150,000-Year-Old Pipes Baffle Scientists in China

[Niamh.]

Aliens?

http://i.imgur.com/mKNwf9P.jpg

Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that seem to show a level of technological advancement incongruous with the times in which they were made. Ooparts often frustrate conventional scientists, delight adventurous investigators open to alternative theories, and spark debate.

In a mysterious pyramid in China’s Qinghai Province near Mount Baigong are three caves filled with pipes leading to a nearby salt-water lake. There are also pipes under the lake bed and on the shore. The iron pipes range in size, with some smaller than a toothpick. The strangest part is that they may be about 150,000 years old.

Dating done by the Beijing Institute of Geology determined these iron pipes were smelted about 150,000 years ago, if they were indeed made by humans, according to Brian Dunning of Skeptoid.com.

And if they were made by humans, history as it is commonly viewed would have to be re-evaluated.

The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind.

http://themindunleashed.org/2015/04/150000-year-old-pipes-baffle-scientists-in-china-out-of-place-in-time.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Aliens or Gods

It has to be one

[JoshBB]

Very interesting.

[kirklancaster]

Aliens?

http://i.imgur.com/mKNwf9P.jpg

Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that seem to show a level of technological advancement incongruous with the times in which they were made. Ooparts often frustrate conventional scientists, delight adventurous investigators open to alternative theories, and spark debate.

In a mysterious pyramid in China’s Qinghai Province near Mount Baigong are three caves filled with pipes leading to a nearby salt-water lake. There are also pipes under the lake bed and on the shore. The iron pipes range in size, with some smaller than a toothpick. The strangest part is that they may be about 150,000 years old.

Dating done by the Beijing Institute of Geology determined these iron pipes were smelted about 150,000 years ago, if they were indeed made by humans, according to Brian Dunning of Skeptoid.com.

And if they were made by humans, history as it is commonly viewed would have to be re-evaluated.

The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind.

http://themindunleashed.org/2015/04/150000-year-old-pipes-baffle-scientists-in-china-out-of-place-in-time.html

Brilliant article Niamh - very thought provoking.

I love the predictable way in which the 'Establishment' scientific 'experts' dismiss this as 'Natural phenomena' - laughable.

[Northern Monkey]

Wow.That is crazy.I wonder if the dating technique is flawed or humans were alot more advanced than we know.Maybe there was a period of huge advancement and then something set it back?Or if the Chinese were just way more advanced than anyone else and more than we ever knew?

[Marsh.]

Aliens or Gods

It has to be one

Listen to you getting all religious. :fan:

[Niamh.]

Wow.That is crazy.I wonder if the dating technique is flawed or humans were alot more advanced than we know.Maybe there was a period of huge advancement and then something set it back?Or if the Chinese were just way more advanced than anyone else and more than we ever knew?


Or aliens :amazed:

[Northern Monkey]

Or aliens :amazed:Well you never know.Do Aliens have pipes?

[Pete.]

Wowza

[Kizzy]

My anunnaki theory doesn't seem that wild right now :idc:

[empire]

you may not believe this but why where american and british troops in iraq, dig up ancient sumerian and mesopotamian sites, those soldiers where told that they are looking for technology, they did not believe at first, but they said that they saw very strange things happening on those sites, even men wearing protective suits,

[kirklancaster]

My anunnaki theory doesn't seem that wild right now :idc:

Kizzy - I firmly believe that aliens HAVE visited Earth in antiquity and I could post hundreds of links to articles and write dozens of long posts from my own research files which offer very convincing evidence for that belief, but this does not negate the fact that Stitchin and his Anunnaki theories have been extensively debunked with incontrovertible evidence - not least of which is that his translation of the Sumerian text which his theory rests on, is wrong and wildly imaginative. Every ancient language scholar has concluded as much and it is notable that Stitchin was NOT qualified in ancient languages.

His links with the Anunnaki and the Nephilim is equally fanciful and does not bear scrutiny.

However, you are free to believe what you want, though I find it laughable that people find it all so easy to continue to believe this and other totally fallacious theories without ANY evidence but yet declare that Christianity is a myth when the evidence for Christ is both preponderant and persuasive.

[Kizzy]

I will believe what I want thankyou, I find your views as laughable as you appear to find mine.
How are we to know that this discovery won't offer the proof?

