Glasgow : Missing Irish Student girl , 24 (Her Body now confirmed found)

[arista]

[Karen Buckley's handbag is found as police say she was last seen leaving a house in Glasgow in the early hours of Sunday.]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/4/14/384122/default/v3/11154902-1379672875694313-874552565908245398-o-1-762x428.jpg
[Karen Buckley, 24, was seen on CCTV early on Sunday morning
leaving the Sanctuary nightclub in the city's West End with the man.
Detective Superintendent Jim Kerr said officers had tracked down the man,
who has told police Ms Buckley left his home in Dorchester Avenue
at around 4am.

Ms Buckley has not been heard from since.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1464666/missing-student-left-mans-house-in-early-hours

[Cherie]

Why did she leave at 4am and why not take her home or call a taxi, no one should be roaming around at that hour on their own

[Cherie]

This girl is from Cork :sad:

[Niamh.]

This girl is from Cork :sad:

I know :(


Weird that she apparently told her friends she was going to the toilet but ended up disappearing with that man

[Crimson Dynamo]

hopefully she will turn up ok, its not been too long yet

[Niamh.]

hopefully she will turn up ok, its not been too long yet

The fact that her bag was found in a park doesn't look good though :/

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that her bag was found in a park doesn't look good though :/

yes it does not

[arista]

Why did she leave at 4am and why not take her home or call a taxi, no one should be roaming around at that hour on their own


Maybe she was due to meet someone?

[Cherie]

Maybe she was due to meet someone?

Maybe, decisions like this can be the fine line between life and death

[andybigbro]

I hope she is found safe and sound.
It's scary to think that this happens so close to home.

I can't imagine anyone leavinn their jacket in the club if they were going to meet someone. I think the guy seems dodgy but apparently police say he isn't a suspect :conf2:

[arista]

Maybe, decisions like this can be the fine line between life and death


Yes I agree

[Cherie]

He drove her back to his place why not drive her home, especially when she had no coat, wouldn't be surprised if he is requestioned

[smudgie]

Every parents nightmare, I hope she is found safe.

I dare say the police will keep an eye on the man in question.

[Niamh.]

He drove her back to his place why not drive her home, especially when she had no coat, wouldn't be surprised if he is requestioned


Yeah seems quite dodgy that she'd tell her friends that she was going to the loo and just take off with some guy. Why not say good bye to them?

[Kizzy]

:( I really hope she turns up safe and sound.

[Vanessa]

It does look really worrying. :sad:

[carlyxmx]

So why did this guy she had "a sexual encounter" with at his flat have to be traced by police and did not come forward initially. Defo doesn't look good. This was headline news in his area by Monday morning!

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

[kirklancaster]

So why did this guy she had "a sexual encounter" with at his flat have to be traced by police and did not come forward initially. Defo doesn't look good. This was headline news in his area by Monday morning!

I agree. My thoughts exactly. Hope I'm wrong.

[carlyxmx]

I hope your wrong too! :0)

[Vanessa]

I've done this myself so many times in the past. When you don't know the person it's always a risk. But when you're young you just don't realize it. :(

[Ammi]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-32300986


...heartbreaking ..I can't even begin to imagine the pain they're going through...

[Niamh.]

So why did this guy she had "a sexual encounter" with at his flat have to be traced by police and did not come forward initially. Defo doesn't look good. This was headline news in his area by Monday morning!

It just said on the news that he's not a suspect and he did come forward himself

[rubymoo]

I really hope they find her, but can't help thinking the man she went with knows more than he's letting on.

[Niamh.]

I really hope they find her, but can't help thinking the man she went with knows more than he's letting on.

The weirdest thing about it is that she'd leave the club without telling her friends or going back for her jacket.

[arista]

There must be more Info
by now

Its to long to go missing

[arista]

I've done this myself so many times in the past. When you don't know the person it's always a risk. But when you're young you just don't realize it. :(


sadly true

[rubymoo]

The weirdest thing about it is that she'd leave the club without telling her friends or going back for her jacket.

I know....it just doesn't make sense:shrug:

I would never go off without telling friends where i'm going and who i'm going with (but having met hubby when 15 i never went off with anyone!), but then also i have walked home at silly times in the morning and in my experience there's generally no-one around, and i come from quite a busy little town.

[Ninastar]

I've done this myself so many times in the past. When you don't know the person it's always a risk. But when you're young you just don't realize it. :(

Without being mean, this lady is 24 (3 years older than me) and she should know not to go off with a random person she's just met and not tell her friends about it

I get the feeling there's more going on than what's being said... but god knows what that could be

[Niamh.]

Without being mean, this lady is 24 (3 years older than me) and she should know not to go off with a random person she's just met and not tell her friends about it

I get the feeling there's more going on than what's being said... but god knows what that could be

mmmm I agree, who tells their friends their going to the toilet and just disappears with someone, leaving their coat behind? It's strange

[Vanessa]

Without being mean, this lady is 24 (3 years older than me) and she should know not to go off with a random person she's just met and not tell her friends about it

I get the feeling there's more going on than what's being said... but god knows what that could be

I agree there must be more to this story.

