Perez, a broken man.

[abhorson]

Crying and feeling sorry for himself, which is of course is self inflicted Fake tears and still still his sick game or alcohol.

No one likes me and still not accepting why. KH has more balls than he does and wins no matter the final result.

He will still go back to his hate site

Opinions?

[Vanessa]

He's just extremely drunk. :joker:

[Smithy]

It's his own fault *skips around laughing at him*

[abhorson]

He's just extremely drunk. :joker:

Yep. Makes him cry and realise his nastiness.

[G1dds]

My opinion is, he's always the fecking victim gaaaaaah!!

[abhorson]

So he wants to make the final and never wanted to walk.

Alcohol = Truth.

[Loukas]

He made his bed, he should lay in it!

[Liam-]

More Perez Hilton crying scenes?.. Brilliant :love:

[Miranda123]

So he wants to make the final and never wanted to walk.

Alcohol = Truth.

it was only ever Nadia who believed that, its like she was on a different planet from the rest of us lol

[sampvt]

He has more side than a glitter ball and he thinks we will buy it, sorry but no, suffer you twat.

[Caballo]

Still unpleasant to watch even if he is a total bellsmash.

[GiRTh]

He's been deliberately isolated in there, tht was inevitable. Now cue the redemption story line.

[Ant.]

He's been deliberately isolated in there, tht was inevitable. Now cue the redemption story line.

Oh god no. Helen's redemption arc was so fake yet people believed it

[abhorson]

He's been deliberately isolated in there, tht was inevitable. Now cue the redemption story line.

Why was that?

[Pincho Paxton]

He's a nice bloke when he's a nice bloke.

[Miranda123]

He's just extremely drunk. :joker:

I thought he could handle his drink

Didnt he have a go at kav for drinking too much?

Such double standards from this guy, saying that, I dont like to see people cry and be alone, so I would probably go out to him and ask him what was wrong

If I couldnt cheer him up, Id give him some of my sleeping pills, well, the bottle, and leave him to it

Thats what a nice woman I am!

[abhorson]

He will be a twat again when sober. At least he is not a nasty drunk. More nasty when sober!

[bots]

he is an actor ... :laugh:

[sampvt]

Since when does a bottle make someone likable

[GiRTh]

Why was that?Huh???

[Pincho Paxton]

he is an actor ... :laugh:

He is human... :laugh:

[ebandit]

pez..................'i don't care what anyone thinks.....................'

then fake? tiny tears for cameras

alas i did smile when pez made himself centre of attention with stories etc

more than once HM's found reasons to be elsewhere

Mark L

[sampvt]

he is human... :laugh:

on what scientific data do you base thet on

[mazerunner_888]

He is an honest drunk unlike some one like kav who just turns nasty.

[erinp5]

He's just pissed

[abhorson]

Huh???

Read your question again. Regarding isolation.

Why was he isolated?

[GiRTh]

Read your question again. Regarding isolation.

Why was he isolated?Some of it may have been his own fault but the fake tweet didn't help the isolation.

[DemolitionRed]

He's just pissed

This^ and at least he didn't become aggressive.

Did I see an ounce of compassion in Cami Li tonight? Her expression was very sad and when she went back to the bedroom and the others wanted her to tell them what he was doing, she didn't bitch about him.

[abhorson]

Some of it may have been his own fault but the fake tweet didn't help the isolation.

The tweet was last week. The isolation began before that.

At least you admit it was his own fault.

[ebandit]

don't feel so sorry for tiny tears pez..............only earlier he were saying

'hope you all get diarrhea and take sick'

Mark L

[GiRTh]

The tweet was last week. The isolation began before that.

At least you admit it was his own fault.
Some of it was his won fault.

[Pincho Paxton]

on what scientific data do you base thet on

I mean the thing about being a great actor is that people can't tell if you are being real, or not. It's then left for people to decide if they are the glass half empty, or the glass half full... only a different scenario, but similar.

He gets an Oscar for breaking down the door to leave the house, and getting people to help him pack.

But tonight to me looked even more real than that. So I believe that he was really upset. It also seemed to be based on the 95% backlash that he has had. He did sort of half mention it.

Looked real.

[mazerunner_888]

This^ and at least he didn't become aggressive.

Did I see an ounce of compassion in Cami Li tonight? Her expression was very sad and when she went back to the bedroom and the others wanted her to tell them what he was doing, she didn't bitch about him.

Cami is rising up the vile board for me. She really is a horrible person.

[Kazanne]

Crying and feeling sorry for himself, which is of course is self inflicted Fake tears and still still his sick game or alcohol.

No one likes me and still not accepting why. KH has more balls than he does and wins no matter the final result.

He will still go back to his hate site

Opinions?

He's not broken ,it's all for show,nothing else has worked so now he's going for the pity vote,but you can guarantee some will fall for it.

[SaveUs]

I actually think it's really sad for a fully grown man to engage in that self sabotaging behavior over and over again.

[abhorson]

Some of it was his won fault.

Fair enough.

[abhorson]

He's not broken ,it's all for show,nothing else has worked so now he's going for the pity vote,but you can guarantee some will fall for it.

Going for this option.

[Jules2]

He is an honest drunk unlike some one like kav who just turns nasty.

Lets leave Kav out of this he hasnt done anything wrong other than to tell Keith to F off. I cant even remember why now but he apologised and they made it up. Keith has been a bit OCD in there and hasnt really joined in with the others. I thought they were both rilliant in the task, loved Keith comparing, he had it down to a T but felt sorry for Kav having to read out those horrible tweets which he did do brilliantly.

With Prez had Nadia been there he wouldnt have been so mournful, ok she was his friend. It is up to the others to go to him if they feel sorry for him so perhaps he is just crying out for attention after realising he has been a naughty boy. On the other hand he will be as bright as a button and back to normal service. He is a brilliant actor and he is trying to make himself the victim in something which he orchestrated.

[DemolitionRed]

I actually think it's really sad for a fully grown man to engage in that self sabotaging behavior over and over again.


Me too. If he was a child he would probably be diagnosed with ADHD. Adults get ADHD/ADD too but its seldom recognised as a condition.

Symptoms of ADHD/ADD in adults
http://www.helpguide.org/articles/add-adhd/adult-adhd-attention-deficit-disorder.htm

frequently interrupt others or talk over them
have poor self-control
blurt out thoughts that are rude or inappropriate without thinking
have addictive tendencies
act recklessly or spontaneously without regard for consequences
have trouble behaving in socially appropriate ways (such as sitting still during a long meeting)

[darkestcornwall]

Why doesn't he go in the shower, turn it on,throw up,go to sleep.It will be alright in the morning,:dance:

[joeysteele]

Sorry this will be long but you can choose not to read any of it anyway.
You know, often with alcohol, people open up more, often it is the only way people really tell you how they really feel and react to loss.

