How can anyone support Katie Hopkins when she made jokes about an Ebola victim?

[The Penguin]

You may know this story

She made crude jokes about an Ebola victim, a Scottish nurse working in Africa who was transferred from Glasgow to London for treatment.

Her tweet was
"Sending us Ebola bombs in the form of sweaty Glaswegians just isn't cricket."

She is referring to a dedicated nurse who went all they way to Africa to save the lives of people as an "Ebola bomb" and a "sweaty Glaswegian". That's taking it too far. How can anyone support this creature?

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe that nurse should have stayed in Scotland and helped people there

[Jack The Cat]

Katie is also a Devil Worshiping child killer. Unless you hate her, you must be evil as well.

It is the law you know.

[chuff me dizzy]

maybe that nurse should have stayed in Scotland and helped people there

Exactly !!! selfish CHOICE that could have killed innocent people

[Patricia4]

Another dig at Katie I see.

[Niamh.]

Exactly !!! selfish CHOICE that could have killed innocent people

:conf2:

[The Penguin]

maybe that nurse should have stayed in Scotland and helped people there

She can help whoever she choose to help. It's her life. And you're missing the point entirely. The point being calling a dying woman an "ebola bomb" is completely uncalled for and twisted.

[AnnieK]

It was quite a selfless choice really.....she put her own life on the line to help others.....the problem is the screening on her return.

[The Penguin]

Another dig at Katie I see.

Just pointing out a fact.

[Lostie!]

Exactly !!! selfish CHOICE that could have killed innocent people

I'll ask what I asked you last time you said this ... how on earth is trying to help people "selfish"? :conf:

The world needs more people like her, frankly.

What is selfish, however, is begruding the people in West Africa help.

It was quite a selfless choice really.....she put her own life on the line to help others.....the problem is the screening on her return.

Absolutely.

[AnnieK]

I'll ask what I asked you last time you said this ... how on earth is trying to help people "selfish"? :conf:

The world needs more people like her, frankly.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Another dig at Katie I see.

Of course, it par for course now ,boring isn't it ?

[the truth]

Katie is also a Devil Worshiping child killer. Unless you hate her, you must be evil as well.

It is the law you know.

no its just decency

[Twittwoo]

maybe that nurse should have stayed in Scotland and helped people there

:clap1:

[Kazanne]

You may know this story

She made crude jokes about an Ebola victim, a Scottish nurse working in Africa who was transferred from Glasgow to London for treatment.

Her tweet was
"Sending us Ebola bombs in the form of sweaty Glaswegians just isn't cricket."

She is referring to a dedicated nurse who went all they way to Africa to save the lives of people as an "Ebola bomb" and a "sweaty Glaswegian". That's taking it too far. How can anyone support this creature?

Don't you think that coming over here with the potencial to have Ebola was pretty stupid,it could have easily gone terribly wrong, wonder how people would feel if THAT had happened

[the truth]

Of course, it par for course now ,boring isn't it ?

her bigotry is boring

[The Penguin]

Don't you think that coming over here with the potencial to have Ebola was pretty stupid,it could have easily gone terribly wrong, wonder how people would feel if THAT had happened

You mean potential, not potencial.

[Suze]

I rather think Katie Hopkins support is waning big time now, or maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part :D I like to believe the former rather than the latter though :)

[Kazanne]

It was quite a selfless choice really.....she put her own life on the line to help others.....the problem is the screening on her return.

It was selfless Annie,and kudos to the nurse BUT had the scenario been different it could have led to people dying,she should not have been allowed to return until it was certain she was clear.

[Niamh.]

I rather think Katie Hopkins support is waning big time now, or maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part :D I like to believe the former rather than the latter though :)

:fc:

[Jack The Cat]

You mean potential, not potencial.

That is lame. :nono:

[Niamh.]

It was selfless Annie,and kudos to the nurse BUT had the scenario been different it could have led to people dying,she should not have been allowed to return until it was certain she was clear.

That's the fault of the people screening and obviously the way people are being screened though, don't you think?

[Kazanne]

You mean potential, not potencial.

Oh sorry teacher didn't realise we were in school,some of us do make mistakes.

[Twittwoo]

I'll ask what I asked you last time you said this ... how on earth is trying to help people "selfish"? :conf:

The world needs more people like her, frankly.

What is selfish, however, is begruding the people in West Africa help.



Absolutely.

The nurse was interviewed on TV last week/week before, and she openly admits that her OWN FAMILY have said that they feel it was selfish to go and put herself in the way of contracting a killer virus and she is not going to be doing any more aid work as she has to think of her own family...

As for begrudging the people of West Africa help.. sit and tot up just how much help they have been given over the past 30 years... :shrug:

[poppsywoppsy]

So Hopkins is the antichrist, yet is still beating Perez in the ratings.

You couldn't make it up, talking about clutching at straws. By Perez's followers.

[tormented mind]

Don't you think that coming over here with the potencial to have Ebola was pretty stupid,it could have easily gone terribly wrong, wonder how people would feel if THAT had happened

Most normal minded people would still applaud her courage for going over there to try and help human beings that cant help themselves. Putting her life at risk for the good of others while Katie Hopkins sits munching strawberries and cream as she types up her latest unfunny, uncalled for racist or bigoted tweet, maybe about how some short skirted wench deserved the raping she got.

[Jack The Cat]

no its just decency

If that's the choice I will happily become indecent.

[Josy]

Exactly !!! selfish CHOICE that could have killed innocent people

:umm2:

I have no words...

[chuff me dizzy]

Don't you think that coming over here with the potencial to have Ebola was pretty stupid,it could have easily gone terribly wrong, wonder how people would feel if THAT had happened

She would still be a Saint !!! her CHOICE to go over there, her choice to fly all around Europe where she could have infected countless people

[tormented mind]

"If people's disability benefit was handed out from the top rung of a ladder I reckon most would climb the ladder to get it."
Read more at http://www.mtv.co.uk/wtf/pictures/katie-hopkins-worst-tweets#79wREySQQWtqhhjp.99


Another Katie Hopkins gem mocking the disabled.