[Kizzy]

I hope I'm wrong but with that scenario it sounds like she was spiked and led off.

[Niamh.]

I hope I'm wrong but with that scenario it sounds like she was spiked and led off.

It does sound a bit like that, that guy could have just sent her off into the night at 4am then and she could have been completely disorientated? (alot of speculation I know, her leaving the club like that just seems .....weird?)

[Vanessa]

I hope I'm wrong but with that scenario it sounds like she was spiked and led off.

:sad:

[Cherie]

The last sighting was her leaving the Club, if she did leave his home and start walking in some direction, she should have been picked up at some stage I would have thought, the spiking theory is plausible as what she did was out of character, poor girl I can't see this ending well.

[AnnieK]

It does sound a bit like that, that guy could have just sent her off into the night at 4am then and she could have been completely disorientated? (alot of speculation I know, her leaving the club like that just seems .....weird?)

Or she could have been drunk and horny (urg hate that word), met a guy, fancied him, left in a rush, went to his, sobered up a bit at 4am and realised that it was not where she wanted to be and left. It doesn't explain why she didn't tell her friends but people do irrational and out of character things when drunk. It also doesn't explain where she is now which is the worrying part but the Police can't just concentrate on him as he could well be an innocent party in all this who shouldn't have let a female leave his house alone at that time in the morning but doesn't mean he has done anything really untoward and the Police must be satisfied with his story at this stage.

[Niamh.]

Or she could have been drunk and horny (urg hate that word), met a guy, fancied him, left in a rush, went to his, sobered up a bit at 4am and realised that it was not where she wanted to be and left. It doesn't explain why she didn't tell her friends but people do irrational and out of character things when drunk. It also doesn't explain where she is now which is the worrying part but the Police can't just concentrate on him as he could well be an innocent party in all this who shouldn't have let a female leave his house alone at that time in the morning but doesn't mean he has done anything really untoward and the Police must be satisfied with his story at this stage.

Yeah I get that she could have been drunk and horny, it just seems a weird way to leave with someone, possible of course but it seems strange, I mean you'd have to be really really drunk imo to tell your friends you were going to the toilet and just disappear with a stranger instead but of course it's possible. I'm only speculating

[Cherie]

Her friends say she didn't appear to be drunk

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/15/08/2795BA2D00000578-3039423-Alexander_Pacteau-m-3_1429081466305.jpg
Alexander Pacteau spent the night with student Karen Buckley. She went missing after leaving his flat

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3039423/Man-went-home-missing-Glasgow-student-hours-vanished.html#ixzz3XNKdEV5O

[Cherie]

'She left his property at four o'clock in the morning and she was seen by other witnesses, not Alexander. So he is not a suspect.'
Miss Buckley, who is brunette and 5ft 2in, was wearing a black jumpsuit and red heels when she was last seen leaving Mr Pacteau's flat in Kelvindale at around 4am.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3039423/Man-went-home-missing-Glasgow-student-hours-vanished.html#ixzz3XNLWHzho
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Fair enough if there were witnesses to her leaving the flat.

[Vanessa]

Walking alone at night at 4 am is not a good idea. Why not call a cab or someone to pick her up? :conf:

[Ammi]

..thing is, if she was that drunk/her drink spiked...would she have even been in a state to inform her friends that she was going to the loo...


..the police are looking for someone in a car seen in that area and through the nights for several days I think though...

[Ammi]

Walking alone at night at 4 am is not a good idea. Why not call a cab or someone to pick her up? :conf:

..her parents said that she didn't trust taxis late at night..I know/irony...

[Vanessa]

..thing is, if she was that drunk/her drink spiked...would she have even been in a state to inform her friends that she was going to the loo...


..the police are looking for someone in a car seen in that area and through the nights for several days I think though...

A lot in this story doesn't make sense. :suspect:

[arista]

..her parents said that she didn't trust taxis late at night..I know/irony...


Thats fair enough

[rubymoo]

I hope I'm wrong but with that scenario it sounds like she was spiked and led off.

I was thinking the same:(

[Vanessa]

..her parents said that she didn't trust taxis late at night..I know/irony...

I would rather take a taxi than walk alone at night. Even at 11 pm i get scared. D:

[rubymoo]

I would rather take a taxi than walk alone at night. Even at 11 pm i get scared. D:

I've walked home late at night, the one thing i've always done is take my shoes off, so i'm as quiet as a cat, i envisage Arch Angel Michael with me and surround myself in a blue bubble, that way i'm protected!

(This is true!)

[Crimson Dynamo]

BREAKING: Officers carrying out fingertip search of garden at man's flat

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5522433.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/Karen-Buckley.jpg

Specialist officers have just returned to the block of flats where Alexander Pacteau says he brought Kare home.

Nine officers dressed in black have arrived outside the taped off block at Dorchester Avenue where a lone officer stands guard.

