Would you watch the GermanWings video?

[Crimson Dynamo]

It will be online soon I expect, will you watch?

'Oh God': Horrific mobile phone video recovered from Germanwings plane wreckage reveals the last desperate moments of screaming passengers who knew they were going to die


Video allegedly taken from inside the cabin moments before plane crashed
Clip reportedly stored on memory card found amid crash scene wreckage
Footage, which is a few seconds long, is 'chaotic and completely shaky'
But paper which has seen footage said its accuracy 'is beyond question'
Official involved in recovery operation denied recording had been found


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/01/01/272E2A4B00000578-3020310-image-a-38_1427846675032.jpg
I HOPE SO': CHILLING WORDS FROM LUBITZ AS CAPTAIN TELLS HIM HE IS IN CONTROL OF PLANE, JUST MINUTES BEFORE HE CRASHES IT INTO ALPS

Paris Match also obtained information from the 'Cockpit Voice Recorder,' one of the aircraft's two black boxes, which recorded the sounds and conversations in the cockpit.

Its contents were described for the periodical by a special investigator. Here is his account:

10am: The airplane takes off.
10:10am: The Captain says to Lubitz: 'I didn't have time to use the bathroom before taking off.' Lubitz replies: 'Go whenever you'd like.'
10:27am: The plane reaches cruising altitude, which is 38000ft (11,500m).
The captain asks Lubitz to prepare the approach for landing and to verify that the plane can begin the landing process. Lubitz obeys. He repeats to the captain again: 'You can go. You can go now.'
10:28am: Noise can be heard coming from a seat. The captain removes his seatbelt. The door is opened. The captain says to Lubitz: 'You are in control now.'
Lubitz answers with a seemingly light tone of voice: 'I hope so.'
10:30am: Lubitz is alone in the cockpit. He locks the door with the 'Lock' button: it is no longer possible to open the door from the outside.
The sounds can be heard of automatic pilot being reprogrammed to accelerate the descent, pushing the plane from 38,000ft (11,000m) to 100ft (30m) in a matter of minutes.
10:33am: The landing begins. The plane drops 3000ft (900m) per minute. Air traffic controllers detect the problem. They try several times to contact the airplane by radio. Lubitz does not respond.
The captain's voice can be heard as he tries to open the door: 'It's me!' The captain is facing a camera connected to the cockpit. Lubitz sees him on screen but does not react.
The captain grabs an oxygen tank or fire extinguisher in order to break down the door.No response from Lubitz. The captain yells: 'For the love of God, open this door!'
10:34am: A first alarm goes off, audible and visual: 'SINK RATE, PULL UP.' No reaction from Lubitz.
Through the cockpit door, the first sounds of passengers running in the aisles can be heard.
10:35am: The captain asks for the crowbar hidden in the back of the plane. Louder bangs can be heard hitting the door, followed by metallic sounds. The captain tries to bend the door with the crowbar.
10:37am: A second alarm is set off, audible and visual: 'TERRAIN, PULL UP.' Still no reaction from Lubitz. The captain yells: 'Open this *********g door!'
10:38am: Despite the deafening noises, Lubitz's breathing can cleary be heard through an oxygen mask he put on. He is breathing normally. The plane is at 13,000 feet (4000 ms).
10:40am: A violent sound can be heard outside. At the same time, inside, screaming. The Airbus hits the mountain with its right wing. No other sound, save for the alarms and the screaming passengers.
10:41am: The airplane hits the Estrop mountain range at 5,000 feet (1500m) at 800 km/h.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3020310/Mobile-phone-video-showing-moments-Germanwings-flight-passengers-cries-oh-god-discovered-wreckage-plane-investigators.html#ixzz3W2kJdrgY

[Ammi]

..no..a father of one of the victims said that the focus now for him is not how those who were killed felt or how it was possible for any of it to happen but more trying to ensure that it never happens again and I think that I agree with that....

[Livia]

I wouldn't watch it by choice. There are plenty of people who're going to have to watch it for professional reasons and I'm glad I'm not one of them.

[andybigbro]

No. I couldn't do it.

[Kizzy]

No.

[AnnieK]

Nope....

[Niamh.]

No

[Calderyon]

Maybe.

[Cherie]

No I think it would haunt me. I want to know how it got into the public domain and why the French prosecuter allegedly knows nothing about it, if this story proves to be correct was it sold to the newspapers in question? This footage is something only the families,(if they want to see it) the airline and prosecutor should be privy to.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I will watch it as I have a morbid fascination for things like this and always have (hence how I look at kaotic.com and liveleak etc)

I have watched all the avalable 9/11 stuff including listening to all the calls made from mobiles etc. I find it fascinating. I should have worked in this field thinking in hindsight

I know this sounds bizarre but i have always wondered what a plane crash looks like in very slow motion from inside the plane?

This could explain why I am single?


That all said I could not bring myself to look at that sheep video neem posted as I knew it would make me sad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh and i have just noticed my avatar

:omgno:

[smudgie]

No.

[Cherie]

I will watch it as I have a morbid fascination for things like this and always have (hence how I look at kaotic.com and liveleak etc)

I have watched all the avalable 9/11 stuff including listening to all the calls made from mobiles etc. I find it fascinating. I should have worked in this field thinking in hindsight

I know this sounds bizarre but i have always wondered what a plane crash looks like in very slow motion from inside the plane?

This could explain why I am single?


That all said I could not bring myself to look at that sheep video neem posted as I knew it would make me sad.

I can understand morbid fascination, I think the difference with 9/11 is that it was the families themselves or the authorities who released mobile phone conversations etc presumably wiht permission from the families involved, this feels wrong in that from what limited information we have someone in the recovery team has allegedly come across this and not done the right thing with it, and perhaps has even profited from it (speculation on my part I know), the families have suffered enough imo without this being made public.

[Vicky.]

Yes probably, when it gets posted everywhere. I wouldn't purposely look for it though

[Nedusa]

I would not make a point of trying to see it, but I think it will eventually end up in general circulation.

There are more and more of these "Death porn" type videos appearing on the internet as the proliferation of Phones with Cameras makes recording these types of events more and more likely.

A bit Ghoulish though to want to share other people's violent death from the comparative safety of your armchair.........

[arista]

Yes

[Z]

What I want to know is why in your last moments would you think to start filming? Do you think it was a notoriety thing, like whoever filmed it thought "I want people to know what happened" and was trying to be helpful or become famous in death or something?

I don't think I'd watch it, I don't think it would improve my understanding of the situation, it would just make me feel sad and scared.

[DemolitionRed]

Until the authorities say its genuine, I don't believe its genuine.

No, I do have a morbid fascination but not that morbid. I accidentally saw part of a beheading when round at a friends house and I'm still having nightmares about that one.

[user104658]

I probably would. I have a lingering fascination with human psychology from my degree, and as morbid as it is, these extreme situations aren't often caught well on film. Although it doesn't sound like events outside the cockpit were caught well here either. A video from inside the cockpit showing the man's face would be interesting (and very useful to people trying to figure out what exactly was going on in his head) but it appears to be just audio for that, and he wasn't saying much.

[Smithy]

Probably not, I feel a bit ill just reading that timeline of events

[kirklancaster]

What I want to know is why in your last moments would you think to start filming? Do you think it was a notoriety thing, like whoever filmed it thought "I want people to know what happened" and was trying to be helpful or become famous in death or something?

I don't think I'd watch it, I don't think it would improve my understanding of the situation, it would just make me feel sad and scared.

Maybe it was someone who thought he/she would survive and make lots of money from the footage? Or maybe he/she thought that his/her loved ones could do so after his/her death?

[Northern Monkey]

Think i've seen it.Only a few seconds.Not much to see really.

[Cherie]

I probably would. I have a lingering fascination with human psychology from my degree, and as morbid as it is, these extreme situations aren't often caught well on film. Although it doesn't sound like events outside the cockpit were caught well here either. A video from inside the cockpit showing the man's face would be interesting (and very useful to people trying to figure out what exactly was going on in his head) but it appears to be just audio for that, and he wasn't saying much.

A video from inside the cockpit might help in the investigation yes, a video of people screaming because they knew they were going to die isn't going to help anyone.

[user104658]

A video from inside the cockpit might help in the investigation yes, a video of people screaming because they knew they were going to die isn't going to help anyone.
It doesn't help the investigation, no, but that doesn't mean it isn't interesting in psychological terms. I do acknowledge that that sounds very cold, and also that most people are just watching it for morbid "kicks"...

[Crimson Dynamo]

It doesn't help the investigation, no, but that doesn't mean it isn't interesting in psychological terms. I do acknowledge that that sounds very cold, and also that most people are just watching it for morbid "kicks"...

I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting to understand what it was like in there. The people do not exist anymore and are not coming back.

[user104658]

I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting to understand what it was like in there. The people do not exist anymore and are not coming back.


I agree LT, so long as you don't go chatting about it to people who don't want to know or hear about it then it hurts literally no one.

However, I suspect this viewpoint might technically make us mild sociopaths. Oh well :shrug:

[Cherie]

I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting to understand what it was like in there. The people do not exist anymore and are not coming back.

They might not exist but they "live on" through their family members, if it were me I would find it very upsetting that people wanted to view a relatives last horrific moments for mostly voyeuristic reasons. Maybe that is just me :shrug:

[Jamesy]

I'd watch it, I have a morbid fascination too. I probably wouldn't go hunting it down though, only watch it if I came across it.

If it's genuine it will help the investigation team a lot too, in gathering a picture of the final events.

[Cherie]

I'd watch it, I have a morbid fascination too. I probably wouldn't go hunting it down though, only watch it if I came across it.

If it's genuine it will help the investigation team a lot too, in gathering a picture of the final events.

But (a) it wasn't passed to the prosecutor it was (probably sold) passed directly to a French and German newspaper and (b) what could it possibly tell them that the black box recording hasn't, according to reports it is just sounds of the final moments and does not focus on anyone or anything in particular

[DemolitionRed]

I agree LT, so long as you don't go chatting about it to people who don't want to know or hear about it then it hurts literally no one.

However, I suspect this viewpoint might technically make us mild sociopaths. Oh well :shrug:

Not at all: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/jul/27/morbid-curiosity-change-life-burkeman

[Northern Monkey]

If what i saw was it,Literally a few seconds.Then i don't think it would help any investigation.

[jennyjuniper]

No. It's bad enough that those poor sould died needlessly, without sick bastards taking vicarious 'pleasure' in their last moments.

[Ammi]

No. It's bad enough that those poor sould died needlessly, without sick bastards taking vicarious 'pleasure' in their last moments.

....hmmm, I don't think it's 'pleasure' Jenny but more a morbid fascination which is perfectly natural as well...the reason I don't want to watch it and wouldn't is more because it all keeps this evil guy talked about and basically giving him just what he wanted..which is why I've made very few comments as well with it all although I've had many, many thoughts..I would much rather read more about the victims and their lives and less focus on that moment and their death....

[GypsyGoth]

I'm such a coward when it comes to this sort of stuff. If it was a movie I'd watch it no bother.

Actually there's so many gross or graphic images or vids on the net that I just avoid. It's like I'm experiencing a different internet to most other people, a kinda more pg watered down version.

[Cherie]

....hmmm, I don't think it's 'pleasure' Jenny but more a morbid fascination which is perfectly natural as well...the reason I don't want to watch it and wouldn't is more because it all keeps this evil guy talked about and basically giving him just what he wanted..which is why I've made very few comments as well with it all although I've had many, many thoughts..I would much rather read more about the victims and their lives and less focus on that moment and their death....

There is very little information on those who perished though Ammi, whether this is due to a media focus on the pilot or the families wishes to remain private, we don't know as yet, The pilot will continue to get the headlines unfortunately.

[Kizzy]

I'd say vicarious pleasure and morbid fascination are the same thing. For me there could be no other reason for wanting to see and hear this than a sick thrill too, it may be natural for some but far from normal imo.
You couldn't understand him from it, or comprehend 1 nth of what the passengers went through.. it would be as pointless an exercise as a seaside simulator.

[jennyjuniper]

....hmmm, I don't think it's 'pleasure' Jenny but more a morbid fascination which is perfectly natural as well...the reason I don't want to watch it and wouldn't is more because it all keeps this evil guy talked about and basically giving him just what he wanted..which is why I've made very few comments as well with it all although I've had many, many thoughts..I would much rather read more about the victims and their lives and less focus on that moment and their death....

Well said. I supposed I likened those who would want to listen/watch it, with the kind of people who stop and gawp at traffic victims etc.,

[Northern Monkey]

People in general are naturally curious.Human nature.They watch things like this to try and understand what it might be like on there.Even if we can never fully understand.