[Kazanne]

That's the fault of the people screening and obviously the way people are being screened though, don't you think?

Yes of course,but even her own family said it was selfish.:shrug: I just wonder how we would have felt about that comment had we been sat by a loved ones bed dying from Ebola.

[Kazanne]

"If people's disability benefit was handed out from the top rung of a ladder I reckon most would climb the ladder to get it."
Read more at http://www.mtv.co.uk/wtf/pictures/katie-hopkins-worst-tweets#79wREySQQWtqhhjp.99


Another Katie Hopkins gem mocking the disabled.

She is not knocking the genuinely disabled,only the ones that roll around on scooters and then go off for a round of Golf!!

[tormented mind]

She is not knocking the genuinely disabled,only the ones that roll around on scooters and then go off for a round of Golf!!

Is that MOST of them?

No it is NOT.

[Lostie!]

Don't you think that coming over here with the potencial to have Ebola was pretty stupid,it could have easily gone terribly wrong, wonder how people would feel if THAT had happened

I'd feel no differently in regards to seeing her as a brave individual who did something most of us would be too scared to do to help those in need. And no, I don't think anything she did was "stupid".

Regardless of that, there's no justification for mocking a seriously ill person. None.

The nurse was interviewed on TV last week/week before, and she openly admits that her OWN FAMILY have said that they feel it was selfish to go and put herself in the way of contracting a killer virus and she is not going to be doing any more aid work as she has to think of her own family...

As for begrudging the people of West Africa help.. sit and tot up just how much help they have been given over the past 30 years... :shrug:

I don't really care what anyone, even the family, says. In my opinion, it's far from selfish to go and help people, but very selfish to sit there and begrudge them help. What she did goes against the very definition of "selfish", so it bemuses me how people can use that word.

And how is their help "in the last 30 years" relevant to anything Is said? Has this current ebola crisis been ongoing for 30 years? Or are we meant to ignore the plight of others just because we've already "helped" them with other issues in the past?

So Hopkins is the antichrist, yet is still beating Perez in the ratings.

You couldn't make it up, talking about clutching at straws. By Perez's followers.

Um, I'm not a "Perez follower", what a generalisation. It's not simply a matter of "Hopkins vs Perez" for a lot of us. Hopkins being a horrid person has nothing to do with Perez (who is himself a horrible person).

[sungrass]

Katie Hopkins hates you. When she wins this, she will laugh at you. This show is for chav's she will say...she will say the viewers are all chavs - with sons called things like Brandom, with whom she wouldnt let her children play. Hate the woman - Hate what she stands for - which is attention and publicity just for being cruel to people. Pathetic.

[Twittwoo]

"If people's disability benefit was handed out from the top rung of a ladder I reckon most would climb the ladder to get it."
Read more at http://www.mtv.co.uk/wtf/pictures/katie-hopkins-worst-tweets#79wREySQQWtqhhjp.99


Another Katie Hopkins gem mocking the disabled.

That is not mocking the disabled. It is RIGHTLY commenting on the fact that a lot of people who claim disability benefit do so falsely.

You only have to look around you. You know when it's disability day, walking sticks and limps appear all around....
She's RIGHT.

[chuff me dizzy]

"If people's disability benefit was handed out from the top rung of a ladder I reckon most would climb the ladder to get it."
Read more at http://www.mtv.co.uk/wtf/pictures/katie-hopkins-worst-tweets#79wREySQQWtqhhjp.99


Another Katie Hopkins gem mocking the disabled.

Are your fingers sore from scraping the bottom of the barrel ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

She can help whoever she choose to help. It's her life. And you're missing the point entirely. The point being calling a dying woman an "ebola bomb" is completely uncalled for and twisted.

There is nothing wrong with not caring about someone who is ill.

[chuff me dizzy]

Katie Hopkins hates you. When she wins this, she will laugh at you. This show is for chav's she will say...she will say the viewers are all chavs - with sons called things like Brandom, with whom she wouldnt let her children play. Hate the woman - Hate what she stands for - which is attention and publicity just for being cruel to people. Pathetic.

Post proof that she hates me please ? Thank you

[The Penguin]

There is nothing wrong with not caring about someone who is ill.

There's definitely something wrong with calling a dying woman an "ebola bomb".

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's definitely something wrong with calling a dying woman an "ebola bomb".

She is better now so no harm done :spin:

[The Penguin]

She is better now so no harm done :spin:

That's not the point. The cretin made that tweet while the nurse's condition was still bad.

[tormented mind]

That is not mocking the disabled. It is RIGHTLY commenting on the fact that a lot of people who claim disability benefit do so falsely.

You only have to look around you. You know when it's disability day, walking sticks and limps appear all around....
She's RIGHT.

You are wrong.

She is yet again generalising and making the world look at everyone with a disability as someone who is cheating the system. It causes ill feeling and has probably caused people with disabilities much unwanted stress and upset. something a bully revels in! It could also incite hatred from certain people towards the disabled, something which someone who claims to be rather intelligent should realise.

[arista]

You may know this story

She made crude jokes about an Ebola victim, a Scottish nurse working in Africa who was transferred from Glasgow to London for treatment.

Her tweet was
"Sending us Ebola bombs in the form of sweaty Glaswegians just isn't cricket."

She is referring to a dedicated nurse who went all they way to Africa to save the lives of people as an "Ebola bomb" and a "sweaty Glaswegian". That's taking it too far. How can anyone support this creature?


I do


its Her Style


She made love in a Field
thats her

[tormented mind]

Are your fingers sore from scraping the bottom of the barrel ?

You do NOT need to scrape the bottom of anything to find something dirty, disgusting or racially motivated from Katie Hopkins.

[Tarryn]

The sad thing is that this is not even the most vile thing she has said.......

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not the point. The cretin made that tweet while the nurse's condition was still bad.

big deal

[chuff me dizzy]

You do NOT need to scrape the bottom of anything to find something dirty, disgusting or racially motivated from Katie Hopkins.

