View Full Version : Why Don't people get that Perez is joking about things like the Penis and with Alex
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:25 PM
When he says he wants to stick his penis in Calum he is clearly joking. Even with the staring at Alex it was just fun really but everyone seems to blow up and take it soooooooooooo serious.
He is a funny man and funny people make jokes for God's sake.
chuff me dizzy
31-01-2015, 06:26 PM
Now you are really making yourself look silly .......... rape is funny is it ?
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:29 PM
Now you are really making yourself look silly .......... rape is funny is it ?
There are many comedians who do make jokes about controversial things like anthony jeselnik. However Perez simply meant that has a childish joke not threatening in anyway. I would hardly call that a rape joke.
chuff me dizzy
31-01-2015, 06:30 PM
Ive shared your comment on Facebook ,I will let you know what response it gets
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:32 PM
Ive shared your comment on Facebook ,I will let you know what response it gets
Like I am interested in what randoms on Facebook have to say.
Chuckyegg
31-01-2015, 06:38 PM
If a man ever says that to you, I hope for your sake he is a comedian like Perez. Perez Hilton the famous comedian.
Ninastar
31-01-2015, 06:38 PM
because he isn't... no idea what the deal is with Callum, but with Alex, it was not 'just a bit of fun lol!!' it was an attempt to get him riled up and cause arguments in the house
Miranda123
31-01-2015, 06:40 PM
When he says he wants to stick his penis in Calum he is clearly joking. Even with the staring at Alex it was just fun really but everyone seems to blow up and take it soooooooooooo serious.
He is a funny man and funny people make jokes for God's sake.
it depends what you find funny, you dont find KH funny, but the majority of us do
you find Perez funny, I think him threatening to put a part of his anatomy up Calums arse is offensive,funny as ****, but offensive
its swings and roundabouts...........
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:41 PM
because he isn't... no idea what the deal is with Callum, but with Alex, it was not 'just a bit of fun lol!!' it was an attempt to get him riled up and cause arguments in the house
Even if that is true then it's hardly a real threat. I get people don't like Perez but should not use every little joke he says to hate on him.
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:44 PM
it depends what you find funny, you dont find KH funny, but the majority of us do
you find Perez funny, I think him threatening to put a part of his anatomy up Calums arse is offensive,funny as ****, but offensive
its swings and roundabouts...........
I agree and like i said I find anthony jeselnik very funny and know others would not. My point is the 'intent' and people claiming he was serious about raping Calum is just being inflammatory for the sake of it to hate on Perez.
Chuckyegg
31-01-2015, 06:44 PM
Sometimes I hate him but I don't hate on him and sometimes I hate on him but don't hate him and I think everyone but me should calm down.
Dollface
31-01-2015, 06:45 PM
Even if that is true then it's hardly a real threat. I get people don't like Perez but should not use every little joke he says to hate on him.
That's exactly what the Perez fans do with Katie H. She can't step a foot out of line without people making hate threads.
As for Perez's humour, i don't find him funny in the slightest.
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:45 PM
Now you are really making yourself look silly .......... rape is funny is it ?
Your a very craven individual and it's you who is making your self look silly with such remarks.
Jamesy
31-01-2015, 06:47 PM
It wasn't a serious comment but it wasn't a joke either. It was just a comment said in a heated argument, a silly comment to say the least. He should have just told Calum to f off or something.
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:48 PM
It wasn't a serious comment but it wasn't a joke either. It was just a comment said in a heated argument, a silly comment to say the least. He should have just told Calum to f off or something.
That sounds like a more reasonable view point on the matter.
Liam-
31-01-2015, 06:49 PM
As we all know Perez likes to do/say things to people that he knows will get the most reaction out of them, he knew Calum wouldn't react well to him saying he was going to force his itsy bitsy todger into him, so he went with that, a vile comment, from a vile man, no surprises really.
Chuckyegg
31-01-2015, 06:50 PM
I have no intention of stabbing my next door neighbour but I told him that I was going to anyway, just for a joke. Because I'm very funny. However, I was arrested and spent the night in a cell screaming through the door, "I was clearly joking, stop hating "on" me"
sampvt
31-01-2015, 06:52 PM
When he says he wants to stick his penis in Calum he is clearly joking. Even with the staring at Alex it was just fun really but everyone seems to blow up and take it soooooooooooo serious.
