Is there something wrong with her?

[Josy]

Basically what the title asks but other than the epilepsy and the nastiness..

She seems like she has some sort of tic or similar, she pulls the weirdest faces and nods her head erratically during conversations that don't even involve her.

Then there's the complete unnecessary rolls of the entire head just to roll her eyes at something.

Very odd.

[jaxie]

I am convinced she is a sociopath.

[Niamh.]

I reckon it's because she's playing a character and they're not natural body movements but ones she puts on for the role she plays

[Kazanne]

Basically what the title asks but other than the epilepsy and the nastiness..

She seems like she has some sort of tic or similar, she pulls the weirdest faces and nods her head erratically during conversations that don't even involve her.

Then there's the complete unnecessary rolls of the entire head just to roll her eyes at something.

Very odd.

Is this a baiting thread:joker:

[Josy]

Is this a baiting thread:joker:

:conf: What?

It's a genuine question? people do suffer from types of tics you know.

[Niamh.]

Is this a baiting thread:joker:

how is it baiting if it's about a HM? :conf2:

[DemolitionRed]

I am convinced she is a sociopath.

Me too which would explain the odd facial expressions. She's not sure how or when she should be expressing emotion.

[Kazanne]

:conf: What?

It's a genuine question? people do suffer from types of tics you know.

I'm joking Josy,hence the jester :shrug:

[Josy]

Oh.

Well it isn't funny accusing some of baiting.

[Kazanne]

Oh.

Well it isn't funny accusing some of baiting.

Ok,in that case I'll go sit on the naughty step :bawling:

[Tip]

I don't think it's because there is anything wrong with her.

She only does it in certain circumstances and I think it's because she thinks the camera might be on her. She is not a good actor in terms of body language so it comes out all a bit odd. Like her excessive hand signals in the diary room.

I think she gurns to express emotion in situations either where she is forcing it or not able to express naturally. There's quite a lot that is socially awkward about her, but I don't think that's anything wrong.

[jaxie]

Me too which would explain the odd facial expressions. She's not sure how or when she should be expressing emotion.
And the incredibly strange sinister smile.

[Tarryn]

I said this in the first week of BB.
I really think the woman has problems.
I would not like to be in that house with her.
How could any of the HM's like her :shrug:

[Jack The Cat]

I believe she has a mild form of Aspergers. So to answer the OP yes I would say she does have something wrong.

[jaxie]

I said this in the first week of BB.
I really think the woman has problems.
I would not like to be in that house with her.
How could any of the HM's like her :shrug:
How can the public like her enough to make her a potential winner?:shrug:

[jaxie]

I believe she has a mild form of Aspergers. So to answer the OP yes I would say she does have something wrong.
I don't think she is asbergers, I've worked with asbergers children in the past and she is not coming across to me that way. But it can be a very varied condition and asbergers can also be quite emotionally detached.

[Tarryn]

How can the public like her enough to make her a potential winner?:shrug:

I think it's the Anti-anything brigade.
If you tell them not to push a button they would still push it.
Katie H being so hated makes people support her for that reason.
I have found Katie quite boring more than anything :sleep:

[Jack The Cat]

I don't think she is asbergers, I've worked with asbergers children in the past and she is not coming across to me that way.

The spectrum is very large, it is a very mild form she has. Barely perceptible.

[tormented mind]

Probably the weight of her nose causing her head to tilt at weird angles.

[jaxie]

The spectrum is very large, it is a very mild form she has. Barely perceptible. I added to my post that it is very varied yes. Do you know this as a diagnosis or is it a theory?

[Jack The Cat]

I think it's the Anti-anything brigade.
If you tell them not to push a button they would still push it.
Katie H being so hated makes people support her for that reason.
I have found Katie quite boring more than anything :sleep:

That is certainly a factor for me. I didn't have a strong opinion of her, until people started to say if you like her you must be a bad person as well. That really wound me up, the arrogance was shocking.

[Tarryn]

There are plenty of people with mental disorders but they are not nasty & vile to other people.
It's still no excuse for hurting others.
Katie knows what she is doing.

