Police Abuse of Uber Driver in New York City

[GiRTh]

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Thank God the cop didn't shoot him.

[Kizzy]

He wasn't on duty was he?... what a nutter.

[Niamh.]

woah talk about a power trip, I hate that little Hitler complex some of these guys have. Hopefully he gets taken down a peg or two by this, rightly so

[Crimson Dynamo]

the guy did 3 traffic violations in a row and we have no context to what happened before. Its a fail video for me.

[GiRTh]

the guy did 3 traffic violations in a row and we have no context to what happened before. Its a fail video for me.The guys in the back were telling him he did nothing wrong. The vid has gone viral so not that much of a fail TBH

[Jay.]

Since he wasn't on duty, I'd have politely said sorry, done my window up and driven away lmfao

[Jay.]

Wait, was he on duty?

[Niamh.]

the guy did 3 traffic violations in a row and we have no context to what happened before. Its a fail video for me.

Oh get out of here, doesn't matter how many violations he did, the cop was clearly in a rage while the driver was calm, he has absolutely no right to speak to him like that at all, the Cop sounded like he was suffering from a dose of road rage which fits perfectly with story attached to this video

https://gma.yahoo.com/detective-seen-video-berating-uber-driver-under-internal-164548664--abc-news-topstories.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guys in the back were telling him he did nothing wrong. The vid has gone viral so not that much of a fail TBH

gone viral so what. It gives no context and therefore is just a little slice of sensationalism.

[arista]

No Abuse

[arista]

gone viral so what. It gives no context and therefore is just a little slice of sensationalism. Are you aware of how Asian drivers drive in NYC?


Yes it was on Red Eye

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh get out of here, doesn't matter how many violations he did, the cop was clearly in a rage while the driver was calm, he has absolutely no right to speak to him like that at all, the Cop sounded like he was suffering from a dose of road rage which fits perfectly with story attached to this video

https://gma.yahoo.com/detective-seen-video-berating-uber-driver-under-internal-164548664--abc-news-topstories.html

lol yes he was transfered ehich is code for "police chief seen to be doing something"

I like this bit from that article

"Michael Palladino, president of the Detectives' Endowment Association, noted he is "not trying to minimize the significance of what occurred."

"I am simply pointing out that cops are just like everyone else," Palladino added. "They have families, friends, and other things going on in their lives, too, that may affect their behavior at times. There is no disputing that we are held to a higher standard and that is why this incident is so newsworthy. Detective Cherry is a person of good character and an excellent Detective. He really should not be judged by one isolated incident."

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[GiRTh]

gone viral so what. It gives no context and therefore is just a little slice of sensationalism. Are you aware of how Asian drivers drive in NYC?
:joker:

Is that a serious comment? What does that have to do with anything? The guy were telling the driver he did nothing wrong while he was trying to explain to them. If he had committed a traffic crime does that warrant the attitude of the cop?

The driver apologized on a number of occasions, called the officer 'sir' a couple of times too but got anger and rage in return. Seems to be happening quite a lot these days.

[Niamh.]

lol yes he was transfered ehich is code for "police chief seen to be doing something"

I like this bit from that article

"Michael Palladino, president of the Detectives' Endowment Association, noted he is "not trying to minimize the significance of what occurred."

"I am simply pointing out that cops are just like everyone else," Palladino added. "They have families, friends, and other things going on in their lives, too, that may affect their behavior at times. There is no disputing that we are held to a higher standard and that is why this incident is so newsworthy. Detective Cherry is a person of good character and an excellent Detective. He really should not be judged by one isolated incident."

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lol LT always making excuses for the Police :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

Is that a serious comment? What does that have to do with anything? The guy were telling the driver he did nothing wrong while he was trying to explain to them. If he had committed a traffic crime does that warrant the attitude of the cop?

The driver apologized on a number of occasions, called the officer 'sir' a couple of times too but got anger and rage in return. Seems to be happening quite a lot these days.

Only in the videos you post...

[GiRTh]

lol yes he was transfered ehich is code for "police chief seen to be doing something"

I like this bit from that article

"Michael Palladino, president of the Detectives' Endowment Association, noted he is "not trying to minimize the significance of what occurred."

"I am simply pointing out that cops are just like everyone else," Palladino added. "They have families, friends, and other things going on in their lives, too, that may affect their behavior at times. There is no disputing that we are held to a higher standard and that is why this incident is so newsworthy. Detective Cherry is a person of good character and an excellent Detective. He really should not be judged by one isolated incident."

:clap1:So when a driver has to endure that kind of abuse for a traffic offense FFS then the police issues statement abut how they're human too. For a traffic offense. FFS Its laughable that a cop cant keep his cool on such a routine situation. Its a crazy excuse.

[GiRTh]

Only in the videos you post...There are plenty of them. Shall I post more?

[Crimson Dynamo]

YtCWOkadGTY

:clap1:

[GiRTh]

YtCWOkadGTY

:clap1:
That vid is 3 and a half years old. :joker:

EDIT: Sorry two and a half. :joker:

Got anything more recent?

[lostalex]

i'm shocked the cab driver was able to hold his tongue as much as he did. i would have been seething inside.

[GiRTh]

I like how the guys in the back handled it. They could have told the cop he was in the wrong but hey what would have happened next?

[Kizzy]

He didn't want to be arrested and so was quite rightly submissive, if those guys hadn't have been in the back he would have been.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i'm shocked the cab driver was able to hold his tongue as much as he did. i would have been seething inside.

maybe it was the fact he just broke the law 3 times and was delaying his passengers by his selfish actions?:shrug:

[arista]

YtCWOkadGTY

:clap1:


No good posting on this
Attack police thread

[Niamh.]

maybe it was the fact he just broke the law 3 times and was delaying his passengers by his selfish actions?:shrug:

His passengers seemed to be completely on his side and not even the slightest bit annoyed with him :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

His passengers seemed to be completely on his side and not even the slightest bit annoyed with him :shrug:

that is because he did not see the driver break 3 laws and did not understand what was going on.

as i said the video has no context and as such its impossible to judge. I would like to see a vid from outside the car to see him break the rules.

[Niamh.]

that is because he did not see the driver break 3 laws and did not understand what was going on.

as i said the video has no context and as such its impossible to judge. I would like to see a vid from outside the car to see him break the rules.

They do have eyes LT, I'm sure they would have noticed if he'd done something that dangerous to warrant an attack like that from the Police man :laugh: Point is a traffic violation should not warrant an attack from a Police man like that ever. The Police officer was pissed off because someone had the cheek to honk their horn at him for not indicating .......that's the long and short of it

[Ammi]

..I'm not defending how the police officer behaved at all and he should have and has had to face repercussions for it ..but if it was a 'bad day' and a one off and has a previously excellent record, I'm not sure whether it's fair that he should lose his place in the force so I agree with what Michael Palladino said there...

[Crimson Dynamo]

They do have eyes LT, I'm sure they would have noticed if he'd done something that dangerous to warrant an attack like that from the Police man :laugh: Point is a traffic violation should not warrant an attack from a Police man like that ever. The Police officer was pissed off because someone had the cheek to honk their horn at him for not indicating .......that's the long and short of it

I hope that the taxi driver will have learned his lesson and will not break the law again. The New York law enforcement officers have a hard enough time without this kind of nonsense.

[Livia]

Thye NYPD, like any other set of people, reflect society. Some are great, some are dicks.

[Tom4784]

That police officer should be sacked, if he's losing his **** over something so routine then he obviously doesn't have the temperament required for the role.

Nobody that out of control should be in a position of authority or, more importantly, in possession of a gun.

[Niamh.]

..I'm not defending how the police officer behaved at all and he should have and has had to face repercussions for it ..but if it was a 'bad day' and a one off and has a previously excellent record, I'm not sure whether it's fair that he should lose his place in the force so I agree with what Michael Palladino said there...

Yeah I agree with that if it was an isolated incident, it does sound more like a bad case of road rage than anything else. Although, as a Police Officer he should take this as a harsh lesson and make sure he does something about that temper of his. No one has the right to speak to another person in that way

[Niamh.]

Thye NYPD, like any other set of people, reflect society. Some are great, some are dicks.

Indeed

[GiRTh]

NYPD detective is stripped of his badge and gun and thrown out of elite terror division after enraged meltdown against Uber driver is caught on camera

The NYPD detective caught on video screaming at an Uber driver has lost his shield and gun and will be placed on administrative duty, police officials said Wednesday.

The New York Post reported in addition to being stripped of his badge, Detective Patrick Cherry will be placed on modified duty before being transferred out of the Joint Terrorism Task Force.

'No good cop should watch that video without a wince,' NYPD Police Chief Bill Bratton said at a press conference announcing Cherry was being placed on modified duty.

'Because all good cops know that officer just made their jobs a little bit harder,' Bratton added.

'In that kind of encounter, anger like that is unacceptable. In any encounter, discourtesy and obscene language like that is unacceptable.'

The New York Police Department's Internal Affairs Bureau launched an investigation into the incident, which occurred in the West Village, after footage captured by a passenger was posted online.

The officer was named by the New York Daily News as Detective Patrick Cherry of the NYPD's Joint Terrorism Task Force.
Detectives' Endowment Association President Michael Palladino said Cherry was returning from a visit with his colleague Detective Harry Hill.

Hill had recently had a heart attack while undergoing surgery and Cherry was reportedly very stressed.

'The past five days have been emotionally draining for the members of the JTTF dealing with their fellow detective's health,' Palladino said.

'Despite what some people think, cops have feelings, too.'

During the three-minute video, Detective Cherry shouts at the driver, screaming, 'I don't know where you're coming from, where you think you're appropriate in doing that.'

'That's not the way it works,' he continued. 'How long have you been in this country?'

The two passengers in the backseat of the car can be heard assuring the driver that he has done nothing wrong, with one of them saying; 'It's not your fault; this guy's just a d***.'

Moments later the cop returns with a ticket, this after he has pounded on the car and, according to one of the passengers, thrown things in the vehicle.

As the driver agrees with everything the cop says, he manages to cut off the man, which sends him into another tirade as he screams; 'I don't know what ********** planet you're on right now!'

The officer also mocks the driver's accent throughout and his pronunciation of certain words.

Our Uber driver, Humayun, was abused by a police officer today in New York,' Sanjay Seth, who took the video, wrote on his Facebook page on Monday.

'The unending rage, door slamming, throwing items into the car, threatening arrest without cause was bad enough - but the officer's remarks at the end really took it to another level.'

'The behavior in the video is wrong and unacceptable and we appreciate the NYPD investigating the incident,' Uber said in a statement.

'We are in touch with our driver-partner who was subjected to this terrible experience and will continue to provide any support he needs.'




Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022375/NYPD-detective-caught-spouting-racist-rant-Uber-driver-stripped-badge-gun-tossed-terrorism-division.html)

[Niamh.]

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[Livia]

A man's career over because he shouted at a taxi driver. Sledgehammer to crack a walnut, I'm thinking.

[Crimson Dynamo]

another victory for criminals

smh

[GiRTh]

The Uber driver 'honked' at Cherry as he pulled into a parking space without signalling You cant make this stuff up

[GiRTh]

another victory for criminals

smhBut the cops didnt win this time.

[Niamh.]

I am actually baffled how anyone is trying to defend this Police man :laugh:

[Livia]

I am actually baffled how anyone is trying to defend this Police man :laugh:

I think it's a little excessive that a man should lose his career from one outburst.

[Niamh.]

I think it's a little excessive that a man should lose his career from one outburst.

No that's a fair enough comment, I wasn't talking about yours. I mean actually defending him and pretending that he did nothing wrong

[GiRTh]

I think it's a little excessive that a man should lose his career from one outburst.Some lose their lives over one outburst.

[kirklancaster]

That vid is 3 and a half years old. :joker:

EDIT: Sorry two and a half. :joker:

Got anything more recent?

:joker: And since then the homeless guy has been legitimately shot dead by another cop for 'wearing dirty clothes in a clean area'. :hehe:

[Kizzy]

Some lose their lives over one outburst.
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[Tom4784]

A man's career over because he shouted at a taxi driver. Sledgehammer to crack a walnut, I'm thinking.

When police officers **** up, lives can be lost. They should be held to a high standard and should face the consequences when they don't meet that standard.

He came across as emotionally unbalanced, I'm glad the police held their hands up and actually took action and put him on a desk job since he didn't seem responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

[Ninastar]

I think it's a little excessive that a man should lose his career from one outburst.

Well said.

