IS have murdered the Jordanian Pilot (Burnt Alive)

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1418955/japan-investigating-hostage-murder-video


sad news the japan hostage was killed

Link for Kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/31/isis-video-beheading-japanese-hostage-kenji-goto

[Ninastar]

Horrific. I cannot wait for the day that they get what they deserve.

[smudgie]

Inevitable I thnk.


Murdering scum.

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

They seem to want muslims hated worldwide.

[user104658]

:sad:

They seem to want muslims hated worldwide.

Won't make much difference in Japan - they already hate everyone except themselves and white people. The only significant non-Japanese groups living in Japan are Korean and Chinese. But Japanese people hate them, too.

(I am not being flippant with this, multiculturalism is genuinely not a "thing" in Japan).

[JoshBB]

Oh for gods sake, when will people learn that more coverage and attention means they continue?? just ban people from entering these countries and stop giving them money

[GypsyGoth]

Won't make much difference in Japan - they already hate everyone except themselves and white people. The only significant non-Japanese groups living in Japan are Korean and Chinese. But Japanese people hate them, too.

(I am not being flippant with this, multiculturalism is genuinely not a "thing" in Japan).

You seem to have a pretty racist attitude towards the japanese. I'm guessing you've never met anyone from japan.

[JoshBB]

You seem to have a pretty racist attitude towards the japanese. I'm guessing you've never met anyone from japan.

I thought this too - unless anyone has been in japan and/or studied japanese society they can not make a judgement like that

[Mystic Mock]

:sad:

They seem to want muslims hated worldwide.

Oh don't worry it's already happened.

It's a shame really as I have known quite a few nice and moderate Muslims, but for some reason their higher ups in the Religion brainwash a good chunk of their followers into thinking that none practicing Muslims are the enemy, it's a really sad sight to see and now two innocent people have lost their lives because of it.

[Mystic Mock]

I thought this too - unless anyone has been in japan and/or studied japanese society they can not make a judgement like that

The only thing that I've heard about the Japanese is that some of them get scared when seeing a foreigner on the street, it might just be a case of that the people aren't used to it though because 90% of the country is Japanese people.

[user104658]

I thought this too - unless anyone has been in japan and/or studied japanese society they can not make a judgement like that

It's pretty well known to be the case...

[JoshBB]

It's pretty well known to be the case...

don't believe stereotypes and rumours.

[user104658]

don't believe stereotypes and rumours.
It's not "stereotypes and rumours", it is an established and problematic issue in Japanese society. I am not saying that all Japanese people are racist, all I'm saying is that there is already a high level of cultural xenophobia within Japan, and while these terrorist incidents obviously won't help matters, they certainly won't be the "start" of anything.

It honestly would not be hard for you to look some of this up for yourself. It's not "gossip", Ffs, it's a major problem faced by foreigners trying to live and work in Japan. You can't just dismiss it as hearsay because you'd rather it wasn't true.

[kirklancaster]

It's not "stereotypes and rumours", it is an established and problematic issue in Japanese society. I am not saying that all Japanese people are racist, all I'm saying is that there is already a high level of cultural xenophobia within Japan, and while these terrorist incidents obviously won't help matters, they certainly won't be the "start" of anything.

It honestly would not be hard for you to look some of this up for yourself. It's not "gossip", Ffs, it's a major problem faced by foreigners trying to live and work in Japan. You can't just dismiss it as hearsay because you'd rather it wasn't true.

Yet another atrocious act of evil by these Islamic extremist monsters against yet another innocent, helpless human being, and yet another trio of posts on a thread specifically about this act of barbarism, which make no comment about it and makes no condemnation of it, but instead attacks the Japanese with unwarranted and unfounded accusations of racism and xenophobia.

:shrug:

Just for the record: This is not a personal attack on you, but merely legitimate comment on the nature and content of your posts.

[kirklancaster]

"You seem to have a pretty racist attitude towards the japanese. I'm guessing you've never met anyone from japan."
:clap1::clap1::clap1:

QUOTE: Originally Posted by JoshBB
"I thought this too - unless anyone has been in japan and/or studied japanese society they can not make a judgement like that"

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[kirklancaster]

http://news.sky.com/story/1418955/japan-investigating-hostage-murder-video

sad news just breaking

Link for Kizzy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/31/isis-video-beheading-japanese-hostage-kenji-goto

What else can we expect from these demonic murdering bastards?

Their prophet waged offensive wars and fought more than 78 historic battles of which only one - the Battle of Ditch - was a defensive war, and during which wars, millions were either beheaded, or slaughtered in other ways upon his command.

Their Quran contains over 109 verses that command Muslims to wage war with non-Muslims for the sake of Islamic rule. Among such orders are commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill any infidels who will not convert to Islam.

What else can we expect?

[user104658]

Yet another atrocious act of evil by these Islamic extremist monsters against yet another innocent, helpless human being, and yet another trio of posts on a thread specifically about this act of barbarism, which make no comment about it and makes no condemnation of it, but instead attacks the Japanese with unwarranted and unfounded accusations of racism and xenophobia.

Hmmm OK most of that is actually fair enough, looking back. I should have at least included acknowledgement that I do agree that another innocent person being murdered is horrific. Of course it's horrific. It almost goes without saying. It's not like I read the thread and didn't think it awful - I just find very little worth in simply posting on a thread to offer up another "me too", "me too", "and me" post and then something else catches my eye and I go off on a tangent.

I can actually appreciate, on reflection, that there's an issue of it not being the "time or place" to go on such tangents and so for that I apologise.

I will even therefore accept "unwarranted" even, given that this was an inappropriate thread.

However, now that it's out there, I have to reiterate again that it is not "unfounded" at all. I actually love Japanese culture, have done since my early teens... It is a unique and fascinating culture: a beautiful mixed bag of the very traditional and the ultra modern. It is however, nothing at all like Western culture. In this world, that usually means "backwards". With Japan, it genuinely just means "totally different". Also, my best friend's brother studied and worked there for 3 years, I've heard many first hand accounts from him, again not scathing - you won't meet anyone who loves Japan more - just fascinating.

I would recommend anyone to do some reading and study on Japan, both historical and modern. You won't regret spending time learning about the country. Like I said, I adore Japanese culture, I am certainly not slating or attacking the Japanese. But if you do happen to properly look into it... I absolutely promise you that you will encounter lots (and lots) of discussion about the issues with diversity and acceptance within Japan. It's not an attack, it's just a fact. Japan is nearly 99% Japanese by birth and the small communities of Chinese and Koreans that make up almost the whole of the extra % are not well accepted or integrated. Muslim population is 0.0005%. Again though, people are free to check all of this out for themselves? There IS an issue with Xenophobia within Japan. This is NOT and attack or a condemnation, it's a simple observation. Again I will conceed though - wrong place and time to have commented on it.

Just for the record: This is not a personal attack on you, but merely legitimate comment on the nature and content of your posts.

Yes Kirk I appreciate that, you managed to completely avoid name-calling! Perhaps we are evolving.

[kirklancaster]

Hmmm OK most of that is actually fair enough, looking back. I should have at least included acknowledgement that I do agree that another innocent person being murdered is horrific. Of course it's horrific. It almost goes without saying. It's not like I read the thread and didn't think it awful - I just find very little worth in simply posting on a thread to offer up another "me too", "me too", "and me" post and then something else catches my eye and I go off on a tangent.

I can actually appreciate, on reflection, that there's an issue of it not being the "time or place" to go on such tangents and so for that I apologise.

I will even therefore accept "unwarranted" even, given that this was an inappropriate thread.

However, now that it's out there, I have to reiterate again that it is not "unfounded" at all. I actually love Japanese culture, have done since my early teens... It is a unique and fascinating culture: a beautiful mixed bag of the very traditional and the ultra modern. It is however, nothing at all like Western culture. In this world, that usually means "backwards". With Japan, it genuinely just means "totally different". Also, my best friend's brother studied and worked there for 3 years, I've heard many first hand accounts from him, again not scathing - you won't meet anyone who loves Japan more - just fascinating.

I would recommend anyone to do some reading and study on Japan, both historical and modern. You won't regret spending time learning about the country. Like I said, I adore Japanese culture, I am certainly not slating or attacking the Japanese. But if you do happen to properly look into it... I absolutely promise you that you will encounter lots (and lots) of discussion about the issues with diversity and acceptance within Japan. It's not an attack, it's just a fact. Japan is nearly 99% Japanese by birth and the small communities of Chinese and Koreans that make up almost the whole of the extra % are not well accepted or integrated. Muslim population is 0.0005%. Again though, people are free to check all of this out for themselves? There IS an issue with Xenophobia within Japan. This is NOT and attack or a condemnation, it's a simple observation. Again I will conceed though - wrong place and time to have commented on it.



Yes Kirk I appreciate that, you managed to completely avoid name-calling! Perhaps we are evolving.

It is my intention from now on T.S. that we do remain civil, and I thank you for responding civilly.

I also accept your explanation, and will concede that that your reasons for your stance on Japan was due to your personal knowledge and not intended to be an attack.

Finally, I will admit that, had you condemned this latest terrorist atrocity and it had not been an 'oversight', it would have tempered my reaction.

[Nedusa]

Yet another atrocious act of evil by these Islamic extremist monsters against yet another innocent, helpless human being, and yet another trio of posts on a thread specifically about this act of barbarism, which make no comment about it and makes no condemnation of it, but instead attacks the Japanese with unwarranted and unfounded accusations of racism and xenophobia.

:shrug:

Just for the record: This is not a personal attack on you, but merely legitimate comment on the nature and content of your posts.

:cheer2::worship::worship::worship::worship:

[arista]

the 2nd hostage was burned alive in a cage
by Evil IS


New video

http://news.sky.com/story/1420656/is-says-jordanian-pilot-burned-alive-in-video

[kirklancaster]

the 2nd hostagwas burned alive
by Evil IS

New video

http://news.sky.com/story/1420656/is-says-jordanian-pilot-burned-alive-in-video

We are all beyond hope. I detest these demons and all those who appease them and make excuses for them and refuse to condemn them.

"Eloi, eloi, lama sabachthani"

[Brother Leon]

Bloody hell. I ****ing stumbled across the pics.


Torture or death by Fire is literally prohibited in Bukhari and Nasai and yet they continue to be contradictory pricks that are doing nothing but bad for "their religion".

[Samm]

They're gonna regret messing with Japan

[Nedusa]

Won't make much difference in Japan - they already hate everyone except themselves and white people. The only significant non-Japanese groups living in Japan are Korean and Chinese. But Japanese people hate them, too.

(I am not being flippant with this, multiculturalism is genuinely not a "thing" in Japan).

Hang on a minute..........just because the Japanese don't want their Country turned into a cesspit of steaming Multiculturalism, doesn't mean they HATE everyone.

It just means they value their way of life it is harmonious and peaceful and they relish their customs and culture and have no burning ambition to invite every other Culture, race and religion from God's good Earth to move in with them....ffs

:shrug::shrug::shrug:






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[smudgie]

Words about fail me, at least, words that are printable.

Beheading is barbaric, but burning someone alive is pure evil.
That poor man must have suffered beyond belief.


To call these people animals would be an insult to animals.

[Nedusa]

I fear these ISIS creatures are not interested in the Religious side of their words and actions they are lovers of sadism and worship that particular Devil.

In fact they are no better than devil worshippers who revel in carrying out the most evil inhumane acts of slaughter their warped minds can conceive, but all justified through their strange belief that it is holy and divine and the Word of a Loving God to gruesomely murder innocent people.

The West will eventually scrape this vermin off their shoes and it will be cold, clinical and thorough. (Hopefully)




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[arista]

But they keep expanding
That Pilot was yet another Victory to those Evil Terrorist Muslims

[kirklancaster]

I fear these ISIS creatures are not interested in the Religious side of their words and actions they are lovers of sadism and worship that particular Devil.

In fact they are no better than devil worshippers who revel in carrying out the most evil inhumane acts of slaughter their warped minds can conceive, but all justified through their strange belief that it is holy and divine and the Word of a Loving God to gruesomely murder innocent people.

The West will eventually scrape this vermin off their shoes and it will be cold, clinical and thorough. (Hopefully)

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:clap1::clap1::clap1: More truth superbly expressed.

[user104658]

I fear these ISIS creatures are not interested in the Religious side of their words and actions they are lovers of sadism and worship that particular Devil.

In fact they are no better than devil worshippers who revel in carrying out the most evil inhumane acts of slaughter their warped minds can conceive, but all justified through their strange belief that it is holy and divine and the Word of a Loving God to gruesomely murder innocent people.

The West will eventually scrape this vermin off their shoes and it will be cold, clinical and thorough. (Hopefully)




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It will be brutal, messy and inefficient like everything else we do and you know it. We use the sledgehammer, never the scalpel. By "we" I don't mean the West, by the way, I mean our entire species... Expecting this unholy mess to be fixed in any sort of efficient manner is very optimistic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It really is just a bunch of thick clueless young men in chaos

The human need to feel important can sadly lead to this as much as it can lead to someone being a scout leader or the chair of a parish council

[kirklancaster]

It really is just a bunch of thick clueless young men in chaos

The human need to feel important can sadly lead to this as much as it can lead to someone being a scout leader or the chair of a parish council

Except Scout Leaders and Chairmen of Parish Councils do not set defenseless living people on fire and gleefully watch them burn to death, or behead innocent captives, or shoot dead 240 innocent schoolchildren.

[kirklancaster]

It will be brutal, messy and inefficient like everything else we do and you know it. We use the sledgehammer, never the scalpel. By "we" I don't mean the West, by the way, I mean our entire species... Expecting this unholy mess to be fixed in any sort of efficient manner is very optimistic.

I cannot help but note that this post - once again - not only fails to condemn these Islamic terrorists, but actually manages to blame all Mankind for their bestial, abhorrent evil acts. :shrug:

Could I - once again - ask you just what you would propose as the best way of dealing with these scum murderers?

[kirklancaster]

But they keep expanding
That Pilot was yet another Victory to those Evil Terrorist Muslims

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Except Scout Leaders and Chairmen of Parish Councils do not set defenseless living people on fire and gleefully watch them burn to death, or behead innocent captives, or shoot dead 240 innocent schoolchildren.

no but it is part of the spectrum

humans are varied

[kirklancaster]

no but it is part of the spectrum

humans are varied

They're not worthy as being classified as humans LT.

[user104658]

I cannot help but note that this post - once again - not only fails to condemn these Islamic terrorists, but actually manages to blame all Mankind for their bestial, abhorrent evil acts. :shrug:

This is completely baseless, how on earth does what I said amount to "blaming all mankind for terrorism"? I'm genuinely interested to hear how, exactly, you managed to jump to that conclusion.

Could I - once again - ask you just what you would propose as the best way of dealing with these scum murderers?

The best way of dealing with it would be to be cold, clinical and thorough. Just as Nedusa stated. I didn't say that it shouldn't be dealt with in that way. I said that it WON'T be, because human beings are hot-headed, reactionary and clumsy, and apparently not capable of dealing with this issue by doing much more than wailing into the wind and flailing our arms like children.

[user104658]

They're not worthy as being classified as humans LT.
Again Kirk what you have to remember is that the reason you can't accept them as human is because you think of humanity as being good. That somehow, refusing to denounce their humanity is condoning their actions or saying that they aren't worthless scum.

I think you struggle to understand that some of us just realise that "human beings" are an absolutely ****ing horrible species. Some of us are worse than others, of course. Some of us try our very hardest to be good. But when it comes down to it, human beings are vain, egotistical, fearful and cruel.

Saying that they are "human" is not a compliment. It's just the horrible truth. We should never forget it - because to forget it, is to stop working every day to make sure that we don't all become just as depraved.

I fully expect you to vehemently reject this notion.

[InOne]

There's only so far they can keep pushing before there's a massive reaction. Which is what they want of course.

[Kazanne]

This is also disgusting,what is this world coming to?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/isis-militants-are-using-mentally-challenged-children-as-suicide-bombers-and-crucifying-others-says-un-body/ar-AA8ZJGR

[jennyjuniper]

All my sympathy goes to the poor young man who was murdered and his parents who must be suffering terribly, knowing how much their son suffered.
For the monsters who did this I haven't a shred of mercy or sympathy. No arguement they could put forward would excuse this atrocity.

[Kizzy]

Again Kirk what you have to remember is that the reason you can't accept them as human is because you think of humanity as being good. That somehow, refusing to denounce their humanity is condoning their actions or saying that they aren't worthless scum.

I think you struggle to understand that some of us just realise that "human beings" are an absolutely ****ing horrible species. Some of us are worse than others, of course. Some of us try our very hardest to be good. But when it comes down to it, human beings are vain, egotistical, fearful and cruel.

Saying that they are "human" is not a compliment. It's just the horrible truth. We should never forget it - because to forget it, is to stop working every day to make sure that we don't all become just as depraved.

I fully expect you to vehemently reject this notion.

I think we in the west live in blissful ignorance, we are cocooned and the actions of our govts are covert to minimise any backlash.
When they are uncovered to be using torture it's excused to be in the national interest anyway.
Those killed will be seen as collateral damage in power games and it will go on and on as it always has for centuries this disgusting human tug of war.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/29/2528E2DD00000578-2931103-image-a-63_1422530338795.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/29/2528E2E300000578-2931103-image-a-59_1422530300577.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2940777/British-jihadi-justifies-brutal-death-Jordanian-pilot-regime-regular-street-cleaning.html

[sassysocks]

They are, always have been and always will be cowards - we all know it!

It's easy to plant bombs and brutally murder defenceless people - simply the act of backward cowards.

What is ironic is they make martyrs of people they allegedly hate whilst harping on about the wonders of being a martyr. Words are easy but few of them have the courage of their convictions. Instead they cold bloodedly murder those that cannot defend themselves and expect the world to fear them.

They are simple creatures with simple minds who are too stupid and too cowardly to ever pose a real threat to the world - that takes courage and intelligence - two important qualities they will never possess.

They either hide behind religion, like a comfort blanket, to cover their inadequacies as men and human beings or they are as thick as **** and actually believe their own bull****.

[Nedusa]

I think in future all pilots and crew will ensure they have their cyanide pills with them because this group will think up more sadistical and painful ways to kill their enemies.

They are clearly out of control and live only for the warped buzz they clearly get in inflicting pain on human beings.

I think the reaction is coming and it will be the Muslims and Arabs themselves that will have to put this ISIS dog out of its misery.




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[bots]

I think the reaction is coming and it will be the Muslims and Arabs themselves that will have to put this ISIS dog out of its misery.

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This is my opinion too, in fact, I think its the only viable long term solution