[user104658]

Denenenenenenenenene... Nah nah nah whoo whee wha whoo whee WhoooOOoOOoo.

... ... That was supposed to be me singing "the x files" theme tune. I'm betting no one got that. :(

Weird though!

[billy123]

Kizzy told me it was just the plumbing from Niamh's old house that she lived in when she was in her 50's.
I dunno if thats true its just what i heard.

[Ammi]

Aliens?

http://i.imgur.com/mKNwf9P.jpg

Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that seem to show a level of technological advancement incongruous with the times in which they were made. Ooparts often frustrate conventional scientists, delight adventurous investigators open to alternative theories, and spark debate.

In a mysterious pyramid in China’s Qinghai Province near Mount Baigong are three caves filled with pipes leading to a nearby salt-water lake. There are also pipes under the lake bed and on the shore. The iron pipes range in size, with some smaller than a toothpick. The strangest part is that they may be about 150,000 years old.

Dating done by the Beijing Institute of Geology determined these iron pipes were smelted about 150,000 years ago, if they were indeed made by humans, according to Brian Dunning of Skeptoid.com.

And if they were made by humans, history as it is commonly viewed would have to be re-evaluated.

The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind.

http://themindunleashed.org/2015/04/150000-year-old-pipes-baffle-scientists-in-china-out-of-place-in-time.html



...it's funny because I was recently looking at some Egyptian artefacts in a gallery and thought hmmmm, what's gained really from these exhibits...is it right really to essentially rob graves/dig up bodies...and then with something like this, you're reminded of just how much there is still to learn and to gain from...


some of the pipes were found to be highly radioactive

[Ammi]

..I also loved the movies Stargate and 5th Element and would love for there to be a connection with other planet life...

[user104658]

Leeloo Dallas mooltipass. Mool Tee Pass.

[Ammi]

..also, with ancient stuff like this and the thought that aliens could have been responsible..it's all quite fascinating/thought provoking and amazing and exciting etc..but if we were to find live aliens now...?...would we kill them out of fear/not us but Governments etc or cut them open to see how they tick...that wouldn't feel quite so amazing...

[Ammi]

Leeloo Dallas mooltipass. Mool Tee Pass.


...that movie..:worship:..I was always a bit distracted by Chris Tucker's character though, he was perfect in it....and Gary Oldman..:lovedup:...

[user104658]

...that movie..:worship:..I was always a bit distracted by Chris Tucker's character though, he was perfect in it....and Gary Oldman..:lovedup:...
I've seen it more times than is reasonable - I think it was on Channel 5 a lot in my teens when I only had 5 channels :joker:.

[kirklancaster]

Kizzy told me it was just the plumbing from Niamh's old house that she lived in when she was in her 50's.
I dunno if thats true its just what i heard.

:joker::joker::joker:

[kirklancaster]

I've seen it more times than is reasonable - I think it was on Channel 5 a lot in my teens when I only had 5 channels :joker:.

Me too. :blush:

[Ammi]

..I think the Niamh age jokes are older than those pipes..:laugh:...

[user104658]

Me too. :blush:
Kirk I was talking about the Bruce Willis film "the fifth element" - not LT's penis.

... ... :hehe:

[user104658]

(Although I've heard it was on Channel 5 a lot, too)

[kirklancaster]

In Arthur C Clarke's '2001 A Space Oddyssey', super advanced Aliens visited our planet around 2 million years ago and found a species of Hominids (Australopithecus sediba?) who were reminiscent of their own primitive ancestors. The Hominids were in real danger of exctinction and so the Aliens gave them a huge evolutionary 'leap forward' by fusing their own DNA with the 'apes'. Thus; Homo Sapiens was 'born' and we went from near bottom of the 'Food Chain' to the very top.

Reasoning that if Aliens DID visit us, and that we were then too primitive to understand, then they would leave us a 'Calling Card' to be discovered and 'read' only when we had sufficiently evolved to be able to meet them, Clarke had the aliens bury a 'Monolith' on our moon.

The buried Monolith was a 'Sentinel' (Clarke's original title) and the idea was that if MAN was able to FLY to the moon and unearth the Monolith, then it was guaranteed that we had evolved sufficiently to meet our 'creators', and once it was unearthed a signal automatically 'shot' to Jupiter - home of the 'Gods'.

Now, I wonder in the case of all these IRREFUTABLE archaeological anomalous artefacts, whether we are all now playing the same 'guessing' games as the astronauts in Clarke's story who unearthed the moon Monolith - "What the Feck is this? It shouldn't BE HERE?".

The trouble is; that in the case of those 'KNOW IT ALLS' the mainstream scientists, they try to fit each archaeological anomaly into the parameters of accepted science - no matter how big a stretch that is; The 'Baghdad Battery becomes just a mere papyrus storage jar, and Niamh's 150,000 year old radioactive metal pipes become 'natural formations', the extensive 12, 000 year old mystical site at Göbekli Tepe in Turkey is 'just a temple', for example.

Now, some 'Ancient Alien' claims have been satisfactorily 'de-bunked'; Stitchin and The Anunnaki (sorry Kizzy) and the Egyptian 'Light Bulb' of Dendera in Egypt fame, but conventional science CANNOT answer ALL the questions raised by the thousands of incongruous ancient artefacts in existence.

Oh if only we could unearth a shiny black monolith - signal to Orion's belt or Sigma Sagittarii and all.

[kirklancaster]

Kirk I was talking about the Bruce Willis film "the fifth element" - not LT's penis.

... ... :hehe:

:joker::joker::joker::joker: Twot.

[kirklancaster]

..I think the Niamh age jokes are older than those pipes..:laugh:...

:joker::joker::joker: Classic Ammi.

[Northern Monkey]

Denenenenenenenenene... Nah nah nah whoo whee wha whoo whee WhoooOOoOOoo.

... ... That was supposed to be me singing "the x files" theme tune. I'm betting no one got that. :(

Weird though!

Oh!
I had Batman in my head when reading that:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

...it's funny because I was recently looking at some Egyptian artefacts in a gallery and thought hmmmm, what's gained really from these exhibits...is it right really to essentially rob graves/dig up bodies...and then with something like this, you're reminded of just how much there is still to learn and to gain from...


some of the pipes were found to be highly radioactive

Have you ever been to the Egyptian Museum?The amount of stuff found in just one tomb is amazing when you see it.

[kirklancaster]

Have you ever been to the Egyptian Museum?The amount of stuff found in just one tomb is amazing when you see it.

That's where I first met LT - it took me ages getting him out of that sarcophagus and taking all those bandages off. :laugh:

Seriously Paul, I recommend at least a day there for anyone who hasn't been - fascinating.

[Niamh.]

..I think the Niamh age jokes are older than those pipes..:laugh:...

aint that the truth :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

That's where I first met LT - it took me ages getting him out of that sarcophagus and taking all those bandages off. :laugh:

Seriously Paul, I recommend at least a day there for anyone who hasn't been - fascinating.

Yeah i went about 3 or 4 years ago.I had no idea before i went the amount of artifacts that which were actually found and the amount of gold!The size of the caskets and other things like chariots.Amazing.

[kirklancaster]

Yeah i went about 3 or 4 years ago.I had no idea before i went the amount of artifacts that which were actually found and the amount of gold!The size of the caskets and other things like chariots.Amazing.

I don't know about you, but visiting there has always had the same effect on me as standing in St Paul's Cathedral looking around it, or looking up at the star-filled night sky in the early hours -- A total awestruck realisation of how insignificant we are and how little we really know about anything.

[Kizzy]

Sitchin may have been debunked for his interpretation of events which, as the debunkers is,just one mans opinion and open to scrutiny obviously.
What of the depictions in ancient Mesopotamian and Egyptian art and text or the enuma elis? The references to the nephilim in the bible ( genesis, numbers and the book of Jubilees)
Do I believe that artifacts such as the Antikythera mechanism and the Bagdad batteries were technology passed from more intelligent beings than us? Yes.

[Livia]

I love this thread, it's like an homage to Google.

[Crimson Dynamo]

not my penis getting dragged into a neem is older than Methuselah thread?

[user104658]

not my penis getting dragged into a neem is older than Methuselah thread?
There are worse places it could be dragged. Probably.

[kirklancaster]

There are worse places it could be dragged. Probably.

:joker: Is that praising Niamh or the opposite TS?

[user104658]

:joker: Is that praising Niamh or the opposite TS?
Deliberately ambiguous? There are rumours of an ancient mummy curse but I personally refuse to believe it!

[Niamh.]

:suspect: