Calums Letter From, His Mum

[muchadoaboutnothing]

It was a beautiful letter from a mother to her very precious son - it summed up how proud she was (is) of him. I was very touched by the words and senitments. I think KH said that it was from a poem writting by Kipling. Does any know the name of the poem and if the writer really was Kipling?

[downthechippie]

Yes. The poem is called 'IF' by Rudyard Kipling. Wonderful poem.

[Stevep]

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

[joeysteele]

Really nice moment that letter being read out in the highlights tonight.

[The Penguin]

I seen a documentary on George Best. His wife, Calum's mum, was former playboy bunny. It was obvious after the 1st line that those weren't her words.

[Withano]

If I had a letter from home for the first time in a month and it was some random ass poem, I'd flip ****

[camertone]

his mom should have written an actual letter to her son as she was supposed to, instead of stealing someone else's words. it doesn't really seem personal, heartwarming, or creative.

[jennyjuniper]

Yes. The poem is called 'IF' by Rudyard Kipling. Wonderful poem.

It is and it's one of my favourites. Last year on holiday in Britain I managed to get all of Kiplings verses.

[Rob4]

Brilliant poem, but not very personal, seemed to get to KH more than it did to Calum.

[Josy]

I'm genuinely curious because I was a bit distracted last night but was there any message with Calum's letter or just the poem?

[bots]

it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

his mom should have written an actual letter to her son as she was supposed to, instead of stealing someone else's words. it doesn't really seem personal, heartwarming, or creative.


Well said. The letter was a load of ****.

The 'point' of a letter from home is to tell the person receiving it how his family are doing. Is George the goldfish being fed regularly? ETC.:joker:

It's not an opportunity to try and be clever. It's just boring.:sleep::sleep:

[Josy]

it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him :laugh:

See I was thinking if there was no message at all apart from the poem then maybe there was a message in there somewhere that Callum could work out for himself.

[Gusto Brunt]

I actually felt embarrassed for Calum. I then muted the 'poem' half way through.

[DemolitionRed]

If I had a letter from home for the first time in a month and it was some random ass poem, I'd flip ****

Its the meaning behind those words and I have to say, Michell read out that poem with such emotion...it was quite special.

[Gusto Brunt]

Its the meaning behind those words and I have to say, Michell read out that poem with such emotion...it was quite special.

It just seemed to go on, and on, and on, and to be out of context. Calum's in the CBB - not on the battlefield. :joker::joker::joker:

[DemolitionRed]

it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him :laugh:

Not to his face though. He couldn't wait to run off to his little gang and tell them!!

[DemolitionRed]

It just seemed to go on, and on, and on, and to be out of context. Calum's in the CBB - not on the battlefield. :joker::joker::joker:

Actually your right. For Xmas this year I was given my great, great grandfathers war hero medal along with a poem he had written to his wife just before he was killed on the Somme. I balled my eyes out when I read it because they were the last words to his family.

Perhaps it was a little OTT to write something so deep for such a show and I do think Callum was embarrassed.

[Caballo]

It was all a bit Mike Bassett.

[ebandit]

Its the meaning behind those words and I have to say, Michell read out that poem with such emotion...it was quite special.

michelle surprised me.......................great! to listen to her read

i agree shame! to have opportunity to write a personal letter then just

copy/paste a poem however wonderful it was

as usual pez can't resist poking..................

Mark L

[Niamh.]

If I had a letter from home for the first time in a month and it was some random ass poem, I'd flip ****

I was thinking that too :laugh:

[Kazanne]

I thought it was nice,she had obviously chosen it and read it and they were her sentiments,seems people always need to complain and moan about something.

[Niamh.]

I thought it was nice,she had obviously chosen it and read it and they were her sentiments,seems people always need to complain and moan about something.

I'd rather hear about my family, how everyone is, what's going on at home etc :shrug:

[waterhog]

i am not biased - but his mum shpould have emailed me i would have done it for free

[Northern Monkey]

I'd rather hear about my family, how everyone is, what's going on at home etc :shrug:

This.If i was Calum i would've been annoyed by that.

[poppsywoppsy]

Having read Calums Mums Sunday Paper articles over the years, the poem was perhaps her best way to go.

[Ellen]

I thought it was nice,she had obviously chosen it and read it and they were her sentiments,seems people always need to complain and moan about something.

This :thumbs:
I thought it was lovely.
We dont know Calum's homelife, it may be just him & his mum with no close rellies. :shrug:
Calum knows his mother better than any one and would have known exactly what she was saying to him with that poem.

[Niamh.]

This :thumbs:
I thought it was lovely.
We dont know Calum's homelife, it may be just him & his mum with no close rellies. :shrug:
Calum knows his mother better than any one and would have known exactly what she was saying to him with that poem.

I have nothing to say so heres a poem :laugh:

[poppsywoppsy]

Perhaps, she didn't have the words, I suspect she didn't, but she got her point across.

[Jules2]

it was a bit odd. When it was read out, he was told to study it and read it very slowly.

But when Perez said there was a message within it, calum bad mouthed him :laugh:

Omgoodness he didnt bad mouth him and the message,,,,,,, Perez was telling him that it was in code....trying to stir trouble. Well done Calum for not biting.

[Jules2]

I have nothing to say so heres a poem :laugh:

The poem said it all, it was beautiful, well done Calums mum. A bit of culture for us to listen to and to appreciate. It certainly brought the tears to Michelle and KHs eyes.

[Ellen]

Omgoodness he didnt bad mouth him and the message,,,,,,, Perez was telling him that it was in code....trying to stir trouble. Well done Calum for not biting.

:thumbs:

[Gusto Brunt]

Having read Calums Mums Sunday Paper articles over the years, the poem was perhaps her best way to go.

Ha ha, she writes articles???:nono::joker::joker:

[bots]

Omgoodness he didnt bad mouth him and the message,,,,,,, Perez was telling him that it was in code....trying to stir trouble. Well done Calum for not biting.

Yes he did, he went to his gang and said how perez had indicated that the letter contained a hidden message and that he didnt miss an opportunity to poke at KH. The fact is the letter said that Calum should read it very carefully and very slowly. If that doesn't indicate it has a meaning to him in the house, i don't know what does

[jennyjuniper]

I'm genuinely curious because I was a bit distracted last night but was there any message with Calum's letter or just the poem?

Well according to that fruit loop Perez, there were several 'hidden' messages.
Has no one from the asylum noticed that Perez is missing yet?

[Vanessa]

I think Perez may have been right. Maybe she was warning him about Cami and KH ?

[MTVN]

The imposters bit was just one line of that pretty famous and general poem though, you could probably take bits out of it and interpret them any way you wanted to lol

[Vanessa]

The imposters bit was just one line of that pretty famous and general poem though, you could probably take bits out of it and interpret them any way you wanted to lol

Probably, who knows? :laugh:

[poppsywoppsy]

Ha ha, she writes articles???:nono::joker::joker:

Look I was being kind, or have you missed the English irony:cheer2:

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I think Perez may have been right. Maybe she was warning him about Cami and KH ?

Now there is a possibility! A beautiful poem but hardly warranted as a personal letter from home - a poem that is more in keeping with this years 70th anniversary of the ending of WW11. Maybe Perez does have a point and I would certainly not underestimate his intelligence.

[Kazanne]

No need to warn him about Katie and cami they both like him,there was no subliminal message but if there was it would be to warn him about Perez,I mean just look at him tonight.

[Daniel-X]

The poem was pretentious I would have been fuming if that was my letter from home. Cami's letter was much more heart warming

[SaveUs]

Perhaps, she didn't have the words, I suspect she didn't, but she got her point across.

Yes and perhaps it's worth considering as well Calum does not like to be open about his personal life, in his own words he is a closed book perhaps she was just being mindful of that. I liked the sentiment.

I also liked the way KH got a bit emotional, it was nice to see her human side.

[Gusto Brunt]

Look I was being kind, or have you missed the English irony:cheer2:

Calum's mum probably 'writes' newspaper articles the same way Katie Price 'writes' her books.

They're ghost written for them. :joker::joker::shocked:

[Mick McMick]

:facepalm: at this thread.

It was a lovely poem.
Not sure why it has to be turned into fodder for ridicule.

Wrong audience I suppose.

[Gusto Brunt]

:facepalm: at this thread.

It was a lovely poem.
Not sure why it has to be turned into fodder for ridicule.

Wrong audience I suppose.

It probably is a lovely poem. But this was supposed to be a letter from home.

Not a chance to copy and paste someone else's work. :nono:

[Mick McMick]

It probably is a lovely poem. But this was supposed to be a letter from home.

Not a chance to copy and paste someone else's work. :nono:


There was a message in addition to the poem.
And sometimes someone else's word can express
your feelings better than your own.

jeez, of all the things to complain about...

[albie]

TRust Hopkins to spoil the moment by telling Calum it was written by Mr Kipling; and I thought he only made cakes!

[the truth]

I have nothing to say so heres a poem :laugh:

lol exactly.....his mum said nothing she just copied kiplings poem IF word for word and said nothing herself....shows what a bore callum is