And above all ............Bloody funny !!

[The Penguin]

big deal

for many people it is

[tormented mind]

And above all ............Bloody funny !!

If you are a dirty disgusting racist.:pipe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

for many people it is

i doubt it, a little mawkish indignant faux rage perhaps

:joker:

[Josy]

And above all ............Bloody funny !!

You do realise she's having a direct snipe at you even in one of your sig tweets from her?

[The Penguin]

i doubt it, a little mawkish indignant faux rage perhaps

:joker:

Enough not to want her to win CBB though I think.

[Angelika]

maybe that nurse should have stayed in Scotland and helped people there

The nurse was smart enough to know that if Ebola wasn't controlled swiftly it would be in the UK and the rest of the world in no time.

The nurse should be given the highest honour for services to humanity - she put herself in the firing line in just the same way soldiers in our Armed Foces do. Her enemy is unseen and more deadly with the potential to wipe out millions of people in a short space of time.

You should be ashamed of yourself for what you wrote above. You obviously belong to the Non-Thinkers Club.

[chuff me dizzy]

You do realise she's having a direct snipe at you even in one of your sig tweets from her?

I dont care if I'm honest ,try something else

[Lostie!]

i doubt it, a little mawkish indignant faux rage perhaps

:joker:

Oh-so original. I've found usually on discussion forums that, when someone finds that people are angered by something they don't personally mind, they brand it "faux" anger. Guess it's one of those popular buzz phrases. :shrug:

It might sound crazy, but it's possible that people can be annoyed by something that happens to not bother you. Just a thought.

[tormented mind]

The nurse was smart enough to know that if Ebola wasn't controlled swiftly it would be in the UK and the rest of the world in no time.

The nurse should be given the highest honour for services to humanity - she put herself in the firing line in just the same way soldiers in our Armed Foces do. Her enemy is unseen and more deadly with the potential to wipe out millions of people in a short space of time.

You should be ashamed of yourself for what you wrote above. You obviously belong to the Non-Thinkers Club.

:cool:

[Josy]

I dont care if I'm honest ,try something else

You just asked for proof over the page, well you just got it...and lo and behold you now claim you don't care :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

You just asked for proof over the page, well you just got it...and lo and behold you now claim you don't care :laugh:

I find it hilarious .........Ive got an amazing sense of humour

[ebandit]

this i don't get...............why judge HM's for actions outside the house?

watch and decide

next the winner will be the most famous HM......................just wait

Mark L

[Denver]

How Can Anybody Support Perez when He Stalked Lady Gaga?

[bots]

My 2 pence worth ... the nurse went out there with the best intentions, to help save the lives of other people that are less fortunate than ourselves.

For people to suggest this was a selfish act on her part is extraordinarily stupid. She is not responsible for the screening done in this or other countries for infectious diseases, that is driven by our government, not her.

Katie Hopkins attack on her was nothing short of disgusting.

Thanks You.

[Lostie!]

My 2 pence worth ... the nurse went out there with the best intentions, to help save the lives of other people that are less fortunate than ourselves.

For people to suggest this was a selfish act on her part is extraordinarily stupid. She is not responsible for the screening done in this or other countries for infectious diseases, that is driven by our government, not her.

Katie Hopkins attack on her was nothing short of disgusting.

Thanks You.

Spot on. :clap2:

[chuff me dizzy]

How Can Anybody Support Perez when He Stalked Lady Gaga?

And threatened to anally rape a man

[Josy]

I find it hilarious .........Ive got an amazing sense of humour

Hmmm ok then

[The Penguin]

this i don't get...............why judge HM's for actions outside the house?

watch and decide

next the winner will be the most famous HM......................just wait

Mark L

None of the housemates are judged purely on behaviour within the house. That's just not possible. Each housemates have their fan base which existed before they entered the house.

[Josy]

How Can Anybody Support Perez when He Stalked Lady Gaga?

This thread isn't about Perez.

Can we stick to the thread topics instead of bring Perez up in every thread about Katie and vice versa.

[lily.]

She's no worse than Frankie Boyle. She only tweets this kind of thing for the kind of reaction you are providing her with, OP.

[lily.]

Is that MOST of them?

No it is NOT.

Yeah, it probably is to be honest.

[poppsywoppsy]

Ok, I am overweight and disabled.

I support Katie Hopkins as I realise she is not all bad as accused by some.

I feel, I could have a laugh with Katie H, many disabled people have good sense of humour and can see her as just a gobby columnist.

She doesn't offend me as I am a genuine disabled person, she has goes at those cheating the system and those who just simply overeat.

Because I cannot get about, therefore everything I eat, I cannot work off and my medication also has awful side effects.

I don't see Katie having goes as anything more than her view of saying it like it is for those who won't work or overeat or collect benefits which are not genuine claims.

So, don't speak for me, those who call her horrendous names, you do not represent me at all. There are others who she may have upset but it is up to them to say so, no one else..

[Denver]

This thread isn't about Perez.

Can we stick to the thread topics instead of bring Perez up in every thread about Katie and vice versa.

But there just different sides of the same coin and if your going to bring up the overs past then you should be looking at the overs.

[Kazanne]

Ok, I am overweight and disabled.

I support Katie Hopkins as I realise she is not all bad as accused by some.

I feel, I could have a laugh with Katie H, many disabled people have good sense of humour and can see her as just a gobby columnist.

She doesn't offend me as I am a genuine disabled person, she has goes at those cheating the system and those who just simply overeat.

Because I cannot get about, therefore everything I eat, I cannot work off and my medication also has awful side effects.

I don't see Katie having goes as anything more than her view of saying it like it is for those who won't work or overeat or collect benefits which are not genuine claims.

So, don't speak for me, those who call her horrendous names, you do not represent me at all. There are others who she may have upset but it is up to them to say so, no one else..

Way to go Poppsywoppsy:cheer2:

[tormented mind]

Ok, I am overweight and disabled.

I support Katie Hopkins as I realise she is not all bad as accused by some.