I saw no disrespect to him saying this has him feeling worse than when he lost his Father, okay it is a reality show, hehas lost his strongest ally and friend,namely Nadia.
He has come to catch on that just about all have issues with him.

He is likely at as low a point as losing someone to a death in there because of how it has turned out.

He is not blameless,obviously, a lot of his wilder antics have been when he was sober, oddly with alcohol,he becomes,it seems, more reflective.

After Nadia has gone, he probably has sunk really low, I think we got some real heartfelt words from him tonight.
He has irritated, he has annoyed and he has fuelled at times and been heavily in the arguments too.
That can explain why most of them don't like him,however to most of them left, he has not done really anything bad to them.

Not liking someone however, does not excuse, as he pointed out tonight, which hasn't always been shown although it has been touched on, that Katie Hopkins wanted everyone else to isolate/ostracise him, in his words like a leper.

That is compeletely wrong, that woman warrants a warning for even trying to suggest it never mind setting out to organise it.
It was very telling and I believe his version, because Cami was there while he was saying it all and she never challenged him on that statement or said katie Hopkins hadn't.

I don't believe it was for show at all, and it was more telling too that no one went to him to check he was okay, no matter what I thought of anyone, I would never leave them thinking they were so bad they should be ostracised by me or anyone else.

Support and defend Katie Hopkins all anyone likes to, I for one however would be blasting her with all power in me for even suggesting another human being should be ostracised just because she doesn't like them.
It is also against the BB rules, I recall James Jordan last series, being pulled up for helping make Gary feel possibly ostracised,in fact James was then guided by BB to look out for him.

How this woman has got away with this,is beyond me and I for one could never support the ostracising of anyone the way she has tried to do so with him in that house.
No matter his many faults and over the top behaviour like a child hyperactive after having too many sweets.

Dealing with someone as vindictive and uncompromising as Katie Hopkins must drain the life out of a great many people, it certainly would me

I don't choose to laugh at people crying either,he would be upset at losing his Father,when it happened,(mentioning it may have brought that time back to the forefront of his mind), he has also just lost his closest friend,strength and confidante in there, Nadia,he will be feeling really low.

There are always the times to be angry and irritated at someone for annoying you or insulting you even,as Perez has done to some in there.
However there are other times too, when a little calmer wording,sensitivity and a bit of compassion is the likely order of the day.
No matter what I thought of anyone, seeing someone like that tonight,would have seen me at their side, if they wanted me to be.
Not forgetting any bad behaviour from him but just showing some human compassion.
Staggering that we weren't shown anyone doing so.

Then we get that smug cretin Katie Hopkins asking where he was just to try to get more gloating and chances to bring him down.

She wants him isolated but then wants to know where he is, what he is saying and what he is doing.
A rotten scheming pile of scum is what that woman is and how I would love to tell her so one day,the first chance I get to I will too.

[Vanessa]

Sorry this will be long but you can choose not to read any of it anyway.
You know, often with alcohol, people open up more, often it is the only way people really tell you how they really feel and react to loss.

I saw no disrespect to him saying this has him feeling worse than when he lost his Father, okay it is a reality show, hehas lost his strongest ally and friend,namely Nadia.
He has come to catch on that just about all have issues with him.

He is likely at as low a point as losing someone to a death in there because of how it has turned out.

He is not blameless,obviously, a lot of his wilder antics have been when he was sober, oddly with alcohol,he becomes,it seems, more reflective.

After Nadia has gone, he probably has sunk really low, I think we got some real heartfelt words from him tonight.
He has irritated, he has annoyed and he has fuelled at times and been heavily in the arguments too.
That can explain why most of them don't like him,however to most of them left, he has not done really anything bad to them.

Not liking someone however, does not excuse, as he pointed out tonight, which hasn't always been shown although it has been touched on, that Katie Hopkins wanted everyone else to isolate/ostracise him, in his words like a leper.

That is compeletely wrong, that woman warrants a warning for even trying to suggest it never mind setting out to organise it.
It was very telling and I believe his version, because Cami was there while he was saying it all and she never challenged him on that statement or said katie Hopkins hadn't.

I don't believe it was for show at all, and it was more telling too that no one went to him to check he was okay, no matter what I thought of anyone, I would never leave them thinking they were so bad they should be ostracised by me or anyone else.

Support and defend Katie Hopkins all anyone likes to, I for one however would be blasting her with all power in me for even suggesting another human being should be ostracised just because she doesn't like them.
It is also against the BB rules, I recall James Jordan last series, being pulled up for helping make Gary feel possibly ostracised,in fact James was then guided by BB to look out for him.

How this woman has got away with this,is beyond me and I for one could never support the ostracising of anyone the way she has tried to do so with him in that house.
No matter his many faults and over the top behaviour like a child hyperactive after having too many sweets.

Dealing with someone as vindictive and uncompromising as Katie Hopkins must drain the life out of a great many people, it certainly would me

I don't choose to laugh at people crying either,he would be upset at losing his Father,when it happened,(mentioning it may have brought that time back to the forefront of his mind), he has also just lost his closest friend,strength and confidante in there, Nadia,he will be feeling really low.

There are always the times to be angry and irritated at someone for annoying you or insulting you even,as Perez has done to some in there.
However there are other times too, when a little calmer wording,sensitivity and a bit of compassion is the likely order of the day.
No matter what I thought of anyone, seeing someone like that tonight,would have seen me at their side, if they wanted me to be.
Not forgetting any bad behaviour from him but just showing some human compassion.
Staggering that we weren't showing anyone doing so.

Then we get that smug cretin Katie Hopkins asking where he was just to try to get more gloating and chances to bring him down.

She wants him isolated but then wants to know where he is, what he is saying and what he is doing.
A rotten scheming pile of scum is what that woman is and how I would love to tell her so one day,the first chance I get to I will too.

:clap1:

[D_LO_]

Different thread but same, old, pointless people commenting. Different words but same old pointless agenda.

Murderers don't get this much hate. Get some perspective, jesus.

[mazerunner_888]

Sorry this will be long but you can choose not to read any of it anyway.
You know, often with alcohol, people open up more, often it is the only way people really tell you how they really feel and react to loss.

I saw no disrespect to him saying this has him feeling worse than when he lost his Father, okay it is a reality show, hehas lost his strongest ally and friend,namely Nadia.
He has come to catch on that just about all have issues with him.

He is likely at as low a point as losing someone to a death in there because of how it has turned out.

He is not blameless,obviously, a lot of his wilder antics have been when he was sober, oddly with alcohol,he becomes,it seems, more reflective.

After Nadia has gone, he probably has sunk really low, I think we got some real heartfelt words from him tonight.
He has irritated, he has annoyed and he has fuelled at times and been heavily in the arguments too.
That can explain why most of them don't like him,however to most of them left, he has not done really anything bad to them.

Not liking someone however, does not excuse, as he pointed out tonight, which hasn't always been shown although it has been touched on, that Katie Hopkins wanted everyone else to isolate/ostracise him, in his words like a leper.

That is compeletely wrong, that woman warrants a warning for even trying to suggest it never mind setting out to organise it.
It was very telling and I believe his version, because Cami was there while he was saying it all and she never challenged him on that statement or said katie Hopkins hadn't.

I don't believe it was for show at all, and it was more telling too that no one went to him to check he was okay, no matter what I thought of anyone, I would never leave them thinking they were so bad they should be ostracised by me or anyone else.

Support and defend Katie Hopkins all anyone likes to, I for one however would be blasting her with all power in me for even suggesting another human being should be ostracised just because she doesn't like them.
It is also against the BB rules, I recall James Jordan last series, being pulled up for helping make Gary feel possibly ostracised,in fact James was then guided by BB to look out for him.

How this woman has got away with this,is beyond me and I for one could never support the ostracising of anyone the way she has tried to do so with him in that house.
No matter his many faults and over the top behaviour like a child hyperactive after having too many sweets.

Dealing with someone as vindictive and uncompromising as Katie Hopkins must drain the life out of a great many people, it certainly would me

I don't choose to laugh at people crying either,he would be upset at losing his Father,when it happened,(mentioning it may have brought that time back to the forefront of his mind), he has also just lost his closest friend,strength and confidante in there, Nadia,he will be feeling really low.

There are always the times to be angry and irritated at someone for annoying you or insulting you even,as Perez has done to some in there.
However there are other times too, when a little calmer wording,sensitivity and a bit of compassion is the likely order of the day.
No matter what I thought of anyone, seeing someone like that tonight,would have seen me at their side, if they wanted me to be.
Not forgetting any bad behaviour from him but just showing some human compassion.
Staggering that we weren't shown anyone doing so.

Then we get that smug cretin Katie Hopkins asking where he was just to try to get more gloating and chances to bring him down.

She wants him isolated but then wants to know where he is, what he is saying and what he is doing.
A rotten scheming pile of scum is what that woman is and how I would love to tell her so one day,the first chance I get to I will too.


:clap1:

What amazes me is the support someone as vile as she has. I really just don't get it other than people are blind to it or something I would rather not be true that they are like her.

[rionablue]

I did feel a bit sad for Perez tonight but things were bound to catch up with him and bite him in the arse. If he had been nearly as nice to the gang that are left in there as he was to his little buddies Alicia and Nadia now departed things might not have been as bad. If he hadn't been drunk I don't think all this 'pity me' stuff would have come out.

As for Cami she did genuinely appear to be listening to him and if anybody had a reason to shut him up and tell him grow up it would have been her for all the things he has said about her. I do have a heart and much and all as I cant stand Perez I don't think the others should be nasty to him for the last few days they have in there. Likewise I think he should pipe down now. Katie Hopkins is totally unforgiving but I think Perez's number 2 on his hated list Miss Cami Li did feel a bit sorry for him.

[keekee21]

Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

[Vanessa]

Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

It happens to me all the time. I'm just not good in groups. But these days i just don't care anymore what people think of me. :hugesmile:

[Liam-]

I don't like seeing nice, innocent people being isolated for no good reason, that is appalling.

Perez is neither nice, nor innocent, he deserves to be ostracized for the way he has treated people throughout the series, i have no sympathy for him whatsoever.. in fact, it actually brings me a bit of joy to see him miserable :flutter:

[Mystic Mock]

He's been deliberately isolated in there, tht was inevitable. Now cue the redemption story line.

I'm genuinely disturbed that people are celebrating the isolation of another Human Being tbh.

And these was from the same people that was feeling sorry for Jale and Ashleigh in BB15 who deliberately isolated themselves from the whole house, especially Jale.

[Jules2]

:clap1:

What amazes me is the support someone as vile as she has. I really just don't get it other than people are blind to it or something I would rather not be true that they are like her.

We are all individuals and have our own say, we have the right to that say it means that we do not have to follow like sheep.

As you say for Katie H I say the same thing about Perez, he has orchestrated everything and karma bites.

Katie H for the win.

[Johnnyuk123]

Anyone else buying the Pratez sympathy vote besides the ever so predictable trolls?:hehe:

[keekee21]

It happens to me all the time. I'm just not good in groups. But these days i just don't care anymore what people think of me. :hugesmile:

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

[Mystic Mock]

Anyone else buying the Pratez sympathy vote besides the ever so predictable trolls?:hehe:

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.:hehe:

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.:laugh2:

[Jules2]

Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

He ostracised himself, he chose to just run with Nadia his enabler. Even now he could join in if he wants to. He will take the reins so I do not feel sorry for him at all, he is a good actor and wants to win by hook or by crook.

[bots]

he is so upset ....

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twitter.com/bbuklive (http://twitter.com/bbuklive)

[jscoo47]

Still unpleasant to watch even if he is a total bellsmash.

Very clever editing tonight. BB giving us the sad story of poor lonely unloved Perez, followed immediately by KH asking where knob head was.

Dream on BB if you think we are falling for it.

[Johnnyuk123]

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

And none of the above has he brought upon himself? Please explain?

[Jack The Cat]

He's a nice bloke when he's a nice bloke.

That strangely makes a lot sense to me.

[Vanessa]

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

[Johnnyuk123]

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

Kav was just drunk too and you said..........

[mazerunner_888]

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

:clap1:

[Johnnyuk123]

Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

[jscoo47]

Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

KH made those comments about isolating him after all his terrible behaviour and after Alexander walked. Everybody was moaning about him and doing nothing. After losing his ally he became reflective. It is a shame he could not reflect on his behaviour before then.

Sadly the phase "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.

P

[Mystic Mock]

Very clever editing tonight. BB giving us the sad story of poor lonely unloved Perez, followed immediately by KH asking where knob head was.

Dream on BB if you think we are falling for it.