I'm not saying what the the Police man did wasn't wrong, but again, people haven't seen some of the drivers in the US. Especially in New York. I totally understand that some Police Officers are totally c u n t s, but as per usual, people will try and blow this up and make it so much worse than it actually is. Yes, you get the odd Police Officer who loves to give a power trip, but I'd much rather deal with the odd occasion than have to deal with a Police force who is too afraid to do anything for the fear of being shunned/hated/reported etc, etc.

[Ammi]

Some lose their lives over one outburst.

..yeah they do and they have and obviously it wasn't acceptable and had to incur punishment..but cases also have to be looked at individually and he didn't draw a weapon or put his hands on the driver..if he did have a previously excellent record, I just think that should be considered as well...maybe not active duty for a while but still being allowed to stay in the force..what we saw was the incident and he undoubtedly acted wrongly but we don't know any other factors that might make this likely to be a one off and completely out of character...

[Niamh.]

..yeah they do and they have and obviously it wasn't acceptable and had to incur punishment..but cases also have to be looked at individually and he didn't draw a weapon or put his hands on the driver..if he did have a previously excellent record, I just think that should be considered as well...maybe not active duty for a while but still being allowed to stay in the force..what we saw was the incident and he undoubtedly acted wrongly but we don't know any other factors that might make this likely to be a one off and completely out of character...

Yeah, if it was a "normal" citizen who'd had an outburst like this, they would probably be ordered to do some sort of anger management course. Looks like this cop could benefit from it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some lose their lives over one outburst.

what do you mean?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well said.

I'm not saying what the the Police man did wasn't wrong, but again, people haven't seen some of the drivers in the US. Especially in New York. I totally understand that some Police Officers are totally c u n t s, but as per usual, people will try and blow this up and make it so much worse than it actually is. Yes, you get the odd Police Officer who loves to give a power trip, but I'd much rather deal with the odd occasion than have to deal with a Police force who is too afraid to do anything for the fear of being shunned/hated/reported etc, etc.

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good comment

[Niamh.]

:clap1:

good comment

So you agree that the Police Officer was in thwrong then? I knew you'd see sense eventually :smug:

[Ammi]

Yeah, if it was a "normal" citizen who'd had an outburst like this, they would probably be ordered to do some sort of anger management course. Looks like this cop could benefit from it

..I agree, anger management is something he should do and then take it from there to see if he is able to return to normal duties...I do agree with LT in that it's a very stressful job and then there may be personal stresses as well that built up right at that moment ..that isn't an excuse but maybe it's something that would never happen again with him and it was one of those one off things..

[Crimson Dynamo]

So you agree that the Police Officer was in thwrong then? I knew you'd see sense eventually :smug:

I dont know what type of day he had, perhaps he had just called around on a mother to tell her that her 5 year old daughter had been killed by a unlicensed and uninsured taxi car or to an old lady to tell her her husband of 50 years had been murdered. Maybe he had just watched a similar type taxi nearly wipe out a mum and 2 small children at a cross walk..

we will never know

what I do know is not to be judge and jury from a youtube clip

[Kizzy]

Well.. he's gone from an abuser to a saint in 3 pages.. :/

[user104658]

I think it's a little excessive that a man should lose his career from one outburst.

Maybe, maybe not... I can more or less guarantee that my job would be at serious risk if I spoke to someone like that and surely a police officer SHOULD be held to a higher standard than someone in a civilian job. I completely understand where the police force are coming from in their statement, to be honest. What he did makes it harder for good cops to do their job properly. His actions furthered the public impression that police officers are all on power trips and that they should be feared. This makes people not trust them, and makes it so much harder for the good, calm, respectful officers doing their jobs properly to gain anyone's trust too, and that surely makes all of their jobs harder every single day.

The thing that really says it all: the two in the back are backing the driver up when the guy goes away from the car,

Driver says "That's what I'm saying, to put his blinker on..."

Both guys in the back: "No, no, no, do not say anything, don't say anything, just Yes Sir, I'm Sorry Sir, and that's it."

They react straight away and make it very clear that the driver should absolutely not state his case, he should just apologize profusely and hope to god that the guy lets him go without the situation escalating further. They both have American accents, sound very much like New York citizens, and they absolutely do not trust that an NYPD police officer won't go bat**** and do something extreme if he doesn't throw himself to the ground and lick his boots.