They are equipped with long sticks to aid a fingertip search of the area inside and outside the address.

Officers have split into teams and are now beginning to search the communal front and back gardens in Dorchester Avenue.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/karen-buckley-live-updates-police-5522206

[Ammi]

BREAKING: Officers carrying out fingertip search of garden at man's flat

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5522433.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/Karen-Buckley.jpg

Specialist officers have just returned to the block of flats where Alexander Pacteau says he brought Kare home.

Nine officers dressed in black have arrived outside the taped off block at Dorchester Avenue where a lone officer stands guard.

They are equipped with long sticks to aid a fingertip search of the area inside and outside the address.

Officers have split into teams and are now beginning to search the communal front and back gardens in Dorchester Avenue.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/karen-buckley-live-updates-police-5522206

..they have stressed though that he's not a suspect atm and are searching all the gardens surrounding the flats plus the park where her bag was found...

[Crimson Dynamo]

..they have stressed though that he's not a suspect atm and are searching all the gardens surrounding the flats plus the park where her bag was found...

I very much doubt he is not being fully investigated

[Vanessa]

..they have stressed though that he's not a suspect atm and are searching all the gardens surrounding the flats plus the park where her bag was found...

I wouldn't rule him out though.

[Ammi]

...hmmm, the other odd phrasing in the police statements was that the guy whose flat she went to had 'believed consensual sex had taken place..'....

[Crimson Dynamo]

why would she shag him?

[MTVN]

Or she could have been drunk and horny (urg hate that word), met a guy, fancied him, left in a rush, went to his, sobered up a bit at 4am and realised that it was not where she wanted to be and left. It doesn't explain why she didn't tell her friends but people do irrational and out of character things when drunk. It also doesn't explain where she is now which is the worrying part but the Police can't just concentrate on him as he could well be an innocent party in all this who shouldn't have let a female leave his house alone at that time in the morning but doesn't mean he has done anything really untoward and the Police must be satisfied with his story at this stage.

I agree with this, if the police are saying categorically that he is not a suspect then we have to accept they have good reason to be confident in that. Seems a bit unfair to plaster his full name and pic everywhere considering.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I agree with this, if the police are saying categorically that he is not a suspect then we have to accept they have good reason to be confident in that. Seems a bit unfair to plaster his full name and pic everywhere considering.

that's 2015 for you

[Ammi]

I agree with this, if the police are saying categorically that he is not a suspect then we have to accept they have good reason to be confident in that. Seems a bit unfair to plaster his full name and pic everywhere considering.

..also, I didn't realise that they were allowed to name him unless he was a suspect...

[Crimson Dynamo]

1.07pm update: Police have cordoned of an area around a bin outside Dawsholm Park in Glasgow in the search for missing student

[Vanessa]

D:

[rubymoo]

This isn't looking good:(

[arista]

1.07pm update: Police have cordoned of an area around a bin outside Dawsholm Park in Glasgow in the search for missing student


I hope they get who ever did this

[Ammi]

Police investigating the disappearance of student Karen Buckley in Glasgow are searching a park where her handbag was found.


Police divers, a helicopter crew and search dogs have been deployed to Dawsholm Park, which is bordered on one side by the River Kelvin.

The 24-year-old vanished in the early hours of Sunday after spending Saturday night with friends at Glasgow's Sanctuary nightclub on Dumbarton Road.

She told them at around 1am she was going to the toilet, but failed to return and left her jacket behind.

CCTV spotted her leaving the club with 21-year-old Alexander Pacteau, who then drove her to his flat.

Mr Pacteau is not a suspect, but communal areas outside his flat in Dorchester Avenue have been taped off while officers look for clues.

He told officers she left at 4am. It is believed she was planning to walk back to her flat four miles away in Hill Street.


http://news.sky.com/story/1465156/police-divers-join-search-for-missing-student

[Cherie]

Police investigating the disappearance of student Karen Buckley in Glasgow are searching a park where her handbag was found.


Police divers, a helicopter crew and search dogs have been deployed to Dawsholm Park, which is bordered on one side by the River Kelvin.

The 24-year-old vanished in the early hours of Sunday after spending Saturday night with friends at Glasgow's Sanctuary nightclub on Dumbarton Road.

She told them at around 1am she was going to the toilet, but failed to return and left her jacket behind.

CCTV spotted her leaving the club with 21-year-old Alexander Pacteau, who then drove her to his flat.

Mr Pacteau is not a suspect, but communal areas outside his flat in Dorchester Avenue have been taped off while officers look for clues.

He told officers she left at 4am. It is believed she was planning to walk back to her flat four miles away in Hill Street.


http://news.sky.com/story/1465156/police-divers-join-search-for-missing-student


4 miles in high heeled shoes! what a gent

[lime]

4 miles in high heeled shoes! what a gent

Plus she had no jacket and it was raining...not looking good for this poor girl

[Crimson Dynamo]

4:25 pm
Officers seen leaving flat with bags and boxes

Forensic officers carrying boxes and black bags have left a property in Dorchester Avenue, the street at the centre of the search for the missing Irish student.