But BB wants Hopkins to win so why would they edit her badly?:joker:

[erinp5]

Looks happy enough to me
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B8yxQGLIIAA0dIl.mp4

http://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B8yxQGLIIAA0dIl.mp4

[Amy Jade]

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

The BB facebook page is cringe to read so I am sure they are. They were also defending Perez yesterday over his comments towards Calum and blaming Katie Hopkins and even Calum himself for being in the room. They're simply there to be laughed at.

[Vanessa]

I think BB will tell Hopkins to stop bulling Perez. If she continues she will not win. People will pile on the votes for anyone who is against her in the final. Like it happened with Dexter.

[mazerunner_888]

Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

He knew Katie Hopkins was going in the house who is a vile bully as we have seen.

[Mystic Mock]

Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

That's in the past, shouldn't be forgotten about now like Jim Davidson beating up his Wives?

[joeysteele]

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.:hehe:

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.:laugh2:

Like Katie Hopkins, it does seem to me likely that those who support Katie Hopkins, and it is their right to do so if they believe she is a good person and does right,are possibly more eager to talk about Perez by making threads about him.
However to call those who defend him trolls, at times I add because we who 'like' him do see and point out his faults too in the main,is out of line in my view.

I don't fall for things easily and resent being inferred I would, and I don't believe this was for show from Perez,I have already said enough on this earlier on this thread.
He is likely broken at this moment in time, there comes a time for reflection and the alcohol will have probably brought him down too.

He started that game where they talked about being drunk, it may have hit him that things could have been different in there but he also knows there is the 'gorgon',with snakes for hair,(Katie Hopkins that is), who would have him turned into stone if she could, hissing all the time and setting out to bring him down and 'influence' others to ostracise him.

She has no right to do that at all,no right to even just 'suggest' it,living with someone in that scenario,knowing they are trying to get you ostracised, must be literally near unbearable.

[Johnnyuk123]

He knew Katie Hopkins was going in the house who is a vile bully as we have seen.

Please answer my question.

Q:Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

He himself says he is a bully. His words. Explain?

[mazerunner_888]

I think BB will tell Hopkins to stop bulling Perez. If she continues she will not win. People will pile on the votes for anyone who is against her in the final. Like it happened with Dexter.

If she wins I will literally spit on my tv screen.

[Mystic Mock]

KH made those comments about isolating him after all his terrible behaviour and after Alexander walked. Everybody was moaning about him and doing nothing. After losing his ally he became reflective. It is a shame he could not reflect on his behaviour before then.

Sadly the phase "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.

P

There's been worse than Perez that has entered that house, and most sane Housemates didn't try to isolate them from the whole house.

And the public wasn't so sick as to revel in it if it ever did come to pass.

[Jules2]

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

He is not being ostracised, he was drunk. He sits with KP and Keith as Katie H sits with Michelle and co. He has the ability to sit with anyone he wants, he is trying to take over with their fun, far from being ostracised, they were all laughing with him when he suggested they each give their drunkest moments.

Keith was a bit uncomfortable and sort of walked away, dont blame him really with the stories which were coming out. He had the floor, hardly being ostracised. He is playing for the sympathy votes against Katie Hopkins, he really wants to stay in the house until the end, this will make him feel great as he will feel he has won over. KH. who in turn has told him that the public will keep him in because of the way he is acting.

If he doesnt want KH to banter with him then walk away or dont start anything. He loves the attention though because he knows it will give both of them airtime thus he divides and possibly conquers, he knows what he is doing.

[Johnnyuk123]

There's been worse than Perez that has entered that house, and most sane Housemates didn't try to isolate them from the whole house.

And the public wasn't so sick as to revel in it if it ever did come to pass.

Why would the housemates left want to hang out with Pratez? They want to hang out with him because...................?

[mazerunner_888]

Please answer my question.

Q:Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

He himself says he is a bully. His words. Explain?

Maybe you should post link.

[keekee21]

And none of the above has he brought upon himself? Please explain?

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.


He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

[Glenn.]

He deserves to break. He's been repugnant

[Johnnyuk123]

Maybe you should post link.

I expected nothing less from you. Can't answer a simple question speaks volumes.

[Mystic Mock]

Like Katie Hopkins, it does seem to me likely that those who support Katie Hopkins, and it is their right to do so if they believe she is a good person and does right,are possibly more eager to talk about Perez by making threads about him.
However to call those who defend him trolls, at times I add because we who 'like' him do see and point out his faults too in the main,is out of line in my view.

I don't fall for things easily and resent being inferred I would, and I don't believe this was for show from Perez,I have already said enough on this earlier on this thread.
He is likely broken at this moment in time, there comes a time for reflection and the alcohol will have probably brought him down too.

He started that game where they talked about being drunk, it may have hit him that things could have been different in there but he also knows there is the 'gorgon',with snakes for hair,(Katie Hopkins that is), who would have him turned into stone if she could, hissing all the time and setting out to bring him down and 'influence' others to ostracise him.

She has no right to do that at all,no right to even just 'suggest' it,living with someone in that scenario,knowing they are trying to get you ostracised, must be literally near unbearable.

I 100% agree with you Joey.

And certain people calling FB posters pathetic when they report people, and Ignore people at a drop of a hat is quite amusing.:hehe:

[Johnnyuk123]

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.


He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

If people exclude you for no reason then i would take your point and actually agree. BUT... That is not the reason why they walk away from him is it? They walk away from him because of his own actions towards them.

[abhorson]

Lets leave Kav out of this he hasnt done anything wrong other than to tell Keith to F off. I cant even remember why now but he apologised and they made it up. Keith has been a bit OCD in there and hasnt really joined in with the others. I thought they were both rilliant in the task, loved Keith comparing, he had it down to a T but felt sorry for Kav having to read out those horrible tweets which he did do brilliantly.

With Prez had Nadia been there he wouldnt have been so mournful, ok she was his friend. It is up to the others to go to him if they feel sorry for him so perhaps he is just crying out for attention after realising he has been a naughty boy. On the other hand he will be as bright as a button and back to normal service. He is a brilliant actor and he is trying to make himself the victim in something which he orchestrated.


I knew Keith was a clean freak. But yes OCD.

Great point. Another with mental a health problem and added to the drink problem.

**** me.

[keekee21]

He ostracised himself, he chose to just run with Nadia his enabler. Even now he could join in if he wants to. He will take the reins so I do not feel sorry for him at all, he is a good actor and wants to win by hook or by crook.

He was being ostrazised by the others way before when KH started to create it, which resulted in him being pals with Nadia.