Sums up the public perception of the police very well. Are all officers like that? No. So why do the public fear them? Because of arseholes like this guy throwing their weight around.

[user104658]

I dont know what type of day he had, perhaps he had just called around on a mother to tell her that her 5 year old daughter had been killed by a unlicensed and uninsured taxi car or to an old lady to tell her her husband of 50 years had been murdered. Maybe he had just watched a similar type taxi nearly wipe out a mum and 2 small children at a cross walk..

we will never know

what I do know is not to be judge and jury from a youtube clip

Maybe he had just seen an old lady getting knocked down by a car that pulled in to park without indicating and that's why he was so mad at the... Oh no, wait, it was him that did that.

Regardless, he is an officer of the law and he doesn't get to take out the horrific actions of random people on other people who had absolutely nothing to do with it. Not without facing some sort of disciplinary action. Should he lose his career? No, but I personally think a suspension and probably some sort of anger management / re-education on being respectful to members of the public would be entirely appropriate.

[Livia]

I still say it's a little excessive.

[user104658]

I still say it's a little excessive.

I agree that losing his career would be excessive but I can't see anywhere that says that has happened?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The best thing to do is dont break the law, drive responsibly and you will never have to meet the police.

sorted

[Livia]

"The NYPD detective caught on video screaming at an Uber driver has lost his shield and gun and will be placed on administrative duty, police officials said Wednesday.

"The New York Post reported in addition to being stripped of his badge, Detective Patrick Cherry will be placed on modified duty before being transferred out of the Joint Terrorism Task Force."

[Niamh.]

I dont know what type of day he had, perhaps he had just called around on a mother to tell her that her 5 year old daughter had been killed by a unlicensed and uninsured taxi car or to an old lady to tell her her husband of 50 years had been murdered. Maybe he had just watched a similar type taxi nearly wipe out a mum and 2 small children at a cross walk..

we will never know

what I do know is not to be judge and jury from a youtube clip

Maybe he had to tell someone that their son or daughter was in a car accident because someone never indicated before they turned off :think:

[Niamh.]

Maybe, maybe not... I can more or less guarantee that my job would be at serious risk if I spoke to someone like that and surely a police officer SHOULD be held to a higher standard than someone in a civilian job. I completely understand where the police force are coming from in their statement, to be honest. What he did makes it harder for good cops to do their job properly. His actions furthered the public impression that police officers are all on power trips and that they should be feared. This makes people not trust them, and makes it so much harder for the good, calm, respectful officers doing their jobs properly to gain anyone's trust too, and that surely makes all of their jobs harder every single day.

The thing that really says it all: the two in the back are backing the driver up when the guy goes away from the car,

Driver says "That's what I'm saying, to put his blinker on..."

Both guys in the back: "No, no, no, do not say anything, don't say anything, just Yes Sir, I'm Sorry Sir, and that's it."

They react straight away and make it very clear that the driver should absolutely not state his case, he should just apologize profusely and hope to god that the guy lets him go without the situation escalating further. They both have American accents, sound very much like New York citizens, and they absolutely do not trust that an NYPD police officer won't go bat**** and do something extreme if he doesn't throw himself to the ground and lick his boots.

Sums up the public perception of the police very well. Are all officers like that? No. So why do the public fear them? Because of arseholes like this guy throwing their weight around.

Yup great post TS

[Kizzy]

You wouldn't expect anyone on a terrorism task force to display any behaviours that could be described as racist..

[Niamh.]

"The NYPD detective caught on video screaming at an Uber driver has lost his shield and gun and will be placed on administrative duty, police officials said Wednesday.

"The New York Post reported in addition to being stripped of his badge, Detective Patrick Cherry will be placed on modified duty before being transferred out of the Joint Terrorism Task Force."

He's been put on desk duty, doesn't mean it's permanent though

[user104658]

"The NYPD detective caught on video screaming at an Uber driver has lost his shield and gun and will be placed on administrative duty, police officials said Wednesday.

"The New York Post reported in addition to being stripped of his badge, Detective Patrick Cherry will be placed on modified duty before being transferred out of the Joint Terrorism Task Force."
He has not been dismissed from the job therefore he has not lost his career. He has damaged it, by having a standard of behaviour lower than what is expected of him. As anyone, in any career, might.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Niamh.]

That's a lovely story LT, not really on topic though :laugh: No one is denying that there are lots of good and decent Police Officers. This is about a specific Police Officer and incident though

[user104658]

The best thing to do is dont break the law, drive responsibly and you will never have to meet the police.

sorted
It's pretty clear that the cop didn't indicate when he turned off and therefore he was actually driving irresponsibly, too. But I suppose he gets a free pass or an "oh but we have no proof he did anything" yadda yadda. So I'll pre emptively point out that we have no proof that the stopped driver did anything wrong, either. In fact we have three people saying that the cop didn't indicate, versus one saying the other driver was on the wrong.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's pretty clear that the cop didn't indicate when he turned off and therefore he was actually driving irresponsibly, too. But I suppose he gets a free pass or an "oh but we have no proof he did anything" yadda yadda. So I'll pre emptively point out that we have no proof that the stopped driver did anything wrong, either. In fact we have three people saying that the cop didn't indicate, versus one saying the other driver was on the wrong.

I very much doubt the 2 fares in the rear seat were observing the traffic to make that call so can be ignored and i do not believe the perp either.

I will go with the cop here than the "taxidriver"

[user104658]

I very much doubt the 2 fares in the rear seat were observing the traffic to make that call so can be ignored and i do not believe the perp either.

I will go with the cop here than the "taxidriver"
They both specifically state the same thing, he didn't indicate. It's unambiguously bad driving. But I fully accept that you are biased.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They both specifically state the same thing, he didn't indicate. It's unambiguously bad driving. But I fully accept that you are biased.

I am on the side of the law and not people who drive badly and peep their horns a lot.

[Niamh.]

I am on the side of the law and not people who drive badly and peep their horns a lot.

It's extremely annoying and dangerous to turn without indicating I would have beeped at him too. maybe he needs some driving lessons to go along with his anger management course :smug:

[user104658]

I am on the side of the law and not people who drive badly and peep their horns a lot.
Meh. His superiors in the NYPD thought what he did was serious enough warrant action. If you're on the side of the law you should respect their decision, and not be trying to act like you know better.

[Kizzy]

I agree, if the consensus is that it's common courtesy to put your blinkers on to indicate your intention then he has to take some responsibility for any confusion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meh. His superiors in the NYPD thought what he did was serious enough warrant action. If you're on the side of the law you should respect their decision, and not be trying to act like you know better.

I do, pull him off assignment for a wee while and then when it all dies down reinstate him.

[Kizzy]

Not charge him with harassment and intimidation then?

[user104658]

I do, pull him off assignment for a wee while and then when it all dies down reinstate him.
There's nothing at all there to suggest that he won't get back on active duty once he's proven that he's calmed the **** down... If anything, the action taken, to me, suggests that this officer probably already had blots on his record for his obvious temper. Just a guess, obviously.

Still, they haven't even left him without an income, they've put him on pen pushing duty which IMO is a perfectly fair thing to do. An angry cop should not be on the streets with a firearm. Full stop. He needs to prove that he has that under control and can remain professional before they put a gun back in his hand.

[GiRTh]

what do you mean?I thought it was obvious what I meant and other forum members seem to have got it maybe you can contact one of them and find out.

[GiRTh]

I still say it's a little excessive.What about the cops behavior in the vid would you say that was excessive,.? To hell with him and his career. He got caught slating a citizen for no good reason. I think the punishment for that should be as harsh as he was to the citizen. Remember he threatened to have the guy arrested. To sack him is fair enough IMO

[Tom4784]

He was lucky to keep his job so I wouldn't say it's excessive. If he acted the way he did in any other job that involved working with the public then he wouldn't have a job.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He was lucky to keep his job so I wouldn't say it's excessive. If he acted the way he did in any other job that involved working with the public then he wouldn't have a job.

No other job is like the Police

[Ramsay]

The taxi guy says OK and the cop freaks out..:shrug:
**** him, he's a dick. did he get sacked? hopefully. what a grade A cock.
No sympathy whatsoever for cops who go on mad power trips like that.

[Kizzy]

No other job is like the Police

They are not infallible, nor should they when not on duty act like the militia.

[GiRTh]

No other job is like the PoliceDYT0XVofmJU
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Too right.

[Cherie]

If a civilian did what he did, he would have been arrested for road rage, the taxi beeped due to him not indicating, I would have done the same honking cars is one of the sounds of associated with New York, the cop needs to get over himself

[Crimson Dynamo]

DYT0XVofmJU
k-J9fRx-L-o
Too right.

yeah and you will be the first greeting on the phone for them if something bad happens to you

:idc:

[Tom4784]

No other job is like the Police

A weak reply and one that suggests a lower standard of behavior is acceptable in police work.

Police Officers are meant to resolve issues, not create or inflame them. If they can't remain calm whilst on the job then they shouldn't do the job in the first place.

[GiRTh]

yeah and you will be the first greeting on the phone for them if something bad happens to you

:idc:We've had this discussion. Seeing as you cant remember I'll refresh. Dealt with the police before and they were useless so I can assure you I'll be dialing them knowing they wont do f8ck all if anything happened to me.

[Kizzy]

yeah and you will be the first greeting on the phone for them if something bad happens to you

:idc:

That is irrelevant, are you suggesting that if you disagree with the way an officer conducts himself you should no longer feel that you have the right to use the police service... Oh, sorry we have a conservative govt at the moment don't we? I mean police 'force'.

[Niamh.]

Stay on topic please and stop getting personal

[GiRTh]

Stay on topic please and stop getting personal:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police hate is not just a public relations problem — it’s a survival problem

Why is blue so easy to hate?

Power Envy
Critics will immediately challenge the thought that an armed government agent can claim that they are labeled or treated unfairly. It is true that we hold positions of power, but a look at our subculture can show a lot of areas where we as individual police officers have a very confined position legally, culturally, and organizationally.

Any power that we do possess is that which we mediate and administer on behalf of others.

But many people are jealous of the power and inequity symbolized by the badge and gun.

Media Coverage
This is not a media-bashing statement. They can only report from the sources they find.

When events happen, even those that seem normal and neutral in our world, we are often not allowed to narrate or explain the event.

There’s no ‘Jesse Jackson’ stepping in to speak on behalf the police. We all know that raw video and angry relatives and activists without a police perspective is bad news for the cops.

Dedicated Hate Groups
The Internet trumpets hate for the police with a constant discordant presence. An Internet search for the word police plus corrupt, abuse, brutality, etc. will bring up not just random rants, but organized hate movements and lots of attorney advertisements.

These three thoughts are just the beginning of the cop hate issue. Without being antagonistic or divisive, our safety on the street and our survival in the courtroom is severely compromised by this prejudice. What can we do?

Encourage Advocacy
There are civic and faith groups that are supportive of law enforcement. Optimist International has had a respect for law effort since 1965.

One church in my area has a photo display of every law officer in the area (with their permission) for their members to remember in prayer. We should seek out opportunities to speak on the subject of anti-police sentiment in order to confront some common misunderstandings.

These presentations should be fact- and ethics-based, rather than the “I deserve respect because I’m out there with my life on the line every day.”

Other people have tough jobs, they don’t want to hear how rough it is in yours.

Make sure your prosecutor is tough on anti-police crime, too.

Preload Information to the Public
Citizens are fascinated with police work. If you give them information they can use, they’ll pay attention and absorb it.

Efforts like the Hollywood V. Reality video can be very helpful.

Getting the idea out that the offender chooses how police act is a theme that bears repeated emphasis. As the Department of Justice says so flippantly “citizens bear some of the responsibility for the nature of relations with the police.”

The idea that police shoot people unnecessarily is unfounded.

http://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety/articles/6274279-Why-are-cops-so-easy-to-hate/


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Some good points here and could explain why we keep getting these police hate videos on youtube like this one and the last one?

[Vicky.]

Some good points here and could explain why we keep getting these police hate videos on youtube like this one and the last one?

Or maybe *some* police just take the piss and go on a complete power trip, like the wanker in this video? And some people will never accept that police do occasionally do wrong so they feel the need to film it when it happens... Just a thought.

[GiRTh]

Maybe, maybe not... I can more or less guarantee that my job would be at serious risk if I spoke to someone like that and surely a police officer SHOULD be held to a higher standard than someone in a civilian job. I completely understand where the police force are coming from in their statement, to be honest. What he did makes it harder for good cops to do their job properly. His actions furthered the public impression that police officers are all on power trips and that they should be feared. This makes people not trust them, and makes it so much harder for the good, calm, respectful officers doing their jobs properly to gain anyone's trust too, and that surely makes all of their jobs harder every single day.

The thing that really says it all: the two in the back are backing the driver up when the guy goes away from the car,

Driver says "That's what I'm saying, to put his blinker on..."

Both guys in the back: "No, no, no, do not say anything, don't say anything, just Yes Sir, I'm Sorry Sir, and that's it."

They react straight away and make it very clear that the driver should absolutely not state his case, he should just apologize profusely and hope to god that the guy lets him go without the situation escalating further. They both have American accents, sound very much like New York citizens, and they absolutely do not trust that an NYPD police officer won't go bat**** and do something extreme if he doesn't throw himself to the ground and lick his boots.

Sums up the public perception of the police very well. Are all officers like that? No. So why do the public fear them? Because of arseholes like this guy throwing their weight around.


Maybe he had just seen an old lady getting knocked down by a car that pulled in to park without indicating and that's why he was so mad at the... Oh no, wait, it was him that did that.

Regardless, he is an officer of the law and he doesn't get to take out the horrific actions of random people on other people who had absolutely nothing to do with it. Not without facing some sort of disciplinary action. Should he lose his career? No, but I personally think a suspension and probably some sort of anger management / re-education on being respectful to members of the public would be entirely appropriate. .:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Or maybe *some* police just take the piss and go on a complete power trip, like the wanker in this video? And some people will never accept that police do occasionally do wrong so they feel the need to film it when it happens... Just a thought.

do you know how many police are in america?

[Vicky.]

do you know how many police are in america?

What difference does this make to anything?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What difference does this make to anything?

no i did not think so

[Vicky.]

no i did not think so

Again, what difference does it make how many police are in america?

[GiRTh]

do you know how many police are in america?Huh? :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

In 2008, state and local law enforcement agencies employed more than 1.1 million persons on a full-time basis, including about 765,000 sworn personnel (defined as those with general arrest powers). Agencies also employed approximately 100,000 part-time employees, including 44,000 sworn officers.

[GiRTh]

In 2008, state and local law enforcement agencies employed more than 1.1 million persons on a full-time basis, including about 765,000 sworn personnel (defined as those with general arrest powers). Agencies also employed approximately 100,000 part-time employees, including 44,000 sworn officers.:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:shrug:

same your opening post

a cop loses his cool in new york. so what?

that day 1,099,999 did not and helped keep the citizens of the USA safe doing a very difficult job.

so well done for pointing out that the Police in the USA do an amazing job


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[GiRTh]

same your opening post

a cop loses his cool in new york. so what?

that day 1,099,999 did not and helped keep the citizens of the USA safe doing a very difficult job.

so well done for pointing out that the Police in the USA do an amazing job


:thumbs:EUp4bDa9M3o
From March 19th 2015. He had a screwdriver in his hand.

So many cops did not lose their cool on thatday but we dont have to go too far to find plenty of examples of excessive force by police.

[GiRTh]

I think the comment ' Do we cuff him' speaks for itself.

Loads of vid just like this are available every week.

Forgot to mention the vid was very graphic.

[Tom4784]

same your opening post

a cop loses his cool in new york. so what?

that day 1,099,999 did not and helped keep the citizens of the USA safe doing a very difficult job.

so well done for pointing out that the Police in the USA do an amazing job


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What does this have to do with the thread? Whoopty doo, some police officers are capable of doing their jobs. It doesn't cancel out the cases of abuse of power like this one. This man should not be a police officer, he should not be in any public facing role if he can't remain professional when dealing with the said public.

[user104658]

What does this have to do with the thread? Whoopty doo, some police officers are capable of doing their jobs. It doesn't cancel out the cases of abuse of power like this one. This man should not be a police officer, he should not be in any public facing role if he can't remain professional when dealing with the said public.
Have to agree with this... It doesn't matter if EVERY other police officer is exemplary - that would be brilliant. It has absolutely no bearing at all on the actions of this individual. He doesn't get a free pass on account of many of his colleagues being good at the job. In fact like I said before, it's one of the reasons he absolutely should be held to account. Situations like this just make the job harder for the ones who ARE doing it right.