The hunt for Karen Buckley is focusing on Dawsholm Park in the north-west of Glasgow and a nearby flat in Dorchester Avenue where the 24-year-old was last seen.

Two officers in forensic suits entered the flat and are searching an area to the rear which has been cordoned off. Members of the search team were pictured carrying spades.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/4/15/384399/default/v2/469774494-1-800x600.jpg
it looks like we will soon find out more

[rubymoo]

This is terrible, her family's heart must be breaking:(

[Z]

The Sanctuary nightclub is literally a 10 min walk from my flat, it's a bit of a dive, wouldn't ever go back there again. Really feel for this girl, it's not looking good and have to assume that some harm has come to her but I hope they find her soon... Seems a bit unfair to name the guy she had a one night stand with like that, seeing as he's not a suspect at this stage...

[arista]

The Sanctuary nightclub is literally a 10 min walk from my flat, it's a bit of a dive, wouldn't ever go back there again. Really feel for this girl, it's not looking good and have to assume that some harm has come to her but I hope they find her soon... Seems a bit unfair to name the guy she had a one night stand with like that, seeing as he's not a suspect at this stage...

But on SkyNewsHD
they are fast to say that first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a hunt for a body

[Niamh.]

Its a hunt for a body

Looks that way :(

[Z]

Tbh I've bailed on friends on a night out before and done the "going to the toilet" trick and never come back but I'd never leave my jacket...

[Firewire]

she goes to my uni, got an email about it today. very concerning.

[Z]

Plus she'd only been in Glasgow since February apparently? So surely didn't know the people she was out with too well

[Z]

Probably just thought nah sack this I'm getting my hole and bailed to the smoker's area

[Crimson Dynamo]

Probably just thought nah sack this I'm getting my hole and bailed to the smoker's area

yes but have you seen the guy? :umm2:

hardly worth losing your coat for

[arista]

Plus she'd only been in Glasgow since February apparently? So surely didn't know the people she was out with too well


Yes if only she would trust a taxi driver
you need a Female Taxi Driver Service

[Firewire]

Probably just thought nah sack this I'm getting my hole and bailed to the smoker's area

omg

[Z]

yes but have you seen the guy? :umm2:

hardly worth losing your coat for

Which is point 1 of 3 why I don't believe the assertion of her friends that she "wasn't drunk" - one, she pulled a total minger; two, she left her coat in the club; three, she presumably woke up at 4am still pissed, didn't recognise where she was and adamantly walked out of his flat not waiting around for a cab or whatever.

Yes if only she would trust a taxi driver
you need a Female Taxi Driver Service

The Black Cab service in Glasgow is pretty trustworthy.

omg

Well! The police have implied as much, she went back to the guy's flat and was "intimate" with her; and she told her friends she was going to the toilet and never came back. You know who else went to the toilet and never came back? Siobhan Donaghy - told the Sugababes management she was going to the toilet and didn't come back for ten years :hmph:

[Firewire]

Well! The police have implied as much, she went back to the guy's flat and was "intimate" with her; and she told her friends she was going to the toilet and never came back. You know who else went to the toilet and never came back? Siobhan Donaghy - told the Sugababes management she was going to the toilet and didn't come back for ten years :hmph:

LMAO

[arista]

"The Black Cab service in Glasgow is pretty trustworthy."

Yes but male drivers.

Why not have Women drivers?
for women to use

[Cherie]

Which is point 1 of 3 why I don't believe the assertion of her friends that she "wasn't drunk" - one, she pulled a total minger; two, she left her coat in the club; three, she presumably woke up at 4am still pissed, didn't recognise where she was and adamantly walked out of his flat not waiting around for a cab or whatever.



The Black Cab service in Glasgow is pretty trustworthy.



Well! The police have implied as much, she went back to the guy's flat and was "intimate" with her; and she told her friends she was going to the toilet and never came back. You know who else went to the toilet and never came back? Siobhan Donaghy - told the Sugababes management she was going to the toilet and didn't come back for ten years :hmph:


You are probably right about her being drunk, she got into a car with a stranger yet won't use cabs, doesn't make any sense

[Josy]

21year old man detained in connection with her disappearance

[Cherie]

21year old man detained in connection with her disappearance

Oh ..

[Niamh.]

Looks like Kizzys theory may be right then

[arista]

21year old man detained in connection with her disappearance


Yes just heard Live on Ch4HD News


I hope he tells the Police everything

[Josy]

Police investigating the disappearance of an Irish student in Glasgow have detained a 21 year-old man, BBC Scotland understands.

Karen Buckley, 24, from Cork, was last seen leaving the Sanctuary nightclub with a man in the early hours of Sunday.

Police Scotland confirmed officers are following a "definite line of inquiry".

High Craigton Farm near Milngavie has also been cordoned off as part of the investigation.

Officers have been searching Dawsholm Park, where Miss Buckley's bag was discovered on Tuesday.

