London Royal Parks are putting up signs No Drones

[arista]

"They claim it has a negative effect on Wildlife"

Ref: BBC London News



Thats not True birds fly away from them
its Parks in London.
Let the kids fly their drones
they are not hurting anyone

We do not want them in a AsdaWalmart
or Morrisons car park

[DemolitionRed]

Apparently drones all over the world are being legislated against. The establishment can spy on us but are paranoid about us spying on them. We often use a drone for filming when we are climbing; don't know if that will be a legitimate purpose or not :(

[arista]

Apparently drones all over the world are being legislated against. The establishment can spy on us but are paranoid about us spying on them. We often use a drone for filming when we are climbing; don't know if that will be a legitimate purpose or not :(

Yes there is a Woman in the House Of Lords (Baroness O' Cathain )
trying to rush it through.

But even if you do not go legal (if it comes in)
loads of Drone users will carry on as they are not effecting the public or air safety places.


And of course Amazon Drones will get UK licenses
as they will be flying to my Home and Bunker
and to old people who can not find HiFi Shops
also to many Business Customers

[Livia]

This does need some legislation. I'm sure a lot of drones are used responsibly but there will be those who use them for dubious purposes. The of course, there's the element of danger, flying them near airfields or airports for instance.

[Livia]

Any flying over 'No Fly Zones' or other 'obvious' areas such as airports etc, should be shot down as if they were 'enemy' surveillance machines, but I can't really see where a problem is with parks etc. Unless there are nutty drone owners who deliberately target the wildlife to amuse themselves?

... or filming kids... or spying on a girlfriend... I'm not a fan of these things. Everyone's a cameraman now, everyone carries a video camera and a stills camera in the form of a phone. I like to feel I own the copyright on my own image and object to being filmed or photographed... drones, as far as I can see it, are just another layer to this potential gross invasion of privacy.

[arista]

This does need some legislation. I'm sure a lot of drones are used responsibly but there will be those who use them for dubious purposes. The of course, there's the element of danger, flying them near airfields or airports for instance.


what like flying over chaos garden
while she is sun bathing

[Livia]

what like flying over chaos garden
while she is sun bathing

Arista... you devil!

[Kizzy]

Ok... what's a drone?

[Niamh.]

Ok... what's a drone?

an aircraft without a pilot, so i presume they mean remote control planes or helicopters? I don't know what all the photography stuff is about....

[arista]

Ok... what's a drone?

http://www.brookstone.com/webassets/product_images/700x700/786406p.jpg
This thread is about him


NOT USA Army Drones

[Kizzy]

I thought they were just those super light remote control round things with a fan?
https://kikecalvoblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/ar-drone-2-0-elite-edition-snow-with-outdoor-hull.jpg?w=660

[arista]

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/03/17/5d1f3605-03a6-40fb-9958-feb3784282ea/thumbnail/620x350/d854408ab5e93b95fc38edaad063c534/drones-nationals-ap923034552937.jpg
This one has a SuperHD 4K camera
that will pick out Chaos in her garden
here or her future nation

[Kizzy]

there's not going to be many kids flying around a £700+ thing like that is there? :laugh:

[Niamh.]

I thought they were just those super light remote control round things with a fan?
https://kikecalvoblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/ar-drone-2-0-elite-edition-snow-with-outdoor-hull.jpg?w=660

I just google imaged "toy drone" and it brought up all sorts of remote control flying things, I don't know :laugh:

[arista]

there's not going to be many kids flying around a £700+ thing like that is there? :laugh:


No they are at £50
as well.


Mass Production
in China
has meant buying in bulk
they can be sold for around just £50

[Kizzy]

I got my son one years ago from national geographic, it was £20 from argos.

[Livia]

The drones referred to here are the ones with integrated cameras.

[arista]

I got my son one years ago from national geographic, it was £20 from argos.


Sure
but with cheap HD Cameras
on many new ones
you can be hidden controlling it with
your phone.



In America
One Lady said she likes to get naked in her High Rise Flat
and she said if a Drone gets near her
High Up
she will Blow it out of the sky with her
registered rifle

[Niamh.]

The drones referred to here are the ones with integrated cameras.

But how would one with a camera be more disruptive to birds/wildlife then one without a camera?

[Kizzy]

The drones referred to here are the ones with integrated cameras.

Where does it say that?

[Livia]

But how would one with a camera be more disruptive to birds/wildlife then one without a camera?


It would be equally disruptive. But with a camera it adds a new intrusive element to these things. Arista's already going to try to catch Chaos in the buff... where will it all end?

[arista]

Where does it say that?

It was debated on BBCNews London TV
yesterday


Most New Drones Now have a HD Camera fitted
or a slot to insert one.

[Livia]

Where does it say that?

Read through the thread and watch the discussion evolve.

[arista]

It would be equally disruptive. But with a camera it adds a new intrusive element to these things. Arista's already going to try to catch Chaos in the buff... where will it all end?


Yes its a Example
as 4KHD gets in close

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/08/266D991900000578-2984676-image-m-40_1425777973966.jpg
A new Sign gone up fast


Drones have been banned from parks near Buckingham Palace and other senior Royals’ homes amid fears they could be used by spies or would-be terrorists.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984676/Royal-parks-declared-no-drone-zones-Remote-controlled-aircraft-banned-areas-near-Buckingham-Palace-royal-homes-terrorism-fears.html#ixzz3TttLWlqw


My info came from Sundays BBC News London

[Niamh.]