I feel, I could have a laugh with Katie H, many disabled people have good sense of humour and can see her as just a gobby columnist.

She doesn't offend me as I am a genuine disabled person, she has goes at those cheating the system and those who just simply overeat.

Because I cannot get about, therefore everything I eat, I cannot work off and my medication also has awful side effects.

I don't see Katie having goes as anything more than her view of saying it like it is for those who won't work or overeat or collect benefits which are not genuine claims.

So, don't speak for me, those who call her horrendous names, you do not represent me at all. There are others who she may have upset but it is up to them to say so, no one else..

Sorry but you only add to the problem by pandering to her inane drivel and as for saying things when ONLY them can say so.


FREE SPEECH RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW.

[lily.]

Ok, I am overweight and disabled.

I support Katie Hopkins as I realise she is not all bad as accused by some.

I feel, I could have a laugh with Katie H, many disabled people have good sense of humour and can see her as just a gobby columnist.

She doesn't offend me as I am a genuine disabled person, she has goes at those cheating the system and those who just simply overeat.

Because I cannot get about, therefore everything I eat, I cannot work off and my medication also has awful side effects.

I don't see Katie having goes as anything more than her view of saying it like it is for those who won't work or overeat or collect benefits which are not genuine claims.

So, don't speak for me, those who call her horrendous names, you do not represent me at all. There are others who she may have upset but it is up to them to say so, no one else..

Good for you Poppsy. I totally agree with you. I'm not disabled, but I do hate the benefit cheats who take money from the system when there is eff-all wrong with them. That money could be better spent on people who are genuinely disabled and need funds spent to adapt housing etc. Where I live there's a 'won't work' culture and yet they all have foreign holidays and brand new 'motability' cars. It sickens me. I was raised to work for things you want, and only to claim if you are in genuine need. So yeah, if that's the people KH has been slagging off, then I agree with her.

As to being overweight... I''m a fatty.. and it's because I eat junk food, and don't exercise enough. When I eat right, and exercise regularly, I lose weight, so she might be blunt, but she's right.. I'm fat for no other reason than my own lifestyle choices, so how can I get offended for that. It's like getting offended for being called loud when you are loud.. (which I also am... fat, loud and proud... got a lot goin for me here... haha)

[Jamesy]

Who cares what she has said. I like her as a housemate, she has entertained and amused me. When she's back out and goes back to offending people I'll most likely so what I did before she was on BB. Sigh and laugh.

If any other Katie fans are like me though, we enjoy her as a housemate and how she has been on Big Brother.

Anyone could make a similar thread listing every bad thing Perez has done outside the house...

[Lostie!]

Anyone could make a similar thread listing every bad thing Perez has done outside the house...

Correct, they could, and it's reasonable if someone negatively judges him for it, just like it is with Katie Hopkins.

[The Penguin]

Ok, I am overweight and disabled.

I support Katie Hopkins as I realise she is not all bad as accused by some.

I feel, I could have a laugh with Katie H, many disabled people have good sense of humour and can see her as just a gobby columnist.

She doesn't offend me as I am a genuine disabled person, she has goes at those cheating the system and those who just simply overeat.

Because I cannot get about, therefore everything I eat, I cannot work off and my medication also has awful side effects.

I don't see Katie having goes as anything more than her view of saying it like it is for those who won't work or overeat or collect benefits which are not genuine claims.

So, don't speak for me, those who call her horrendous names, you do not represent me at all. There are others who she may have upset but it is up to them to say so, no one else..

To be fair this thread wasn't about anything she has said about fat or disabled people. It was about her mocking a dying woman by referring her as an "Ebola bomb".
And someone doesn't have to be a target of abuse to be upset by it. It's called empathy.

[MrWong]

She made a joke, as you said.

You either find it funny or you don't.

Personally I didn't find it funny but I can still like her as a housemate.

[poppsywoppsy]

Good for you Poppsy. I totally agree with you. I'm not disabled, but I do hate the benefit cheats who take money from the system when there is eff-all wrong with them. That money could be better spent on people who are genuinely disabled and need funds spent to adapt housing etc. Where I live there's a 'won't work' culture and yet they all have foreign holidays and brand new 'motability' cars. It sickens me. I was raised to work for things you want, and only to claim if you are in genuine need. So yeah, if that's the people KH has been slagging off, then I agree with her.

As to being overweight... I''m a fatty.. and it's because I eat junk food, and don't exercise enough. When I eat right, and exercise regularly, I lose weight, so she might be blunt, but she's right.. I'm fat for no other reason than my own lifestyle choices, so how can I get offended for that. It's like getting offended for being called loud when you are loud.. (which I also am... fat, loud and proud... got a lot goin for me here... haha)


Hooray for us, Yes, she is right in some cases, even I won't say all.

She is gobby, feisty, stubborn and has a huge persona and I like her.

She has kept me entertained by her time in the house and no one is going to use my disablement by talking for me.

My daughter is also disabled but she has a good life and can and will speak up for herself.

I don't want or need the PC Brigade jumping on my case by attacking KH as they are.

[Robodog]

Yet another thread trying oh-so-desperately to get people to 'hate' KH, or make them 'feel bad' for liking her.

In response to the OP :

Frankie Boyle has made MUCH more cutting edge jokes than that - and he's brilliant !!

Long Live The Right To Make Offensive Jokes !

If they misfire and aren't that funny (like KH's ebola joke) then so what? Just move on.

Plenty of unfunny jokes out there, offensive ones and inoffensive ones.

Plenty of funny ones too, some offensive, some inoffensive.

Thank God we live in a country where we can make cutting edge jokes. Anyone who doesn't like it, i suggest they move to a country where freedom of expression is seriously repressed, and see how they like it there.

[Jack The Cat]

Yet another thread trying oh-so-desperately to get people to 'hate' KH, or make them 'feel bad' for liking her.

In response to the OP :

Frankie Boyle has made MUCH more cutting edge jokes than that - and he's brilliant !!

Long Live The Right To Make Offensive Jokes !

If they misfire and aren't that funny (like KH's ebola joke) then so what? Just move on.

Plenty of unfunny jokes out there, offensive ones and inoffensive ones.

Plenty of funny ones too, some offensive, some inoffensive.

Thank God we live in a country where we can make cutting edge jokes. Anyone who doesn't like it, i suggest they move to a country where freedom of expression is seriously repressed, and see how they like it there.

Good post.

[poppsywoppsy]

To be fair this thread wasn't about anything she has said about fat or disabled people. It was about her mocking a dying woman by referring her as an "Ebola bomb".
And someone doesn't have to be a target of abuse to be upset by it. It's called empathy.

Maybe not, in this thread but we seem to be lumped in by some with all the other groups KH has commented on.

Empathy is fine as long as it is just that and not ignoring that some might be disabled but we have a tongue in our heads and can and will put our point of view across and don't want someone who has little idea, lumping us all together to attack KH.

[tormented mind]

Maybe not, in this thread but we seem to be lumped in by some with all the other groups KH has commented on.

Empathy is fine as long as it is just that and not ignoring that some might be disabled but we have a tongue in our heads and can and will put our point of view across and don't want someone who has little idea, lumping us all together to attack KH.

But what about KH lumping you altogether to attack the scroungers, that's fine yeah?

[poppsywoppsy]

Good post.

Oh, I like that Liam Gallagher quote

And just think he was married to Peace and Love Patsy.

[poppsywoppsy]

But what about KH lumping you altogether to attack the scroungers, that's fine yeah?

There you go, see what I mean? Perfect example of using us to attack KH again.

KH can attack scroungers all she likes, thank you, full stop. (Keith)

[tormented mind]

There you go, see what I mean? Perfect example of using us to attack KH again.

KH can attack scroungers all she likes, thank you, full stop. (Keith)

Don't get above your station, I was not using you to attack KH.

I was only repeating what she had said herself when she said MOST disability allowance receivers would be able to climb to the top of a ladder, it is her that uses people by putting everyone in the same bracket to have a go at the minority, not me.

[Robodog]

Good post.

Cheers Jack.

BTW I really enjoyed your long post the other day with the Salman Rushdie quotes. That was excellent reading. Took being on the forum to a whole new level. Just thought i'd mention it now, as i was unable to post at the time.

[poppsywoppsy]

Don't get above your station, I was not using you to attack KH.

I was only repeating what she had said herself when she said MOST disability allowance receivers would be able to climb to the top of a ladder, it is her that uses people by putting everyone in the same bracket to have a go at the minority, not me.

Please don't tell me to get above my station as it is rude and not up to you.

Apart from that, I have actually seen a neighbour on DA do exactly that putting up his Christmas lights, so personally I have seen what she wrote with my own eyes. It DOES happen.

[The Penguin]

Maybe not, in this thread but we seem to be lumped in by some with all the other groups KH has commented on.

Empathy is fine as long as it is just that and not ignoring that some might be disabled but we have a tongue in our heads and can and will put our point of view across and don't want someone who has little idea, lumping us all together to attack KH.

Many people in a targeted group would be quite upset if the only people who complained about someone's comments were people from that group.
They would feel like the rest of society doesn't care about them.

Maybe you didn't but I'm sure many overweight and disabled people welcomed criticism of Katie Hopkins from people who weren't directly targeted by those comments.

Anyway this thread is about her more serious comments mocking a dying woman.

[Kazanne]

Please don't tell me to get above my station as it is rude and not up to you.

Apart from that, I have actually seen a neighbour on DA do exactly that putting up his Christmas lights, so personally I have seen what she wrote with my own eyes. It DOES happen.

Of course it does , and I wonder why people protest too much, nail on the head perhaps?

[Kazanne]

Many people in a targeted group would be quite upset if the only people who complained about someone's comments were people from that group.
They would feel like the rest of society doesn't care about them.

Maybe you didn't but I'm sure many overweight and disabled people welcomed criticism of Katie Hopkins from people who weren't directly targeted by those comments.

Anyway this thread is about her more serious comments mocking a dying woman.

She didn't mock a dying woman ,it was Perez who wished death on someone:smug:

[tormented mind]

She mocked the Scottish nurse who was dying from ebola kezzane, you can NOT say she didn't. Well you probably can but I'm sure you won't be meaning it.

[Denver]

This has feck all to do with her time in the house imo

[poppsywoppsy]

I can tell you what I bloody like, it's up to you to do it or not, but I can and will tell you.

You are being offensive towards another poster, not clever

[poppsywoppsy]

Many people in a targeted group would be quite upset if the only people who complained about someone's comments were people from that group.
They would feel like the rest of society doesn't care about them.

Maybe you didn't but I'm sure many overweight and disabled people welcomed criticism of Katie Hopkins from people who weren't directly targeted by those comments.

Anyway this thread is about her more serious comments mocking a dying woman.

So you feel able to speak for them through no wish from them personally.

I was targeted as you say and another poster has commented and we agree with her.

[tormented mind]

You are being offensive towards another poster, not clever

I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

[Tip]

Seeing as some of my workmates are people who work full-time but receive DLA, I'm not sure what comments about climbing ladders at Christmas are to do with the price of bread.

Katie H is a wind up merchant for a living - she couldn't seem to hold down a proper job.

[Kazanne]

I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

Why are you segregating disabled people out,as thought they are different,we are all the same somethings work, some don't,but just because someone is disabled does not mean they have lost a sense of humour along with their disability,or the ability to be open minded,what an insult.

[Kazanne]

You are being offensive towards another poster, not clever

Yes ,looks like he/she can offend,but when KH does it ,it's wrong,you couldn't write some of these things,lol

[Withano]

People have always only been judged by the things they have done inside the house.

This is why Dappy (who is inarguably a worse human being than Hopkins) ended up leaving loved by the public and coming 2nd place, Adam from Deana's civilian series who had a stint in prison left to a very similar reaction, and then theres our national treasures like Goodyear and Vinnie Jones who left to vicious boos.

It's been this way as long as I remember and although it's annoying and it shouldn't be the case at all, it just is. People are judged by the things that they do inside the house and very little else, accept it and move on!