[mazerunner_888]

I expected nothing less from you. Can't answer a simple question speaks volumes.

Oh it's mysteriously disappeared has it?

I want to see context.

[Mystic Mock]

Why would the housemates left want to hang out with Pratez? They want to hang out with him because...................?

Maybe because they actually would have fun in the house instead of following Squidward all the time.

[Johnnyuk123]

Oh it's mysteriously disappeared has it?

I want to see context.

Strange how his fan does not know where his website is.:hehe:

[mazerunner_888]

Strange how his fan does not know where his website is.:hehe:

It's a big site. I want link to where he says he will not bully in the house.

[mazerunner_888]

Maybe because they actually would have fun in the house instead of following Squidward all the time.

:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Strange how his fan does not know where his website is.:hehe:

Because not all of us was a fan of his before the show and have actually liked him on CBB.

Unlike some.

[joeysteele]

I 100% agree with you Joey.

And certain people calling FB posters pathetic when they report people, and Ignore people at a drop of a hat is quite amusing.:hehe:

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

[Jules2]

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.


He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

Hi Keekee, you are putting your own feelings into play, dont do that because it doesnt help you. You know who you are and I have every reason to think that you are a lovely person with lots of empathy. Dont let others get you down, just be yourself, dont expect anything and gradually things will just happen. Love is grand and there is plenty to go around.

The players in this game will come out with plenty of rewards, noone person can be liked by everyone so they will have their negative vibes along with their positive ones. The best thing they will have is a great big bank balance.

Perez and the two Katies have been in reality shows before so they know how to handle the situations. If they slip up then it is up to them to get themselves out of that situation. They are each individual people with their own agenda.

By all means we must each stand up for who we want to but dont take it to heart as it sometimes hurts ((hugs)).

[abhorson]

I don't like seeing nice, innocent people being isolated for no good reason, that is appalling.

Perez is neither nice, nor innocent, he deserves to be ostracized for the way he has treated people throughout the series, i have no sympathy for him whatsoever.. in fact, it actually brings me a bit of joy to see him miserable :flutter:

:clap1::clap1:

It is another sad act aided by booze.

He has not listened to HM's or BB when warned.

Crappy scum.

[Johnnyuk123]

It's a big site. I want link to where he says he will not bully in the house.

I think Ke$ha would also disagree with you.

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[Jules2]

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

The thing is we now have to realise that this is what he tried to do to Katie H. we learnt quite a little bit with Michelles outburst. So what can we say but, what goes around comes around.

[abhorson]

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.:hehe:

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.:laugh2:


And you are supporting Perez.

Whatever floats your boat! An unsteady boat.

[Mystic Mock]

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

Well as I was someone that was bullied for being “different” at School, I personally find it offensive that people cheer that stuff on as it reminds me of how some people wanted me to get bullied at School and how the Teachers wouldn't do anything about it, in Perez's case BB is that Teacher that won't do anything about Cami's temper/physically pushing Perez, Calum looking like he was gonna knock Perez out, and Hopkins wanting to isolate him, and being constantly Xenophobic about him.

I dread to think if these same people was ever bullied and other people started laughing and loving it, how they would react and if they would see it as “karma” then?

[the truth]

Well as I was someone that was bullied for being “different” at School, I personally find it offensive that people cheer that stuff on as it reminds me of how some people wanted me to get bullied at School and how the Teachers wouldn't do anything about it, in Perez's case BB is that Teacher that won't do anything about Cami's temper/physically pushing Perez, Calum looking like he was gonna knock Perez out, and Hopkins wanting to isolate him, and being constantly Xenophobic about him.

I dread to think if these same people was ever bullied and other people started laughing and loving it, how they would react and if they would see it as “karma” then?

agreed. what the hell has happened to this country when the masses actively support this vile evil bullying? its absolutely disgusting

[Johnnyuk123]

Or the black eyed peas.

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[abhorson]

Maybe because they actually would have fun in the house instead of following Squidward all the time.

How could anybody have fun with a user and abuser in they're midst?

[Jack The Cat]

agreed. what the hell has happened to this country when the masses actively support this vile evil bullying? its absolutely disgusting

I thank the wisdom of the crowd from keeping this country safe from tyranny.

[Mystic Mock]

And you are supporting Perez.

Whatever floats your boat! An unsteady boat.

Has Perez bullied anyone in that house? No, as he tried to improve his image to more of a Daily Star level of trash? Yes.

Does Hopkins bully people in the house? Yes, does Hopkins bully and troll outside of the house? Yes, including attacking Michelle on her Column.

[the truth]

I love perez hes more entertaining than all the others put together...theyre mostly just jealous of him so they've bullied him throughout just like they bullied gary busey.simple. perez all the way

[Jack The Cat]

Well as I was someone that was bullied for being “different” at School, I personally find it offensive that people cheer that stuff on as it reminds me of how some people wanted me to get bullied at School and how the Teachers wouldn't do anything about it, in Perez's case BB is that Teacher that won't do anything about Cami's temper/physically pushing Perez, Calum looking like he was gonna knock Perez out, and Hopkins wanting to isolate him, and being constantly Xenophobic about him.

I dread to think if these same people was ever bullied and other people started laughing and loving it, how they would react and if they would see it as “karma” then?

Karma is a supernatural part of a religion of which there is no evidence. Reason would lead me to believe that no such system exists. I don't think anyone should concern themselves about "Karma".

[Mystic Mock]

How could anybody have fun with a user and abuser in they're midst?

That's why I'm saying that they should stop hanging around Squidward, especially Judas and Minimi who have thrown their chances of winning down the Toilet for that trash.

[Vanessa]

I love perez hes more entertaining than all the others put together...theyre mostly just jealous of him so they've bullied him throughout just like they bullied gary busey.simple. perez all the way

He's great! Best housemate ever! :love:

[Mystic Mock]

I thank the wisdom of the crowd from keeping this country safe from tyranny.

I think we can tell, because most of them are certainly not watching CBB this year.:joker:

[Johnnyuk123]

Will I Am puts the record straight on Pratez.
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[abhorson]

Because not all of us was a fan of his before the show and have actually liked him on CBB.

Unlike some.

Well exactly.

Not because at a low estimate (and even you) 85% of anti KH posters have brought up her past. Perez is worse.

In the same way with KH. I was not a fan of hers either before the show. But a perceived by some nasty cow that takes down a not only nasty but mean and vindictive person that would **** on absolutely anybody to get that ***** publicity. Gets my vote.

Ever think you were on the wrong horse?