He is a funny man and funny people make jokes for God's sake.
I would hopeto get you on my jury if I committed mass murder with a hatchet in a crowd of daytime shoppers with a t shirt on that says kill everyone. You would get me off I am sure.
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:52 PM
I have no intention of stabbing my next door neighbour but I told him that I was going to anyway, just for a joke. Because I'm very funny. However, I was arrested and spent the night in a cell screaming through the door, "I was clearly joking, stop hating "on" me"
Shame your not as wise as the owl in your photo. :smug:
Jack_
31-01-2015, 06:52 PM
Ive shared your comment on Facebook ,I will let you know what response it gets
Yeah cause the menopausal cat ladies really are a bastion of rational opinion
Chuckyegg
31-01-2015, 06:53 PM
Shame your not as wise as the owl in your photo. :smug:
Shame YOU'RE not as wise as the owl in your photo.
sampvt
31-01-2015, 06:53 PM
Yeah cause the menopausal cat ladies really are a bastion of rational opinion
Is that a posh way of saying chuff an old cow, mmmmmmm, lol.
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:53 PM
Yeah cause the menopausal cat ladies really are a bastion of rational opinion
:joker:
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 06:54 PM
Shame YOU'RE not as wise as the owl in your photo.
Ahh you got me good :joker:
Vanessa
31-01-2015, 06:54 PM
Yeah cause the menopausal cat ladies really are a bastion of rational opinion
:joker::joker::joker::joker:
chuff me dizzy
31-01-2015, 06:55 PM
Is that a posh way of saying chuff an old cow, mmmmmmm, lol.
I truly hope not
sampvt
31-01-2015, 06:58 PM
:joker::joker::joker::joker:
Vanessa, your exempt from that crowd this year due to your faux love of an 18 carat dickhead. Maybe you can re apply next year love.
Denver
31-01-2015, 06:58 PM
A joke is saying it once not 3 or 4 times even when your told to stop
Withano
31-01-2015, 07:01 PM
He's not joking and even if he was, it wouldn't be funny. I have a feeling you know this already though and you're just being a wind u merchant though.
Denver
31-01-2015, 07:02 PM
He's not joking and even if he was, it wouldn't be funny. I have a feeling you know this already though and you're just being a wind u merchant though.
Well the OP is a known troll :hehe:
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 07:02 PM
He's not joking and even if he was, it wouldn't be funny. I have a feeling you know this already though and you're just being a wind u merchant though.
Sorry as other people have said comedy is a subjective matter. You don't get to tell people what is funny or not. People can make their own minds up.
My point was anyways that people where taking what Perez said in a argument way too serious.
mazerunner_888
31-01-2015, 07:03 PM
Well the OP is a known troll :hehe:
Your the biggest troll on this forum.
Denver
31-01-2015, 07:08 PM
Your the biggest troll on this forum.
Haha if you say so
Vicky.
31-01-2015, 07:11 PM
I don't think he was joking as such with Callum...he just said shove it up your arse to begin with then when he saw Callum getting riled this changed to the huge dick up your arse thing. He's just a troll. I don't understand how anyone can take him seriously, and honestly...LOL at those saying it was a serious rape threat. Give your heads a wobble :p
Vanessa
31-01-2015, 07:13 PM
I don't think he was joking as such with Callum...he just said shove it up your arse to begin with then when he saw Callum getting riled this changed to the huge dick up your arse thing. He's just a troll. I don't understand how anyone can take him seriously, and honestly...LOL at those saying it was a serious rape threat. Give your heads a wobble :p
:laugh: Perez is only good with words. He's not really a violent man. More likely to run off when threatened with it.
Withano
31-01-2015, 07:13 PM
Sorry as other people have said comedy is a subjective matter. You don't get to tell people what is funny or not. People can make their own minds up.
My point was anyways that people where taking what Perez said in a argument way too serious.
So.. You're saying Perez could say anything and you'd take it as a joke? This explains why his fan base is so strong haha. Perhaps you should start associating laughter with humour.
violent sexual threats is something to take seriously and if you saw it as humour then.. idk.. make your own coclusion.
poppsywoppsy
31-01-2015, 07:15 PM
It was a serious case of belittling others in a sexual way.
There are limits and lines which should not be crossed, decency wise.
Perez had no sense of humour, no sense of making it something which could be seen as consenting but something which was meant to be grossly offensive and demeaning.
There is a lot of what is offensive towards Gays and in Perez's case, his remarks were meant to be totally offensive towards straight men. It does and should work both ways.
Ken got removed for remarking about womens backsides, Perez's remarks were of penetration without consent towards a straight man.
Miranda123
31-01-2015, 07:45 PM
I agree and like i said I find anthony jeselnik very funny and know others would not. My point is the 'intent' and people claiming he was serious about raping Calum is just being inflammatory for the sake of it to hate on Perez.
I dont think anyone thinks he was serious about raping him, that silly, but had a straight guy in the house, said it to a woman HM, the **** would have hit the fan and he probably would have gone home
I dont want Perez to go yet, I want him to suffer without his mama, and I want Katie Price to ruin her chances of winning by being his friend, so Im happy for him to stay
Vicky.
31-01-2015, 07:46 PM
I dont think anyone thinks he was serious about raping him, that silly, but had a straight guy in the house, said it to a woman HM, the **** would have hit the fan and he probably would have gone home
I dont want Perez to go yet, I want him to suffer without his mama, and I want Katie Price to ruin her chances of winning by being his friend, so Im happy for him to stay
Ohh a lot of people do, or are saying they do. Check out the other thread on this :laugh2:
Hope Springs
31-01-2015, 08:15 PM
I remember in the house, the American made a threat against another housemate, someone will tell me for sure who it was, saying, if I was you, I'd be worried about my safety outside this house, or words similar....
I hope he heeds his own warning.... because I really do think he should be.
Hope Springs
31-01-2015, 08:16 PM
:laugh: Perez is only good with words. He's not really a violent man. More likely to run off when threatened with it.
Perez is good with words? Really? :nono:
How pathetic of us to take rape threats serious...
Chuckyegg
31-01-2015, 08:27 PM
All the housemates behaviour and threats and big brothers double standards and manipulation of the public.
Lets just condone it by continuing to watch.
mizzy25
31-01-2015, 09:11 PM
It certainly wasn't a joke.
ebandit
31-01-2015, 09:30 PM
so pez drops his tiny tears 'cos he is afeared for his personal safety
.......then threatens others
there are many things one 'does not do ' pez did 2 and was correctly
warned
Mark L
JoshBB
31-01-2015, 11:21 PM
violent sexual threats is something to take seriously and if you saw it as humour then.. idk.. make your own coclusion.
^
this
smudgie
31-01-2015, 11:28 PM
I don't think he was joking as such with Callum...he just said shove it up your arse to begin with then when he saw Callum getting riled this changed to the huge dick up your arse thing. He's just a troll. I don't understand how anyone can take him seriously, and honestly...LOL at those saying it was a serious rape threat. Give your heads a wobble :p
Yep.
I am pretty sure most rapists don't threaten their victim in front of others with millions of viewers looking in.
He was being offensive, but hardly actually threatening rape.
Ive shared your comment on Facebook ,I will let you know what response it gets
Ffs
Pennie
01-02-2015, 01:26 AM
I don't believe it was said with any actual intent, but it is clearly not okay to threaten someone with sexual violence/rape, even if intended as a joke (which it wasn't - he was genuinely irritated), whether it be man to man, man to a woman, whatever. Not okay.
Northern Monkey
01-02-2015, 01:44 AM
It does'nt matter if it was a joke which i don't think it was as it was said aggressively.You just can't say it to somebody.He should be gone no question.It is indefensable.
jaxie
01-02-2015, 01:58 AM
Now you are really making yourself look silly .......... rape is funny is it ?
He didn't rape anyone. Hopkins has said some horrible things but you don't seem to have a problem with any of them. Double standards.
Semtex
01-02-2015, 06:29 AM
He should have said Epilator. That could have been worth another 50K onto his fee.
C5 have no consistancy with their punishments, It seems like the more you are payed, the more you are protected.
the truth
01-02-2015, 06:31 AM
callum called him a penis , perez lose his rag and said ill stick it up your ass, big deal...heat of the moment nonsense/...yet bully Hopkins threatens to poison his drinks calls his a bad father smashes up property and makes several physical threats
-Sue-
01-02-2015, 06:33 AM
callum called him a penis , perez lose his rag and said ill stick it up your ass, big deal...heat of the moment nonsense/...yet bully Hopkins threatens to poison his drinks calls his a bad father smashes up property and makes several physical threats
Exactly BB seem to have 1 rule for hopkins (do what you like) and 1 for everyone else:nono:
Jack The Cat
01-02-2015, 08:20 AM
callum called him a penis , perez lose his rag and said ill stick it up your ass, big deal...heat of the moment nonsense/...yet bully Hopkins threatens to poison his drinks calls his a bad father smashes up property and makes several physical threats
The rabbit was not owned by Perez it was owned by big brother.
ebandit
01-02-2015, 08:25 AM
callum called him a penis , perez lose his rag and said ill stick it up your ass, big deal...heat of the moment nonsense/...yet bully Hopkins threatens to poison his drinks calls his a bad father smashes up property and makes several physical threats
what truth? selective truth?................people often say you're a dick it's
not eactly outrageously offensive......................but 'i'm going to stick
my fat penis up your arse'...............how many times do you here that?
.....................think
Mark L
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 08:29 AM
what truth? selective truth?................people often say you're a dick it's
not eactly outrageously offensive......................but 'i'm going to stick
my fat penis up your arse'...............how many times do you here that?
.....................think
Mark L
THEN to go on to say "If Calum would allow it I would " while his carer in a tone you would speak to someone with learning difficulties told him "thats a bit naughty "
MrWong
01-02-2015, 08:32 AM
If the offensive things Perez says are just a joke why does the whiny little **** get so bent out of shape and run to the diary room with the rule book when someone says something to him?
Katie H tells him to take it like a man and he screams homophobia, runs to the diary room, cries and asks to see his lawyer.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 08:32 AM
If the offensive things Perez says are just a joke why does the whiny little **** get so bent out of shape and run to the diary room with the rule book when someone says something to him?
Katie H tells him to take it like a man and he screams homophobia, runs to the diary room, cries and asks to see his lawyer.
:clap1:
Kazanne
01-02-2015, 08:48 AM
When he says he wants to stick his penis in Calum he is clearly joking. Even with the staring at Alex it was just fun really but everyone seems to blow up and take it soooooooooooo serious.
He is a funny man and funny people make jokes for God's sake.
Who said he's a funny man? maybe he is to you,he certainly isn't funny to me,infact I find it hard to even call him a 'man' for Gods sake
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 08:50 AM
Who said he's a funny man? maybe he is to you,he certainly isn't funny to me,infact I find it hard to even call him a 'man' for Gods sake
Calling that freak of nature a man is an insult to all men
Prezes's explanation in the diary room and subsequently in the garden, made it very clear he was NOT joking.
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 10:38 AM
If a man said it to a woman it would be deemed a threat of rape similar to those tweets to rape a person. There is a difference however of opportunity. Perez could not rape Callum, he is too strong. So threatening a woman is worse, because opportunity is pretty much guaranteed. This threat by Perez falls closer to intent to provoke violence. I'm not sure of the legal term for that.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 10:40 AM
If a man said it to a woman it would be deemed a threat of rape similar to those tweets to rape a person. There is a difference however of opportunity. Perez could not rape Callum, he is too strong. So threatening a woman is worse, because opportunity is pretty much guaranteed. This threat by Perez falls closer to intent to provoke violence. I'm not sure of the legal term for that.
What a load of utter bolloks ,Rape is rape
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 10:41 AM
What a load of utter bolloks ,Rape is rape
Your reply doesn't work with what I wrote, it's off tangent.
Denver
01-02-2015, 10:46 AM
If a man said it to a woman it would be deemed a threat of rape similar to those tweets to rape a person. There is a difference however of opportunity. Perez could not rape Callum, he is too strong. So threatening a woman is worse, because opportunity is pretty much guaranteed. This threat by Perez falls closer to intent to provoke violence. I'm not sure of the legal term for that.
Even strong people can be raped so this comment is invalid imo
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 10:49 AM
Even strong people can be raped so this comment is invalid imo
It's about Perez vs Calum.
Change it to Calum vs Alicia it's worse.
I mean there are degrees of what people are capable of.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 10:49 AM
He didn't rape anyone. Hopkins has said some horrible things but you don't seem to have a problem with any of them. Double standards.
Threat of rape is a criminal offence, therefore he should have been removed from the house
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 10:50 AM
It's about Perez vs Calum.
Change it to Calum vs Alicia it's worse.
I mean there are degrees of what people are capable of.
Rape is rape, end of and anal rape towards a none gay man is IMO worse
Jamesy
01-02-2015, 10:52 AM
By that logic a strong woman could not be raped too, because she is strong... what a silly thing to say. What happens if they're drugged or knocked out? Not so strong then are they...
Saying you will shove your dick inside someone can be perceived as a rape threat whatever sexes are involved.
I actually cannot believe people are attempting to defend a comment that could be perceived as a rape threat :umm2:
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 10:52 AM
Rape is rape, end of and anal rape towards a none gay man is IMO worse
There was no rape though. You are speaking as though it happened, which is off tangent to the discussion.
Denver
01-02-2015, 10:52 AM
It's about Perez vs Calum.
Change it to Calum vs Alicia it's worse.
I mean there are degrees of what people are capable of.
Maybe research it before commenting more? :shrug:
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 10:53 AM
There was no rape though. You are speaking as though it happened, which is off tangent to the discussion.
Threat of rape is an offence
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 10:53 AM
Maybe research it before commenting more? :shrug:
I don't need to, intelligence over-rules words written on paper.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 10:53 AM
By that logic a strong woman could not be raped too, because she is strong... what a silly thing to say. What happens if they're drugged or knocked out? Not so strong then are they...
Saying you will shove your dick inside someone can be perceived as a rape threat whatever sexes are involved.
I actually cannot believe people are attempting to defend a comment that could be perceived as a rape threat :umm2:
Sod the perceived it was a rape threat
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 10:54 AM
Threat of rape is an offence
Yeah, but you can't keep changing the subject back to rape. So stick to just the threat.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 10:55 AM
Yeah, but you can't keep changing the subject back to rape. So stick to just the threat.
He threatened rape so how can i change the subject ?
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 11:05 AM
He threatened rape so how can i change the subject ?
Well you do, you keep bringing up examples of actual rape.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 11:06 AM
Well you do, you keep bringing up examples of actual rape.
It was YOU who sickly said rape is not as bad towards a man
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 11:07 AM
It was YOU who sickly said rape is not as bad towards a man
You have done it again, and switched back to actual rape. I said that the threat was worse when it is guaranteed possible. Worse than threatening behaviour towards an impossible end.
Rhysii05
01-02-2015, 11:09 AM
Now you are really making yourself look silly .......... rape is funny is it ?
how can you call it rape when Perez didn't even touch him
KingOfTheMods
01-02-2015, 11:10 AM
When he says he wants to stick his penis in Calum he is clearly joking. Even with the staring at Alex it was just fun really but everyone seems to blow up and take it soooooooooooo serious.
He is a funny man and funny people make jokes for God's sake.
Winding a 60 odd year old man up to the point where he has to leave because he's afraid of losing his temper isn't funny or acceptable.
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 11:20 AM
Winding a 60 odd year old man up to the point where he has to leave because he's afraid of losing his temper isn't funny or acceptable.
Look at the words you have written again. If he is 60 and can not control his rage and anger then yes he should be asked to leave the show for the safety of the other contestants. All Perez this was unmask that trait at the expense of his own safety and to the benefit of the other housemates.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 11:22 AM
Winding a 60 odd year old man up to the point where he has to leave because he's afraid of losing his temper isn't funny or acceptable.
:clap1: How ANYONE can think it is right makes me feel sick
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 11:23 AM
how can you call it rape when Perez didn't even touch him
I have said over and over THREAT of rape, please keep up,and Jeremy didn't touch Chloe ,but was made to leave
Jamesy
01-02-2015, 11:25 AM
You have done it again, and switched back to actual rape. I said that the threat was worse when it is guaranteed possible. Worse than threatening behaviour towards an impossible end.
You are the one who said a threat rape against a woman is worse than a threat rape against a man. So you brought up the word of rape first. Stop trying to turn it around and actually engage in a debate.
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 11:27 AM
You are the one who said a threat rape against a woman is worse than a threat rape against a man. So you brought up the word of rape first. Stop trying to turn it around and actually engage in a debate.
It' not about the word 'rape'. Rape is to actually commit the assault. Threat of rape is verbal.
Look, a man holding a bomb says "I am going to blow you all up with this bomb!"
Is worse than a man holding a sandwich and saying "I am going to blow you all up with this sandwich!"
When there are degrees of damage those degrees count.
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 11:38 AM
It' not about the word 'rape'. Rape is to actually commit the assault. Threat of rape is verbal.
Look, a man holding a bomb says "I am going to blow you all up with this bomb!"
Is worse than a man holding a sandwich and saying "I am going to blow you all up with this sandwich!"
When there are degrees of damage those degrees count.
Plus in the eyes of the law its about "INTENT"
So with Perez what was his true Intent? well if we are adult and honest we can say it was something said in anger with out any real weight behind it. It was also a selection of words used a foul language substitute. So Perez said I am going to shove my fist down your throat. Do we take that as literal act he will carry out? no of course not.
So the facts are Perez said something in a rage and in the diary the fact he took it all as a joke shows his true intent which was one of banter in a heated argument and no more.
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 11:41 AM
You are the one who said a threat rape against a woman is worse than a threat rape against a man. So you brought up the word of rape first. Stop trying to turn it around and actually engage in a debate.
:clap1:
chuff me dizzy
01-02-2015, 11:42 AM
It' not about the word 'rape'. Rape is to actually commit the assault. Threat of rape is verbal.
Look, a man holding a bomb says "I am going to blow you all up with this bomb!"
Is worse than a man holding a sandwich and saying "I am going to blow you all up with this sandwich!"
When there are degrees of damage those degrees count.
Threat of rape is an offence ,thats good enough
Pincho Paxton
01-02-2015, 11:43 AM
Threat of rape is an offence ,thats good enough
Well you have said that you would pay to watch him be killed, what's that then?
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7554953&postcount=6
Plus in the eyes of the law its about "INTENT"
So with Perez what was his true Intent? well if we are adult and honest we can say it was something said in anger with out any real weight behind it. It was also a selection of words used a foul language substitute. So Perez said I am going to shove my fist down your throat. Do we take that as literal act he will carry out? no of course not.
So the facts are Perez said something in a rage and in the diary the fact he took it all as a joke shows his true intent which was one of banter in a heated argument and no more.
So it was said in anger and not as a joke then ... invalidates your whole thread
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 11:45 AM
So it was said in anger and not as a joke then ... invalidates your whole thread
The two are not mutually exclusive so no it does not.
The two are not mutually exclusive so no it does not.
Yes yes, everyone full of anger is joking :sleep:
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 11:49 AM
Yes yes, everyone full of anger is joking :sleep:
You will see there are many angry comedians in fact it more the norm than not. Look again and you will see the truth in this.
MrWong
01-02-2015, 11:50 AM
Look at the words you have written again. If he is 60 and can not control his rage and anger then yes he should be asked to leave the show for the safety of the other contestants. All Perez this was unmask that trait at the expense of his own safety and to the benefit of the other housemates.
I think most people with a brain are aware that if you keep poking a lion with a stick it's gonna turn around and bite you.
He saw Alexander as an easy target because, as Perez put it (whilst in the cage with Cami Li and Nadia) Alexander was an ex drug abuser that seemed to be struggling.
Perez is a malicious **** if you ask me.
your reaching is beyond belief, i'm out
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 11:57 AM
I think most people with a brain are aware that if you keep poking a lion with a stick it's gonna turn around and bite you.
He saw Alexander as an easy target because, as Perez put it (whilst in the cage with Cami Li and Nadia) Alexander was an ex drug abuser that seemed to be struggling.
Perez is a malicious **** if you ask me.
I do understand your anger when i view from the place you are looking. However look at the words you have chosen to describe Alexander. A lion is a deadly killer and combine that with a drug abuser and you have a recipe for danger in a closed environment. I honestly believe Perez being a very intelligent man knew this and was worried not only for his own safety (as he told BB many times) but also for his fellow housemates. So he simply drew the lion out so BB could see this as prior to his concerns they had not taken them seriously. So when the true homophobic and angry Alex turned up BB then acted in the safey of all concerned thanks to Perez.
MrWong
01-02-2015, 12:02 PM
I do understand your anger when i view from the place you are looking. However look at the words you have chosen to describe Alexander. A lion is a deadly killer and combine that with a drug abuser and you have a recipe for danger in a closed environment. I honestly believe Perez being a very intelligent man knew this and was worried not only for his own safety (as he told BB many times) but also for his fellow housemates. So he simply drew the lion out so BB could see this as prior to his concerns they had not taken them seriously. So when the true homophobic and angry Alex turned up BB then acted in the safey of all concerned thanks to Perez.
There's only danger if you poke the lion though. He'd have been fine without Perez baiting him.
Look at Alexander's reaction to being called a big fat negro, in a southern accent by Ken. His response was calm and measured.
Deebo
01-02-2015, 12:04 PM
When he says he wants to stick his penis in Calum he is clearly joking. Even with the staring at Alex it was just fun really but everyone seems to blow up and take it soooooooooooo serious.
He is a funny man and funny people make jokes for God's sake.
Just like there's a few bitter, joyless miseryguts' in the house, there are bitter, joyless miseryguts' outside of it, and they HATE people being funny
Hopkins hates Perez because he's funny and she isn't. People who don't get invited to parties complain about parties on their street. Insecure bores hate the popular office joker
It's just human nature sadly. Just as the house is divided along the lines of those capable of having a laugh and those not (Perez vs Hopkins), so is society, the voting public, the street, the office, any community
But those of us who've enjoyed Perez' antics and controlling of situations should just enjoy it. He obviously doesn't care what the joy-vacuums think
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 12:08 PM
Just like there's a few bitter, joyless miseryguts' in the house, there are bitter, joyless miseryguts' outside of it, and they HATE people being funny
Hopkins hates Perez because he's funny and she isn't. People who don't get invited to parties complain about parties on their street. Insecure bores hate the popular office joker
It's just human nature sadly. Just as the house is divided along the lines of those capable of having a laugh and those not (Perez vs Hopkins), so is society, the voting public, the street, the office, any community
But those of us who've enjoyed Perez' antics and controlling of situations should just enjoy it. He obviously doesn't care what the joy-vacuums think
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mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 12:11 PM
There's only danger if you poke the lion though. He'd have been fine without Perez baiting him.
Look at Alexander's reaction to being called a big fat negro, in a southern accent by Ken. His response was calm and measured.
Don't be taken in by surface appearances. Ken's comments were simply the first brick removed from a a very large dam. If you also remember he said to Ken he would violently beaten if he said those things in the US. I took the US to mean himself. It was subtle but was there. Then as Perez removed another brick the dam started to break and this is when the rage and nastiness became a torrent he could not control.
Philanthropite
01-02-2015, 12:17 PM
I love that the last thread was closed and someone just started up another one.
Take a big sniff because this entire topic reeks of bull****.
Perez didn't seriously mean to take action upon his words to rape Calum. If you think otherwise you are 1. a troll 2. insane 3. blind.
Yet again everyone mutually agrees he was in the wrong but they were baseless angry words sent Calums way.
Also people are talking like raping Calum was a viable option to Perez. The guy would knock him straight the **** out if he tried anything, not to mention he's almost twice his size (in terms of build) and looks like he weighs a lot more as well.
Get real delusional people.
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 12:20 PM
Get real delusional people.
They hate him because they ain't him.
Perez is a really fun and warm guy just people don't get his Hollywood humour sometimes.
Philanthropite
01-02-2015, 12:22 PM
They hate him because they ain't him.
Perez is a really fun and warm guy just people don't get his Hollywood humour sometimes.
Yeah but I'm not here to defend Perez I'm just telling it how it is. He does plenty of stuff where he's in the wrong and he should have chosen his words more carefully but it was as plain as day that there was no intent behind what he said.
He would never actually rape Calum, period.
Deebo
01-02-2015, 12:25 PM
Also people are talking like raping Calum was a viable option to Perez. The guy would knock him straight the **** out if he tried anything, not to mention he's almost twice his size (in terms of build) and looks like he weighs a lot more as well.
Get real delusional people.
It's totally desperate. People get so invested in their favourite housemates they wind up suffering with cognitive dissonance
There's some trolling in it, but I genuinely think some of her fans think Perez intended to rape Callum. Just as some of her fans claim to find her attractive (that's beyond insane) or refuse to acknowledge the fact that her extremists right wing views attract votes from extreme right wing groups, even when it is proven to them
I even read a post where someone claimed her use of the word "dollop" was hysterical! :laugh:
mazerunner_888
01-02-2015, 12:27 PM
Yeah but I'm not here to defend Perez I'm just telling it how it is. He does plenty of stuff where he's in the wrong and he should have chosen his words more carefully but it was as plain as day that there was no intent behind what he said.
He would never actually rape Calum, period.
Of course not its obvious to everyone but some people are using that so hate on Perez and try and derail him.
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