[poppsywoppsy]

I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

Could you keep this at discussion level and not aim it at the poster.

I only agree with KH on certain things which I have written many times.

She has said unfortunate things which I have again said I disagree with.

However, CBB is a game show, not political and should be viewed as only that.

I can take KH with a pinch of salt as I do not think it is worth getting over excited or abusive over.

She has no political powers so she cannot be blamed for anything happening in the world, all she has is her opinions.

If you disagree, absolutely fine but to get so angry about her is detrimental because at the end of the day she is impotent whilst others are letting themselves get all worked up because she is in a flipping game show which ends in a couple of days.

And breathe

Keep calm and vote for whoever you want and so will I.

[Josy]

Stick to discussing BB or housemates in here and NOT other members

[Jack The Cat]

Could you keep this at discussion level and not aim it at the poster.

I only agree with KH on certain things which I have written many times.

She has said unfortunate things which I have again said I disagree with.

However, CBB is a game show, not political and should be viewed as only that.

I can take KH with a pinch of salt as I do not think it is worth getting over excited or abusive over.

She has no political powers so she cannot be blamed for anything happening in the world, all she has is her opinions.

If you disagree, absolutely fine but to get so angry about her is detrimental because at the end of the day she is impotent whilst others are letting themselves get all worked up because she is in a flipping game show which ends in a couple of days.

And breathe

Keep calm and vote for whoever you want and so will I.

Brilliant post. Funny how both sides seem to have a very different style of debate, in a general sense.

[The Penguin]

So you feel able to speak for them through no wish from them personally.


I'm not speaking for you anyway. I don't really know or care what she said about fat people.
The thread and 99% of the replies are about her comments about the nurse who had Ebola.
Stop trying to make this about fat people just because one person mentioned that.

[tormented mind]

Could you keep this at discussion level and not aim it at the poster.

I only agree with KH on certain things which I have written many times.

She has said unfortunate things which I have again said I disagree with.

However, CBB is a game show, not political and should be viewed as only that.

I can take KH with a pinch of salt as I do not think it is worth getting over excited or abusive over.

She has no political powers so she cannot be blamed for anything happening in the world, all she has is her opinions.

If you disagree, absolutely fine but to get so angry about her is detrimental because at the end of the day she is impotent whilst others are letting themselves get all worked up because she is in a flipping game show which ends in a couple of days.

And breathe

Keep calm and vote for whoever you want and so will I.

I am not getting angry! why would I?

[Jack The Cat]

I am not, I am stating that you are part of the problem in society when the likes of KH can spout her vile intolerance for others by putting everyone with a disability that claims disability allowance into the category of being a scrounger who would suddenly find legs that worked so they could climb a ladder to get the money.

I believe you pander to this by laughing along with her at people with disabilities.

Even if you are disabled or not it's still (to me) disgusting that people do.

so please, show me where I have been offensive (considering you don't find laughing at disabled people offensive)

Not a cool post.:nono:

[poppsywoppsy]

Not a cool post.:nono:

Agreed:laugh:

[poppsywoppsy]

I am not getting angry! why would I?

I was posting generally, not about you.

[tormented mind]

Why are you segregating disabled people out,as thought they are different,we are all the same somethings work, some don't,but just because someone is disabled does not mean they have lost a sense of humour along with their disability,or the ability to be open minded,what an insult.

Am I. Sorry all I was doing was quoting a tweet from the hater Hopkins about disabled people and then commentating on poppsywoppsys response.

If anyone has singled out disabled people it is Hopkins not me, But I am sorry if me quoting her and then discussing her quote has offended anyone, but I do believe you are blaming THE WRONG PERSON.

[tormented mind]

Not a cool post.:nono:

Unlike the sig you so proudly display, a sig from the king of the chavs about glassing someone, you could not make this stuff up.

[Josy]

Unlike the sig you so proudly display, a sig from the king of the chavs about glassing someone, you could not make this stuff up.

Stop ignoring the warning I posted in the thread.

[The Penguin]

I'm not sure I understand the sentiment that it doesn't matter what she said outside of the house. Would you vote for a convicted rapist if they were in the house?

Big Brother is a competition where the public votes for one of the contestants to win, presumably because they believe that person has qualities worth praising.
So her comments where she crudely mocks a woman who is near death are very relevant to a popularity based show like Big Brother.

[MTVN]

I find all the pouring over KH's past comments pretty tedious really. Yes a lot of them are disgusting, yes she's trying to be controversial for the sake of it, yes she said this, yes she said that, is it the sort of thing we all need to lose our heads over daily because of it. A lot of celebrity housemates have questionable views and questionable careers, it's what makes them attractive prospects for producers. I'm not normally one to say 'judge them by how they are in the house' because I think it's fair enough to base a dislike of someone on them saying stuff like this, and doing so unashamedly for publicity, but when we're three weeks into this series and still going on about it there's not much productive discussion to be had really.

[tormented mind]

l) Treat other forum members with respect. Posts which insult or direct profanity towards another member, will immediately be deleted, or edited out. This may lead to a ban.


still don't really see what I have done to merit an infraction thing!

[poppsywoppsy]

I'm not sure I understand the sentiment that it doesn't matter what she said outside of the house. Would you vote for a convicted rapist if they were in the house?

Big Brother is a competition where the public votes for one of the contestants to win, presumably because they believe that person has qualities worth praising.
So her comments where she crudely mocks a woman who is near death are very relevant to a popularity based show like Big Brother.

Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Also, I disagree with the qualities you quote for voting for a person, remember Helen Wood and Charlotte Crosby? I didn't care for them but accepted others did and sometimes it can be a vote against PC restraint, who knows, there will be another BB coming along in the summer which contestants will be more to your liking.

[Jack The Cat]

Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Hear, hear.

[Jack The Cat]

l) Treat other forum members with respect. Posts which insult or direct profanity towards another member, will immediately be deleted, or edited out. This may lead to a ban.


still don't really see what I have done to merit an infraction thing!

I would suggest you address that issue with the Admin.

[Lostie!]

Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Also, I disagree with the qualities you quote for voting for a person, remember Helen Wood and Charlotte Crosby? I didn't care for them but accepted others did and sometimes it can be a vote against PC restraint, who knows, there will be another BB coming along in the summer which contestants will be more to your liking.

The only thing being laid at her door is the comments she made.

[tormented mind]

Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

but if we all did that we would be left with, "I'm voting keith or I'm voting Katie" threads.

How the housemates are outside the house is very relevant especially celeb bb because how they have been outside the house is usually the catalyst for them being selected to go in the house, therefore it is very relevant to discuss how they have been outside the house, they do belong to us for the few weeks of bb.

[tormented mind]

I would suggest you address that issue with the Admin.

If I cared one tiny bit I would, or if the boogers would answer the emails.

[Kazanne]

I find all the pouring over KH's past comments pretty tedious really. Yes a lot of them are disgusting, yes she's trying to be controversial for the sake of it, yes she said this, yes she said that, is it the sort of thing we all need to lose our heads over daily because of it. A lot of celebrity housemates have questionable views and questionable careers, it's what makes them attractive prospects for producers. I'm not normally one to say 'judge them by how they are in the house' because I think it's fair enough to base a dislike of someone on them saying stuff like this, and doing so unashamedly for publicity, but when we're three weeks into this series and still going on about it there's not much productive discussion to be had really.

:clap1::clap1:It's just the same old thing over and over,good post MTVN

[poppsywoppsy]

but if we all did that we would be left with, "I'm voting keith or I'm voting Katie" threads.

How the housemates are outside the house is very relevant especially celeb bb because how they have been outside the house is usually the catalyst for them being selected to go in the house, therefore it is very relevant to discuss how they have been outside the house, they do belong to us for the few weeks of bb.

Not necessarily although you might have a point.

We could always try it for a change.:laugh::laugh:

[Jack The Cat]

The only thing being laid at her door is the comments she made.

Tbf, I have seen lots of comments from people blaming Katie for issues that she has not commented on. One popular one seems to be her opinions directly lead to increasing numbers of people becoming terrorists.

[Stormy]

Again that is taking it to the utmost edges of discussion, we do not need to go that far.

It's a game show, if you like him or her vote for them or not.

So don't vote for Katie if you don't like her

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.

We know most of her opinions but some chose how she has been in the house as reason to vote for her. Others don't.

It will all be over soon and she will be gone apart from appearances on BBBOTS.

Also, I disagree with the qualities you quote for voting for a person, remember Helen Wood and Charlotte Crosby? I didn't care for them but accepted others did and sometimes it can be a vote against PC restraint, who knows, there will be another BB coming along in the summer which contestants will be more to your liking.

Excellent post!!! :thumbs:

[tormented mind]

Not necessarily although you might have a point.

We could always try it for a change.:laugh::laugh:

imagine the answers in the KH or Perez ones..Iam, I'm not, well I am , well go on then but I'm not, you should, I shouldn't, you will, I can't you could, please for me, no, yes.

[Jules2]

Hooray for us, Yes, she is right in some cases, even I won't say all.

She is gobby, feisty, stubborn and has a huge persona and I like her.

She has kept me entertained by her time in the house and no one is going to use my disablement by talking for me.

My daughter is also disabled but she has a good life and can and will speak up for herself.

I don't want or need the PC Brigade jumping on my case by attacking KH as they are.

Well said Poppsy, I to am overweight and I also have a disabled daughter.

I think people pick on one explanation of a thing without seeing the wider picture. I know I could lose weight and be more active even with RA but I am happy as I am so KHs words do not effect me one little bit tbh. Her meaning is obvious with her friendship to the chappie who stood up for her on BOTS, he is lovely and rather well built.

I have enjoyed her in the house and I have looked at the deeper meaning of some of her comments, most of which have an underlying meaning. The one which comes to mind but which I have said before, is the one re not going in there to make friends. I always like to let people come to me, then I know they want to be with me. To creep is to patronise especially in the situation she is in. :wavey: As I said I do agree with quite a bit of her comments.

[Lostie!]

Tbf, I have seen lots of comments from people blaming Katie for issues that she has not commented on. One popular one seems to be her opinions directly lead to increasing numbers of people becoming terrorists.

Well, that's of course a serious exaggeration. :shocked:

But judging her for comments she chose to make (in this instance, mocking a then-seriously ill ebola sufferer) is entirely fair, I don't think that's laying any more at her door than is warranted.

[Jules2]

But what about KH lumping you altogether to attack the scroungers, that's fine yeah?

There is a difference, we have genuinely disabled people who should be able to claim but then there are those who scrounge and get everything. My daughter is disabled and there is no possibility of her working. My ex nextdoor neighbour was classed as disabled and yet he was out underneath his car, cutting hedges, standing on ladders etc. etc. That is the difference and imo that is how it should be read. Genuine disabled people do not ask for the disability but they need to be supported. So let us separate her views and understand what she was saying.

[The Penguin]

Bringing up extreme cases of worldwide strife and laying it at her door because she has an outspoken opinion, seems clutching at straws if you want to get her out of the house.


I'm not laying anything at her door besides what she said.

What does being outspoken have to do with making an idiotic joke about someone dying from a deadly disease? How is that being outspoken?

[Kizzy]

Many mocked her for even going in the first place so wheres the difference? #doublestandard

[Kazanne]

It's pointless going round in circles all the time,just get the fact some people LIKE her.

[Kazanne]

Many mocked her for even going in the first place so wheres the difference? #doublestandard

My queens better than your queen :hehe::joker::joker::wavey:

[The Penguin]

Well said Poppsy, I to am overweight and I also have a disabled daughter.

I think people pick on one explanation of a thing without seeing the wider picture. I know I could lose weight and be more active even with RA but I am happy as I am so KHs words do not effect me one little bit tbh. Her meaning is obvious with her friendship to the chappie who stood up for her on BOTS, he is lovely and rather well built.