[Mystic Mock]

Also watch out for when Hopkins writes Columns about “how moronic the GBP was for voting her to win.”

[Jack The Cat]

I think we can tell, because most of them are certainly not watching CBB this year.:joker:

Or any other year for that matter.:joker:

[abhorson]

I think we can tell, because most of them are certainly not watching CBB this year.:joker:

You really do miss Jack the Cat's point.

[abhorson]

Also watch out for when Hopkins writes Columns about “how moronic the GBP was for voting her to win.”

Yep, and i will ignore it.

[Mystic Mock]

Well exactly.

Not because at a low estimate (and even you) 85% of anti KH posters have brought up her past. Perez is worse.

In the same way with KH. I was not a fan of hers either before the show. But a perceived by some nasty cow that takes down a not only nasty but mean and vindictive person that would **** on absolutely anybody to get that ***** publicity. Gets my vote.

Ever think you were on the wrong horse?

How many people have brought up Perez's past? It's been way more than the people bringing up Hopkins past.

And then inside the house you've got Perez making TV Gold, having a laugh, and is nice to the Housemates that actually give him a chance.

Hopkins then being miserable, never smiling, befriending people in the house then smashing them apart in her Column, wanting to isolate multiple Housemates, and is a hypocrite of the worst kind as she can do what she wants in the name of freedom of speech, yet will isolate Perez and anyone willing to speak to Perez.

One is way more out of control than the other, and surprisingly it's not Perez.

[Mystic Mock]

You really do miss Jack the Cat's point.

Or I just twisted it into my own point.:laugh:

[abhorson]

How many people have brought up Perez's past? It's been way more than the people bringing up Hopkins past.

And then inside the house you've got Perez making TV Gold, having a laugh, and is nice to the Housemates that actually give him a chance.

Hopkins then being miserable, never smiling, befriending people in the house then smashing them apart in her Column, wanting to isolate multiple Housemates, and is a hypocrite of the worst kind as she can do what she wants in the name of freedom of speech, yet will isolate Perez and anyone willing to speak to Perez.

One is way more out of control than the other, and surprisingly it's not Perez.

Exactly. Both have pasts. One worse than the other.

If you think TV gold is goading other humans then OK.

Perez has no one left. Voted on by maybe, one million calls.

Think again.

[Jack The Cat]

Or I just twisted it into my own point.:laugh:

I assumed that you would.:evilgrin:

[Johnnyuk123]

Pratez's ex friend speaks of his hate towards Lady Gaga.

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[Mystic Mock]

I assumed that you would.:evilgrin:

Is this becoming verbal rape.:evilgrin:

I'm joking about one of the Perez haters on DS last night calling his comment to Calum verbal rape.

[abhorson]

Pratez's ex friend speaks of his hate towards Lady Gaga.

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Because of the KH hatred. they still won't accept that Perez is on another level of hate.

So sad.

[Mystic Mock]

Exactly. Both have pasts. One worse than the other.

If you think TV gold is goading other humans then OK.

Perez has no one left. Voted on by maybe, one million calls.

Think again.

Well no as they're the UK and US equivalent to each other, so in the house is where they should be judged and Hopkins has been a way more disgusting Human Being, she's not even trolling this time which is the scary part.

[abhorson]

Is this becoming verbal rape.:evilgrin:

I'm joking about one of the Perez haters on DS last night calling his comment to Calum verbal rape.


You once again reply with nothing.

[Mystic Mock]

You once again reply with nothing.

I have you're just choosing to ignore it.

[abhorson]

Mystic Meg would have more success!

[abhorson]

I have you're just choosing to ignore it.

Again nothing.

[Johnnyuk123]

Pratez speaks out about his bullying of others.

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[Jules2]

Thankyou for the vid tapes John, I have enjoyed watching them, loved his pink hair <big smiles>. Well so there we have it, many have put Katies beforehand motions forward and now the score is even we have Perez'.

Gary's stay in the house was totally different than this Perez character, Gary was "bullied" from the start by all but the thing which made him special was the fact that he took every criticism which was given to him, he didnt becry his fate. He apologised and he gave them credit for making him better. He shouldnt have done that as he is a thousand times better than any of them. He was a character and I think he knew what he was doing, he forgave every little criticism. He also had/has a great career even now he is active and making music. He is a legend, Perez is nothing like Gary and he deserves everything he gets.

As Perez studied his victims before he went in, it is possible that others did the same with him. There is obviously much on the net for interested parties to view. I think Alex knew and this is why he couldnt stay.

Now if they knew what he was about there is no way they are going to let him get the better of them. Just a thought because these vids show him up as a very mean person, one who attacks individuals and not necessarily a group. He obviously tries to conquer and divide.

So far as I am concerned I am not going to alter my mind about him, not at all so for me the debate is over. I will stand by Katie H: Calum: Kav: Cami and Michelle. If Keith wins then I say good luck to him but he is not my choice.

This last week is just going to be a case of each party trying to get the better of the other, it was nice to see remarks about Michelle for a change, it has all been Perez and Katie H. Most have made up their minds now so it will just be a loyalty factor. Tomorrow should be very interesting but I fear an unfair twist and someone is going to get hurt. I hope I am wrong no matter who it is.

[abhorson]

Well no as they're the UK and US equivalent to each other, so in the house is where they should be judged and Hopkins has been a way more disgusting Human Being, she's not even trolling this time which is the scary part.

Which took me back to my original point of the hatred of KP from outside. You are still not accepting this. And if just in the house only. You think that KH has been more digusting than Perez. You need to wake up.

All of his so-called friends have gone and he his now a lonely sad figure.

[wendywillow]

Which took me back to my original point of the hatred of KP from outside. You are still not accepting this. And if just in the house only. You think that KH has been more digusting than Perez. You need to wake up.

All of his so-called friends have gone and he his now a lonely sad figure.

KH has been much worse than Perez (shes been trying to force the entire house to ostracize him since early on), perez might dance in his underwear, stick out his tongue etc, but its more in fun, he does respond when attacked (and KH has been non-stop since early on) but what do you expect

[sampvt]

Thankyou for the vid tapes John, I have enjoyed watching them, loved his pink hair <big smiles>. Well so there we have it, many have put Katies beforehand motions forward and now the score is even we have Perez'.

Gary's stay in the house was totally different than this Perez character, Gary was "bullied" from the start by all but the thing which made him special was the fact that he took every criticism which was given to him, he didnt becry his fate. He apologised and he gave them credit for making him better. He shouldnt have done that as he is a thousand times better than any of them. He was a character and I think he knew what he was doing, he forgave every little criticism. He also had/has a great career even now he is active and making music. He is a legend, Perez is nothing like Gary and he deserves everything he gets.

