all americans dont ger humour and iron?

[the truth]

says bigoted bully Hopkins.......she slags all americans yet again and michelle says fark all........the land with no humour has given us the vast majority of best comedy shows and movies and comedians ever....bully Hopkins chatted more vile bigoted bully sh*t yet again...bitter twat

[mazerunner_888]

Think Katie is a sinking ship and the last of the rats are jumping off.

[bots]

says bigoted bully Hopkins.......she slags all americans yet again and michelle says fark all........the land with no humour has given us the vast majority of best comedy shows and movies and comedians ever....bully Hopkins chatted more vile bigoted bully sh*t yet again...bitter twat

repeating the same old stuff over and over isnt going to convert anyone to that way of thinking :shrug:

[MrWong]

Being eternally outraged must be draining.

[mazerunner_888]

Being eternally outraged must be draining.

Hopkins makes it very easy.

[Withano]

Being eternally outraged must be draining.

:joker:

[the truth]

Hopkins makes it very easy.

true lol

[Black Dagger]

Yeah her xenophobic ways all series have been tedious to say the least.

[the truth]

its just pitiful bigotry

[rusticgal]

Listen... I love the Americans, like all nationalities we all have different characteristics both in looks and behaviour. In my job I deal with ALL nationalities, some don't say please or thank you...some never smile, some are more demanding than others...some are more laid back than others...its a cultural thing. Americans do not get our sense of humour and equally we don't get theirs.... It's not being disrespectful..it's being honest.

[Jack_]

As I said earlier replace the nationality with Indian and we'd have had another race row

[the truth]

Listen... I love the Americans, like all nationalities we all have different characteristics both in looks and behaviour. In my job I deal with ALL nationalities, some don't say please or thank you...some never smile, some are more demanding than others...some are more laid back than others...its a cultural thing. Americans do not get our sense of humour and equally we don't get theirs.... It's not being disrespectful..it's being honest.

its not its bigoted generalized nonsense

[the truth]

As I said earlier replace the nationality with Indian and we'd have had another race row

exactly its mega double standards

[Angelika]

says bigoted bully Hopkins.......she slags all americans yet again and michelle says fark all........the land with no humour has given us the vast majority of best comedy shows and movies and comedians ever....bully Hopkins chatted more vile bigoted bully sh*t yet again...bitter twat

What a desperate chump that Michelle must be to sit by and allow Hopkins to speak disrespectfully about her nation. Hopkins should be the next one voted out the CBB house to the biggest Boooooo's in BB history.

The Sun must be very desperate to pay her to insult their clients on a daily basis.

[the truth]

What a desperate chump that Michelle must be to sit by and allow Hopkins to speak disrespectfully about her nation. Hopkins should be the next one voted out the CBB house to the biggest Boooooo's in BB history.

The Sun must be very desperate to pay her to insult their clients on a daily basis.

I know its pathetic

[rusticgal]

its not its bigoted generalized nonsense

I disagree... But then I disagree about the over reaction to a lot of things that are seen as being 'racial' and bigoted. We are all different in our cultures and people should be able to recognise that and accept it so long as it isn't portrayed as being 'wrong' and not stated in a detrimental way.
When KH says something like...well they are American...at first you think Oh she can't say that...but then why cant she?... Americans have their ways as the British have theirs etc etc...its culture..it's different nationalities with different characteristics...

[the truth]

I disagree... But then I disagree about the over reaction to a lot of things that are seen as being 'racial' and bigoted. We are all different in our cultures and people should be able to recognise that and accept it so long as it isn't portrayed as being 'wrong' and not stated in a detrimental way.
When KH says something like...well they are American...at first you think Oh she can't say that...but then why cant she?... Americans have their ways as the British have theirs etc etc...its culture..it's different nationalities with different characteristics...

that's your opinion I think its a bigoted one

[smudgie]

:shrug: comedians have said for years that the comedy doesn't travel well over the pond.

I think if is different for comedy drama, plenty of successful shows over the years.

[Angelika]

Listen... I love the Americans.