I have enjoyed her in the house and I have looked at the deeper meaning of some of her comments, most of which have an underlying meaning. The one which comes to mind but which I have said before, is the one re not going in there to make friends. I always like to let people come to me, then I know they want to be with me. To creep is to patronise especially in the situation she is in. :wavey: As I said I do agree with quite a bit of her comments.

That's all and well but I never started this thread because I care at all about what she said about fat people.

[Kizzy]

My queens better than your queen :hehe::joker::joker::wavey:

She is... she is the supreme queen, the grand high witch :joker:

[Kazanne]

She is... she is the supreme queen, the grand high witch :joker:

:laugh::thumbs:

[AnnieK]

It's pointless going round in circles all the time,just get the fact some people LIKE her.

I do agree with this....some like her, some don't and I honestly don't think one person on here in the last week or so have been persuaded that their opinion of her is wrong. It's the same points laboured in every thread. If she (or Perez) for that matter found a cure for cancer tomorrow, I can't see that many people changing their views on them as people :laugh:

[Kazanne]

I do agree with this....some like her, some don't and I honestly don't think one person on here in the last week or so have been persuaded that their opinion of her is wrong. It's the same points laboured in every thread. If she (or Perez) for that matter found a cure for cancer tomorrow, I can't see that many people changing their views on them as people :laugh:

Do you want to join her fan club Annie!!!!!? :joker::joker: only joking,your post is spot on.

[The Penguin]

It's pointless going round in circles all the time,just get the fact some people LIKE her.

then go to another thread and talk about something else

[Philanthropite]

Gonna love it when she goes tonight with VTE.

[poppsywoppsy]

I'm not laying anything at her door besides what she said.

What does being outspoken have to do with making an idiotic joke about soEmeone dying from a deadly disease? How is that being outspoken?

It is in the perception.

I was quite amazed they moved the nurse to England and even more concerned that health workers were not thoroughly checked and in quarantine before coming back to the UK. Several tests were not carried out, it seems.

I was more concerned about that aspect than KH mocking the Scots. It is what she and others like Private Eye have been lampooning for years.

By making more of her posts, you give her publicity, so if you want her silenced, ignore her.

[Denver]

Gonna love it when she goes tonight with VTE.

You think more people will vote for her then Perez?

[abhorson]

It's pointless going round in circles all the time,just get the fact some people LIKE her.


Aye. Way too many threads on the same thing. I am glad that it is all over on Friday.

Four days of peace without Perez:hehe:

[poppsywoppsy]

then go to another thread and talk about something else

Sadly, the OP doesn't have the say in where others post.

[abhorson]

Freddie Starr used to eat hamsters! I still went to his shows.

[Jack The Cat]

Gonna love it when she goes tonight with VTE.

Any particular reason why you think that would be the case. All the available evidence suggests that Perez is more unpopular that Katie

[AnnieK]

Is it definitely VTE.....will be Perez for sure if so

[Lostie!]

Sadly, the OP doesn't have the say in where others post.

If someone brands their topic "pointless", it's reasonable to suggest they simply ignore the thread then.

[The Penguin]

I was quite amazed they moved the nurse to England and even more concerned that health workers were not thoroughly checked and in quarantine before coming back to the UK. Several tests were not carried out, it seems.

Once she was in the UK the priority was getting her the best available treatment. If Ebola erupted in Scotland it would not stop at Hadrian's Wall. They made the right call and it worked. However I agree that they should do more tests before letting someone come back to the UK.


I was more concerned about that aspect than KH mocking the Scots. It is what she and others like Private Eye have been lampooning for years.

Mocking Scots was the least of the issues. She mocked a dying person on twitter. Private eye have never stooped to that level. There's nothing normal or sane about that comment.

[The Penguin]

Sadly, the OP doesn't have the say in where others post.

Yes I'm aware of that. It was a suggestion based on that person's comment about this discussion being pointless.

[Kizzy]

then go to another thread and talk about something else

If you don't want answers to your questions don't start a thread posing a question :shrug:

[Lostie!]

If you don't want answers to your questions don't start a thread posing a question :shrug:

It's quite the opposite, I assume the OP wants people to discuss the topic. The person they're referring to wasn't providing "answers to his questions", but instead branding the discussion pointless.

[DemolitionRed]

Yet another thread trying oh-so-desperately to get people to 'hate' KH, or make them 'feel bad' for liking her.

In response to the OP :

Frankie Boyle has made MUCH more cutting edge jokes than that - and he's brilliant !!

Long Live The Right To Make Offensive Jokes !

If they misfire and aren't that funny (like KH's ebola joke) then so what? Just move on.

Plenty of unfunny jokes out there, offensive ones and inoffensive ones.

Plenty of funny ones too, some offensive, some inoffensive.

Thank God we live in a country where we can make cutting edge jokes. Anyone who doesn't like it, i suggest they move to a country where freedom of expression is seriously repressed, and see how they like it there.

We are still fairly repressed in the UK when it comes to freedom of expression and speech. There is a very fine line regarding what the British are allowed to say and what will get them raked over the hot coals and Hopkins walks on that knife edge.

[Kizzy]

It's quite the opposite, I assume the OP wants people to discuss the topic. The person they're referring to wasn't providing "answers to his questions", but instead branding the discussion pointless.

It is still an answer though isn't it?
It's already descended into 'he said, she said'

[Lostie!]

It is still an answer though isn't it?
It's already descended into 'he said, she said'

No, not really. People create threads for the purpose of discussion, not for someone to just write the topic off as pointless.

As they (quite rightly) said, people might as well ignore topics they deem pointless and spend their time elsewhere. Saying just that doesn't equate to someone starting threads and then not wanting answers.

If someone thinks that KH detractors should shut up and "just accept" that others like her, fine, but some people evidently do want to discuss the topic. Anyone who deems it pointless can very easily ignore it, that was their point, and quite a reasonable one too.

[KatieHopkinsNose]

The Katie H fans don't know how to defend her anymore - I'm loving this. Yet when people complain about Perez, they're the first to talk.