Lampfan
30-01-2015, 11:15 PM
:joker::joker::joker:

I just phoned OFCOM. I said an angry shouting match happened. They said, then what happened... I said Kaite Hopkins was on my screen.

They said, that's awful. We'll get right on it.

Daniel-X
30-01-2015, 11:16 PM
Perez deserved the warning at this point... However, he was provoked by Calum who called him the dick of the house. Ken on the other hand was not provoked by Alexander, Keith, Cami-Li etc when he made the comments he made.

I don't understand also I thought Perez got a caution not a formal warming for his behaviour with Hopkins last night although I think I heard wrong looking back and it was a formal warning even so I usually tend to follow the rules Helen got over 14 WARNINGS in her stay and kept her place she also received a formal warning and a caution. So I think Perez has very right to stay especially considering the first warning I don't think was completely necessary as Hopkins was laughing and didn't seem to bothered I think she found it funny

Jack The Cat
30-01-2015, 11:19 PM
Warning or no warning, it's all rubbish, if it is illegal kick him out. If not then I hardly think it will make the public think better of him.

Withano
31-01-2015, 03:02 AM
I'm a perez fan and he deserved the warning tbf

I don't know if I'm a Perez lover but he has been my 3rd or sometimes 4th fav, I usually find him amusing. I'm not a Calum fan and never have been.

I think Perez went too far, was in the wrong and deserved a warning.

I don't think he was threatening to literally rape anybody though.

Thanks! From what I've read it sounds awful but then I saw some Perez fans defend it and it confused me, either some Perez fans will defend everything he does or it was taken out of context a bit.

Withano
31-01-2015, 03:05 AM
I can't imagine watching something and basing my opinions on how much I liked the person originally, because right now that's what the Perez fans defending Perez has just admitted doing. Or is it okay because its really entertaining?