Miss Buckley arrived at the Sanctuary nightclub with friends at about 23:45 on Saturday and at about 01:00 she told them she was going to the toilet. She failed to return and did not take her jacket.

Her friends have said Miss Buckley had had a few drinks, but was not drunk.


.

[AnnieK]

Looks like Kizzys theory may right then

Certainly looking that way.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

my suspicions were correct it seems

:suspect:

[Firewire]

why are they suspicious of Milngavie?

[Firewire]

oh her bag was found it lit said

[Josy]

oh her bag was found it lit said

Her bag was found in Dawsholm Park Kelvindale I think

Not sure why the search of the farm in Milngavie but it doesn't sound good does it.

[Firewire]

Her bag was found in Dawsholm Park Kelvindale I think

Not sure why the search of the farm in Milngavie but it doesn't sound good does it.

not really and Milngavie isn't too far from where I am. Normally when students go missing on nights they show up by now. I'm praying that she is found safe and well

[Crimson Dynamo]

not really and Milngavie isn't too far from where I am. Normally when students go missing on nights they show up by now. I'm praying that she is found safe and well

no she is dead

[Firewire]

have they found a body?

[Crimson Dynamo]

have they found a body?

its a matter of time, sadly

[Livia]

Hope they get the right person... Because I remember this poor bugger:

http://swns.com/wp-content/themes/wp-clear/scripts/timthumb.php?src=http://swns.com/images/stories/chrisjefferies/chrisjefferies1.jpg&w=450&h=295&zc=1

[Niamh.]

Hope they get the right person... Because I remember this poor bugger:



http://swns.com/wp-content/themes/wp-clear/scripts/timthumb.php?src=http://swns.com/images/stories/chrisjefferies/chrisjefferies1.jpg&w=450&h=295&zc=1


What was that?

[Ninastar]

^ Claudia Lawrences disapperance, I believe

[Josy]

In December 2010, Christopher Jefferies was arrested for the murder of landscape architect Jo Yeates and vilified by the press

[Ninastar]

i was mistaken

[Ammi]

Human remains have been found on a farm north of Glasgow by officers searching for missing student Karen Buckley.

Formal identification has yet to take place but police believe they may be those of the missing 24-year-old.

Her relatives have been informed of the discovery on the outskirts of Milngavie.

Ms Buckley was last seen in the early hours of Sunday morning after a night out in Glasgow.

A 21-year-old man, believed to be Alexander Pacteau, was earlier detained by officers and police said they were "following a definite line of enquiry".

The student, from Cork in Ireland, vanished in the early hours of Sunday after spending the night with friends at Glasgow's Sanctuary nightclub on Dumbarton Road.

She told them at around 1am she was going to the toilet, but failed to return and left her jacket behind.


CCTV spotted the 24-year-old leaving the club with Mr Pacteau, who then drove her to his flat two miles away in Dorchester Avenue.

He told officers Ms Buckley left at 4am after they had had consensual sex.

Ms Buckley, who began an occupational therapy degree at Glasgow Caledonian University in February, and was previously a nurse at the Princess Alexandria hospital in Harlow, Essex, has not been seen since.


Her parents flew from their home in Cork to help with the search.

Dozens of officers have been searching a remote country lane between Glasgow and Drymen. The road to a farm there - High Craigton Farm - has been cordoned off.

A helicopter was seen circling over woodland and police on scrambler bikes have been searching the area.

Officers have also been asking residents whether they had seen any bonfires there over the past few days.

Police previously asked for information about a grey car spotted in the area between 11am and 3pm on Monday

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1465833/karen-buckley-search-police-find-remains

sad news Ammi.

[Mokka]

Dammit...

worse case scenario happened...
it's tragic

[Ammi]

http://news.sky.com/story/1465833/karen-buckley-search-police-find-remains

sad news Ammi.

..so sad, the worst possible thing a parent could imagine, how they must be feeling right now is beyond comprehension...

[Ammi]

..this is just so hard to get out of your thoughts, they're talking about remains as opposed to a body and enquiring about bonfires with surrounding neighbours..and her parents will be there now and having to face it all....

[Josy]

Had a feeling we would wake to news like this. Very sad, and I feel terrible for her poor parents.

[Josy]

He is to appear at a private hearing at Glasgow Sheriff Court on Friday.

[AnnieK]

Terrible news....can't even imagine how her family and friends must be feeling

[GypsyGoth]

How awful :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

No surprise really. Poor parents have to identify the body, what a job.

[Vanessa]

I had the feeling that something awful had happened. :sad:

[Nedusa]

It's not confirmed yet that this is the body of that girl... There might still be some hope.

[Kizzy]

What a nightmare scenario :(

[Cherie]

RIP Karen, feel so bad for her parents having to go through this is bad enough but so far away from their family and friends.

[Cherie]

Was this something he and someone else planned, who corroborated his story that she left at 4am

[arista]

Was this something he and someone else planned, who corroborated his story that she left at 4am


who is he?

[Crimson Dynamo]

who is he?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/15/08/2795BA2D00000578-3039423-Alexander_Pacteau-m-3_1429081466305.jpg

[Niamh.]

Poor girl RIP to her :(

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/15/08/2795BA2D00000578-3039423-Alexander_Pacteau-m-3_1429081466305.jpg


But the Police let him go

[Vanessa]

But the Police let him go

I think he's involved for sure.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But the Police let him go

He has now been detained by police.

[Niamh.]

But the Police let him go

He's been arrested

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/karen-buckley-missing-man-aged-5527123

[Vanessa]

:(

[Crimson Dynamo]

It would seem that earlier reports she was seen leaving at 4 am alone have proved incorrect?

Perhaps he planted the handbag in the park as a decoy?

[Vanessa]

It would seem that earlier reports she was seen leaving at 4 am alone have proved incorrect?

Perhaps he planted the handbag in the park as a decoy?

Possibly. A lot in this story doesn't make sense.

[Niamh.]

It would seem that earlier reports she was seen leaving at 4 am alone have proved incorrect?

Perhaps he planted the handbag in the park as a decoy?

Looks like it, I heard originally that this guy came forward himself and then apparently he didn't, police had found him

[Vanessa]

Also, why did she not take her coat before leaving the club? Why lie to her friends about where she was going? :conf:

[Niamh.]

Also, why did she not take her coat before leaving the club? Why lie to her friends about where she was going? :conf:

I think the spiking theory could be a possibility

[Vanessa]

I think the spiking theory could be a possibility

That makes more sense.

[Nedusa]

It would seem that earlier reports she was seen leaving at 4 am alone have proved incorrect?

Perhaps he planted the handbag in the park as a decoy?

Wonder if he was really thinking straight, his movements would have been captured on numerous CCTv cameras and his story to police about her leaving at 4am could also be checked by CCTv.

He probably thought he could concoct a story about her leaving and hope that would satisfy everyone.

Sad reality is she probably never left his flat alive, more likely hidden in something and driven off to a remote location for disposal with the bag planted miles away from his flat to give the impression she did in fact leave.

But as I said his car would have been picked up by said cameras and tracked to wherever. He will probably end up making a full confession saying it was accidental death or self defence or some other reason, but then he panicked.

None of this will work and a murder conviction will probably result.

Poor Girl, so sad for her and her family.......

[Vanessa]

This is why you never accept a drink from a stranger ever. I'll buy my own drinks, thanks. :nono:

[Niamh.]

Wonder if he was really thinking straight, his movements would have been captured on numerous CCTv cameras and his story to police about her leaving at 4am could also be checked by CCTv.

He probably thought he could concoct a story about her leaving and hope that would satisfy everyone.

Sad reality is she probably never left his flat alive, more likely hidden in something and driven off to a remote location for disposal with the bag planted miles away from his flat to give the impression she did in fact leave.

But as I said his car would have been picked up by said cameras and tracked to wherever. He will probably end up making a full confession saying it was accidental death or self defence or some other reason, but then he panicked.

None of this will work and a murder conviction will probably result.

Poor Girl, so sad for her and her family.......

Well if he did move her body in his car that should be very easy to prove

[arista]

He's been arrested

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/karen-buckley-missing-man-aged-5527123


OK

[Cherie]

Wonder if he was really thinking straight, his movements would have been captured on numerous CCTv cameras and his story to police about her leaving at 4am could also be checked by CCTv.

He probably thought he could concoct a story about her leaving and hope that would satisfy everyone.

Sad reality is she probably never left his flat alive, more likely hidden in something and driven off to a remote location for disposal with the bag planted miles away from his flat to give the impression she did in fact leave.

But as I said his car would have been picked up by said cameras and tracked to wherever. He will probably end up making a full confession saying it was accidental death or self defence or some other reason, but then he panicked.

None of this will work and a murder conviction will probably result.

Poor Girl, so sad for her and her family.......


It will be something along these lines

[arista]

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5527031.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/karen-buckley-main.jpg
If only she trusted the Taxi service.

[Vanessa]

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5527031.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/karen-buckley-main.jpg
If only she trusted the Taxi service.

If she was spiked she never had a chance. :(

[Niamh.]

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5527031.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/karen-buckley-main.jpg
If only she trusted the Taxi service.

Doesn't look like her not getting a cab was actually the problem Arista, if this man did it she probably never left his flat alive

[arista]

If she was spiked she never had a chance. :(


Thats Evil
was she raped?

[Vanessa]

Thats Evil
was she raped?

I think so, but we will know more soon. :sad:

[arista]

Doesn't look like her not getting a cab was actually the problem Arista, if this man did it she probably never left his flat alive


Evil.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police now confirm that body is the girl.

[Niamh.]

:(

[Vanessa]

:sad::bawling:

[Ninastar]

This is tragic. Poor girl, R.I.P

[Cherie]

This guy was in court this morning, did he plead guilty?

[Niamh.]

This guy was in court this morning, did he plead guilty?