As Perez studied his victims before he went in, it is possible that others did the same with him. There is obviously much on the net for interested parties to view. I think Alex knew and this is why he couldnt stay.

Now if they knew what he was about there is no way they are going to let him get the better of them. Just a thought because these vids show him up as a very mean person, one who attacks individuals and not necessarily a group. He obviously tries to conquer and divide.

So far as I am concerned I am not going to alter my mind about him, not at all so for me the debate is over. I will stand by Katie H: Calum: Kav: Cami and Michelle. If Keith wins then I say good luck to him but he is not my choice.

This last week is just going to be a case of each party trying to get the better of the other, it was nice to see remarks about Michelle for a change, it has all been Perez and Katie H. Most have made up their minds now so it will just be a loyalty factor. Tomorrow should be very interesting but I fear an unfair twist and someone is going to get hurt. I hope I am wrong no matter who it is.

Great post Jules, you are growing on me my friend.

[sampvt]

KH has been much worse than Perez (shes been trying to force the entire house to ostracize him since early on), perez might dance in his underwear, stick out his tongue etc, but its more in fun, he does respond when attacked (and KH has been non-stop since early on) but what do you expect

Hoppo destroys her conquests with witty rhetoric, not antagonistic and vile acts designed to inflame and create acts of violence. Casing point is Alex and Callum to name but 2.

[joeysteele]

KH has been much worse than Perez (shes been trying to force the entire house to ostracize him since early on), perez might dance in his underwear, stick out his tongue etc, but its more in fun, he does respond when attacked (and KH has been non-stop since early on) but what do you expect

She has.
He has at times too acted very silly and done some really annoying antics but in the main that is all they were.

Katie Hopkins on the other hand has been vindictive, equally annoying in her harasment at times of him and the thing you pointed out which she should have been and should still be pulled up on.
Setting out to ostracise him and to get the others on board to support her in that.

He said tonight how rotten it made him feel to hear Katie Hopkins saying to the others she wanted him to be, and that he should be, ostracised.
As he said, to be treated like a leper.
I said earlier,I believe him totally she did that, as he was saying it in the presence of Kavana and Cami and neither Kavana or Cami ever disputed his words in any way.

That is a total disgrace and she should have been warned at the very least for that.

[Lstan]

Crying and feeling sorry for himself, which is of course is self inflicted Fake tears and still still his sick game or alcohol.

No one likes me and still not accepting why. KH has more balls than he does and wins no matter the final result.

He will still go back to his hate site

Opinions?

so will katie tho
plus he and Kh do the same thing
they both cry, except perez does it when hes hurt, katie does it when she "gets compliments" i am suspect of both :think::pipe2:

[Mystic Mock]

Which took me back to my original point of the hatred of KP from outside. You are still not accepting this. And if just in the house only. You think that KH has been more digusting than Perez. You need to wake up.

All of his so-called friends have gone and he his now a lonely sad figure.

No you need to wake up if you think that Hopkins bullying people is kinder than Perez winding up a bunch of shallow dickheads.

Classic case of Hopkins just judging on physical appearance, I hate fat people, ginger haired people, and people who have Botox, this she has said inside the house as well as outside the house.

[Mystic Mock]

Hoppo destroys her conquests with witty rhetoric, not antagonistic and vile acts designed to inflame and create acts of violence. Casing point is Alex and Callum to name but 2.

If being witty is having a face like a slapped arse, forcing people not to talk to certain individuals, and making Xenophobic remarks then send me in there because I could easily recreate that formula and win.

[abhorson]

No you need to wake up if you think that Hopkins bullying people is kinder than Perez winding up a bunch of shallow dickheads.

Classic case of Hopkins just judging on physical appearance, I hate fat people, ginger haired people, and people who have Botox, this she has said inside the house as well as outside the house.

Goading is not winding up. It is taunting for a severe reaction.

[cfromhx02]

& what's that about KH not inciting violence, it was her that started the argument between Calum and Perez

the other night which led to Calum threatening Perez with "Shut your mouth".

Most people say "Shut up" or "be quiet" when you say "shut your mouth" 2 someone,and Calum said it aggressively,

round where I live,that is seen as a threat,cos it often means a punch in the mouth if you don''t shut up.KH started that

& outside the house she has accused ALL Muslims of thinking it is OK to rape white children

and has called for the mass bombings of Palestinian children, so what was that about KH not inciting violence ?

If she didn't have judge and tax avoiding pals like David Cameron she'd have been punished legally for those long ago

[Kizzy]

They are both as offensive as one another... basically.

[Liam-]

I hope he cries some more, that's the only time I've ever been 'entertained' by him

[Mystic Mock]

I hope he cries some more, that's the only time I've ever been 'entertained' by him

You do realize that you're encouraging the UK version of himself to bully him right?

[Northern Monkey]

Acts like a twat all series and wonders why nobody likes him.Did he think they'd all just forgive and forget just because Nadia went the day before?Hopkins is a twat too btw,Not a fan of her either.

[Northern Monkey]

They are both as offensive as one another... basically.

Yes:clap1:

[cfromhx02]

I hope he cries some more, that's the only time I've ever been 'entertained' by him

One rule for one another rule for KH, she gets away with murder or just gets away with calling for murder in real life,

why do KH fans keep ignoring her clear abuse of weak people and her complete lack of compassion in her face, you are backing a potential psychopath

[Philanthropite]

People are still talking like he brought it upon himself? Katie H inspired the house into hating him. He did not completely bring it upon himself. I'm not saying he didn't contribute anything to why they hate him either but in actuality tell me what did he ever do to actually deserve such group loathing and bullying.

Oh yeah, what started the group hate was him dancing around the garden naked and setting the argument off inside. They were the ones who argued about him and he didn't actually do anything to them or contribute to the argument in any way.

People just quote BBBOTS with the whole "he made his bed so he can lie in it" bollocks. Think for yourselves you mindless sheep.

[Mick McMick]

Anyone want a bit of cake?

[-Sue-]

I did feel for Perez on last nights HL show no matter what the reason the HMs have chosen to treat him this way the point is he is still a human being with feelings and was clearly upset. (I am sure the drink did not help) but 1 kind word could have made all the difference shameful :(

[Caballo]

They are both as offensive as one another... basically.

This ^^^^^^

Two cheeks of the same ar5e

[jennyjuniper]

He is an honest drunk unlike some one like kav who just turns nasty.