It would be equally disruptive. But with a camera it adds a new intrusive element to these things. Arista's already going to try to catch Chaos in the buff... where will it all end?

:laugh:

hhhmmm I'm kind of torn on the subject of drones with cameras, on the one hand, i reckon the vast majority of people aren't going to be using them to spy on people (like my step son likes to make his own minigliders and he often attaches his phone to it, to record the flights) so why should they be penalised because a small minority might? But on the otherhand if you were on the receiving end of a drone privacy invasion then then maybe my opinion would be different. But then again anyone with those intentions would probably just go about that privacy invasion in a different way if drones were illegal

[Kizzy]

Read through the thread and watch the discussion evolve.

I'd rather just have the facts.

[arista]

I'd rather just have the facts.


I have posted one link
more later

[Kizzy]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/08/266D991900000578-2984676-image-m-40_1425777973966.jpg
A new Sign gone up fast


Drones have been banned from parks near Buckingham Palace and other senior Royals’ homes amid fears they could be used by spies or would-be terrorists.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984676/Royal-parks-declared-no-drone-zones-Remote-controlled-aircraft-banned-areas-near-Buckingham-Palace-royal-homes-terrorism-fears.html#ixzz3TttLWlqw


My info came from Sundays BBC News London

It does say that drones without cameras can be flown up to 400ft of the owner, I would have thought that would be ok?
What about kites? WWMPD (what would mary poppins do)

[Livia]

I'd rather just have the facts.

We're only on page 2 Kizzy, there isn't much to wade through.

[arista]

It does say that drones without cameras can be flown up to 400ft of the owner, I would have thought that would be ok?
What about kites? WWMPD (what would mary poppins do)

As I stated I got info direct from BBCNews London


Kites are OK
if its not sign posted not to
Mary Poppins Away

[Livia]

:laugh:

hhhmmm I'm kind of torn on the subject of drones with cameras, on the one hand, i reckon the vast majority of people aren't going to be using them to spy on people (like my step son likes to make his own minigliders and he often attaches his phone to it, to record the flights) so why should they be penalised because a small minority might? But on the otherhand if you were on the receiving end of a drone privacy invasion then then maybe my opinion would be different. But then again anyone with those intentions would probably just go about that privacy invasion in a different way if drones were illegal

The Paparazzi already use them. I think if someone flies one over your property you should be able to bring it down with as many shots as you can get off while it passes overhead.

[arista]

We're only on page 2 Kizzy, there isn't much to wade through.

Never mind

It was on Many Debates on TV and Radio Today

[Niamh.]

The Paparazzi already use them. I think if someone flies one over your property you should be able to bring it down with as many shots as you can get off while it passes overhead.

Oh the paparazzi, yeah never thought about that actually and yes I agree

[Kizzy]

We're only on page 2 Kizzy, there isn't much to wade through.

I meant as reported not as interpreted, but thanks.

[Kizzy]

Are the paparazzi using drones to spy on celebrities in parks?

[arista]

Oh the paparazzi, yeah never thought about that actually and yes I agree

I noticed one spiv
hidden behind a wall
so no one who noticed that 4kHDCamera Drone
Flying ,
knew it was the press.


Its not like the Press ones are Red and White painted Drones

[arista]

Are the paparazzi using drones to spy on celebrities in parks?
Depends which MP's are in the Bushes?

[Niamh.]

Are the paparazzi using drones to spy on celebrities in parks?

Why are you so upset that the topic on drones is widening a bit? :laugh: It's not off topic, it's expanding on the topic.

[Northern Monkey]

Lol i did'nt know people owned them for private use.I thought it was just the NSA and MI5 that used them.

[arista]

Lol i did'nt know people owned them for private use.I thought it was just the NSA and MI5 that used them.

Last Xmas
Maplins sold thousands of them

[Northern Monkey]

Last Xmas
Maplins sold thousands of them

Haha!Now i'm off to buy one.Sounds like fun.

[Kizzy]

Why are you so upset that the topic on drones is widening a bit? :laugh: It's not off topic, it's expanding on the topic.

I'm not upset and it's not widening.. it's just making things up, and has nothing to do with the reason for the ban. :laugh:

[arista]

Crossed Wires

[Livia]

Crossed Wires

No... an evolving discussion.

[arista]

OK

[Niamh.]

No... an evolving discussion.

indeed.

[Kizzy]

Ok ok I like hypothetical situations too :laugh:

[Ninastar]

what like flying over chaos garden
while she is sun bathing

:fist::fist::fist::fist:

[user104658]

You could make this argument about a lot of things, though. If it's about privacy - do they have to ban telescopic camera lenses next? Someone with a good vantage point can take a picture of you without you knowing just as easily with one of those as they can with a drone.

Personally, I don't think the device themselves should be banned, only specific uses should be legislated against (such as spying). I've seen a few truly amazing shots of scenery and wildlife taken using drones, it would be a shame to make them completely illegal as they have plenty of Legitimate uses.

I can even think of household uses. Like if you think your roof may have been damaged in bad weather - fly your drone up to have a look rather than teetering around on a ladder. Tradespeople and construction workers could make use of them in similar ways, too.