I just keep hearing he's due in court today but nothing new :shrug:

[Firewire]

Press have been all over campus today, loads of flowers have been laid

[Niamh.]

Alexander Pacteau (21) charged with murder of Karen Buckley
Accused made no plea at the Glasgow court and was remanded in custody

Alexander Pacteau (21) has been charged with the murder of Irish student Karen Buckley and attempting to defeat the ends of justice at a court in Glasgow today.
Mr Pacteau made no plea or declaration at court and was remanded in custody following the private hearing.
He will appear in court next week for a full committal hearing.
Scotland police confirmed a body found on High Craigton Farm outside the city this week was that of the missing Cork nurse.
A major police search was launched when Ms Buckley (24), vanished after a night out in Glasgow last weekend.
The Crown Office in Glasgow has confirmed on Friday it had received a report from the police into the death of Ms Buckley.
Under Scottish law, police send a report to the Procurator Fiscal – the Scottish equivalent of the Director of Public Prosecution – and the Procurator Fiscal then decides on whether to bring charges against the person.
A spokesman for the Crown Office issued a statement in relation to the case, which saw a 21-year-old man arrested on Thursday morning by police investigating Ms Buckley’s disappearance and death.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/alexander-pacteau-21-charged-with-murder-of-karen-buckley-1.2179694

[Crimson Dynamo]

Once the autopsy is done they will find out if he date raped her

[Niamh.]

Once the autopsy is done they will find out if he date raped her

I'm interested to know if that apparent sighting of her by someone else after 4am was true or just a rumour?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm interested to know if that apparent sighting of her by someone else after 4am was true or just a rumour?

That could be a deliberate police rouse to make the perp do something or say something that incriminated himself. The detectives would have pretty much sussed this clown from the off.

[Niamh.]

That could be a deliberate police rouse to make the perp do something or say something that incriminated himself. The detectives would have pretty much sussed this clown from the off.

ah maybe so yeah

[Cherie]

That could be a deliberate police rouse to make the perp do something or say something that incriminated himself. The detectives would have pretty much sussed this clown from the off.

Yes I agree the not a suspect tag was a ruse, given there was no mention of Karen being caught on CCTV after 4am

[Cherie]

Press have been all over campus today, loads of flowers have been laid

Must feel a bit weird but it's nice that people are paying their respects

[Vicky.]

If she was drugged, surely her friends would have noticed something was up, even if she did just say she was going to the loo. I have been spiked before and it was clearly obvious, as it has been when friends have been too :S

[Vanessa]

If she was drugged, surely her friends would have noticed something was up, even if she did just say she was going to the loo. I have been spiked before and it was clearly obvious, as it has been when friends have been too :S

I hope the autopsy will shed the light to this case. At the moment it's a mystery. We have no idea what happened. :(

[Z]

I'm absolutely heartbroken for this girl and her loved ones. The club is round the corner from my flat - and last night I went up to Loch Lomond and we unintentionally drove past the farm where the police found her body, saw it all cordoned off and flowers laid down on the grass... properly burst into tears, just makes me so sad that the poor girl had only been here for a couple of months, probably went to the toilet and maybe went to the smoking area outside on Dumbarton Road for fresh air/a cigarette, got approached by this guy and for whatever reason decided to go off with him and that was it...

If Alexander Pacteau did kill her, I hope they send him down for life and he never sees freedom again. What a wicked thing to do.

[Vanessa]

I'm absolutely heartbroken for this girl and her loved ones. The club is round the corner from my flat - and last night I went up to Loch Lomond and we unintentionally drove past the farm where the police found her body, saw it all cordoned off and flowers laid down on the grass... properly burst into tears, just makes me so sad that the poor girl had only been here for a couple of months, probably went to the toilet and maybe went to the smoking area outside on Dumbarton Road for fresh air/a cigarette, got approached by this guy and for whatever reason decided to go off with him and that was it...

If Alexander Pacteau did kill her, I hope they send him down for life and he never sees freedom again. What a wicked thing to do.

You can't trust anyone these days.

[Crimson Dynamo]

when is is convicted i wish they would just take him into a car park and shoot him in the back of the head. It would save so much money and would help the family to grieve properly.

[arista]

Karen Buckley Death: Man Charged With Murder

http://news.sky.com/story/1467061/karen-buckley-death-man-charged-with-murder

[Cherie]

If she was drugged, surely her friends would have noticed something was up, even if she did just say she was going to the loo. I have been spiked before and it was clearly obvious, as it has been when friends have been too :S

True, maybe she knew him and agreed to go with him but fully intended to return to the Club.

[Livia]

when is is convicted i wish they would just take him into a car park and shoot him in the back of the head. It would save so much money and would help the family to grieve properly.

When I take over the country I'm making you my Minister of Justice.

[Niamh.]

Well done to the Police in Glasgow though, obviously nothing is going to make her parents feel any better right now but atleast they found her body and have this guy arrested so quickly.

[MTVN]

Would the police be allowed to publicly say he wasn't a suspect though if he was :shrug: He had his Mum really confidently defending him because of that and next thing she knows her son is a murderer :/

[Niamh.]

Would the police be allowed to publicly say he wasn't a suspect though if he was :shrug: He had his Mum really confidently defending him because of that and next thing she knows her son is a murderer :/


Maybe he wasn't a suspect at that time? I don't know, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be allowed say he wasn't a suspect even if he was

[MTVN]

Maybe he wasn't a suspect at that time? I don't know, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be allowed say he wasn't a suspect even if he was

Yeah I don't think it'd be a ruse, just seems bizarre for them to be saying confidently that he's not a suspect one minute and then arresting and charging him the next

[Vanessa]

Yeah I don't think it'd be a ruse, just seems bizarre for them to be saying confidently that he's not a suspect one minute and then arresting and charging him the next

Maybe they found evidence that he's the killer?

[MTVN]

I'm sure they did but they must have had some reason to say he wasn't a suspect in the first place, surely when someone goes missing like this the person she was last with is automatically suspect no. 1 unless they have a very strong alibi

[Vanessa]

I'm sure they did but they must have had some reason to say he wasn't a suspect in the first place, surely when someone goes missing like this the person she was last with is automatically suspect no. 1 unless they have a very strong alibi

I know, it doesn't make any sense.

[Cherie]

I'm sure they did but they must have had some reason to say he wasn't a suspect in the first place, surely when someone goes missing like this the person she was last with is automatically suspect no. 1 unless they have a very strong alibi

Apparently someone saw her leaving the flat, maybe she left and he followed her :shrug:

[Vanessa]

Apparently someone saw her leaving the flat, maybe she left and he followed her :shrug:

this is possible. :sad:

[Z]

It's a pretty well known police tactic to trick the perpetrator into thinking they're totally off the mark so they incriminate themselves. Probably just said he wasn't a suspect because they wanted to investigate him more thoroughly as they didn't have enough evidence to arrest him despite being sure he was guilty; stop him from doing a runner.

[Crimson Dynamo]

KAREN Buckley’s alleged killer clubbed her with a spanner, strangled her and dumped her in a barrel of “corrosive” substances, it was claimed yesterday.


http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/6416614/Hit-with-spanner-strangled-dumped-in-a-barrel.html

[Vanessa]

:eek:

[Niamh.]

KAREN Buckley’s alleged killer clubbed her with a spanner, strangled her and dumped her in a barrel of “corrosive” substances, it was claimed yesterday.


http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/6416614/Hit-with-spanner-strangled-dumped-in-a-barrel.html


Jesus :/ that poor girl

[kirklancaster]

FFS - :shrug:

[Kizzy]

Good god! That poor girl, what a monster!

[Niamh.]

Sentence handed out for this :

Pacteau sentenced to 23 years for Karen Buckley's murder

The man who murdered Irish student Karen Buckley in Glasgow earlier this year has been sentenced to life in prison and ordered to serve a minimum of 23 years.

The judge called Alexander Pacteau a "callous and calculating man" and he only expressed remorse for the first time after he pleaded guilty on 11 August.

Judge Lady Rae said Pacteau's conduct after the killing "succeeded only in adding more pain and suffering onto the Buckley family."

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0908/726373-karen-buckley/

[Kazanne]

Sentence handed out for this :

Pacteau sentenced to 23 years for Karen Buckley's murder

The man who murdered Irish student Karen Buckley in Glasgow earlier this year has been sentenced to life in prison and ordered to serve a minimum of 23 years.

The judge called Alexander Pacteau a "callous and calculating man" and he only expressed remorse for the first time after he pleaded guilty on 11 August.

Judge Lady Rae said Pacteau's conduct after the killing "succeeded only in adding more pain and suffering onto the Buckley family."

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0908/726373-karen-buckley/

The sentence is a joke,he should have got life,the British Judicial system is a bloody pathetic, he will probably be out in half of that, even if he's not,he wont do life I doubt.

[Niamh.]

The sentence is a joke,he should have got life,the British Judicial system is a bloody pathetic, he will probably be out in half of that, even if he's not,he wont do life I doubt.

No, I listened to the sentencing today he got life and has to serve a minimum of 23 years which I think is the maximum the judge could have given him. But I agree life should mean life, I mean even after 23 years that monster is still only going to be 44 or something

[rubymoo]

Terrible....just terrible....if only she hadn't gone with him, her family must be devastated, it's for reasons like this the death penalty should be brought back in....

I'm always curious as to know why someone would do something like this.....i guess the answer is because he's a monster.....

[Niamh.]

I know Ruby, there seems to be no motive at all for him doing it. It's scary that there are such evil people in the world

[Kazanne]

No, I listened to the sentencing today he got life and has to serve a minimum of 23 years which I think is the maximum the judge could have given him. But I agree life should mean life, I mean even after 23 years that monster is still only going to be 44 or something

Oh right Niamh,my mistake,but as you said he'll be out at some point , whereas he really should rot in jail and come out feet first in a wooden overcoat.