[KatieHopkinsNose]

There are plenty of people with mental disorders but they are not nasty & vile to other people.
It's still no excuse for hurting others.
Katie knows what she is doing.

:clap1:

Her "disease" is that she's just as ugly on the inside as on the outside.

[Josy]

The spectrum is very large, it is a very mild form she has. Barely perceptible.

Is this just your opinion or has she actually told people she has been diagnosed with that?

[Jack The Cat]

I added to my post that it is very varied yes. Do you know this as a diagnosis or is it a theory?

Without speaking directly with her under certain conditions it would only be a guess. Even then as it is so mild it would be very hard to diagnose, where does a person's personality start and a medical condition end?

[Tarryn]

That is certainly a factor for me. I didn't have a strong opinion of her, until people started to say if you like her you must be a bad person as well. That really wound me up, the arrogance was shocking.

I don't think anyone is a bad person for liking Katie H.
Each to their own.
I find Calum an arrogant twat but my sister is in love with him :crazy:
It's a strange world...........

[jaxie]

That is certainly a factor for me. I didn't have a strong opinion of her, until people started to say if you like her you must be a bad person as well. That really wound me up, the arrogance was shocking.

I don't think you are a bad person Jack! I am just bewildered about why people like her because she does not come across as likeable to me. Re asbergers if it is a confirmed diagnosis then it would explain her emotional detachment some of her oddness and the relentlessness when she picks a bone with someone like going after Keith. It doesn't excuse it IMO but it would explain it. But for me she screams sociopath rather than asbergers.

[Jack The Cat]

Is this just your opinion or has she actually told people she has been diagnosed with that?

Opinion, with a little insight behind it. As she can function at a very high level, unless she went seeking a diagnosis it is not obvious enough.

[Jack The Cat]

I don't think anyone is a bad person for liking Katie H.
Each to their own.
I find Calum an arrogant twat but my sister is in love with him :crazy:
It's a strange world...........


It is a mad, mad world indeed.

[jaxie]

Opinion, with a little insight behind it. As she can function at a very high level, unless she went seeking a diagnosis it is not obvious enough. I can't help feel it would have picked up by now. Her behaviour is strange and there is an odd emotional detachment about her that is quite creepy yet she seems to have a powerful hold over her gang in there.

[Jack The Cat]

I don't think you are a bad person Jack! I am just bewildered about why people like her because she does not come across as likeable to me. Re asbergers if it is a confirmed diagnosis then it would explain her emotional detachment some of her oddness and the relentlessness when she picks a bone with someone like going after Keith. It doesn't excuse it IMO but it would explain it. But for me she screams sociopath rather than asbergers.

You make a good point, the lack of empathy you find with Asperger's is also a major factor when diagnosing a person with "Sociopathic" tendances. I don't view a sociopath as an absolute negative, the meaning has been twisted by Hollywood to a degree.

[Tarryn]

I can't help feel it would have picked up by now. Her behaviour is strange and there is an odd emotional detachment about her that is quite creepy yet she seems to have a powerful hold over her gang in there.

I think she is just a horrible person. Hence the emotional detachment.
As for her gang. I think they are all aware of what kind of person she is but chose to stick with her in order not to be targeted & stay in longer.
It worked well.

[Cherie]

I believe she has a mild form of Aspergers. So to answer the OP yes I would say she does have something wrong.

Have you a link for this? Oh sorry just seen it is your opinion

[Jack The Cat]

I can't help feel it would have picked up by now. Her behaviour is strange and there is an odd emotional detachment about her that is quite creepy yet she seems to have a powerful hold over her gang in there.

You will find throughout history that the most charismatic leaders often have "Sociopathic" characteristics.

[smudgie]

I thnk she is just driven by greed.
She has no real talent, therefore it is easier to just 'act out' her hate.
She is clever enough to know that controversy sells, just not clever enough to realise you reap what you sow, one day Karma will come and bite her on the backside.
The only thng mssing from her brain is a conscience, she cares not who she hurts or damages by her articles. The media that employ her or give her a platform to spew her bile are just as guilty.

[Jack The Cat]

Have you a link for this?

Not a single link I'm afraid, the information with regards to a lack of empathy has been well researched and published.

[jaxie]

Without speaking directly with her under certain conditions it would only be a guess. Even then as it is so mild it would be very hard to diagnose, where does a person's personality start and a medical condition end?

Weirdly one of the children I once worked with was called Jack. He was incredibly bright, I liked him a lot inspite of a tendancy to be a little violent in anger.

[Jack The Cat]

I think she is just a horrible person. Hence the emotional detachment.
As for her gang. I think they are all aware of what kind of person she is but chose to stick with her in order not to be targeted & stay in longer.
It worked well.

I see what you mean but does her emotional detachment make her a horrible person. Or does her being a horrible person make her emotionally detached. I guess is it a cause or effect?

[Tip]

I think it's worrying to narrow what is "normal" in human behaviour and responses and treat too much outside of that as a "disorder".

Where things affect ones ability to cope or deal with life effectively, then indeed diagnoses can be more than just useful.

It is also argued that we need humans with a different mix or degree of different traits and as long as they aren't dysfunctional then we shouldn't be too concerned about saying something is "wrong".

In certain circumstances it could be seen as highly desirable to have a less empathetic or more sociopathic leaning for survival.

[Tarryn]

I see what you mean but does her emotional detachment make her a horrible person. Or does her being a horrible person make her emotionally detached. I guess is it a cause or effect?

It's a fine line. Either way I would not want to live with her :crazy:

[Tarryn]

When you think about it, IF there really is something wrong with Katie H & she has little or no control over her actions, the likes of Michelle, Kav, Cami & Calum should be even more ashamed of themselves for backing her up.
She has an excuse for her behaviour they don't.

[Jack The Cat]

I think it's worrying to narrow what is "normal" in human behaviour and responses and treat too much outside of that as a "disorder".

Where things affect ones ability to cope or deal with life effectively, then indeed diagnoses can be more than just useful.

It is also argued that we need humans with a different mix or degree of different traits and as long as they aren't dysfunctional then we shouldn't be too concerned about saying something is "wrong".

In certain circumstances it could be seen as highly desirable to have a less empathetic or more sociopathic leaning for survival.

Very well put and I totally agree, Katie in a real survival situation would be a better companion that most other people. Certainty in a genuine war situation she would make a good leader. I also would guess that she would make sacrifices without emotional regret as all the best leaders are prepared to do.

[Jack The Cat]

It's a fine line. Either way I would not want to live with her :crazy:

Nor me, but I would trust her completely if I had to follow her in battle.

[Niamh.]

I see what you mean but does her emotional detachment make her a horrible person. Or does her being a horrible person make her emotionally detached. I guess is it a cause or effect?

I would go with this. I don't think you could be a horrible person unless you were emotionally detached

[arista]

Basically what the title asks but other than the epilepsy and the nastiness..

She seems like she has some sort of tic or similar, she pulls the weirdest faces and nods her head erratically during conversations that don't even involve her.

Then there's the complete unnecessary rolls of the entire head just to roll her eyes at something.

Very odd.


Her Husband left her

Showing life to be unfair

[Jack The Cat]

I would go with this. I don't think you could be a horrible person unless you were emotionally detached

Empathy does seem to be the key factor, with emotional intelligence.

[Tarryn]

I would go with this. I don't think you could be a horrible person unless you were emotionally detached

She feels an immense amount of compassion.................for herself.
Hence her "Tears" last night :shrug:

[Niamh.]

Empathy does seem to be the key factor, with emotional intelligence.

definitely, me personally I don't think I could go up to someone who's not done anything at all to me and tell them they're stupid or that they were a cruel parent. I would feel way too bad to do that, even if I was gaining something from it, I just wouldn't have the heart for it

[DemolitionRed]

That is certainly a factor for me. I didn't have a strong opinion of her, until people started to say if you like her you must be a bad person as well. That really wound me up, the arrogance was shocking.

That's why I don't think she has a mild form of aspies. Aspies tend to deflect people rather than draw them in. They tend to be a little or a lot eccentric which is more likely to deter friendships than encourage it. Aspies don't have superficial charm and although they do offend people, its not deliberate and they tend not to be aware that they have offended. Katie Hopkins is very aware when she's offending. Its deliberate and its calculated.

Katie Hopkins tends to look for weakness in a person and use that weakness for her own gain. That isn't something an aspies would do. Her blunt emotional reactions could be that of an aspie but that's as far as it goes and we must keep in mind that blunt emotional reactions are something we commonly see in sociopaths. The pursing of the lips and the twisting and contorting of the mouth in peculiar ways is something that is seen in sociopaths a lot.

[DemolitionRed]

Very well put and I totally agree, Katie in a real survival situation would be a better companion that most other people. Certainty in a genuine war situation she would make a good leader. I also would guess that she would make sacrifices without emotional regret as all the best leaders are prepared to do.

Yep, absolutely this. We need sociopaths in our world but we just need them in the right places.

[Jack The Cat]

That's why I don't think she has a mild form of aspies. Aspies tend to deflect people rather than draw them in. They tend to be a little or a lot eccentric which is more likely to deter friendships than encourage it. Aspies don't have superficial charm and although they do offend people, its not deliberate and they tend not to be aware that they have offended. Katie Hopkins is very aware when she's offending. Its deliberate and its calculated.

Katie Hopkins tends to look for weakness in a person and use that weakness for her own gain. That isn't something an aspies would do. Her blunt emotional reactions could be that of an aspie but that's as far as it goes and we must keep in mind that blunt emotional reactions are something we commonly see in sociopaths. The pursing of the lips and the twisting and contorting of the mouth in peculiar ways is something that is seen in sociopaths a lot.

I agree she certainly has sociopathic characteristics.

[Niamh.]

That's why I don't think she has a mild form of aspies. Aspies tend to deflect people rather than draw them in. They tend to be a little or a lot eccentric which is more likely to deter friendships than encourage it. Aspies don't have superficial charm and although they do offend people, its not deliberate and they tend not to be aware that they have offended. Katie Hopkins is very aware when she's offending. Its deliberate and its calculated.

Katie Hopkins tends to look for weakness in a person and use that weakness for her own gain. That isn't something an aspies would do. Her blunt emotional reactions could be that of an aspie but that's as far as it goes and we must keep in mind that blunt emotional reactions are something we commonly see in sociopaths. The pursing of the lips and the twisting and contorting of the mouth in peculiar ways is something that is seen in sociopaths a lot.

Yep. Also, Katie tends to seek out the weakest or least popular in a group to target, would a person with aspergers do that? It's calculated like you say

[Kazanne]

When you think about it, IF there really is something wrong with Katie H & she has little or no control over her actions, the likes of Michelle, Kav, Cami & Calum should be even more ashamed of themselves for backing her up.
She has an excuse for her behaviour they don't.

So you would have isolated her?

[Niamh.]

So you would have isolated her?

Katie Hopkins was the only one trying to isolate anyone :idc:

[Jennifereliza]

I reckon it's because she's playing a character and they're not natural body movements but ones she puts on for the role she plays

Excellent point x

[DemolitionRed]

Yep. Also, Katie tends to seek out the weakest or least popular in a group to target, would a person with aspergers do that? It's calculated like you say

No, they aren't the weakest but they are emphatic types and because they have a big dose of empathy, they are more open to using their own intuition and are therefore more likely to question her motives. The real victims of a sociopath are those willing to follow her, not because they are mean spirited but because they are less likely to regard their own intuition as anything more than a silly thought. They are more open to her superficial charm; more taken in by her fake niceties. A sociopath sees empathic people as a threat but once she has her back up team behind her, she will go about destroying them with cool wit and a sharp tongue.

No...this isn't something an Aspies would do.

[TwentyFourSeven]

I think that Katie H's weird expressions are her way of mocking people and being condescending when listening to a person talking, without having to say anything.

[bots]

KH is a very animated speaker. She uses her entire body to express her opinions. I think its something she has learnt to do as it reinforces any positions she takes in arguments. Perez is very similar to her in that regard. Her body movement when others are talking is an inability to let others have an opinion without having some sort of input. Even if she doesn't say anything, people know what she is thinking. Its also very interesting that the other housemates always look to her for some sort of gesture of acceptance if they make a point in a discussion.

Contrast this behaviour to Michelle who is almost a polar opposite. It would be almost impossible to work out what Michelle was thinking

[Niamh.]

No, they aren't the weakest but they are emphatic types and because they have a big dose of empathy, they are more open to using their own intuition and are therefore more likely to question her motives. The real victims of a sociopath are those willing to follow her, not because they are mean spirited but because they are less likely to regard their own intuition as anything more than a silly thought. They are more open to her superficial charm; more taken in by her fake niceties. A sociopath sees empathic people as a threat but once she has her back up team behind her, she will go about destroying them with cool wit and a sharp tongue.

No...this isn't something an Aspies would do.

mmm Nadia was certainly a hugely empathetic person. What about Alicia though? I think she was quite empathetic but Katie seemed to have targeted her as soon as she met her because she was weak (or so she thought, Alicia actually turned out to be stringer than i expected)

Also, what do you think her reasons for targeting Perez was? Just that she found him annoying or because you think he was also empathetic?

[jaxie]

Yep, absolutely this. We need sociopaths in our world but we just need them in the right places.
They can also be dangerous to follow and misinterpret which I think the public popularity is largely. If she is a sociopath and is charming a lot of people I don't really understand why we aren't all falling for it. Are we the cynics or the empaths?

You nailed asbergers much more information eloquently than I did. You are right people with asbergers that I have had experience with have all been remorseful when realising they have done something wrong in the sense of hurting others with detachment or violence. Hopkins for me seems to lack empathy.

[Niamh.]

KH is a very animated speaker. She uses her entire body to express her opinions. I think its something she has learnt to do as it reinforces any positions she takes in arguments. Perez is very similar to her in that regard. Her body movement when others are talking is an inability to let others have an opinion without having some sort of input. Even if she doesn't say anything, people know what she is thinking. Its also very interesting that the other housemates always look to her for some sort of gesture of acceptance if the make a point in a discussion.

Contrast this behaviour to Michelle who is almost a polar opposite. It would be almost impossible to work out what Michelle was thinking

Yes! I said that yesterday about Kav during the Eamon Holmes task, everytime he said something he looked over at Katie as if he was looking for some sort of sign of approval

[Kazanne]

Katie Hopkins was the only one trying to isolate anyone :idc:

:joker::joker::joker: I was waiting for that one.

[Niamh.]

:joker::joker::joker: I was waiting for that one.

Well there it is arriving on the fun train

http://i.imgur.com/7UGFUVm.jpg

[Josy]

Well there it is arriving on the fun train

http://i.imgur.com/7UGFUVm.jpg

:joker::joker::joker:

[DemolitionRed]

mmm Nadia was certainly a hugely empathetic person. What about Alicia though? I think she was quite empathetic but Katie seemed to have targeted her as soon as she met her because she was weak (or so she thought, Alicia actually turned out to be stringer than i expected)

Also, what do you think her reasons for targeting Perez was? Just that she found him annoying or because you think he was also empathetic?

I think if anyone had a touch of Aspergers it was Alicia. There was a lot of emotional indifference from Alicia and she didn't understand untruths. She wasn't worried about speaking her mind and that included revealing truths about herself that most people would staunchly hide.

Parez and Hopkins are absolutely facinating. Parez (and this is only my opinion) is a narcissist. Grandiosity, loud and very emotional in a self pitying sort of way.

I should just say, sociopaths are narcissistic but narcissists are not sociopaths...both are self serving, neither apologise, though a sociopath can fain an apology. Whilst narcissists have little regard for the rules and can behave in a very unruly way, a functioning sociopath will be much calmer and more calculated in their actions. Narcissists becomes easily frustrated and loud when they want to get their point across, whereas a sociopath feels no frustration at all and will appear ultimately calm in most situations.

Put a sociopath with a narcissist and the sociopath will take delight in torturing that narcissist like a helpless kitten. Whilst everyone else in the house found Parez exhausting, Katie Hopkins found him entertaining and took delight in bringing out his narcissistic traits and using those traits to squash him like a fly.

[chuff me dizzy]

I love the faces she pulls and the raised eyebrow !!! long may she raise it !!

[Niamh.]

I think if anyone had a touch of Aspergers it was Alicia. There was a lot of emotional indifference from Alicia and she didn't understand untruths. She wasn't worried about speaking her mind and that included revealing truths about herself that most people would staunchly hide.

Parez and Hopkins are absolutely facinating. Parez (and this is only my opinion) is a narcissist. Grandiosity, loud and very emotional in a self pitying sort of way.

I should just say, sociopaths are narcissistic but narcissists are not sociopaths...both are self serving, neither apologise, though a sociopath can fain an apology. Whilst narcissists have little regard for the rules and can behave in a very unruly way, a functioning sociopath will be much calmer and more calculated in their actions. Narcissists becomes easily frustrated and loud when they want to get their point across, whereas a sociopath feels no frustration at all and will appear ultimately calm in most situations.

Put a sociopath with a narcissist and the sociopath will take delight in torturing that narcissist like a helpless kitten. Whilst everyone else in the house found Parez exhausting, Katie Hopkins found him entertaining and took delight in bringing out his narcissistic traits and using those traits to squash him like a fly.

As much as i liked Perez, I think your analysis of him is very accurate. Also, that's an interesting observation of Alicia, you could be right

[DemolitionRed]

They can also be dangerous to follow and misinterpret which I think the public popularity is largely. If she is a sociopath and is charming a lot of people I don't really understand why we aren't all falling for it. Are we the cynics or the empaths?



We are empaths and we listen to our intuition. BTW, have you ever read a book called 'The Gift of Fear"?. I think you would enjoy it.

Those who are indifferent to someone bullying or take sides with a bully tend to be apaths.

[InOne]

Attachment disorder with Sociopathic traits.

[Tarryn]

So you would have isolated her?

Why isolate her ?.
I would be polite to her. I'm sure Katie H would not recognize such a thing :hehe:

[jaxie]

We are empaths and we listen to our intuition. BTW, have you ever read a book called 'The Gift of Fear"?. I think you would enjoy it.

Those who are indifferent to someone bullying or take sides with a bully tend to be apaths.

Thanks for the book tip, I'll download from amazon.

I agree with your assessment of Perez and his relationship with Hopkins. What I find harder to understand is the public demonization of him. I am not a fan but can't see that he has done anything to warrant the hate, he's annoying but he isn't a bully like James Jordan. He isn't kicking any puppies.(Hopkins is the puppy kicker in the house). The Perez hate seems a little OTT.

[Razor]

I find the way she talks to people annoying. She basically talks as though she was addressing a five year old and not forgetting the over use of her hands.

[Jack The Cat]

Thanks for the book tip, I'll download from amazon.

I agree with your assessment of Perez and his relationship with Hopkins. WhatI find harder to understand is the public demonization of him. I am noy a fan but can't see that he has done anything to warrant the hate, he's annoying but he isn't a bully like James Jordan. He isn't kicking any puppies.(Hopkins is the puppy kicker in the house). The Perez hate seems a little OTT.

TBH any hate is ott, for me the moment Perez seemingly at random attacked Katie in the grave task was the moment I was fixed in my dislike for him, everything else just reinforced that feeling. It just seemed so vicious, spiteful and random.

[DemolitionRed]

I think some people can get overly obsessive and when that happens they tend to demonize anyone who annoys the person they are fixated on. There has certainly been a lot of that going on in here. We all see things differently and make judgements accordingly. It only gets frustrating when we can't convert the masses..."why can't they see what we see?", "Why can't we see what they see?" Our expectations exceed what can be delivered and that's what causes frustration.

Its interesting that Katie Price can't see the demon in Parez. Yes he's annoying, yes he's obnoxious, loud and too full of himself a lot of the time and to an extent he became the victim of his own making, but there are things I like about Parez. There's nothing forced about him which makes him very transparent; I guess I like that transparency.

[Absorption]

I think the real question is, "is there anything right with her?"

[Razor]

I think the real question is, "is there anything right with her?"


Spot on

[Daniel-X]

Basically what the title asks but other than the epilepsy and the nastiness..

She seems like she has some sort of tic or similar, she pulls the weirdest faces and nods her head erratically during conversations that don't even involve her.

Then there's the complete unnecessary rolls of the entire head just to roll her eyes at something.

Very odd.

I'm glad I'm not the only one it seems she can't physically go five minutes without gurning

[mazerunner_888]

Is anything right with her?

[Kizzy]

Bit surprised at you Josy, you're usually the first to say something at the suggestion that HMs are mentally challenged due to their behaviour in the house.

[jaxie]

Great thread Josy, thanks, really enjoyed the discussion.

[Lstan]

I am convinced she is a sociopath.

:laugh3:

same

[Lstan]

I think the real question is, "is there anything right with her?"

PREACH
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[Josy]

Bit surprised at you Josy, you're usually the first to say something at the suggestion that HMs are mentally challenged due to their behaviour in the house.

Yes because asking if she has a tic is suggesting that she is mentally challenged.

:rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

Yes because asking if she has a tic is suggesting that she is mentally challenged.

:rolleyes:

You're suggesting she has cerebral palsy or something then as well as her epilepsy?

If she did it when she spoke to everyone then you'd maybe have a point but it's only as a way to distract those she's having a disagreement with.

[hijaxers]

I thnk she is just driven by greed.
She has no real talent, therefore it is easier to just 'act out' her hate.
She is clever enough to know that controversy sells, just not clever enough to realise you reap what you sow, one day Karma will come and bite her on the backside.
The only thng mssing from her brain is a conscience, she cares not who she hurts or damages by her articles. The media that employ her or give her a platform to spew her bile are just as guilty.

:clap1: agree totally

[ozzyshaggah]

she came in with a huge game plan but found that this experience has taken her way out of her normal comfort zone thats why she look very awkward

or

could be simple that she is as mad as a hatter

either way who cares

[Josy]

You're suggesting she has cerebral palsy or something then as well as her epilepsy?

If she did it when she spoke to everyone then you'd maybe have a point but it's only as a way to distract those she's having a disagreement with.

Jeez could you reach any further.

Abnormalities in the brain can cause tics, Katie has told people she has part of her brain missing....

You have taken ONE thing that could possibly cause a tic and accused me of suggesting she has it?

I asked if she has a tic and that's what I meant.

[Kizzy]

Jeez could you reach any further.

Abnormalities in the brain can cause tics, Katie has told people she has part of her brain missing....

You have taken ONE thing that could possibly cause a tic and accused me of suggesting she has it?

I asked if she has a tic and that's what I meant.

I'm reaching?.... she pulls a face during a couple of convos and you suggest that.

[Josy]

I'm reaching?.... she pulls a face during a couple of convos and you suggest that.

She does constantly during almost every conversation even ones shes not involved in she also does it in reaction to things that happen.

[JTM45]

I really don't think there's anything RIGHT with her!
She's a vile piece of ****!!!!!

[SaveUs]

I am convinced she is a sociopath.

Word

[Kizzy]

She does constantly during almost every conversation even ones shes not involved in she also does it in reaction to things that happen.

She does it to undermine people and patronise them, far from being involuntary I think it is very calculating.

[Angelika]

I am convinced she is a sociopath.

She could be a lot of things but nasty I'm sure of.