Take a look at my edit! :hehe:

We all need to be more tolerant. Thanks for loving Americans, they are nice people too - many are descended from British ancestors and share our language and culture. Americans have a fabulous sense of humour that's why we import
American movies and commedians. :wavey:

[abhorson]

says bigoted bully Hopkins.......she slags all americans yet again and michelle says fark all........the land with no humour has given us the vast majority of best comedy shows and movies and comedians ever....bully Hopkins chatted more vile bigoted bully sh*t yet again...bitter twat

Movies OK. But stop right there with the other two ffs.

[the truth]

:shrug: comedians have said for years that the comedy doesn't travel well over the pond.

I think if is different for comedy drama, plenty of successful shows over the years.

they loved stan laurel , they love billy Connolly, they loved benny hill, they loved john cleese and python, they love steve coogan , they loved the office, they like hugh grant , judy dench does some comedy, the liked absolutely fabulous, they've treated simon cowell well considering what a twat he can be, they get our humour.......I actually think its often more a case we don't get their humour

[abhorson]

Think Katie is a sinking ship and the last of the rats are jumping off.

Yep. KP might go on Wednesday.

[Denver]

As I said earlier replace the nationality with Indian and we'd have had another race row

American and Indians are not a race

[the truth]

American and Indians are not a race

its still discrimination and the indigenous americans are a race

[abhorson]

its still discrimination and the indigenous americans are a race

And were nearly wiped out by Americans!

[smudgie]

they loved stan laurel , they love billy Connolly, they loved benny hill, they loved john cleese and python, they love steve coogan , they loved the office, they like hugh grant , judy dench does some comedy, the liked absolutely fabulous, they've treated simon cowell well considering what a twat he can be, they get our humour.......I actually think its often more a case we don't get their humour

Quite possibly.

[the truth]

And were nearly wiped out by Americans!

and we English tried to wipe out the welsh scots and irish back in the day, oh and we were over in America too wiping out thousands of them imposing our monarchy on them too?its relevant to the bigotry shown in big brother against the americans how?

[rusticgal]

Take a look at my edit! :hehe:

We all need to be more tolerant. Thanks for loving Americans, they are nice people too - many are descended from British ancestors and share our language and culture. Americans have a fabulous sense of humour that's why we import
American movies and commedians. :wavey:

I totally agree. We do need to be tolerant but being honest about other nationalities traits and behaviour is not being disrespectful.
It upsets me that someone perceives my views as bigoted. I respect and tolerate differences in cultures, I have spent all of my working life amoungst people from all over the world...which is why I recognise how very different we all are from nationalities and even regions of our own country. People need to not get over sensitive about it...

[the truth]

I totally agree. We do need to be tolerant but being honest about other nationalities traits and behaviour is not being disrespectful.
It upsets me that someone perceives my views as bigoted. I respect and tolerate differences in cultures, I have spent all of my working life amoungst people from all over the world...which is why I recognise how very different we all are from nationalities and even regions of our own country. People need to not get over sensitive about it...

its not honest its dishonest and it is bigotry....90% of the funniest comedians and funny shows and funny movies and funny actors come from America so for a bigot like bully Hopkins to endlessly slag all americans as lacking humour and irony is a lie a bigoted lie plain and simple

[rusticgal]

its not honest its dishonest and it is bigotry....90% of the funniest comedians and funny shows and funny movies and funny actors come from America so for a bigot like bully Hopkins to endlessly slag all americans as lacking humour and irony is a lie a bigoted lie plain and simple

I don't think she slagged off Americans as 'lacking in humour'...she insinuates 'they don't get our humour'. If I have got that wrong then I don't and won't defend her.
I have joked with Americans and they laugh at my 'dry' humour once the penny has dropped. Take for example 'the Office'..I love that programme, but not every one does, everyone has there own humour. When the Americans created their own version I found it predictable and unfunny. The only American humour I have found brilliant is Friends..which I love more than the Office. Each to their own, we all have different takes on it. Please don't call me a bigot. It's your opinion that you think 90 per cent of movies etc from America provide us with the most humour...that's your opinion but not mine but that doesn't make me a bigot.

[abhorson]

and we English tried to wipe out the welsh scots and irish back in the day, oh and we were over in America too wiping out thousands of them imposing our monarchy on them too?its relevant to the bigotry shown in big brother against the americans how?


History not your subject then?

[the truth]

I don't think she slagged off Americans as 'lacking in humour'...she insinuates 'they don't get our humour'. If I have got that wrong then I don't and won't defend her.
I have joked with Americans and they laugh at my 'dry' humour once the penny has dropped. Take for example 'the Office'..I love that programme, but not every one does, everyone has there own humour. When the Americans created their own version I found it predictable and unfunny. The only American humour I have found brilliant is Friends..which I love more than the Office. Each to their own, we all have different takes on it. Please don't call me a bigot. It's your opinion that you think 90 per cent of movies etc from America provide us with the most humour...that's your opinion but not mine but that doesn't make me a bigot.

shes slagged off the americans throughout and said they don't have humour and they don't get irony, we English say it so often its making us look like bigots...its utter drivel and its totally embarassing

[wendywillow]

I don't think she slagged off Americans as 'lacking in humour'...she insinuates 'they don't get our humour'. If I have got that wrong then I don't and won't defend her.
I have joked with Americans and they laugh at my 'dry' humour once the penny has dropped. Take for example 'the Office'..I love that programme, but not every one does, everyone has there own humour. When the Americans created their own version I found it predictable and unfunny. The only American humour I have found brilliant is Friends..which I love more than the Office. Each to their own, we all have different takes on it. Please don't call me a bigot. It's your opinion that you think 90 per cent of movies etc from America provide us with the most humour...that's your opinion but not mine but that doesn't make me a bigot.



americans LOVE british humor, which is why they've aired old monty python reruns for years, benny hill, fawty towers, plus the original office etc we like some Canadian humor too thanks to classic SCTV but you guys are up there :thumbs:

[sodak22]

Katie H only slags off Americans in reference to Perez tbf. Perez epitomizes the self-loving nature and OTT-ness she relates to Americans (not fair to any nationality IMO, but everyone gets generalized). Does/did Katie H have a problem with Cami, Michelle, Jeremy, Alex, or Callum? I enjoy many Brit shows and many American shows, some are my sense of humor and some are not. We are all very diverse and to generalize about a generalization is wrong as well.......... Irony.

[Niamh.]

says bigoted bully Hopkins.......she slags all americans yet again and michelle says fark all........the land with no humour has given us the vast majority of best comedy shows and movies and comedians ever....bully Hopkins chatted more vile bigoted bully sh*t yet again...bitter twat

I know right? I can't believe that Michelle just sat there like a ****ing moron and let her say that stuff about her nationality. Michelle is such a massive disappointment

[Ellen]

Katie H only slags off Americans in reference to Perez tbf. Perez epitomizes the self-loving nature and OTT-ness she relates to Americans (not fair to any nationality IMO, but everyone gets generalized). Does/did Katie H have a problem with Cami, Michelle, Jeremy, Alex, or Callum? I enjoy many Brit shows and many American shows, some are my sense of humor and some are not. We are all very diverse and to generalize about a generalization is wrong as well.......... Irony.

:thumbs:

[ebandit]

says bigoted bully Hopkins.......she slags all americans yet again and michelle says fark all........the land with no humour has given us the vast majority of best comedy shows and movies and comedians ever....bully Hopkins chatted more vile bigoted bully sh*t yet again...bitter twat

i'm sure that the majority of americans will have enough humour in them

to laugh it off..........................and not take every comment as seriously

Mark L

[Kazanne]

Listen... I love the Americans, like all nationalities we all have different characteristics both in looks and behaviour. In my job I deal with ALL nationalities, some don't say please or thank you...some never smile, some are more demanding than others...some are more laid back than others...its a cultural thing. Americans do not get our sense of humour and equally we don't get theirs.... It's not being disrespectful..it's being honest.

It's well known they don't get our humour,it's just jumped on because KH said it and it's fine apparently for Perez to diss the Brits all the time,and tell us to "suck his dick"

[Niamh.]

It's well known they don't get our humour,it's just jumped on because KH said it and it's fine apparently for Perez to diss the Brits all the time,and tell us to "suck his dick"

What exactly don't Americans "get" about British humour? It's a stereotype and an untrue one imo

[poppsywoppsy]

There are very few American programmes which emulate our sense of humour, I think the Golden Girls and Frazier were the most popular and they were huge both sides of the Atlantic.

The American humour is prevalent in the Simpsons and Friends.

Some can cross the divide, mostly they don't.

[Kazanne]

What exactly don't Americans "get" about British humour? It's a stereotype and an untrue one imo

I am not saying ALL Americans,but they sometimes don't get some of our words so the 'joke' doesn't come across the same,sometimes a word here can be offensive to them and vise versa.I love Americans but a lot of their humour is different to ours.

[Niamh.]

I am not saying ALL Americans,but they sometimes don't get some of our words so the 'joke' doesn't come across the same,sometimes a word here can be offensive to them and vise versa.I love Americans but a lot of their humour is different to ours.

The most common thing I hear people say is that Americans don't understand Irony or sarcasm(and what I've also heard KH say too), now that is completely untrue and quite insulting, don't you think?

[Ellen]

I am not saying ALL Americans,but they sometimes don't get some of our words so the 'joke' doesn't come across the same,sometimes a word here can be offensive to them and vise versa.I love Americans but a lot of their humour is different to ours.

I saw Rich Hall (american comedian) he said the same thing, that Americans struggle with the British wit,sarcasm,irony etc but living here for a few years he got used to it and loved the British Sense of Humour.

[poppsywoppsy]

The most common thing I hear people say is that Americans don't understand Irony or sarcasm(and what I've also heard KH say too), now that is completely untrue and quite insulting, don't you think?

No, not insulting, look how many of our top comedians have not made it in the USA.

It is just culturally difference, many Americans have a strong sense of Patriotism, Religion and manners.

It is almost the same as UK comedians make jokes about, it just doesn't travel.

There are a few who cross the divide like Joan Rivers, but not many.

[Kyle]

The most common thing I hear people say is that Americans don't understand Irony or sarcasm(and what I've also heard KH say too), now that is completely untrue and quite insulting, don't you think?

It's probably more insulting the stereotype that British people all have bad teeth but it happens. I'm not going to get offended over it.

[wendywillow]

It's probably more insulting the stereotype that British people all have bad teeth but it happens. I'm not going to get offended over it.

yeah when KH does it shes trying to appeal to the sheltered people that actually believe the stereotypes....(if you travel overseas you know most people are actually pretty clued in)

[Niamh.]

yeah when KH does it shes trying to appeal to the sheltered people that actually believe the stereotypes....(if you travel overseas you know most people are actually pretty clued in)

:love:

[-Sue-]

I can't say all Americans don't understand humour or irony that's like saying all brit's like tea! (I hate tea)

Some do some don't :D But that is people in general. I could never tar a whole country with that just because a handful of American's I may have met 'didn't quite get it' :D

[Kazanne]

The most common thing I hear people say is that Americans don't understand Irony or sarcasm(and what I've also heard KH say too), now that is completely untrue and quite insulting, don't you think?

No it's not always untrue,it's the same as they brand us as reserved , have you been to a US cinema ? I tell you they are quite loud and verbal compared to ours , we are very similar to them and also quite different.I lived there for a year and believe you did too,did you really see no differences in the cultures?

[Kazanne]

yeah when KH does it shes trying to appeal to the sheltered people that actually believe the stereotypes....(if you travel overseas you know most people are actually pretty clued in)

I am not sheltered thankyou very much, I lived there,I know there is a difference,but hey ho anything to cling to eh?

[Mokka]

I think your all missing the main issue here...
American's don't get iron?

The is a disaster of epic proportions ready to devastate a nation. I am going to write my Premiere now and demand Canada send all its supplemental iron to those needy Americans.

What will you do?

[Niamh.]

No it's not always untrue,it's the same as they brand us as reserved , have you been to a US cinema ? I tell you they are quite loud and verbal compared to ours , we are very similar to them and also quite different.I lived there for a year and believe you did too,did you really see no differences in the cultures?

Of course i saw cultural differences Kazanne, i never said I didn't see cultural differences, what i said was that I think it's unfair to say Americans don't understand irony or sarcasm like Katie Hopkins says, this is the "humour" she refers to

[bots]

Humour is even very different between Scottish and English people. Different cultures = different humour

[Kizzy]

No... it's like rain on your wedding day, a free ride when you're already there.

Who would have thought? It figures.

[wendywillow]

I am not sheltered thankyou very much, I lived there,I know there is a difference,but hey ho anything to cling to eh?

a difference, yes, but to say yanks don't get irony/sarcasm is an old stereotype that's not true at all, but it also depends where you were, the circumstances..etc

[Niamh.]

No... it's like rain on your wedding day, a free ride when you're already there.

Who would have thought? It figures.

Alanis is Canadian :idc:

[Vanessa]

Think Katie is a sinking ship and the last of the rats are jumping off.

:joker:

[wendywillow]

No... it's like rain on your wedding day, a free ride when you're already there.

Who would have thought? It figures.

shes Canadian but we'll take it :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Alanis is Canadian :idc:

Don't they understand irony either? :worry:

[Mokka]

Don't they understand irony either? :worry:

No we don't :idc:

[Niamh.]

Don't they understand irony either? :worry:

Just Alanis I think :pipe:

[wendywillow]

No we don't :idc:

:joker:

[Kyle]

yeah when KH does it shes trying to appeal to the sheltered people that actually believe the stereotypes....(if you travel overseas you know most people are actually pretty clued in)

I don't really care what she has to say to be honest I think she's a pathetic individual. But if you are going to get offended about this you might wanna ring up the producers of family guy and tell them to stop making british people have wonky teeth and speak like cockneys cos it's a 'stereotype'.

[DemolitionRed]

What a desperate chump that Michelle must be to sit by and allow Hopkins to speak disrespectfully about her nation. Hopkins should be the next one voted out the CBB house to the biggest Boooooo's in BB history.

The Sun must be very desperate to pay her to insult their clients on a daily basis.

Michelles an interesting one isn't she. Initially I wanted her to win. She's got this incredibly hard looking face when she's got her make-up on and she makes out that she says it like it is. I really thought she was going to be quite a formidable character. I now see her as the weakest and most apathetic person in the house. She's Katie Hopkins glove puppet who occasionally rises to remarks she can use for her own gain within the gay community. She's the true definition of arse licker.

[Niamh.]

Michelles an interesting one isn't she. Initially I wanted her to win. She's got this incredibly hard looking face when she's got her make-up on and she makes out that she says it like it is. I really thought she was going to be quite a formidable character. I now see her as the weakest and most apathetic person in the house. She's Katie Hopkins glove puppet who occasionally rises to remarks she can use for her own gain within the gay community. She's the true definition of ares licker.

Yeah, she's by far the one I was most disappointed in. I really liked the idea of her and wanted to like her

[DemolitionRed]

What exactly don't Americans "get" about British humour? It's a stereotype and an untrue one imo

I agree. My best friend is from Baltimore and when we get together we do a lot of laughing. Perhaps it depends where you are from in America?

[wendywillow]

Yeah, she's by far the one I was most disappointed in. I really liked the idea of her and wanted to like her

ditto. I don't feel like I know her any better after all this time

[wendywillow]

I don't really care what she has to say to be honest I think she's a pathetic individual. But if you are going to get offended about this you might wanna ring up the producers of family guy and tell them to stop making british people have wonky teeth and speak like cockneys cos it's a 'stereotype'.

lol, that one goes way back too.

[power2thepeople]

It was interesting reading some site threads from American viewers after her Fat documentary aired on a US channel a few weeks back. Gotta say there was plenty of humour posted about her and it translated well to me.
:joker:

[abhorson]

Humour is even very different between Scottish and English people. Different cultures = different humour

Still game, Rab C Nesbit loved by all. Equally Fawlty Towers, Rising Damp, Only Fools, Open all Hours.

Tosh. UK humour is understood by all. Just not the new crap.

[the truth]

I don't really care what she has to say to be honest I think she's a pathetic individual. But if you are going to get offended about this you might wanna ring up the producers of family guy and tell them to stop making british people have wonky teeth and speak like cockneys cos it's a 'stereotype'.

the difference that's comedy, Katie Hopkins actually means it and takes her bigotry seriously....

ps the yanks who don't get irony and humour play stewie the worlds most evil English baby played by yes an American? same with the incredible simpsons show , brilliant series ran forever, yes you guessed it American too....wait theres more....cheers friends...the marx brothers..Seinfeld...happy days...Kramer....larry sanders show....curb your enthusiasm....etc etc before you even get to the endless classic American comedies ......tina fey...jack lemmon .carol burnett....buster Keaton..gene wilder..woody allen.....steve martin..joan rivers..will Ferrell....walter Matthau....robin Williams...Richard pryor..albert brooks..ellen DeGeneres..dennis leary...chris rock..amy poehler...Louis ck....jim carrey...garry shandling.....ben stiller...betty white..Sandra Bernhard....leslie nielson...vince Vaughan.roseanne barr.....steve carrel....oliver hardy...john belushi...larry david...steven wright...Christopher guest...bill hicks...fred Willard...mel brooks....bil murray ...billy crystal...owen Wilson...wanda sykes...jerry lewis..conan Obrien...bill cosby.....eddie murphy..abbot and Costello..Harold Lloyd..andy kaufman...adam sandler...ted damson...lenny bruce...jon stewart etc etc etc ...............the list is infinite and makes bully Hopkins looks like an infinitely idiotic bigot

[abhorson]

the difference that's comedy, Katie Hopkins actually means it and takes her bigotry seriously....ps the yanks who don't get irony and humour play stewie the worlds most evil English baby played by yes an American? same with the incredible simpsons show , brilliant series ran forever, yes you guessed it American too....wait theres more....cheers friends...the marx brothers..tina fey...jack lemmon .carol burnett....buster Keaton..gene wilder..woody allen.....steve martin..joan rivers..will Ferrell....walter Matthau....robin Williams...Richard pryor..albert brooks..ellen DeGeneres..dennis leary...chris rock..amy poehler...jim carrey...garry shandling.....ben stiller...betty white...leslie nielson...vince Vaughan.roseanne barr.....steve carrel....oliver hardy...john belushi...larry david...steven wright...Christopher guest...bill hicks...fred Willard...mel brooks....bil murray ...billy crystal...owen Wilson...jerry lewis..conan Obrien...bill cosby.....eddie murphy..abbot and Costello..Harold Lloyd..andy kaufman...adam sandler...ted damson...lenny bruce...jon stewart etc etc etc ...............the list is infinite and makes bully Hopkins looks like an infinitely idiotic bigot

Bill Cosby:laugh:

Know wonder you like him!

[the truth]

Bill Cosby:laugh:

Know wonder you like him!

know wonder? that means nothing...I presume you were trying to imply I like rapists? right? how sick are you?

[abhorson]

know wonder? that means nothing...I presume you were trying to imply I like rapists? right? how sick are you?

Is he a rapist. What a wrong and slanderous thing to say.

[bots]

the difference that's comedy, Katie Hopkins actually means it and takes her bigotry seriously....

ps the yanks who don't get irony and humour play stewie the worlds most evil English baby played by yes an American? same with the incredible simpsons show , brilliant series ran forever, yes you guessed it American too....wait theres more....cheers friends...the marx brothers..Seinfeld...happy days...Kramer....larry sanders show....curb your enthusiasm....etc etc before you even get to the endless classic American comedies ......tina fey...jack lemmon .carol burnett....buster Keaton..gene wilder..woody allen.....steve martin..joan rivers..will Ferrell....walter Matthau....robin Williams...Richard pryor..albert brooks..ellen DeGeneres..dennis leary...chris rock..amy poehler...Louis ck....jim carrey...garry shandling.....ben stiller...betty white..Sandra Bernhard....leslie nielson...vince Vaughan.roseanne barr.....steve carrel....oliver hardy...john belushi...larry david...steven wright...Christopher guest...bill hicks...fred Willard...mel brooks....bil murray ...billy crystal...owen Wilson...wanda sykes...jerry lewis..conan Obrien...bill cosby.....eddie murphy..abbot and Costello..Harold Lloyd..andy kaufman...adam sandler...ted damson...lenny bruce...jon stewart etc etc etc ...............the list is infinite and makes bully Hopkins looks like an infinitely idiotic bigot

yes, but has the USA ever produced any decent comic actors? :smug:

[abhorson]

yes, but has the USA ever produced any decent comic actors? :smug:

Perez.

[lostalex]

And were nearly wiped out by Americans!
umm, no... they were nearly wiped out by European colonists, mostly BRITS.

[abhorson]

umm, no... they were nearly wiped out by European colonists, mostly BRITS.

Wrong. Europeans arrived hundreds of years before and became Americans. With American Independence in 1776.

The mass slaughter and land grab was mainly in the nineteenth century and committed by Americans.

[lostalex]

Wrong. Europeans arrived hundreds of years before and became Americans. With American Independence in 1776.

The mass slaughter and land grab was mainly in the nineteenth century and committed by Americans.

wrong. Americans were the ones being slaughtered, Europeans were the ones doing the slaughtering.

[abhorson]

wrong. Americans were the ones being slaughtered, Europeans were the ones doing the slaughtering.


So by your logic. Americans today are not Americans.:laugh:

[lostalex]

So by your logic. Americans today are not Americans.:laugh:

are brits still romans? or germans or french or all the places they originally came from?

obviously it's different now. america wasn't america yet during that slaughter, look at a map of that time, most of america was unexplored, so it wasn't America the country it is today. just like most of the countries of euro have changed their borders and governments in the past 250 years.

[abhorson]

are brits still romans? or germans or french or all the places they originally came from?

Or all from African descent! Pedantry can be never ending!

1776 all became Americans.

[lostalex]

Or all from African descent! Pedantry can be never ending!

1776 all became Americans.

America didn't have 50 states in 1776.

[abhorson]

are brits still romans? or germans or french or all the places they originally came from?

obviously it's different now. america wasn't america yet during that slaughter, look at a map of that time, most of america was unexplored, so it wasn't America the country it is today. just like most of the countries of euro have changed their borders and governments in the past 250 years.

What? the mass slaughter was in the nineteenth century. When was Independence. And it was called it even before 1776.

You are wrong.

[lostalex]

What? the mass slaughter was in the nineteenth century. When was Independence.

You are wrong. no i'm not, i said the last 250 years, and before that it definitely wasn't america, so what are you talking about?

[abhorson]

no i'm not, i said the last 250 years, and before that it definitely wasn't america, so what are you talking about?

And still not listening. The mass slaughter was in the nineteenth century when it was called - Guess what? America or USA if you prefer.

[lostalex]

And still not listening. The mass slaughter was in the nineteenth century when it was called - Guess what? America or USA if you prefer.

you're not listening, where a lot of that slaughter took place was not america yet. it was the wild west, unexplored territory being explored by european settlers. vast areas of what is now America was Spanish at the time.

[abhorson]

America didn't have 50 states in 1776.

What does that have to do with the price of eggs?

[lostalex]

What does that have to do with the price of eggs?

because you can't blame america for what happened on land that wasn't American at the time.

[abhorson]

you're not listening, where a lot of that slaughter took place was not america yet. it was the wild west, unexplored territory being explored by european settlers. vast areas of what is now America was Spanish at the time.

Of course it was America. And new arrivals had to declare allegiance and became Americans.

[abhorson]

you're not listening, where a lot of that slaughter took place was not america yet. it was the wild west, unexplored territory being explored by european settlers. vast areas of what is now America was Spanish at the time.

Gees. That is South America now and the Conquistadors. New goal posts.