I still can't decide if you really really like Perez :shocked: or if you are just taking the piss:laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Looks like someone fell for the sob story then :idc: How gullible, can't you see he was after the pity vote as his only way of winning ? no of course not :pat:

[ebandit]

ffs it's a game show..............if HMs prefer to have nothing to do with

tiny tears pez because of his obnoxious behaviour he is free to either

step out of the game...........or show a little remorse

Mark L

[AnnieK]

I do have some pity for him, I don't like to see anyone ostracized in the way he has been.....but on the same hand he hasn't done himself any favours so I could be just desserts.

[tormented mind]

Looks like someone fell for the sob story then :idc: How gullible, can't you see he was after the pity vote as his only way of winning ? no of course not :pat:

Is he so stupid as to tell the public to **** off one day then ask for pity the next?

I doubt it as he seems one of about 3 with half a brain in that house.

[poppsywoppsy]

I can't follow all the Perez sympathy going on.

He has made a career out of being as cretinous as he can towards other celebs, their children and anyone who he feels is an easy target.

He has met his nemeses in KH who apart from giving him a taste of his own medicine, has not been a part of any of his craziness towards others.

He was the one targeting other housemates from the beginning, did he really feel he could ride roughshod over everyone including BB until the end? He slated the British public when he couldn't dictate what he felt was his choices, that means YOU who are so kindly disposed towards him, it means nothing to us who loathe him but those who support him are failing to notice that he is flinging all your support back at you.

So, now poor old Perez is realizing that it is not the Perez Show when he is ostracized, that jazz hands, dad dancing and stripping off has its sell by date of shock value and the other housemates have turned their backs on him.

Even Cheggers walked out on him twice last night, that's a real teller that they have all reached their tolerance level with this braggart.

The truth came out last night, I remember him bragging that he didn't need the money, that he could walk when he liked but then he seemed to remember he does need the money.

I thought Perez needed to have this reality check and it is not before time. The housemates who have facilitated his bad behaviour have gone, he crossed the line one time too many and has to face the consequences of his own actions.

Cry all you need Perez, sad sad pathetic man.

[tormented mind]

Crying and feeling sorry for himself, which is of course is self inflicted Fake tears and still still his sick game or alcohol.

No one likes me and still not accepting why. KH has more balls than he does and wins no matter the final result.

He will still go back to his hate site

Opinions?


Katie Hopkins would have walked weeks ago if she had been ostracized the way Perez has, so no she does not have bigger balls than he does.

[-Sue-]

I can't follow all the Perez sympathy going on.

He has made a career out of being as cretinous as he can towards other celebs, their children and anyone who he feels is an easy target.

He has met his nemeses in KH who apart from giving him a taste of his own medicine, has not been a part of any of his craziness towards others.

He was the one targeting other housemates from the beginning, did he really feel he could ride roughshod over everyone including BB until the end? He slated the British public when he couldn't dictate what he felt was his choices, that means YOU who are so kindly disposed towards him, it means nothing to us who loathe him but those who support him are failing to notice that he is flinging all your support back at you.

So, now poor old Perez is realizing that it is not the Perez Show when he is ostracized, that jazz hands, dad dancing and stripping off has its sell by date of shock value and the other housemates have turned their backs on him.

Even Cheggers walked out on him twice last night, that's a real teller that they have all reached their tolerance level with this braggart.

The truth came out last night, I remember him bragging that he didn't need the money, that he could walk when he liked but then he seemed to remember he does need the money.

I thought Perez needed to have this reality check and it is not before time. The housemates who have facilitated his bad behaviour have gone, he crossed the line one time too many and has to face the consequences of his own actions.

Cry all you need Perez, sad sad pathetic man.

At the end of the day he was upset..with my humanity intact I feel sorry for him.. dispite anything he has done or been accused of:shrug:

Not a sympathy vote just my empathy for ANYONE who was being singled out in that kind of situation

[Niamh.]

At the end of the day he was upset..with my humanity intact I feel sorry for him.. dispite anything he has done or been accused of:shrug:

Not a sympathy vote just my empathy for ANYONE who was being singled out in that kind of situation

Indeed

[Suze]

At the end of the day he was upset..with my humanity intact I feel sorry for him.. dispite anything he has done or been accused of:shrug:

Not a sympathy vote just my empathy for ANYONE who was being singled out in that kind of situation


Well said. Couldn't have put that any better if I had tried, Sue.

[poppsywoppsy]

So he was upset, he upset Calum, Alexander, and Michelle by his antics

So what, how will he know when he has crossed the line otherwise, he argues his way out of everything else.

Let him have a short sharp taste of being alone with his own company, it might do him the world of good.

He will be back, laughing at all those who fell for his sympathy act.

Edit, just watched him with Katie P and Cami and he was getting along fine.

Didn't take him long to cheer up again, did it? Let's hope this good humour lasts and he finds he likes being nice to people and they will react differently towards him, because of it.

Not holding my breath though.

[Johnnyuk123]

Thankyou for the vid tapes John, I have enjoyed watching them, loved his pink hair <big smiles>. Well so there we have it, many have put Katies beforehand motions forward and now the score is even we have Perez'.

Gary's stay in the house was totally different than this Perez character, Gary was "bullied" from the start by all but the thing which made him special was the fact that he took every criticism which was given to him, he didnt becry his fate. He apologised and he gave them credit for making him better. He shouldnt have done that as he is a thousand times better than any of them. He was a character and I think he knew what he was doing, he forgave every little criticism. He also had/has a great career even now he is active and making music. He is a legend, Perez is nothing like Gary and he deserves everything he gets.

As Perez studied his victims before he went in, it is possible that others did the same with him. There is obviously much on the net for interested parties to view. I think Alex knew and this is why he couldnt stay.

Now if they knew what he was about there is no way they are going to let him get the better of them. Just a thought because these vids show him up as a very mean person, one who attacks individuals and not necessarily a group. He obviously tries to conquer and divide.

So far as I am concerned I am not going to alter my mind about him, not at all so for me the debate is over. I will stand by Katie H: Calum: Kav: Cami and Michelle. If Keith wins then I say good luck to him but he is not my choice.

This last week is just going to be a case of each party trying to get the better of the other, it was nice to see remarks about Michelle for a change, it has all been Perez and Katie H. Most have made up their minds now so it will just be a loyalty factor. Tomorrow should be very interesting but I fear an unfair twist and someone is going to get hurt. I hope I am wrong no matter who it is.

Great post!

Your are very welcome!:wavey: