Trews thread

[Kizzy]

Here is a thread for the discussion of Russel Brands youtube channel 'Trews'

Here is todays Trews enjoy :)

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[Niamh.]

Oh I like this thread

[Marsh.]

Trew? Isn't that Livia?

[Crimson Dynamo]

not kizzy making a covert Thirst thread?

[Kizzy]

You're only jelly cos he looks sexy with his hair pushed back and you don't.
Do you have a little voice LT? (I don't mean the voices of the flies in your whiskey btw)

Anyhoo the trews, aw I do remember the littlest hobo :(

[Marsh.]

You're only jelly cos he looks sexy with his hair pushed back and you don't.
Do you hae a little voice LT? (I don't mean the voices of the flies in your whiskey btw)

Anyhoo the trews, aw I do remember the littlest hobo :(

I understand all of those words separately. :laugh:

[Cherie]

Trew? Isn't that Livia?

:omgno:

[Helen 28]

This bloke ? has to be without doubt one of the most stupid and dangerous idiots ever to breathe.

In the egotistical knobjockey stakes he is well out in front.

[Kizzy]

Dangerous... How so?

[Helen 28]

Dangerous... How so?

Just 2 spring to mind, - encouraging drug use and telling young people not to vote.

[Marsh.]

Encouraging drug use?

[Kizzy]

How is being an ex addict and consciously avoiding drugs advocating their use?
Lots of young people don't vote it's not particularly dangerous, telling young people to vote tory that's dangerous!...oops! :hehe:

[Nedusa]

This bloke ? has to be without doubt one of the most stupid and dangerous idiots ever to breathe.

In the egotistical knobjockey stakes he is well out in front.

Thank you.... Helen , I could not have expressed this view any more eloquently.

[kirklancaster]

I saw a short clip of him a while ago and actually started to warm to him because he seemed sincere in what he was saying, but this crap has just put me right back to my original appraisal of him that he is an insignificant, egotistical prat who spouts shallow bollox and does not make sense.

"In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle.

He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience.

I noticed as well that the only message Brand did not read out in its entirety was the pro UKIP one from Mikeys4U who reasoned with him to "Try looking at the policies and not the people behind them" which he neither read nor dealt with but flashed past at the speed of sound while the message image - unlike the others - disappeared just as quickly.

Instead of addressing the points Mikeys4U made, Brand produces more rhetoric, like a rabbit from a magicians hat, and drones about "Blaming vulnerable people for problems created by powerful people" which is yet more meaningless 'New World Order' twaddle, because no one is blaming 'vulnerable people' for the very evident, irrefutable corruption and Machiavellian crimes of the 'powers that be'.

However, without actually verbalising that he means 'UKIP blaming immigration' Brand links in to a clip of the now hackneyed 'Cassetteboy's 'Emperor's New Clothes Rap'.

But I challenge anyone, anywhere, to PROVE to me; that any UKIP spokesperson has ever blamed ALL this country's problems on immigration.

Our 'Open Door' Immigration policy is creating many new problems (some of which have yet to fully materialise) and increasing many of our existing ones, but it is not THE cause of all our problems and NO UKIP politician or spokesperson has ever claimed otherwise.

I have written a new version of Cassetteboy's rap especially for Brand. Altogether now, come on, sing along:

Kirkboy's - 'The Nonentity's New Career Choice Crap'

Want a massive platform? Get a congregation.
Wanna be adored? Bull**** a gullible Nation.
Wanna stay employed? Cause consternation.
Wanna obscure your ignorance? Use oral defecation.
Wanna fecking emigrate Brand? Kirk'll drive you to the station.

When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

And when it comes to some of the immigrants whose cause he so fervently champions, Brand is just as infuriatingly hypocritical; Scream and Rail against our system whilst enjoying its benefits, and the Democratic Freedom it affords to scream and rail in the first place.

All in all - a First Class Prick so deserving of a First Class One Way Ticket To Palookaville - or Syria or fecking anywhere but the UK which he seems to detest so much:

What a world, (what a world) what a place, (what a place)
Ain't you glad you're a member of the human race.

Now False Prophet Brand came back from the USA
To sing at the Albert Hall,
He sang his songs of protest
And fairer shares for all.
He sang how the poor were much too poor
And the rich too rich by far,
Then he drove back to his penthouse
In his brand new Rolls Royce car.

[Nedusa]

I saw a short clip of him a while ago and actually started to warm to him because he seemed sincere in what he was saying, but this crap has just put me right back to my original appraisal of him that he is an insignificant, egotistical prat who spouts shallow bollox and does not make sense.

"In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle.

He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience.

I noticed as well that the only message Brand did not read out in its entirety was the pro UKIP one from Mikeys4U who reasoned with him to "Try looking at the policies and not the people behind them" which he neither read nor dealt with but flashed past at the speed of sound while the message image - unlike the others - disappeared just as quickly.

Instead of addressing the points Mikeys4U made, Brand produces more rhetoric, like a rabbit from a magicians hat, and drones about "Blaming vulnerable people for problems created by powerful people" which is yet more meaningless 'New World Order' twaddle, because no one is blaming 'vulnerable people' for the very evident, irrefutable corruption and Machiavellian crimes of the 'powers that be'.

However, without actually verbalising that he means 'UKIP blaming immigration' Brand links in to a clip of the now hackneyed 'Cassetteboy's 'Emperor's New Clothes Rap'.

But I challenge anyone, anywhere, to PROVE to me; that any UKIP spokesperson has ever blamed ALL this country's problems on immigration.

Our 'Open Door' Immigration policy is creating many new problems (some of which have yet to fully materialise) and increasing many of our existing ones, but it is not THE cause of all our problems and NO UKIP politician or spokesperson has ever claimed otherwise.

I have written a new version of Cassetteboy's rap especially for Brand. Altogether now, come on, sing along:

Kirkboy's - 'The Nonentity's New Career Choice Crap'

Want a massive platform? Get a congregation.
Wanna be adored? Bull**** a gullible Nation.
Wanna stay employed? Cause consternation.
Wanna obscure your ignorance? Use oral defecation.
Wanna fecking emigrate Brand? Kirk'll drive you to the station.

When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

And when it comes to some of the immigrants whose cause he so fervently champions, Brand is just as infuriatingly hypocritical; Scream and Rail against our system whilst enjoying its benefits, and the Democratic Freedom it affords to scream and rail in the first place.

All in all - a First Class Prick so deserving of a First Class One Way Ticket To Palookaville - or Syria or fecking anywhere but the UK which he seems to detest so much:

What a world, (what a world) what a place, (what a place)
Ain't you glad you're a member of the human race.

Now False Prophet Brand came back from the USA
To sing at the Albert Hall,
He sang his songs of protest
And fairer shares for all.
He sang how the poor were much too poor
And the rich too rich by far,
Then he drove back to his penthouse
In his brand new Rolls Royce car.

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[MTVN]

Not this bloody tosser again

[Kizzy]

Who can ask for a better system? If you're too poor you're jealous if too rich a hypocrite..
I don't feel he wants to destroy anything, revolutionise yes, which in politics speak is akin to reform and they are not adverse to that.

[kirklancaster]

Not this bloody tosser again

:clap1:

(Err... I hope you meant Brand,:laugh: Matt? )

[Helen 28]

How is being an ex addict and consciously avoiding drugs advocating their use?


Although I cannot go into details because of my employers relationship with a few individuals all I'll say is this :

Russell Brand doesn't always tell the truth or the full story.

[Kizzy]

That's a rather cryptic message.

[Kazanne]

I used to dislike RB so much when he did BBLB,I then started to warm to him,but just lately I am back to square one with him,he seems to be looking for anyway to gain fame again.I can't be arsed with him.

[Kizzy]

He's not doing a very good job then seeing as we only ever see him on youtube now and most people hate him :/
Hopefully by the next trews we'll get what people think of the subject and not just Russel :joker:

[kirklancaster]

He's not doing a very good job then seeing as we only ever see him on youtube now and most people hate him :/
Hopefully by the next trews we'll get what people think of the subject and not just Russel :joker:

Define just what you mean by 'Subject' so we can all discuss it, because Brand's pathetic, random, verbal diarrhoea gives us no clues.

[Livia]

Trew? Isn't that Livia?

What?

[RichardG]

I really like Russel Brand when he's doing his general celebrity media stuff but I've tried watching his trews videos and other political things and I can't follow a word of what he's saying. :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Define just what you mean by 'Subject' so we can all discuss it, because Brand's pathetic, random, verbal diarrhoea gives us no clues.

The subject as defined by the title.

'Unhappy Britain: Blame immigration?'

[kirklancaster]

The subject as defined by the title.

'Unhappy Britain: Blame immigration?'

:joker: But that is pure baloney. Brand propaganda. I have challenged anyone anywhere to PROVE to me THAT ANY politician OF ANY POLITICAL PARTY has ever claimed that immigration is solely to blame for ALL the UK's ills.

Brand claiming that 'someone' is saying 'something' solely to 'JUSTIFY' his false 'CRUSADE' does not mean that his claim is true, because it isn't.

IT IS A LIE..... IT IS A FALSE LIE.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9HHq8npXhiXSeODVnPgC4eWLCrN_y5 kPtDpECgkZW-QOiBM9pEA

[arista]

This thread is wrong

He is selling his book
so this is a Big Ad

[arista]

Oh I like this thread


Typical

[Kizzy]

Your hatred for Russell Brand is irrelevant.

https://shamocracy.org/2014/12/08/hatred-russell-brand-irrelevant/

[Northern Monkey]

TWAT........






......

Nope thats it.......
Nothing else.

[Vicky.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B33lCkoIMAAs92k.jpg

[Kizzy]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[arista]

"Your hatred for Russell Brand is irrelevant."


He made Millions More Not To Vote
but is happy selling his Fecking Book
Fact

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B33lCkoIMAAs92k.jpg


Sure
but other matters are more important to us

[Marsh.]

What?

:omgno: Nothing.

[Kizzy]

:omgno: Nothing.

:omgno: and there's me thinking it was a clever play on 'true news'.

[kirklancaster]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHM_dLSBdq-lfH_VZZTyHBmTruWhIOQF51ClVRdJUksCS6UNcv

"I am the liar of the world. Whichever naive idiot follows me will not walk in truth, but will be help me stay rich now that my career is faded"


Millionaire comedian and former Mr Katy Perry, Russell Brand pays thousands a month to his tax-exile landlords despite campaigning against rocketing rent prices.

Russell Brand called Channel 4 reporter 'snide' after asking about his rent
Comedian lives in £2million home owned by a firm based in a tax haven
Flew into rage when it was suggested he is part of the housing problem.

Brand is said to live in a chic fourth-storey flat in a converted warehouse
Pays around £5,000 a month for three-bedroom property in East London
Star worth £9m admitted he 'shouldn't be allowed on TV' after interview
'I'm so easily wound up. I'm volatile person - I was a drug addict for a long time, because I have very, very strong feelings,' he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2857221/Millionaire-comic-Russell-Brand-loses-temper-march-Downing-Street-asked-London-home-worth.html

[Kizzy]

'Consider C4 reporter Paraic O’Brien turning up to a Brand-supported, Downing Street-set protest objecting to a group of single mums being turfed out of their homes by the UK’s richest MP and asking Brand, “What kind of rent are you paying?”.


It’s a bit like a journalist today hearing Martin Luther King’s ‘I Have a Dream’ speech and claiming King is racist for not making room in his dream for Native American kids, or questioning peace icon Mahatma Gandhi’s fasting credentials because he’d conveniently spent most of his life eating food. That is to say, who these men are and who they have been is – in this context – totally besides the point. I’m not comparing Russell Brand to Mohandas Gandhi or Dr King, but I am saying you should be focusing not on the man, but on what the man is saying – what he’s actually saying, not what the media is telling you he’s saying – as should surely always be the case.'

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/02/23A9218300000578-0-image-28_1417518260462.jpg
Yes Kirk
he can Dish it out
but if you find something on him
he can not handle it.

[Vicky.]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHM_dLSBdq-lfH_VZZTyHBmTruWhIOQF51ClVRdJUksCS6UNcv

"I am the liar of the world. Whichever naive idiot follows me will not walk in truth, but will be help me stay rich now that my career is faded"


Millionaire comedian and former Mr Katy Perry, Russell Brand pays thousands a month to his tax-exile landlords despite campaigning against rocketing rent prices.

Russell Brand called Channel 4 reporter 'snide' after asking about his rent
Comedian lives in £2million home owned by a firm based in a tax haven
Flew into rage when it was suggested he is part of the housing problem.

Brand is said to live in a chic fourth-storey flat in a converted warehouse
Pays around £5,000 a month for three-bedroom property in East London
Star worth £9m admitted he 'shouldn't be allowed on TV' after interview
'I'm so easily wound up. I'm volatile person - I was a drug addict for a long time, because I have very, very strong feelings,' he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2857221/Millionaire-comic-Russell-Brand-loses-temper-march-Downing-Street-asked-London-home-worth.html
Is this actually true though. 1. Its in the daily mail, and 2 he plans to sue for libel over it...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/03/russell-brand-the-sun_n_6259906.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

I doubt he would bother trying to sue if he had no grounds too, and not long ago he got a payout from the sun for printing deliberate lies about him too ;)

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B340xirIcAA4RPi.jpg
What a great Front Page Vicky

[Kizzy]

How would he be aware of his landlords tax status?

[kirklancaster]

'Consider C4 reporter Paraic O’Brien turning up to a Brand-supported, Downing Street-set protest objecting to a group of single mums being turfed out of their homes by the UK’s richest MP and asking Brand, “What kind of rent are you paying?”.

It’s a bit like a journalist today hearing Martin Luther King’s ‘I Have a Dream’ speech and claiming King is racist for not making room in his dream for Native American kids, or questioning peace icon Mahatma Gandhi’s fasting credentials because he’d conveniently spent most of his life eating food. That is to say, who these men are and who they have been is – in this context – totally besides the point. I’m not comparing Russell Brand to Mohandas Gandhi or Dr King, but I am saying you should be focusing not on the man, but on what the man is saying – what he’s actually saying, not what the media is telling you he’s saying – as should surely always be the case.'

Until I see him give away £8 million of his £9 million pound fortune to Refugee and Food Bank Charities, and until I see 20 or 30 of the London Homeless kipping down in Brand's £2 million pound apartment all cosy and snug in new duvets which Brand has bought them, and until Brand actually DEFINES just what revolutionary replacement for the existing political/Social paradigm he professes to detest so much but is a capitalist part of, then Brand can kiss my muscular, half-caste butt.

[kirklancaster]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B340xirIcAA4RPi.jpg
What a great Front Page Vicky

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Indeed Arista.

[Kizzy]

Until I see him give away £8 million of his £9 million pound fortune to Refugee and Food Bank Charities, and until I see 20 or 30 of the London Homeless kipping down in Brand's £2 million pound apartment all cosy and snug in new duvets which Brand has bought them, and until Brand actually DEFINES just what revolutionary replacement for the existing political/Social paradigm he professes to detest so much but is a capitalist part of, then Brand can kiss my muscular, half-caste butt.

Why on earth would he do that?... how would that highlight the plight of those in need of foodbanks, or taking in 20 homeless help the other 100s?

I personally think he's done more to highlight social and political issues and made people question just what we're spoonfed by the media, I'm sure other younger inquiring minds will too and that can only be a good thing.

Will you be going to see 'The emperors new clothes' by any chance?

[Vicky.]

Until I see him give away £8 million of his £9 million pound fortune to Refugee and Food Bank Charities, and until I see 20 or 30 of the London Homeless kipping down in Brand's £2 million pound apartment all cosy and snug in new duvets which Brand has bought them, and until Brand actually DEFINES just what revolutionary replacement for the existing political/Social paradigm he professes to detest so much but is a capitalist part of, then Brand can kiss my muscular, half-caste butt.
hes getting there

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/mar/26/russell-brand-donates-profits-book-hackney-cafe

He definitely appears to put his money where his mouth is..despite all the right wing rags hating him and coming up with (potentially) libelous stories ;)

[Vicky.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B340xirIcAA4RPi.jpg
What a great Front Page Vicky

Yep, even better when he wins the libel case against them (again) :tongue:

[Marsh.]

:omgno: and there's me thinking it was a clever play on 'true news'.

:omgno: True news for jews

[Kizzy]

Bit much to expect people to give away their entire income don't you think, however, hes getting there

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/mar/26/russell-brand-donates-profits-book-hackney-cafe

He definitely appears to put his money where his mouth is..despite all the right wing rags hating him and coming up with (potentially) libelous stories ;)

Don't forget the new cryptocurrency,

'Startjoin was co-founded by the maverick financial commentator Max Keiser famous for his tirades against the big banks and incumbent financial industry. Quite what kind of revolution people will be funding if they begin shelling out their Startcoin remains something of a mystery.

Many of those who have managed to work their way through Brand's foray into political philosophy - Revolution - are left wondering exactly what a world after the glorious upheaval would look like.

There may be some clues in Brand's latest film The Emperor's New Clothes. The advert for the documentary, which was made in collaboration with Michael Winterbottom, features Brand going from banks' headquarters to rich people's houses to attempt to understand the global financial system.'

http://www.cityam.com/213682/russell-brand-teams-cryptocurrency-firm-fund-global-revolution

[kirklancaster]

Why on earth would he do that?... how would that highlight the plight of those in need of foodbanks, or taking in 20 homeless help the other 100s?

I personally think he's done more to highlight social and political issues and made people question just what we're spoonfed by the media, I'm sure other younger inquiring minds will too and that can only be a good thing.

Will you be going to see 'The emperors new clothes' by any chance?

Why would I do that? This video clip was more than enough fake twaddle from prize hypocrite Brand:

I saw a short clip of him a while ago and actually started to warm to him because he seemed sincere in what he was saying, but this crap has just put me right back to my original appraisal of him that he is an insignificant, egotistical prat who spouts shallow bollox and does not make sense.

"In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle.

He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience.

I noticed as well that the only message Brand did not read out in its entirety was the pro UKIP one from Mikeys4U who reasoned with him to "Try looking at the policies and not the people behind them" which he neither read nor dealt with but flashed past at the speed of sound while the message image - unlike the others - disappeared just as quickly.

Instead of addressing the points Mikeys4U made, Brand produces more rhetoric, like a rabbit from a magicians hat, and drones about "Blaming vulnerable people for problems created by powerful people" which is yet more meaningless 'New World Order' twaddle, because no one is blaming 'vulnerable people' for the very evident, irrefutable corruption and Machiavellian crimes of the 'powers that be'.

However, without actually verbalising that he means 'UKIP blaming immigration' Brand links in to a clip of the now hackneyed 'Cassetteboy's 'Emperor's New Clothes Rap'.

But I challenge anyone, anywhere, to PROVE to me; that any UKIP spokesperson has ever blamed ALL this country's problems on immigration.

Our 'Open Door' Immigration policy is creating many new problems (some of which have yet to fully materialise) and increasing many of our existing ones, but it is not THE cause of all our problems and NO UKIP politician or spokesperson has ever claimed otherwise.

I have written a new version of Cassetteboy's rap especially for Brand. Altogether now, come on, sing along:

Kirkboy's - 'The Nonentity's New Career Choice Crap'

Want a massive platform? Get a congregation.
Wanna be adored? Bull**** a gullible Nation.
Wanna stay employed? Cause consternation.
Wanna obscure your ignorance? Use oral defecation.
Wanna fecking emigrate Brand? Kirk'll drive you to the station.

When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

And when it comes to some of the immigrants whose cause he so fervently champions, Brand is just as infuriatingly hypocritical; Scream and Rail against our system whilst enjoying its benefits, and the Democratic Freedom it affords to scream and rail in the first place.

All in all - a First Class Prick so deserving of a First Class One Way Ticket To Palookaville - or Syria or fecking anywhere but the UK which he seems to detest so much:

What a world, (what a world) what a place, (what a place)
Ain't you glad you're a member of the human race.

Now False Prophet Brand came back from the USA
To sing at the Albert Hall,
He sang his songs of protest
And fairer shares for all.
He sang how the poor were much too poor
And the rich too rich by far,
Then he drove back to his penthouse
In his brand new Rolls Royce car.

[Vicky.]

I saw a short clip of him a while ago and actually started to warm to him because he seemed sincere in what he was saying, but this crap has just put me right back to my original appraisal of him that he is an insignificant, egotistical prat who spouts shallow bollox and does not make sense.

"In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle.

He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience.

I noticed as well that the only message Brand did not read out in its entirety was the pro UKIP one from Mikeys4U who reasoned with him to "Try looking at the policies and not the people behind them" which he neither read nor dealt with but flashed past at the speed of sound while the message image - unlike the others - disappeared just as quickly.

Instead of addressing the points Mikeys4U made, Brand produces more rhetoric, like a rabbit from a magicians hat, and drones about "Blaming vulnerable people for problems created by powerful people" which is yet more meaningless 'New World Order' twaddle, because no one is blaming 'vulnerable people' for the very evident, irrefutable corruption and Machiavellian crimes of the 'powers that be'.

However, without actually verbalising that he means 'UKIP blaming immigration' Brand links in to a clip of the now hackneyed 'Cassetteboy's 'Emperor's New Clothes Rap'.

But I challenge anyone, anywhere, to PROVE to me; that any UKIP spokesperson has ever blamed ALL this country's problems on immigration.

Our 'Open Door' Immigration policy is creating many new problems (some of which have yet to fully materialise) and increasing many of our existing ones, but it is not THE cause of all our problems and NO UKIP politician or spokesperson has ever claimed otherwise.

I have written a new version of Cassetteboy's rap especially for Brand. Altogether now, come on, sing along:

Kirkboy's - 'The Nonentity's New Career Choice Crap'

Want a massive platform? Get a congregation.
Wanna be adored? Bull**** a gullible Nation.
Wanna stay employed? Cause consternation.
Wanna obscure your ignorance? Use oral defecation.
Wanna fecking emigrate Brand? Kirk'll drive you to the station.

When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

And when it comes to some of the immigrants whose cause he so fervently champions, Brand is just as infuriatingly hypocritical; Scream and Rail against our system whilst enjoying its benefits, and the Democratic Freedom it affords to scream and rail in the first place.

All in all - a First Class Prick so deserving of a First Class One Way Ticket To Palookaville - or Syria or fecking anywhere but the UK which he seems to detest so much:

What a world, (what a world) what a place, (what a place)
Ain't you glad you're a member of the human race.

Now False Prophet Brand came back from the USA
To sing at the Albert Hall,
He sang his songs of protest
And fairer shares for all.
He sang how the poor were much too poor
And the rich too rich by far,
Then he drove back to his penthouse
In his brand new Rolls Royce car.

Why would I do that? This video clip was more than enough fake twaddle from prize hypocrite Brand:

I saw a short clip of him a while ago and actually started to warm to him because he seemed sincere in what he was saying, but this crap has just put me right back to my original appraisal of him that he is an insignificant, egotistical prat who spouts shallow bollox and does not make sense.

"In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle.

He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience.

I noticed as well that the only message Brand did not read out in its entirety was the pro UKIP one from Mikeys4U who reasoned with him to "Try looking at the policies and not the people behind them" which he neither read nor dealt with but flashed past at the speed of sound while the message image - unlike the others - disappeared just as quickly.

Instead of addressing the points Mikeys4U made, Brand produces more rhetoric, like a rabbit from a magicians hat, and drones about "Blaming vulnerable people for problems created by powerful people" which is yet more meaningless 'New World Order' twaddle, because no one is blaming 'vulnerable people' for the very evident, irrefutable corruption and Machiavellian crimes of the 'powers that be'.

However, without actually verbalising that he means 'UKIP blaming immigration' Brand links in to a clip of the now hackneyed 'Cassetteboy's 'Emperor's New Clothes Rap'.

But I challenge anyone, anywhere, to PROVE to me; that any UKIP spokesperson has ever blamed ALL this country's problems on immigration.

Our 'Open Door' Immigration policy is creating many new problems (some of which have yet to fully materialise) and increasing many of our existing ones, but it is not THE cause of all our problems and NO UKIP politician or spokesperson has ever claimed otherwise.

I have written a new version of Cassetteboy's rap especially for Brand. Altogether now, come on, sing along:

Kirkboy's - 'The Nonentity's New Career Choice Crap'

Want a massive platform? Get a congregation.
Wanna be adored? Bull**** a gullible Nation.
Wanna stay employed? Cause consternation.
Wanna obscure your ignorance? Use oral defecation.
Wanna fecking emigrate Brand? Kirk'll drive you to the station.

When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

And when it comes to some of the immigrants whose cause he so fervently champions, Brand is just as infuriatingly hypocritical; Scream and Rail against our system whilst enjoying its benefits, and the Democratic Freedom it affords to scream and rail in the first place.

All in all - a First Class Prick so deserving of a First Class One Way Ticket To Palookaville - or Syria or fecking anywhere but the UK which he seems to detest so much:

What a world, (what a world) what a place, (what a place)
Ain't you glad you're a member of the human race.

Now False Prophet Brand came back from the USA
To sing at the Albert Hall,
He sang his songs of protest
And fairer shares for all.
He sang how the poor were much too poor
And the rich too rich by far,
Then he drove back to his penthouse
In his brand new Rolls Royce car.

:conf: This is basically a copy/paste job from another post in this thread

[kirklancaster]

:conf: This is basically a copy/paste job from another post in this thread

:laugh: Just saves me repeating myself - The Guy talks crap and that video clip PROVES it.

[Kizzy]

Any comment on the deregulation of the banks or anything relevant to the points raised in the vid?

[kirklancaster]

Any comment on the deregulation of the banks or anything relevant to the points raised in the vid?

Yeah, Kiz - you list the definite points made in the vid, and I will be glad to comment in addition to the comments I have already made, but - seriously - I really DON'T understand just WHAT Brand is saying.

[Kizzy]

I'm not listing anything, l'm not that desperate for your input.

[kirklancaster]

I'm not listing anything, l'm not that desperate for your input.

:joker: YOU ask ME the question below:

"Any comment on the deregulation of the banks or anything relevant to the points raised in the vid?"

And I answer you politely that I will be glad to comment as you request, but reasonably ask you to first list the 'points' YOU refer to as "being raised in the vid" because I have watched the vid 5 times, but still cannot determine WHAT points Brand is "raising".

Your answer in a 'Serious Debate'? "I'm not listing anything, l'm not that desperate for your input".

Your posts are self contradictory and inconsistent Kizzy. :shrug: And - once again - a tangible degree of aggression and abruptness is creeping into your posts.

I do not believe - that when questioned - ANY of Brand's 'followers know what the hell he is talking about either - The man is a moron.

[Kizzy]

If I was asking you directly I would've quoted you.

[kirklancaster]

If I was asking you directly I would've quoted you.

:nono: Really Kizzy? Come off it. It is transparently obvious to anyone reading through this thread that you were ADDRESSING ME and ASKING ME the questions in post.

You hardly EVER quote anyone in your response posts, but the specifics of your responses incontrovertibly IDENTIFY just WHO EACH of those individual responses is aimed at:

1) LT POSTS: "Not kizzy making a covert Thirst thread?"

A) YOU RESPOND WITHOUT QUOTING: "You're only jelly cos he looks sexy with his hair pushed back and you don't. Do you have a little voice LT?"

Pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

2) HELEN POSTS: "This bloke ? has to be without doubt one of the most stupid and dangerous idiots ever to breathe."

B) YOU POST WITHOUT QUOTING: "Dangerous... How so?"

Pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

3) HELEN QUOTES YOUAND RESPONDS: "Just 2 spring to mind, - encouraging drug use and telling young people not to vote."

C) YOU POST WITHOUT QUOTING: "How is being an ex addict and consciously avoiding drugs advocating their use? Lots of young people don't vote it's not particularly dangerous, telling young people to vote tory that's dangerous!...oops!"

Pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

4) I POST: "When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

D) YOU POST WITHOUT QUOTING: "I don't feel he wants to destroy anything, revolutionise yes, which in politics speak is akin to reform and they are not adverse to that."

No one else had mentioned Brand 'Tearing down and destroying' anything, so it is pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

5) HELEN QUOTES YOU AND POSTS: "Although I cannot go into details because of my employers relationship with a few individuals all I'll say is this : Russell Brand doesn't always tell the truth or the full story."

E) YOU RESPOND WITHOUT QUOTING: "That's a rather cryptic message."

Now, no one else had written any cryptic posts, so it is pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

6) KAZ POSTED: "I used to dislike RB so much when he did BBLB,I then started to warm to him,but just lately I am back to square one with him,he seems to be looking for anyway to gain fame again.I can't be arsed with him."

F) YOU POSTED WITHOUT QUOTING: "He's not doing a very good job then seeing as we only ever see him on youtube now and most people hate him."

As no one else mentioned Brand trying anyway to gain fame again, it is pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

7) I POSTED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT BRAND'S EXPENSIVE RENTED FLAT: "Millionaire comedian and former Mr Katy Perry, Russell Brand pays thousands a month to his tax-exile landlords despite campaigning against rocketing rent prices. Russell Brand called Channel 4 reporter 'snide' after asking about his rent"

G) YOU POSTED WITHOUT QUOTING: "Consider C4 reporter Paraic O’Brien turning up to a Brand-supported, Downing Street-set protest objecting to a group of single mums being turfed out of their homes by the UK’s richest MP and asking Brand, “What kind of rent are you paying?”.

Now, as no one else mentioned Brand's expensive rented flat, it is pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

8) ARISTA POSTS A FRONT PAGE OF THE SUN WITH AN ARTICLE ABOUT BRAND'S HYPOCRISY IN PAYING RENT TO A TAX-DODGING LANDLORD.

H) YOU POST WITHOUT QUOTING: "How would he be aware of his landlords tax status?"

As no one else posted anything about Brand and his landlord's 'Tax Status',it is pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

9) I POSTED A LONG ARTICLE DEBUNKING BRAND AS A PHONEY.

I) YOU POST WITHOUT QUOTING: "Any comment on the deregulation of the banks or anything relevant to the points raised in the vid?"

Now, you had already responded to every previous post and no one else posted anything derogatory about Brand since except me, so there can be no doubt that - despite again, not quoting anyone - you were responding and addressing your questions SPECIFICALLY to me.

10) I QUOTED YOU AND POSTED: "Yeah, Kiz - you list the definite points made in the vid, and I will be glad to comment in addition to the comments I have already made, but - seriously - I really DON'T understand just WHAT Brand is saying."

I)YOU POST (quite impolitely) WITHOUT QUOTING: "I'm not listing anything, l'm not that desperate for your input."

it is pretty obvious there who you were addressing.

Because it is so easy for ANYONE to quickly check back over a thread, it is more than a little foolish to state that: "If I was asking you directly I would've quoted you" as if that was your Modus Operandi - something which you habitually do - when in fact it is the Polar Opposite.

It is a fact, that out of 18 responses you made to other posts on this thread, you only DIRECTLY identified WHO your response was addressed to a total ,of 4 times - hardly corroborative of your statement to me is it?

If you do not want to continue a debate then do not ask questions of me, receive a polite response, then - quite impolitely - tell me; "I'm not listing anything, l'm not that desperate for your input." when the truth is that you don't want to answer because YOU CAN'T ANSWER -- YOU DO NOT KNOW YOURSELF what the hell idiot Brand is talking about.

I am not falling out with you Kiz just pointing out that there's no need to take umbrage and inject impoliteness, edge, and curtness into your responses to my posts just because I pose a perfectly valid and reasonable question for which you - obviously - have no answer.

Yes, this a detailed and serious response, because - the odd interjection of humorous light relief aside - this is a serious topic on a Serious Debate forum, and that being so, and in light of recent censure and advice by the Moderators concerning our conduct on these threads, then telling 'porkies' and 'deflection' is NOT conducive to intelligent, reasoned, and orderly debate.

[Toy Soldier]

The visceral reactions - the tone of the responses - to this, say more than the content of any of the posts by orders of magnitude. I'll keep my basic response relatively short as I can see this thread being "cleansed" (also the reason I am not quoting anyone) :

I think Brand is brilliant, in the true sense of the word. I think he is a confused, frustrated genius who struggles to water-down what he has to say enough to make it suitable for consumption by a general public who don't already instinctually "feel" the world that he describes, and when he talks there's a certain element of it being a relentless thought process that he is simply sharing. I agree with almost everything he has to say.

A note to kirk: consider, please, that just because you personally are confused by or don't understand what he is saying, does not mean that it is objectively confusing or incomprehensible. You are not the benchmark by which the clarity of thoughts or opinions are measured. For example, the meaning of "an armageddon for the individual" is perfectly clear to me without any further explanation. I can't break it down and explain it in a way that you will understand - no one here can - it's either the sort of concept that you just think "yes, absolutely" as soon as you hear it or its one that you will likely never understand.

I guess Brand's only major fault, then, is "preaching to the choir" - the people who hear him speak and understand his message perfectly are those who already agree with and understand that message.

That's not necessarily a problem. Watching his videos and just gaining the knowledge that other people out there do see things the same way you do, understand the world as you understand it, can be quite comforting. I guess something like "the trews" is sort of like a sermon, in that respect. He often comes out with things that succinctly express ideas that are already in my head as a jumble of static and random thoughts. One liners that I hear and think "YES! That's it! That's what I've been trying to express!".

His use of language can be convoluted and obscure but IMO his videos are for those people as I described above, and not for those like yourself, who wouldn't understand what he has to say no matter how it was phrased.

That's not to insult your intelligence or a skills of comprehension. In the past you've struggled to understand things I've said on here or completely misunderstood them when other members have found it to be perfectly clear. Likewise, you yourself have expressed the same feeling of being misunderstood when you feel you are being clear. We each just have a completely different set of beliefs.

[Toy Soldier]

"keeping it short" didn't work out so well for me :joker:. Ffs.

[billy123]

"keeping it short" didn't work out so well for me :joker:. Ffs.:joker: Yep you didnt do so well on that score but it was a great post.
Im taking a backseat on this one.
I just find it really interesting how obviously threatened by him some people are. The scramble by such similarly aligned members of the public to not only state how they dont agree with him but to attack his philosophy's so viscously is hilarious to me.
He talks a lot of sense and in the process exposes a lot of other peoples thought processes too which i like.

[kirklancaster]

The visceral reactions - the tone of the responses - to this, say more than the content of any of the posts by orders of magnitude. I'll keep my basic response relatively short as I can see this thread being "cleansed" (also the reason I am not quoting anyone) :

I think Brand is brilliant, in the true sense of the word. I think he is a confused, frustrated genius who struggles to water-down what he has to say enough to make it suitable for consumption by a general public who don't already instinctually "feel" the world that he describes, and when he talks there's a certain element of it being a relentless thought process that he is simply sharing. I agree with almost everything he has to say.

A note to kirk: consider, please, that just because you personally are confused by or don't understand what he is saying, does not mean that it is objectively confusing or incomprehensible. You are not the benchmark by which the clarity of thoughts or opinions are measured. For example, the meaning of "an armageddon for the individual" is perfectly clear to me without any further explanation. I can't break it down and explain it in a way that you will understand - no one here can - it's either the sort of concept that you just think "yes, absolutely" as soon as you hear it or its one that you will likely never understand.

I guess Brand's only major fault, then, is "preaching to the choir" - the people who hear him speak and understand his message perfectly are those who already agree with and understand that message.

That's not necessarily a problem. Watching his videos and just gaining the knowledge that other people out there do see things the same way you do, understand the world as you understand it, can be quite comforting. I guess something like "the trews" is sort of like a sermon, in that respect. He often comes out with things that succinctly express ideas that are already in my head as a jumble of static and random thoughts. One liners that I hear and think "YES! That's it! That's what I've been trying to express!".

His use of language can be convoluted and obscure but IMO his videos are for those people as I described above, and not for those like yourself, who wouldn't understand what he has to say no matter how it was phrased.

That's not to insult your intelligence or a skills of comprehension. In the past you've struggled to understand things I've said on here or completely misunderstood them when other members have found it to be perfectly clear. Likewise, you yourself have expressed the same feeling of being misunderstood when you feel you are being clear. We each just have a completely different set of beliefs.

There really is no need to 'patronise' me TS, or belittle my intelligence, 'listening comprehension' or ability to rationalise - no matter how 'nicely' you dress it up and I find your comment that: "His use of language can be convoluted and obscure but IMO his videos are for those people as I described above, and not for those like yourself, who wouldn't understand what he has to say no matter how it was phrased." highly insulting.

When I said that I did not understand what Brand was trying to say, I was being rhetorical - not confused. I do not understand what Brand is saying because he is saying NOTHING rational and everything which I have read of what he has written and everything which I have heard him say is random and confused, or when he has been more lucid he is merely regurgitating ideas which have been around for decades and which have been expressed by far superior intellects than his and with more clarity and fluidity.

Brand has not reinvented the wheel.

Perhaps you would like to respond to me and tell me exactly what Brand stands for?

That's not such a difficult or unreasonable question is it?

As for your jibe; "You are not the benchmark by which the clarity of thoughts or opinions are measured" you are WRONG, because I AM indeed the benchmark by which I personally measure others clarity of thoughts and opinions. How can I not be?

My senses PERCEIVE and my brain PROCESSES those perception and in a nano-second BS is ascertained and classified as BS, and I express my opinion of what data my brain has just processed, accordingly.

Do you perceive and experience something but absolutely REFRAIN from posting an OPINION because it is YOUR opinion only, and not THE BENCHMARK which ALL others will AGREE with?

I NEVER professed to BE "THE BENCHMARK by which the clarity of thoughts or opinions OF ALL OTHERS is measured" so your comment is meaningless really, but useful nonetheless to help me understand why you UNDERSTAND what moron Brand is saying in his garbled preaching.

Your post even starts off with two contradictions TS:

"I'll keep my basic response relatively short as I can see this thread being "cleansed" (also the reason I am not quoting anyone)"

Because your post is not only NOT "relatively short" (as you admit in a follow up post) but you actually repeatedly indirectly QUOTE me as shown by the text which I have emboldened (which you do NOT admit in your follow up post).

I have my opinion of Brand as you have yours, but whereas in my lengthy post discrediting him, I actually gave reasons and used facts to support my contentions, the Brand supporters on here have thus far failed to reciprocate in their attacks on my posts and in their defence of their hero.

Instead, where I write in criticism of Brand's guff: "In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle. He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience."

Your response is: "For example, the meaning of "an armageddon for the individual" is perfectly clear to me without any further explanation. I can't break it down and explain it in a way that you will understand - no one here can - it's either the sort of concept that you just think "yes, absolutely" as soon as you hear it or its one that you will likely never understand."

The above is the same deflection drivel which other Brand supporters on here have used. Do not shirk from giving an answer which you cannot give by claiming that to do so would be futile because I would not understand it.

I have no such fears concerning my intellectual capacities, so humour me and post your explanation of just how Biblical 'Armageddon' or actual 'Nuclear' can be an 'individual' experience as motor-mouth Brand, The 'Urban Messiah' proclaims.

Incorporate it in a post which also includes a synopsis of what Brand IS SAYING (write it in Pigeon English if you like to assist me in comprehending it) and I will duly respond.

We are not heated, we are not being personal - just debating.

[Toy Soldier]

I specifically said that I'm not commenting on your intelligence - you can't understand what he is saying because you have completely different political and philosophical ideologies. That isn't an insult.

The armageddon he refers to is neither biblical nor nuclear but metaphorical. I'm not entirely sure where to go from that without knowing exactly what about it you don't understand. From my perspective and experience of you kirk, you are very sure of your opinions and philosophies, your place in the world, and humanity's place in the universe. You have strong and unshakeable personal opinions and a solid faith in Christianity. These are not negatives, I'm sure in many scenarios they are hugely beneficial. But they mean that you will simply never understand a concept like an individual apocalypse of the "self". You have a belief set and personality type that will never experience such.

[kirklancaster]

:joker: Yep you didnt do so well on that score but it was a great post.
Im taking a backseat on this one.
I just find it really interesting how obviously threatened by him some people are. The scramble by such similarly aligned members of the public to not only state how they dont agree with him but to attack his philosophy's so viscously is hilarious to me.
He talks a lot of sense and in the process exposes a lot of other peoples thought processes too which i like.

I am not threatened by him at all Bob, and before I can 'attack his philosophy' he has to lucidly state just what his philosophy is.

At present he jumps like a firecracker through one philosophy after another, through others ideas and theories (some decades old) absorbing titbits and regurgitating them in a chaotic vomit.

For all that, my GREATEST problem with Brand is that I believe he is on a personal crusade - not to put the world's (admittedly numerous) faults right as he claims - but to regain the spotlight, extend his time in it, and deify himself into the bargain.

Just my opinion.

[Toy Soldier]

At present he jumps like a firecracker through one philosophy after another, through others ideas and theories (some decades old) absorbing titbits and regurgitating them in a chaotic vomit.

I actually think this is 100% accurate we just disagree on our conclusions :joker:. For me, you see, existence IS "chaotic vomit". That's literally the best way I've ever heard it described and something I've never managed to sum up so succinctly before! So yes. A firecracker, a mad cacophony of random, but always well intentioned, existentialist thought and "chaotic vomit". And it's more honest than any philosophy that claims to stoically have the answers. THAT is nonsense. THAT is true madness. His videos are of someone with a hugely active mind trying desperately to make sense out of a senseless universe and it is for me absolutely brilliant to watch.

I understand that for someone who has more solid beliefs about the nature of existence it makes no sense. It's not a problem. Or it shouldn't be. I don't understand why it would make anyone angry.

[Kizzy]

I actually think this is 100% accurate we just disagree on our conclusions :joker:. For me, you see, existence IS "chaotic vomit". That's literally the best way I've ever heard it described and something I've never managed to sum up so succinctly before! So yes. A firecracker, a mad cacophony of random, but always well intentioned, existentialist thought and "chaotic vomit". And it's more honest than any philosophy that claims to stoically have the answers. THAT is nonsense. THAT is true madness. His videos are of someone with a hugely active mind trying desperately to make sense out of a senseless universe and it is for me absolutely brilliant to watch.

I understand that for someone who has more solid beliefs about the nature of existence it makes no sense. It's not a problem. Or it shouldn't be. I don't understand why it would make anyone angry.

I agree, I feel the same that his ideas on issues surrounding politics and money are boiled down to the simplest of terms, anyone that makes you question whether the people who 'work for us' are actually working for us and provide examples to the contrary may be described as anti establishment, but that doesn't automatically make that a bad thing...
He hasn't a springboard onto anyones breakfast table as Ms Hopkins has, a radio show or TV chat format ( thankfully shelved) he has a youtube channel. You can choose to seek him out and listen or not, similarly you can choose to click on this thread or not.
I for one am pleased that there is someone who will reduce the big questions to their purest forms as it makes comprehension easier for all, his questioning of the role of consumerism, debt, poor education, scapegoating and media bias is all relevant to social control and are diversionary tactics to confuse and blinker the country against questioning the powers that be.

[kirklancaster]

I actually think this is 100% accurate we just disagree on our conclusions :joker:. For me, you see, existence IS "chaotic vomit". That's literally the best way I've ever heard it described and something I've never managed to sum up so succinctly before! So yes. A firecracker, a mad cacophony of random, but always well intentioned, existentialist thought and "chaotic vomit". And it's more honest than any philosophy that claims to stoically have the answers. THAT is nonsense. THAT is true madness. His videos are of someone with a hugely active mind trying desperately to make sense out of a senseless universe and it is for me absolutely brilliant to watch.

I understand that for someone who has more solid beliefs about the nature of existence it makes no sense. It's not a problem. Or it shouldn't be. I don't understand why it would make anyone angry.

You see, that is the great enigma here T.S. - I don't deny some of the things that Brand, you or Kizzy are saying, and I am actually far more aware than you may think about the long entrenched corruption in EVERY institution of this country from the lowliest councils to the Government (every government) and Banking to Justice. I could write 100 pages of incontrovertable facts going back 60 years laced with personal experience on everything from the Bank Bail Out, to The Great Thatcher Sell Offs of the 80's. Even the reason we are in THE EU and the reason we have stayed in it and the reason why Cameron is raising our Foreign Aid budget is CORRUPTION. Politicians and their cronies have made hundreds of millions from both the EU and Foreign Aid over the years.

And YES - the working classes not only ARE and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN the '**** pigs' for these greedy bastards, they are also THE only reason they can gain from their corrupt practices, because without the Tax Paying masses there is no perpetual stream of cash to keep filling the trough at the rate all the many snouts empty it.

Anyway, I digess (catching Brand's Affliction :hehe: )

So, I agree to just (amicably) disagree, and we are not arguing - outside of the debate definition - but I think that you too summed it up pretty reasonably, that we just draw different conclusions.

[Toy Soldier]

As a suggestion for Kizzy, as I think there are a few of us who would genuinely like to discuss Trews videos as and when he makes them, maybe remake the thread in general discussion and specify it as being for people who regularly watch and enjoy The Trews and want to discuss it? In here it's probably inevitable that it'll quickly become a "rip Brand to shreds!!" thread, which isn't a problem per se, but IMO there's room for two different threads to coexist peacefully if people still want to do that :joker:. I was going to make one but it's your thread so I'll leave it up to you.

[Vicky.]

As a suggestion for Kizzy, as I think there are a few of us who would genuinely like to discuss Trews videos as and when he makes them, maybe remake the thread in general discussion and specify it as being for people who regularly watch and enjoy The Trews and want to discuss it? In here it's probably inevitable that it'll quickly become a "rip Brand to shreds!!" thread, which isn't a problem per se, but IMO there's room for two different threads to coexist peacefully if people still want to do that :joker:. I was going to make one but it's your thread so I'll leave it up to you.

This wouldnt work unfortunately :laugh: Infact specifying somethings for those who enjoy something seems to make more people who dont like it come to post about it

Would probably get less heated discussion about it though. In GC or c&g the quality of most of the posts will likely be 'brands a wanker' or 'brand on BB <3' or endless gifs etc etc

[kirklancaster]

This wouldnt work unfortunately :laugh: Infact specifying somethings for those who enjoy something seems to make more people who dont like it come to post about it

Would probably get less heated discussion about it though. In GC or c&g the quality of most of the posts will likely be 'brands a wanker' or 'brand on BB <3' or endless gifs etc etc

:laugh: Is this a sly way of saying T.S, Kizzy & Me are intellectuals Vicky? :joker:

[Toy Soldier]

Infraction Vicky! Insulting your own members!

I'm not going to lie, there is a good reason that 99.9% of my posts (and that is probably not even an exaggeration) are in this forum :joker:. I don't know what I was thinking. Maybe we could keep it in here and just put a "No U-Kippers Allowed!" sign up.

[Cherie]

:omgno: Vicky

[arista]

Infraction "Vicky! Insulting your own members! "

She is a Mod
Do Not Knock Her

[arista]

This bloke ? has to be without doubt one of the most stupid and dangerous idiots ever to breathe.

In the egotistical knobjockey stakes he is well out in front.


Yes he gets his Gangs
Breaking UK Laws

He will be Locked Up soon

[Kizzy]

As a suggestion for Kizzy, as I think there are a few of us who would genuinely like to discuss Trews videos as and when he makes them, maybe remake the thread in general discussion and specify it as being for people who regularly watch and enjoy The Trews and want to discuss it? In here it's probably inevitable that it'll quickly become a "rip Brand to shreds!!" thread, which isn't a problem per se, but IMO there's room for two different threads to coexist peacefully if people still want to do that :joker:. I was going to make one but it's your thread so I'll leave it up to you.

I could ask for it to be made a 'fan thread' like the BB section has? We could be called the 'Brandettes'? :D

[Toy Soldier]

Infraction "Vicky! Insulting your own members! "

She is a Mod
Do Not Knock Her
She might like though Arista.

[Toy Soldier]

I could ask for it to be made a 'fan thread' like the BB section has? We could be called the 'Brandettes'? :D
... ... .... .... ... I'm going to be honest... I'm unsure about the name...

[Kizzy]

How about the 'russlers'?

[Toy Soldier]

"Donald Where's Yer Trewsers"?

[Toy Soldier]

It'll be like the sharks vs jets.

... The Trewsers vs The Kippers.

[Kizzy]

It'll be like the sharks vs jets.

... The Trewsers vs The Kippers.

:joker: love it, looking forward to tomorrows trews :worship:

[Marsh.]

Yeah, the Kippers. There's a smell of rotting fish in here. :idc:

[Kizzy]

New TREWS :D

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[Kizzy]

fCp8C_90ers

[Kizzy]

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[Toy Soldier]

That "look left, look right, then cross" thing is genuinely crap. Who on earth came up with that? And who heard it and thought it was good idea to actually use it? :joker:

[Kizzy]

excellent points raised on both th lib dem and UKIP vids, really looking forward to the rest of Milibands interview :D

[Toy Soldier]

really looking forward to the rest of Milibands interview :D

Are you sure Kizzy? Look at Russell's eyes in that clip... he's waiting to go for Ed's throat, he doesn't support any of the big parties! What if they end up arguing? It'll be like Sophie's Choice for you :(

[Kizzy]

Are you sure Kizzy? Look at Russell's eyes in that clip... he's waiting to go for Ed's throat, he doesn't support any of the big parties! What if they end up arguing? It'll be like Sophie's Choice for you :(

I have faith in them both but Russel does have the air of a restrained Alsatian about him here..... Ed you better have your contrite yet confident and conscientious head on or it's getting bitten off! :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Here it is! the interview :D

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[Kizzy]

Well... If I'm totally honest I'm underwhelmed, he did have some good points but Ed was still a bit waffley he could've been a bit worried as Russel is a bit unpredictable and would throw in something totally bonkers, it went better than I feared even if it ended a little abruptly.
Kudos to Ed for having the balls to confront this political loose cannon.

[Crimson Dynamo]

fCp8C_90ers

what a cheap disgusting video. compare that to the speech I posted that Farage made to the EU

One is a principled,educated, elected speech by an adult who wants to change things for the better

and one is an immature chancer in his bedroom talking bollocks


jesus fecking wept

[kirklancaster]

what a cheap disgusting video. compare that to the speech I posted that Farage made to the EU

One is a principled,educated, elected speech by an adult who wants to change things for the better

and one is an immature chancer in his bedroom talking bollocks


jesus fecking wept

:worship: Too fecking right LT.

[Kizzy]

We haven't seen the document he's waving in that vid so I'm not going to be so quick to suggest all his suggestions during that speech are gospel.
Doesn't make Russels opinion of him any less valid either in fairness.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LBC phone in at the mo

85% say it was good move by Miliband

interesting

[Kizzy]

:cheer2:

[kirklancaster]

LBC phone in at the mo

85% say it was good move by Miliband

interesting

:nono: Stop feeding Kizzy good news LT - You know she starts crowing :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

remember blair and "im not bovvered"?

[Kizzy]

It's not good news for dave :smug:

[kirklancaster]

remember blair and "im not bovvered"?

:joker: Who can forget it.

[Kizzy]

That was for charity wasn't it?

[kirklancaster]

That was for charity wasn't it?

Maybe - but EVERYTHING else THAT corrupt TORY POSTER BOY BLAIR did during his 12 year reign was for his own charity - The Personal Bank of Tony.

[Kizzy]

Drifting off topic a tad, let's talk about russ some more :love:

[kirklancaster]

Drifting off topic a tad, let's talk about russ some more :love:

:joker::joker: I am seriously beginning to ADMIRE your single-minded OBSTINACY.

[Kizzy]

I just like to keep my threads orderly, no ranty tangents and waffle allowed :hehe:

[Toy Soldier]

I just like to keep my threads orderly, no ranty tangents and waffle allowed :hehe:

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/69/699516/review-mccain-potato-waffles-L-XPbxTO.jpeg

[kirklancaster]

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/69/699516/review-mccain-potato-waffles-L-XPbxTO.jpeg

:laugh: Very clever.

[the truth]

what a cheap disgusting video. compare that to the speech I posted that Farage made to the EU

One is a principled,educated, elected speech by an adult who wants to change things for the better

and one is an immature chancer in his bedroom talking bollocks


jesus fecking wept

ok in brands favour he again points out farage is privately educated and backed by a rich man...however by brands liberal standards isn't it wrong to judge a man by his background

brand is being overly liberal and overly politically correct in some ways which leads him to be bordering on disingenuous and ignoring the facts against....the net increase in population each year, the extre pressure this does put on services, the failure of our nhs t claim back on travel insurance probably runs to billions, the payment of benefits to immigrants children in other countries without paying into the system. farage has spent years exposing this and finally now its become politically correct to talk about it, the other parties are waking up....the liberal dogma has even meant the nhs in many cases doesn't allow the private insurance be used for people being cared for at home, instead the nhs foots the whole bill (or fights with social services on who pays) farage was wrongly shouted down by plaed cymru leader Leanne wood for asking about the fact 60% of aids injections are given to foreign visitors...is it a national health service or international? where do we draw the line

brand ignores the disaster of the European union, the endless double standards and different rules on immigration, health, taxes, benefits etc etc
I agree with brand on many things , don't we all? the corporate control, the different rules for the elite, etc but farage fights the EU AND THE EU has kept people poor and countries bankrupt.....the reality is the politically correct drive of new labour working class people poorer. liberals including brand have failed to acknowledge that let alone understand it. why doesn't he preach about vat too, that's the enslavement tax that's stops competition and prevents the little guy taking some power from the monopoly

[Kizzy]

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Greens :)

[the truth]

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Greens :)

yes and the actual bailing out of the banks was done by new labour

[Kizzy]

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Cameron is threatening your children; NO JOKE!.

[joeysteele]

yes and the actual bailing out of the banks was done by new labour

I don't know what else could be done at least in some way, when the banking crisis hit, peoples savings and accounts had to be protected.

I have no doubt at all, with the exception maybe of Northern Rock, that a Conservative,(or indeed any makeup of govt), would have in the end bailed the banks out.

As sickening as it was to see done,I feel there was little choice.

[Jack_]

Thought the Miliband interview was decent, kudos to him for doing it

Anyone seen the trailer they've released today though for Monday? Apparently there's a part they edited out and they're effectively teasing in the video that Russell is about to go back on the whole 'I don't vote' thing and perhaps endorse Labour. Probably won't be that but I would be ecstatic if so, or for the Greens

[joeysteele]

Thought the Miliband interview was decent, kudos to him for doing it

Anyone seen the trailer they've released today though for Monday? Apparently there's a part they edited out and they're effectively teasing in the video that Russell is about to go back on the whole 'I don't vote' thing and perhaps endorse Labour. Probably won't be that but I would be ecstatic if so, or for the Greens

I understand he has said people should vote to keep Caroline Lucas for the Greens in Brighton.

I saw nothing wrong at all with Ed Miliband doing the meeting or the contents of it either.

[Kizzy]

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Oooohhh.... Xcitin :D

[Kizzy]

zwGBTcIHN0U


Here are some more quotes from Russell Brand’s video.
What Miliband said to win over Russell Brand

In his video Russell Brand said he was persuaded to back Labour by what Ed Miliband said about his support for grassroots activism. (See 1.13pm.) Today Brand played a clip from what Miliband said in their interview last week that was not included in the edited version of the interview Brand released on Wednesday. (See 12.49am.) Here is the key quote in it from Miliband, in which Miliband explains his belief in the importance of politicians listening to what activists say.

One of the things that strikes me, and this is how we are trying to change the Labour party - and I think we’ve been actually quite successful at this - is that you’ve got to have a politics rooted in communities. The Tories are a virtual party these days. They exist with advertising and money, but they don’t have people ... Let me give you an example, the living wage. The living wage campaign did not come out of policy wonks. It came out of people in the 1970s in America in workplaces saying a living wage is the idea that if you go out to work, you should be able to live on that wage.

Brand said he had been won over by Ed Miliband saying that, as prime minister, he would welcome and respond to pressure from grassroots activists.
One thing I agree very sincerely with Ed on is that politics does not rain down on us. It comes from below. Movements putting pressure on governments. We don’t know that the limitations of the Labour administration are going to be. But we have just heard the leader of the Labour party saying that he welcomes and wants pressure from below. For me, what the interview meant is that Ed Miliband understands that people are pissed off, people have had enough of their needs being neglected because of the requirements of big business.

He said that, although he was known for not voting, he did believe people should be politically engaged day in, day, out, not just at elections. That is what democracy should be about, he said.
I know I have been Mr Don’t Vote. But, actually, what I mean is politics isn’t something that we can just be involved in every five years. Democracy is by every day, not just for elections. Democracy has to be something you are constantly involved in, whether you are students occupying your university, whether you are communities coming together to reclaim your housing, whether you are people running worker-led cooperatives. We have to confront big business. We have to confront people who are tearing apart London and socially cleansing.

He said he was urging people to back Ed Miliband because “he will listen”.
What I heard Ed Miliband say is, if we speak, he will listen. so, on that basis, I think we’ve got no choice but to take decisive action to end the danger of the Conservative party.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2015/may/04/election-2015-live-result-knife-edge-ken-clarke-warns-chaos-second-vote

[Kizzy]

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[the truth]

brand I don't give a stuff what you have to say to 10 million impressionable twitterers....ive wasted some time listening to your rants and calling ed balls a ***** yet here you are voting for the men who bankrupted us and sold us out to Europe who in turn bankrupted half the continent... and took us into illegal wars and allowed mass abuse in the nhs and made the gap between rich and poor bigger than for 200 years....oh and lead the liberal agenda to go easy on drugs so we now have some of the biggest drug related crime figures in the world. brand youre a crap actor, an awful presenter, a vein egotist and a fake campaigner who sold his soul...get stuffed

[Kizzy]

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How apt is my sig today :)

[the truth]

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How apt is my sig today :) totally inapt....labour were in bed with Murdoch too

[Kizzy]

Did you watch the vid?

[Marsh.]

Did you watch the vid?

Did he bugger. :laugh:

[the truth]

Did you watch the vid?

yeah absolutely nothing original in it.....trashed Murdoch as evil which of course he is, but ignored the fact labour were in bed with him too....labour allowed him to build his empires even bigger, labour saw monopolies grow and the wealth gap grow, labour were in bed with brooks and the spin doctors galore...he conveniently forget labour took us into illegals wars killing 100s of thousands on a pack of lies partly by another spin doctor Alistair Campbell......the sun is pernicious rag, though the pro labour rags are just as bad by covering up the atrocities in the public sector

as I said brand is totally over rated and up his own anus

[kirklancaster]

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I'm sorry, but the more I watch and listen to these videos, the more I cannot escape the fact that Brand is a not only a BUFFOON, but a very DANGEROUS BUFFOON because of the sheer amount of BUFFOONS who blindly follow him and hang on every piece of over-simplistic puerile tosh which emanates from his infantile mouth.

This child - I cannot call someone who is so mentally immature a MAN - is nothing but an egotist who spouts nonsensical rhetoric from a position of ignorance.

You ask 'The Truth'; ''Did you watch the vid?'', well I ask you; ''Did you watch the vid from a position of objective impartiality? Did you cut through the superficial juvenile tosh and actually analyse this and see it for the utter rubbish which it is?

The fact that you support Brand and constantly post these videos allows me to answer my own question; 'No you didn't', because if you had, you would not now be holding up this particular video as any kind of positive to convince others that Brand has anything intelligent or constructive to say other than some truths which we already know, and some inane 'revolutionary clap-trap' which plagiarist Brand has resurrected, recycled, and repackaged to pass off as his own 'revolutionary claptrap'.

In the first place; Brand DOES NOT VOTE, and is NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE, and should not therefore be given any kind of platform which helps 'legitimise' this moron's political views by a prospective future Prime Minister such as Milliband who is supposed to be a serious politician.

In the second place, Brand - who has spent years urging his looney followers NOT TO VOTE - now does a complete 360 degree about turn and urges them to VOTE LABOUR after only the briefest time in Milliban's company, and after being 'moved' by 'something' which Milliband said during that time.

'It doesn't take much to change a small mind that's touched.' does it Russell?

This 'about face' is nothing new for Brand - a fool who operates his stupid mouth without engaging any brain cells he might have - because he has had to do a 'U Turn' at other times - - most notably amid cringe-makingly embarrassingly when he wrote a hastily concocted article entitled;'' “Why I Oppose Anti-Semitism.” after being universally condemned for his ill-informed, juvenile, anti-Semitic rants against Israel and his call for a boycott targeting companies doing business with the Jewish state.

Just listen to the moron: He doesn't hate Jews because he once dropped acid at a Passover seder. He cried about the Holocaust. He thought had he been born earlier he could have been a Nazi gassing Jews. He did not INTEND to attack Israel.

Even Brand's comments about the ''First Political Rally'' which he attended in London for the striking Liverpool dockers in the late 1990s, are very revealing about the TRUE (lack of) intellect of this cretin:

“There were police horses galloping up Charing Cross Road, people ripping up pavements. I didn't think ‘About time, too – the Liverpool dockers are finally being heard here.’ I thought, ‘****in’ hell, this is brilliant.’” He related to it on a personal level. “The internal mayhem I'm feeling is spilling out everywhere. I loved it, and felt very connected to activism – particularly activism that feels loaded with potential. Not the oppositional activism that seems like there’s a stasis around it – earnestly sincere, but a monolith equal to the establishment.”

Oh, I could fill a hundred pages on the imbecility of this chump. But back to this all-revealing video:

When analysed, this video of Brand's - as all his others - is nothing more than an embarrassing obsequious squirm-fest of fallacies and lies.

In true false propaganda fashion, Brand DELIBERATELY lies when he states:

''According to Nigel Farage ALL of the problems in this country are the result of unskilled migrant labour.''

What an imbecilic LIAR. Farage DOES NOT claim that ALL the problems of this country are the result of unskilled Migrant Labour.

Farage CORRECTLY claims that unfettered immigration is but ONE of the CONTRIBUTARY reasons for this country's ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, and POLITICAL problems, because, under the highly caustic terms of our MEMBERSHIP of THE EUROPEAN UNION, we are FORCED to accomodate uncontrolled millions of immigrants (over 450 million from Europe alone who have the LEGAL RIGHT to come to live in the UK if they choose to), and are FORCED to legally SUSTAIN them and HOUSE and EDUCATE them, and FORCED to allow them to benefit from our NHS and Police and other services TO THE COST OF OUR OWN PEOPLE.

Brand's claims that immigrants contributed 20 billion pounds to the UK coffers last year, is pure unsubstantiated bunkum whose source is from those with a vested interest in remaining within the EU and in maintaining our 'Open Door' immigration policy - the very same, fabulously wealthy multi-National corporations who Brand the idiot is supposedly vehemently opposed to.

Those 'statistics' are the result of convoluted machievallian manipulating and have been countered by several respected authorities.

As for Brand's use of the fact that '' 30,000 Brits left Britain to claim abroad'' as some sort of justification for unfettered immigration into the UK - this is laughable:

Ordinary, decent, hard-working, hard-pressed WORKING people have roots; families, homes, debts, jobs, ties - they CANNOT just TAKE OFF for foreign climes and a more leisurely, care-free subsidised lifestyle in the sun , though I am CERTAIN that they would ALL love to be able to, so, FAR FROM Brand's statistic justifying our membership of the corrupt and crazy EU - IT INDICTS IT.

Obviously the majority these 30,000 'EMIGRANTS' are NOT ill or disabled (well NOT SO ILL OR DISABLED that it stops them being able to uproot, move and live in a foreign country). Obviously these 30,000 are claimants because there ARE NO JOBS for them in the UK. (well, APART from ALL THE JOBS which according to pro-EU and pro-Immigant supporters all the HARD-WORKING IMMIGRANTS into the UK manage to find and are doing).

Obviously - SOMETHING IS WRONG with Brand's and the EU supporters statistics and viewpoints.

If there WERE/ARE jobs within the UK which immigrants have filled in sufficient numbers to have contributed 20 BILLION POUNDS to the UK economy (AND THIS AFTER DEDUCTING THE COST OF IMMIGRANTS TO THE UK, REMEMBER) then obviously there WERE jobs available for the 30,000 malingering scrounging bastards who CHOSE to remain on benefits and who have CHOSEN a life in the sun to boot.

(Incidentally - THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE EU COUNTRY WHICH HAS JOBS GOING BEGGING FOR EVEN THEIR OWN PEOPLE, so IT IS PATENTLY OBVIOUS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE SCROUNGING BASTARDS HAVE NOT 'EMIGRATED' TO FIND WORK and a LIFE MORE PRODUCTIVE.)

Any idiotic system which allows such abuse by work-shy scroungers at the cost to hard-pressed ordinary tax-payers is to be condemned - as Nigel Farage condems it - without having to suffer imbecilic idiots such as Brand LYING about them.

Ironically, no one fits the statements below from Brand better than Brand himself:

''This is actually the nub of propaganda - to take people's emotional feelings and tie it through arbitrary means such as music and image to economic policies that do not relate in any way to the things that these people are saying''.

And if anyone really needed proof of egotist Brand's 'Messiah' self-delusions,here he is yet again, with another 'Freudian' slip:

''Even though I have cultivated my look and to some degree my identity on looking like some giddy err, fast talking SAVIOUR character''.

What an ABSOLUTE PRICK.

I implore any truly impartial FM who is interested in the TRUTH, to WATCH this video and SEE for themselves just how poor Ed Milliband SQUIRMS wth embarrassment as he tries to reign in imbecile Brand's over simplistic crapola and how he repeatedly struggles to correct him and stil remain polite;

7.55 Brand is in full flow and Ed is visibly squirming but tries from 8.32 to 8.43 to interject to halt Brand's runaway train of drivel, and once he succeeds, he does nothing but correct him:

''I don't think we can just kick over the traces right? we can't just say...''

When Brand resumes with his idiotic banality, it is with a statement which MAKES NO SENSE at all:

''Hasn't it gotta be, that if the interests of the banks start getting put before the interests of the people - Bank's suffer?'

Poor Ed responds with a patently fake embarrassed laugh, before embarrassingly dismissing Brand's over-simplistic garbage:

''That's one way of putting it''.

Before completely distancing himself from Brand's embarrassing nonsense:

''Now look...'' ''You can't just say...'''we've got to have a banking system..''

At 19.17 of this infantile squirm-Fest, hypocrite Brand once again puts his expensively shoed Capitalist foot firmly in his fake liberal-left mouth;

''Rupert Murdoch don't vote, yet somehow he gets to decide who runs our country.''

And Ed, once again self-consciously corrects moron Brand:

''I don't think he does decide any more.''

Brand conveniently forgets that the 'Show' business which has made him a multi-millionaire, is just another facet of 'Business'- that bedrock of Capitalism which he so detests. Yes,BUSINESS - where one side have something to SELL for the HIGHEST possible PROFIT - be it Goods, Services or Talents - and one side wants to BUY. As an Entertainer, Brand 'sold' his 'mundane' talents for OTT fees thus becoming a multi-millionaire out of this branch of the good old CAPITALIST system.

I have yet to see him return all these millions in self-flagellating disgust with himself.

Brand hoodwinks the Liberal Leftie YOOF who follow him because they do not look beyond his razzmatazz B.S. but Brand is NO REVOLUTIONARY SAVIOUR - He is a HYPOCRITICAL MORON, and this video DOES NOTHING for Ed Milliband's reputation - in fact,were I an undecided voter,this would determine me NOT to vote Labour.

[Kizzy]

'I'm sorry, but the more I watch and listen to these videos, the more I cannot escape the fact that Brand is a not only a BUFFOON, but a very DANGEROUS BUFFOON because of the sheer amount of BUFFOONS who blindly follow him and hang on every piece of over-simplistic puerile tosh which emanates from his infantile mouth.

This child - I cannot call someone who is so mentally immature a MAN - is nothing but an egotist who spouts nonsensical rhetoric from a position of ignorance.'

This is how I view Farage and his kippers, how odd :laugh:

I did watch, I viewed it objectively and yes I still agree with it.

He has more right to influence the electorate than Murdock, Brand at least has the right to vote here...He just chooses not to.

He has chosen to endorse Miliband as he sees him as the lesser of two evils... He may be right, who knows?

His musings on his impression of activism may not appeal to you, I see that.

Farage does suggest immigration is a contributory factor, he neglects to mention any others however which may be of equal or greater detriment to the country, all he does is perpetrate fear within communities and that has a destructive effect.

I appreciate you don't like the guy but personally and I'm no yoof I like his expressive style, he has editorials to correct any boasts that we're doing well, because we are not doing well... if he point's out contradictions made then kudos for doing that.

If that's how you feel then fine, berating others for their view and how it reflects on them as a person however is counterproductive though really.

[kirklancaster]

'I'm sorry, but the more I watch and listen to these videos, the more I cannot escape the fact that Brand is a not only a BUFFOON, but a very DANGEROUS BUFFOON because of the sheer amount of BUFFOONS who blindly follow him and hang on every piece of over-simplistic puerile tosh which emanates from his infantile mouth.

This child - I cannot call someone who is so mentally immature a MAN - is nothing but an egotist who spouts nonsensical rhetoric from a position of ignorance.'

This is how I view Farage and his kippers, how odd :laugh:

BUT THERE IS A WEALTH OF INCONVERTIBLE EVIDENCE THAT BRAND IS A BUFFOON,BUT NONE THAT FARAGE IS.

You CANNOT have VIEWED it OBJECTIVELY and STILL AGREE with it -

I did watch, I viewed it objectively and yes I still agree with it.

You CANNOT have VIEWED it OBJECTIVELY and STILL AGREE with it - THAT's AN OXYMORON.

He has more right to influence the electorate than Murdock, Brand at least has the right to vote here...He just chooses not to.

A MORON WHO DOES NOT EXERCISE HIS RIGHT TO VOTE IN A DEMOCRACY HAS NO RIGHT AT ALL TO BE TRYING TO INFLUENCE ANYONE ELSE. HE HAS FORFEIT THAT RIGHT.

He has chosen to endorse Miliband as he sees him as the lesser of two evils... He may be right, who knows?

HE HAS CHOSEN TO URGE HIS FOLLOWERS TO VOTE FOR MILLIBAND AFTER A COUPLE OF HOURS SPENT WITH HIM AND AFTER YEAR OF TELLING HIS OWN FOLLOWER NOT TO VOTE. HE HAS JUST REVEALED HIMSELF FOR THE FAKE 'CHE GUEVARA' IDIOT HE IS. LOL.

His musings on his impression of activism may not appeal to you, I see that.

HE MAKES NO SENSE, SO, NO IT DOES NOT.

Farage does suggest immigration is a contributory factor, he neglects to mention any others however which may be of equal or greater detriment to the country, all he does is perpetrate fear within communities and that has a destructive effect.

THANK YOU FOR CONCEDING THAT BRAND IS LYING WHEN HE SAYS THAT FARAGE BLAMES ALL THE UK'S PROBLEMS ON IMMIGRANTS. BUT YOU ARE WRONG WHEN YOU SAY THAT FARAGE DOES NOT MENTION OTHER CAUSES,BECAUSE HE DOES- MOST NOTABLY OUR INSANE MEMBERSHIP OF THE EU.

I appreciate you don't like the guy but personally and I'm no yoof I like his expressive style, he has editorials to correct any boasts that we're doing well, because we are not doing well... if he point's out contradictions made then kudos for doing that.

EXPRESSION IS NOTHING WITHOUT TRUTH. BRAND POINTS OUT SOME WELL DOCUMENTED TRUTHS, BUT THE REST OF HIS RAMBLINGS ARE PLAGIARISED REPACKAGED REVOLUTIONARY **** FROM OTHER DECADES, OR ABSOLUTE TWADDLE.

IT IS EASY TO CRITICISE ANY SYSTEM WHEN ONE OFFERS NO ALTERNATIVE.

If that's how you feel then fine, berating others for their view and how it reflects on them as a person however is counterproductive though really.

SORRY, BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN HERE.



Sorry that my Response is inside Your quoted text. :blush:

[Kizzy]

Sorry that my Response is inside Your quoted text. :blush:

I'm not wasting time arguing what defines a buffoon with you that would be silly.

Trust me, I watched totally objectively.

In your mind he forfeits that right, but in actuality he has the right to say whatever he likes, we have free speech remember?

Or..... he changed his mind, it does happen. He may now feel voting is suddenly very important for some reason.

Does he say all?..... He highlights a few maybe. I feel Farages immigration issues and the problems he has with the EU are two sides of the same coin, but that's just my opinion.

He has offered an alternative, social activism.

I meant referring to those who 'blindly follow' Brand as buffoons, I wouldn't suggest anyone who blindly followed Farage was a buffoon.

[the truth]

I'm not wasting time arguing what defines a buffoon with you that would be silly.

Trust me, I watched totally objectively.

In your mind he forfeits that right, but in actuality he has the right to say whatever he likes, we have free speech remember?

Or..... he changed his mind, it does happen. He may now feel voting is suddenly very important for some reason.

Does he say all?..... He highlights a few maybe. I feel Farages immigration issues and the problems he has with the EU are two sides of the same coin, but that's just my opinion.

He has offered an alternative, social activism.

I meant referring to those who 'blindly follow' Brand as buffoons, I wouldn't suggest anyone who blindly followed Farage was a buffoon.

just like your hero brand, you've told a heap of lies about farage and of course have zero evidence to back up the false claims

[Kizzy]

just like your hero brand, you've told a heap of lies about farage and of course have zero evidence to back up the false claims

I have?....:/

[the truth]

I have?....:/

yes you have and the majority of voters it seems agree too:joker:

[Kizzy]

yes you have and the majority of voters it seems agree too:joker:

The electorate think I've told lies? :worry:

[the truth]

The electorate think I've told lies? :worry:

just like new labour who fail to learn the lessons of failure:cheer2:

[arista]

Trews News

No Help to Kizzys Labour

Fact

[kirklancaster]

Trews News

No Help to Kizzys Labour

Fact

True Arista - In fact they have lost their trews and their seats - thrown out by the seat of their trews. I bet they think it's 'pants'.:laugh:

[Livia]

So Mr Brand... that worked then.

[kirklancaster]

So Mr Brand... that worked then.

:laugh::laugh: Yeah Liv - For Dave Cameron. I truly believe that Ed's ludicrous stunt with idiot Brand helped seal his doom with everyone over the age of 20 or with anyone possessed of an IQ greater than a peanut.

[Livia]

:laugh::laugh: Yeah Liv - For Dave Cameron. I truly believe that Ed's ludicrous stunt with idiot Brand helped seal his doom with everyone over the age of 20 or with anyone possessed of an IQ greater than a peanut.

Well it surely didn't help. I've said for a while that Ed Miliband was one of the greatest weapons in the Tory arsenal. With a different leader I think Labour would have done so much better. And the stunt with Brand, who just weeks ago was telling people not to vote, was the final nail in the coffin. Whoever thought it could have worked or been even in the least positive, needs a bit of a rethink.

[Kizzy]

It was nothing to do with Brand, oh the crowing will probably suggest Ed was at fault due to him being too left wing, that didn't appeal to the country as it stands in my opinion.
I hope Brand continues to support Labour and the social values it holds.

[Livia]

Ed was totally the wrong man for the job with the most successful charisma bypass in history. Even the Labour candidates at the count last night were agreeing.

Brand can support who he likes, it obviously makes not a jot of difference with serious voters.

[Kizzy]

I wouldn't call them serious, that's your interpretation it's most certainly not mine.
I'm not interested either in charisma as the main focus for my support of a politician. Obfuscation of the facts, perpetuation of fear and low brow name calling won the election for the tories, it's what they know and do well obviously.

I still support his decision to engage with a wider audience. Winning an election by hiding and orchestrating bogus letters of support, planting party activists in question time as 'undecided voters' and having a media curcus working to your advantage is not standing by your policies it's obscuring them.

Again I hope Brand continues to help expose governmental misinformation as well as supporting Labour and the left.

[arista]

Kizzy your avatar looks so wrong now


R. Brand would be better

[Crimson Dynamo]

try this one Kizzler

http://www.sqleadership.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lost.jpg

:hehe:

[Kizzy]

Right I'll change it.

[Livia]

I wouldn't call them serious, that's your interpretation it's most certainly not mine.
I'm not interested either in charisma as the main focus for my support of a politician. Obfuscation of the facts, perpetuation of fear and low brow name calling won the election for the tories, it's what they know and do well obviously.

I still support his decision to engage with a wider audience. Winning an election by hiding and orchestrating bogus letters of support, planting party activists in question time as 'undecided voters' and having a media curcus working to your advantage is not standing by your policies it's obscuring them.

Again I hope Brand continues to help expose governmental misinformation as well as supporting Labour and the left.

Ahhhh... if only the misguided ex-labour voters were as clued-up and serious as you. Because if they were swayed by the Conservative campaign then they really are quite dim. It's a shame you have such a low view of them.

All the excuses in the world (and I'm hearing a few...) don't make up for the fact that Labour lost hideously, and the reason for that is that they were led by the wrong man. So many people saw that. But you're sticking with the loser.

And yes, I expect Brand will continue to do what he's doing all the time it raises his own dubious profile.

[kirklancaster]

try this one Kizzler

http://www.sqleadership.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lost.jpg

:hehe:

:joker::joker::joker:

[Kizzy]

Ahhhh... if only the misguided ex-labour voters were as clued-up and serious as you. Because if they were swayed by the Conservative campaign then they really are quite dim. It's a shame you have such a low view of them.

All the excuses in the world (and I'm hearing a few...) don't make up for the fact that Labour lost hideously, and the reason for that is that they were led by the wrong man. So many people saw that. But you're sticking with the loser.

And yes, I expect Brand will continue to do what he's doing all the time it raises his own dubious profile.

Yes yes they are dim... exceptionally dim. Why is it a shame I have a low view of them, many on here have a low view of lots of people don't they?

Yes I stick by Eds left wing ethos, he achieved the position of leader of his party, he failed to win the election but overall I wouldn't class him as a loser personally.

I being more positive like to see the good in what Mr Brand does here.

[Kizzy]

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[Livia]

Yes yes they are dim... exceptionally dim. Why is it a shame I have a low view of them, many on here have a low view of lots of people don't they?

Yes I stick by Eds left wing ethos, he achieved the position of leader of his party, he failed to win the election but overall I wouldn't class him as a loser personally.

I being more positive like to see the good in what Mr Brand does here.

As you seem so keen on George Orwell quotes, here's one for you, I hope it helps:

Happiness can exist only in acceptance.

[arista]

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Yes Russ
you are not with us
you are on another planet


You Assume much to much.

Become a Real MP or FECK OFF

[arista]

Right I'll change it.


Well Done

[Kizzy]

As you seem so keen on George Orwell quotes, here's one for you, I hope it helps:

Happiness can exist only in acceptance.

here's one for you.

'The aim of a joke is not to degrade the human being, but to remind him that he is already degraded.'

[Niamh.]

Is this some sort of Quote off? :unsure:

[Livia]

here's one for you.

'The aim of a joke is not to degrade the human being, but to remind him that he is already degraded.'

That's a very good one for you to try to remember. You should have a think about this one too:

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.

[Livia]

Is this some sort of Quote off? :unsure:

Oh yeah... I have Google, I can keep this up for weeks!

[Kizzy]

Is this some sort of Quote off? :unsure:

No it's Liv derailing my thread, ban her.

[Livia]

Disagreeing with you is not derailing!

[Kizzy]

Disagreeing with you is not derailing!

How about you comment on my thread topic and not obsess about my sig (again)

[Cherie]

Personally I think Nicola S helped lose Labour, her very public badgering of Ed to join forces to keep the Tories out remained in my mind and probably many others long after the debates finished. The Scots are not the only ones who voted with Nationalistic pride

[Kizzy]

Personally I think Nicola S helped lose Labour, her very public badgering of Ed to join forces to keep the Tories out remained in my mind and probably many others long after the debates finished. The Scots are not the only ones who voted with Nationalistic pride

I agree I was just chatting to Livia about it on another thread. Brands response was pretty muted, surprised about that if I'm honest :/

[kirklancaster]

Is this some sort of Quote off? :unsure:

:joker::joker::joker:

[kirklancaster]

Personally I think Nicola S helped lose Labour, her very public badgering of Ed to join forces to keep the Tories out remained in my mind and probably many others long after the debates finished. The Scots are not the only ones who voted with Nationalistic pride

:clap1::clap1::clap1: True - I have no fear of Ed Milliband but the SNP is a whole different ballgame.

[kirklancaster]

Oh yeah... I have Google, I can keep this up for weeks!

:nono: ''Oh yeah... I have Google'' - You MEAN; ''Oh yeah... I have Google TOO'' :laugh:

[Kizzy]

I also have you tube... it's where I find these videos. where I get my information is very interesting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

looking back the whole Brand thing was an utter fiasco and in years to come will be used as an example of what not to do..

[Kizzy]

Do you think, politicians shouldn't attempt to address the concerns of the disenfranchised then?
Hmmmmm radical.

[kirklancaster]

Do you think, politicians shouldn't attempt to address the concerns of the disenfranchised then?
Hmmmmm radical.

But Brand is NOT a politician.

[Kizzy]

But Brand is NOT a politician.

Ed is... and he was canvassing the spokesperson for the electorate who are too apathetic to see why voting is a necessity for the greater good ( in this case, in my opinion)
If he inflenced one person to vote, or be engaged socially and or politically isn't that the job of a good politician?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do you think, politicians shouldn't attempt to address the concerns of the disenfranchised then?
Hmmmmm radical.

not by pandering to people like Brand no. he represents no one but himself

[kirklancaster]

Ed is... and he was canvassing the spokesperson for the electorate who are too apathetic to see why voting is a necessity for the greater good ( in this case, in my opinion)
If he inflenced one person to vote, or be engaged socially and or politically isn't that the job of a good politician?

But Brand isn't even REGISTERED to vote and DOESN'T vote? How apathetic is that?

[Kizzy]

not by pandering to people like Brand no. he represents no one but himself

Really? he's been making these vids to highlight sociopolitical issues for a year and is an activist for those who need a voice... should he be doing something else?

[kirklancaster]

Really? he's been making these vids to highlight sociopolitical issues for a year and is an activist for those who need a voice... should he be doing something else?

And I thought he was an activist for those who need a quid.

[Kizzy]

But Brand isn't even REGISTERED to vote and DOESN'T vote? How apathetic is that?

I said brand is the spokesperson for the apathetic... he may have influenced some of the yoof that were previously totally disengaged, that's a good thing right?

[Kizzy]

And I thought he was an activist for those who need a quid.

Not sure what you're driving at, why did the fact they met offend you so much?

[the truth]

hes shallow narcissist

[MTVN]

He’s the self-styled revolutionary who backed Ed Miliband at the Election and advocates the overthrow of ‘corporate tyranny’.

But The Mail on Sunday can reveal Russell Brand is himself embracing capitalism, trademarking a logo using his own spelling of ‘revolution’.

With supreme irony, his company has reserved the right to use the logo, with backwards letters spelling ‘love’, on trinkets, stationery, wallets – even lingerie.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3075121/Poor-old-Russell-wants-launch-revolution-quaintly-capitalist-fashion-wants-brand-spelling-sell-trinkets-masses.html#ixzz3Zje7MgWN
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Russell Brand is trademarking his own spelling of the word 'revolution'
His company has reserved right to use the logo with letters spelling 'love'
Trademark can be used on trinkets, stationery, wallets and even lingerie
He has been selling T-shirts with similar logo on his website for at least £30


:joker::joker::joker:


what a joke. Kizzy you need to shut this thread down asap

[Kizzy]

:joker:

What's so funny, how can you fund a revolution if you have no revenue...
If he sells 'Branded' (geddit) goods and it benefits those he works with and for what's the problem?
The mail stepping up their hate campaign due to his anti tory stance during the election? :idc:

[MTVN]

Brand is hardly going to be short on funds, and it's not a revolution, it's a marketing ploy. A revolution should not be so exclusive that you can be prosecuted if you want to take up its logo. All genuinely radical activists must think he's a complete tool.

[Kizzy]

Brand is hardly going to be short on funds, and it's not a revolution, it's a marketing ploy. A revolution should not be so exclusive that you can be prosecuted if you want to take up its logo. All genuinely radical activists must think he's a complete tool.

Why would he use his own money?...
He wouldn't make anything to aid anyone if there was someone after selling knock off trews goods due to their popularity would there? I can see his reasoning.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/10/01/23A369F400000578-3075121-Trademark_Russell_Brand_is_embracing_capitalism_tr ademarking_a_l-a-59_1431218698784.jpg

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/09/22/2286F62000000578-0-image-m-6_1431206999115.jpg

His new trade mark design
for his products

[bots]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/09/22/2286F62000000578-0-image-m-6_1431206999115.jpg

His new trade mark design
for his products

Pretentious claptrap :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Responding to a question on Twitter last year on where the book profits would go, he said they would fund the Trew Era Cafe in Hackney, East London, a ‘social enterprise to get recovering addicts into work’.

The star himself added: ‘I funded Trew Era Cafe as promised. With any lolly we procure, we’ll set up more enterprises to help people and build community.’

Try harder mail... :idc:

[Kizzy]

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[the truth]

fair play that was funny stuff...Cameron better start in life? he went straight from the vagina into a top hat lol

[Kizzy]

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[Kizzy]

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[Kizzy]

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[the truth]

brands videos do have some impact, he has some smart people with him making watchable videos questioning poiliticians....but in the end Im not convinced and hes not really trusted. hes clearly a hardcore liberal...But the revolution isn't going in that direction, hes not a champion of the people and his politically correct dogma is out of step now with a tide of rebellion where people see past political correctness to find the real truth. brands pro drugs tirade is again out of step. people are sick of losing the war on drugs. drug related crime here is off the scale tens of thousands worse than the usa....the fact brand goes from playing the educated leftie to the clueless cockney comic when quizzed about what the leaders should actually do....he offers no opinion at all? that's spineless. he mocks he taunts he ridicules but he doesn't have the guts to suggest a way forward. I think hes wrong about drugs, he says nothing about jobs or job creation, he says nothing about Europe, he says nothing about nationalisation or unions nor does he take history into account in his rants...in the end he isn't really saying much of any depth , hes a smug attention seeker on an ego trip.

[Toy Soldier]

I agree truth, he makes great observations of the problems (and I enjoy his videos for that alone) but doesn't offer much in the way of solutions, but then, I find myself in that position a lot too, being able to see the glaring unfairness and downright horror in the world but not really being able to offer any way to change it. I suspect that perhaps Brand just finds it the way I do: There aren't really any solutions. The world is full of too many people (the population boom over the last few hundred years is terrifying), too many different ideologies, too many seeking power.

Quite simply, no one can come up with a way to make it work because it just doesn't work.

[Kizzy]

He doesn't profess to have the answers, he just shines a light on the real problems behind issues that are as per put down to anything but corrupt business and or governmental practice.

[the truth]

He doesn't profess to have the answers, he just shines a light on the real problems behind issues that are as per put down to anything but corrupt business and or governmental practice.


hes not a politician but hes not an artist either and in the end he is so spineless he has less productive ideas than the average man on the street....

compared to someone who influenced popular culture , political and cultural thinking, like Michael moore who does infinitely more homework than brand, or oliver stones epic movies and the hidden truths of America or political heavyweights like tony benn, Michael foot, etc etc hed be debated out of the room within 5 minutes....brand is light years behind imo....or even take bob Dylan or even great journalists like alan wicker, david frost, or poltical comics like bill hicks, brand comes up way short, hes a symptom of the times...or compare to the real peoples poet bob Dylan , a man who questions all of society through his art. brand doesn't shine his light everywhere he shines it where it suits him and his agendas...that makes him a smaller less honest person imo...brand is also a lousy listener which is something which turns me off any person....bob Dylan questioned everyone and everybody with his incomparable genius....he made us question, he made us think , he bamboozled and delighted us leaving confused quizzical and enriched. yet Dylan himself didn't try to make himself the star, he just pointed his inquisitive razor sharp torch at the unseen subtleties and tells us of rich detailed tales we may have missed...yet Dylan himself doesn't exist as a celebrity, hes not even the person we try to paint him as, because he cant be put in a box or labelled, hes just too big for that...I just don't feel that way about brand at all...hes good in a limited way to expose the donuts working on some news channels but when he tries to tell millions of kids to think in such black and white terms and not to vote, I do worry about his influence....id even say hes quite dangerous as his simplistic rants may work in a dumbed down era where the attention span of average joe is now less than 2 minutes, that will always get a round of applause or cheap laugh from a hand picked brainless tv audience, allied to his gutless lack of actual ideas and liberal leanings have enormous influence on impressionable kids who tend to view the world through black and white, rather than rich complex ambiguous matrix of dylans colourful grey world

[Kizzy]

I'm not sure why he offends you so much, His vids are just a stream of consciousness... he isn't a musician a politician or an investigative journalist.
Just a comedian, a bloke who has an opinion pulling his views from his experiences as a student, low income earner, addict and celebrity.
They aren't the musings of a philosopher just a man with flaws, there's no contract he has to sign have his say or for you to disagree.

[the truth]

I'm not sure why he offends you so much, His vids are just a stream of consciousness... he isn't a musician a politician or an investigative journalist.
Just a comedian, a bloke who has an opinion pulling his views from his experiences as a student, low income earner, addict and celebrity.
They aren't the musings of a philosopher just a man with flaws, there's no contract he has to sign have his say or for you to disagree.

He doesn't offend me , I don't hate the guy, in fact I agree with some of his musings and even find him amusing at times, you see unlike him I don't see the world in black and white. But I just don't rate him highly overall and I distrust him and I think he can do some damage. Hes not a comedian , hes not an actor really, im not sure what he is. perhaps that's part of the problem. I hope the weaker minded or the impressionable don't let him do their thinking for them

[Kizzy]

Why on earth would they? You would have to be pretty feeble minded to gauge all your opinions from the guy :/

[the truth]

Why on earth would they? You would have to be pretty feeble minded to gauge all your opinions from the guy :/

many are easily influenced sadly

[Kizzy]

many are easily influenced sadly

Yes that's why we have a conservative government sadly :idc:

[the truth]

Yes that's why we have a conservative government sadly :idc:

wrong. People are easily influenced by passing fads like Russell brand who has no depth and not even the backbone to offer any practical ideas
the tories are the lesser of the 2 evils at this moment in time....though of course they will be judged on a daily basis as their government rolls on and no buck passing to the lib dems

new labour and their fans were easily influenced by bliars spin and lies....that of course lead us all to hell in a handbasket

tories are wolves , new labour are wolves in sheeps clothing

we need a new genuine honest progressive socialist leader with integrity , I cant see such a person yet

[Kizzy]

wrong. People are easily influenced by passing fads like Russell brand who has no depth and not even the backbone to offer any practical ideas
the tories are the lesser of the 2 evils at this moment in time....though of course they will be judged on a daily basis as their government rolls on and no buck passing to the lib dems

new labour and their fans were easily influenced by bliars spin and lies....that of course lead us all to hell in a handbasket

tories are wolves , new labour are wolves in sheeps clothing

we need a new genuine honest progressive socialist leader with integrity , I cant see such a person yet

All he advocates is that you look at all things objectively how can that be wrong? Is the saying not believe none of what you read and only half of that you see?....

[Kizzy]

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[Kizzy]

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[arista]

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Kizzy "Fight Back"
why does he bother
he can pay for Top Lawyers
the Fools that Follow him can not.


He should run as a MP
or just Feck Off
Fact

[Kizzy]

What is this obsession with him or anyone only being allowed a voice if they're a politician?... :/

[arista]

What is this obsession with him or anyone only being allowed a voice if they're a politician?... :/

As a MP he can help real people
and change laws.

[the truth]

What is this obsession with him or anyone only being allowed a voice if they're a politician?... :/

ifs your new labour who banned free speech....unless of course its bashing the rich

[the truth]

As a MP he can help real people
and change laws.

russel brand is a lot more dangerous than nigel farage and a damn sight less honest sincere realistic hard working brave or productive.....farage has been proven right about EVERYTHING

[JoshBB]

russel brand is a lot more dangerous than nigel farage and a damn sight less honest sincere realistic hard working brave or productive.....farage has been proven right about EVERYTHING

No he hasn't.

[the truth]

No he hasn't.

im afraid he has and everything you've said on this thread is uninformed nonsense

farage has always had his facts and figures quoting who our borders are open to , how many people , how many net have arrived....hes exposed the fact our nhs doesn't even bothered claiming back on travel insurance, let alone other insurances.....that the national health service gives aids patients 60% of its budget....our own people who have been here decades and paid into the pot have to wait , sometimes until they die....child benefits sent back to eqypt , Algeria, iran, etc etc etc this is utter madness the radicalisation in the schools the mosques too ....all these benefits here and sent abroad without even paying any national insurance as we all have to do? farage has been to parliament in European and exposed the endless waste cover ups corruption and red tape for years....he is a rich man he didn't need to , hes done this country an enormous service...now ALL parties are folliwing him because they didn't have the guts to expose this themselves

hes right about everything

ps you didn't answer me, have you read the eu constitution? didn't think so...farage has

[Kizzy]

ifs your new labour who banned free speech....unless of course its bashing the rich

He is rich, is he bashing himself?...
It's strange how one bloke doing a 5 min you tube vid can cause so much outrage :/

[the truth]

He is rich, is he bashing himself?...
It's strange how one bloke doing a 5 min you tube vid can cause so much outrage :/

too much bishop bashing is his problem.....he shows no empathy for victims of crackheads...all his attention his focussed on his being more compassionate to crackheads...I say protect the peaceful majority first then offer help to the druggies who earn and deserve it

[kirklancaster]

No he hasn't.

What then, has he been WRONG about?

Not IMMIGRATION because Cameron is now SHAMELESSLY making all the same noises once he realised just how much the Great british Public AGREE with Farage's TRUTH.

Not the EU because Cameron has now promised a referendum after he realised just how much a growing percentage the Great British Public AGREE with Farage's TRUTH despite the pro-EU propaganda media machine unjustly attacking and fallaciously ridiculing Farage at every opportunity.

Not Farage's proposal to find the savings being unjustly 'won' from the Austerity Measures by reducing our banal Foreign Aid Budget - a huge proportion of which Billions has been corruptly stolen, misappropriated, wasted on Vanity Projects or wasted on downright - - foreseeable -- failures.

[kirklancaster]

He is rich, is he bashing himself?...
It's strange how one bloke doing a 5 min you tube vid can cause so much outrage :/

It's the idiots who swallow his shallow transparent tripe as if it was a New Gospel and worship him blindly as the 'New Messiah' figure which he is cultivating who are dangerous.

[kirklancaster]

Kizzy "Fight Back"
why does he bother
he can pay for Top Lawyers
the Fools that Follow him can not.


He should run as a MP
or just Feck Off
Fact

:clap1::clap1::clap1: You are truly most wise Arista.

[Kizzy]

too much bishop bashing is his problem.....he shows no empathy for victims of crackheads...all his attention his focussed on his being more compassionate to crackheads...I say protect the peaceful majority first then offer help to the druggies who earn and deserve it

Hmmm... if you subscribe to your view that some people are more 'worthy' then I'm sure that makes sense. I'm not one fortunately.

[kirklancaster]

Hmmm... if you subscribe to your view that some people are more 'worthy' then I'm sure that makes sense. I'm not one fortunately.

So is Peter Sutcliffe or Jihadi John AS worthy as your Mother, Father, Child?

[Kizzy]

It's the idiots who swallow his shallow transparent tripe as if it was a New Gospel and worship him blindly as the 'New Messiah' figure which he is cultivating who are dangerous.

Well there's nobody holding a gun to your head to watch it, we all have views others feel are unorthodox.
There's nothing inherently dangerous about listening to the views of others in my opinion, if you approach them with a rational objective mind.

[kirklancaster]

Well there's nobody holding a gun to your head to watch it, we all have views others feel are unorthodox.
There's nothing inherently dangerous about listening to the views of others in my opinion, if you approach them with a rational objective mind.

But you are NOT approaching idiot Brand with a rational objective mind Kizzy - you are in a state of denial and continuing to mindlessly post all his crapola videos despite being made aware of the truth about his scrambled, confused self-contradictory ideologies, and the true self-serving reasons behind his politicising.

No one is 'holding a gun to my head and forcing me to watch it' no more than Islamic Hate Preachers Anjem Choudary and Mizanur Rahman ever forced me to listen to their bile, but being a responsible, mature adult who CARES about his country and his children and family's future in it, I am FORCED by responsibility and a sense of vigilance to be aware of what toxic bile ALL such DANGEROUS political crackpots are spewing out, if such bile is likely to CORRUPT and RADICALISE naive and impressionable people to the degree that their indoctrination ENDANGERS this country and my children's and families future in it.

Cretin Brand is as dangerous in his way to our democracy as Choudary and Rahman.

[Kizzy]

So is Peter Sutcliffe or Jihadi John AS worthy as your Mother, Father, Child?

Oh just stop with your bizarre extremes, we shouldn't watch trews because he associates with ex addicts and that means that we now think more about jihadi john than our families?... I'm sorry that's just 3 degrees of separation too far :laugh:

[arista]

:clap1::clap1::clap1: You are truly most wise Arista.


Thank You Kirk

[Kizzy]

But you are NOT approaching idiot Brand with a rational objective mind Kizzy - you are in a state of denial and continuing to mindlessly post all his crapola videos despite being made aware of the truth about his scrambled, confused self-contradictory ideologies, and the true self-serving reasons behind his politicising.

No one is 'holding a gun to my head and forcing me to watch it' no more than Islamic Hate Preachers Anjem Choudary and Mizanur Rahman ever forced me to listen to their bile, but being a responsible, mature adult who CARES about his country and his children and family's future in it, I am FORCED by responsibility and a sense of vigilance to be aware of what toxic bile ALL such DANGEROUS political crackpots are spewing out, if such bile is likely to CORRUPT and RADICALISE naive and impressionable people to the degree that their indoctrination ENDANGERS this country and my children's and families future in it.
Cretin Brand is as dangerous in his way to our democracy as Choudary and Rahman.

I'm sorry... Are you trying to suggest I don't know my own mind?

You obviously don't have any interest in this thread other than slurring those who watch these vids..for what reason isn't really clear.
Nobody is being radicalised, there is nothing that would enrage my sense of social responsibility to such an extent that I thought that these videos were corrupting the nation, that is a total overreaction.
Has there been any crimes committed that can be directly linked to the trews? No. In fact there is an incredible amount of social cohesion and community enterprise and togetherness been created. I don't share your pessimism.

[the truth]

Well there's nobody holding a gun to your head to watch it, we all have views others feel are unorthodox.
There's nothing inherently dangerous about listening to the views of others in my opinion, if you approach them with a rational objective mind.

yet your party of new labour gave away our country to the European union and wouldn't even allow us to debate it, let alone have a referendum? talk about a walking contradiction. scumbag warmongering spin doctor Alistair Campbell said it was dangerous to even allow the british public to debate the European union? anti democratic duplicitous warmonger........but new labour are so vile so dishonest so plain evil they have never even brought themselves to apologise to the british people or the people in Iraq and the millions of relatives of the innocents murdered thanks to new labour

[Kizzy]

yet your party of new labour gave away our country to the European union and wouldn't even allow us to debate it, let alone have a referendum? talk about a walking contradiction. scumbag warmongering spin doctor Alistair Campbell said it was dangerous to even allow the british public to debate the European union? anti democratic duplicitous warmonger........but new labour are so vile so dishonest so plain evil they have never even brought themselves to apologise to the british people or the people in Iraq and the millions of relatives of the innocents murdered thanks to new labour

Comment on the thread and NOT my personal political views please.

[the truth]

I'm sorry... Are you trying to suggest I don't know my own mind?

You obviously don't have any interest in this thread other than slurring those who watch these vids..for what reason isn't really clear.
Nobody is being radicalised, there is nothing that would enrage my sense of social responsibility to such an extent that I thought that these videos were corrupting the nation, that is a total overreaction.
Has there been any crimes committed that can be directly linked to the trews? No. In fact there is an incredible amount of social cohesion and community enterprise and togetherness been created. I don't share your pessimism.

hes posted a load of relevant stuff to the thread and made more contribution than you...you pretend its irrelevant when its not. predictable disingenuous deflection tactics from a new labour fan.

the most pessimism shown is by you towards the tories , towards ukip , towards productive common sense ideas like utilising scanners in hospitals, aiming for a better 7 day a week service, cutting back on our EU waste and the sea of red tape and getting out of the 587 page EU constitution which you of course have never read.....as for brand do you think decriminalising drugs is really the best way to go? when a reporter asked brand what about the 63 million silent majority who don't take drugs who are so often robbed mugged or abused by drug takers..brand responded furiously,, are you calling me a criminal? what a dangerous attention seeking fake

[Kizzy]

hes posted a load of relevant stuff to the thread and made more contribution than you...you pretend its irrelevant when its not. predictable disingenuous deflection tactics from a new labour fan.

the most pessimism shown is by you towards the tories , towards ukip , towards productive common sense ideas like utilising scanners in hospitals, aiming for a better 7 day a week service, cutting back on our EU waste and the sea of red tape and getting out of the 587 page EU constitution which you of course have never read.....as for brand do you think decriminalising drugs is really the best way to go? when a reporter asked brand what about the 63 million silent majority who don't take drugs who are so often robbed mugged or abused by drug takers..brand responded furiously,, are you calling me a criminal? what a dangerous attention seeking fake

Can you comment on the thread and not me please.

[the truth]

Can you comment on the thread and not me please.

you've attacked me many times, hypocrite:nono:

[kirklancaster]

I'm sorry... Are you trying to suggest I don't know my own mind?

You obviously don't have any interest in this thread other than slurring those who watch these vids..for what reason isn't really clear.
.

What a joke of a fallaciously deflective response.

I don't have any interest in this thread? Only enough to actually analyse Brand's actual BS videos unlike you who merely paste links to them. For example: Have you EVER responded to the VALID comments this post of mine on here?

"I saw a short clip of him a while ago and actually started to warm to him because he seemed sincere in what he was saying, but this crap has just put me right back to my original appraisal of him that he is an insignificant, egotistical prat who spouts shallow bollox and does not make sense.

"In a way Armageddon is coming ... For the individual" -- WTF does that mean? It's just meaningless twaddle.

He neither knows The Bible, nor understands the ramifications of total nuclear war for the idiot to believe that 'Armageddon' - in either context - will be an 'individual' experience.

I noticed as well that the only message Brand did not read out in its entirety was the pro UKIP one from Mikeys4U who reasoned with him to "Try looking at the policies and not the people behind them" which he neither read nor dealt with but flashed past at the speed of sound while the message image - unlike the others - disappeared just as quickly.

Instead of addressing the points Mikeys4U made, Brand produces more rhetoric, like a rabbit from a magicians hat, and drones about "Blaming vulnerable people for problems created by powerful people" which is yet more meaningless 'New World Order' twaddle, because no one is blaming 'vulnerable people' for the very evident, irrefutable corruption and Machiavellian crimes of the 'powers that be'.

However, without actually verbalising that he means 'UKIP blaming immigration' Brand links in to a clip of the now hackneyed 'Cassetteboy's 'Emperor's New Clothes Rap'.

But I challenge anyone, anywhere, to PROVE to me; that any UKIP spokesperson has ever blamed ALL this country's problems on immigration.

Our 'Open Door' Immigration policy is creating many new problems (some of which have yet to fully materialise) and increasing many of our existing ones, but it is not THE cause of all our problems and NO UKIP politician or spokesperson has ever claimed otherwise.

I have written a new version of Cassetteboy's rap especially for Brand. Altogether now, come on, sing along:

Kirkboy's - 'The Nonentity's New Career Choice Crap'

Want a massive platform? Get a congregation.
Wanna be adored? Bull**** a gullible Nation.
Wanna stay employed? Cause consternation.
Wanna obscure your ignorance? Use oral defecation.
Wanna fecking emigrate Brand? Kirk'll drive you to the station.

When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

And when it comes to some of the immigrants whose cause he so fervently champions, Brand is just as infuriatingly hypocritical; Scream and Rail against our system whilst enjoying its benefits, and the Democratic Freedom it affords to scream and rail in the first place.

All in all - a First Class Prick so deserving of a First Class One Way Ticket To Palookaville - or Syria or fecking anywhere but the UK which he seems to detest so much:

What a world, (what a world) what a place, (what a place)
Ain't you glad you're a member of the human race.

Now False Prophet Brand came back from the USA
To sing at the Albert Hall,
He sang his songs of protest
And fairer shares for all.
He sang how the poor were much too poor
And the rich too rich by far,
Then he drove back to his penthouse
In his brand new Rolls Royce car."

NO YOU HAVE NOT.

Have you ever responded to the comments in THIS post of mine?

YOUR QUOTE: Quote: Originally Posted by Kizzy
"The subject as defined by the title."

MY RESPONSE:

"Unhappy Britain: Blame immigration?'

But that is pure baloney. Brand propaganda. I have challenged anyone anywhere to PROVE to me THAT ANY politician OF ANY POLITICAL PARTY has ever claimed that immigration is solely to blame for ALL the UK's ills.

Brand claiming that 'someone' is saying 'something' solely to 'JUSTIFY' his false 'CRUSADE' does not mean that his claim is true, because it isn't.

IT IS A LIE..... IT IS A FALSE LIE."

NO YOU DID NOT.

If I did not have an interest in this thread I would hardly go to the trouble of repeatedly viewing and listening to this drivel in order to TRY to understand what Brand and his followers obviously do NOT understand - namely, just WHAT THE **** HE IS BABBLING ON ABOUT.

[Kizzy]

'When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

I think our conversation is done, if that's your opinion fine I'm done discussing my views with you.

[kirklancaster]

'When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

I think our conversation is done, if that's your opinion fine I'm done discussing my views with you.

Nice cop out of an excuse because you CANNOT answer my post - yet again. Anyway, Bye. :wavey:

[the truth]

'When it comes to our Society and Democracy, Brand has the same ethos as the evil lunatic terrorists who destroyed the irreplaceable ancient artefacts at Mosul and decimated the ancient Assyrian archaeological site of Nimrud in Iraq - "tear it down because it does not fit in with our ideologies"

I think our conversation is done, if that's your opinion fine I'm done discussing my views with you.

ok bye bye....the loonies of the new labour parties sick perversion of socialism has lead us where? bankruptcy? million plus innocents murdered? enslavement to an unelected unaccounted European masterplan which ironally enslaves us to corporations and does those deals behind closed doors, to a union which starves the Africans by banning them from free trade, the illegal wars and the cartel means tens of thousands of survivors in the middle east have no other choice but to drown at sea....bankrupt nations across Europe mass unemployment for decades....destruction of civil liberties....erosion of our language, destruction of free speech, enormous red tape and endless more layers of burocracy making policing impossible making running te nhs impossible the social services ineffective as tens of thousands of kids are raped and abused in one English city but were not even allowed to talk about it because of new labours censorship the council were too scared to be labelled racists...so they shut up as kids were raped etc etc etc oh and they rewarded encouraged and created a non working underclass of tens of millions who milked so many benefits off the barking mad liberals as to be earning more take home disposable income that a person on £50,000? oh and they had 168 hours a week of leisure time too? plenty of time to breed more for benefits smoke drink and take drugs....oh and push drugs too in brands new drugs liberal hell....the drug related crime in the uk is 10,000 times higher than in the USA? THATS RIGHT 10,000?

brand of course is obsessed with this as hes an egomaniac who wants to have his narcissistic self obsession and drug taking past justified and deified ....he sees himself as a demi god yet he cant even string one constructive idea...talk about a dangerous deluded false prophet

strangely your mate brand ignores this, hes mostly concerned with legalising all drugs? my what a mental list of priorities this ego maniac has?

[Samuel.]

Man, Brand really pisses people off

I find his videos entertaining. His views are a little too far left for my liking, but I find his perspective interesting enough.

It's light political entertainment and really should be left as that.

[Kizzy]

ok bye bye....the loonies of the new labour parties sick perversion of socialism has lead us where? bankruptcy? million plus innocents murdered? enslavement to an unelected unaccounted European masterplan which ironally enslaves us to corporations and does those deals behind closed doors, to a union which starves the Africans by banning them from free trade, the illegal wars and the cartel means tens of thousands of survivors in the middle east have no other choice but to drown at sea....bankrupt nations across Europe mass unemployment for decades....destruction of civil liberties....erosion of our language, destruction of free speech, enormous red tape and endless more layers of burocracy making policing impossible making running te nhs impossible the social services ineffective as tens of thousands of kids are raped and abused in one English city but were not even allowed to talk about it because of new labours censorship the council were too scared to be labelled racists...so they shut up as kids were raped etc etc etc oh and they rewarded encouraged and created a non working underclass of tens of millions who milked so many benefits off the barking mad liberals as to be earning more take home disposable income that a person on £50,000? oh and they had 168 hours a week of leisure time too? plenty of time to breed more for benefits smoke drink and take drugs....oh and push drugs too in brands new drugs liberal hell....the drug related crime in the uk is 10,000 times higher than in the USA? THATS RIGHT 10,000?

brand of course is obsessed with this as hes an egomaniac who wants to have his narcissistic self obsession and drug taking past justified and deified ....he sees himself as a demi god yet he cant even string one constructive idea...talk about a dangerous deluded false prophet

strangely your mate brand ignores this, hes mostly concerned with legalising all drugs? my what a mental list of priorities this ego maniac has?

Bye bye?... you haven't railroaded me off my own thread :laugh:
I'm choosing not to respond to kirk on those points is all. If you have an issue with how politics of the past/present is I'm not sure how ranting at Russell Brand and his you tube vlogs are going to address these issues as he has no political affiliation...
He may get bored tomorrow and decide to do something else who knows, then everyone can relax.

[the truth]

Bye bye?... you haven't railroaded me off my own thread :laugh:
I'm choosing not to respond to kirk on those points is all. If you have an issue with how politics of the past/present is I'm not sure how ranting at Russell Brand and his you tube vlogs are going to address these issues as he has no political affiliation...
He may get bored tomorrow and decide to do something else who knows, then everyone can relax.

he voted for your war mongering party something youre pretending to forget

[Kizzy]

he voted for your war mongering party something youre pretending to forget

I have no idea if Mr Brand voted or who he voted for.

[Toy Soldier]

---NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH---

TiBB's Ukipper brigade doesn't like Russell Brand. One forum member, Mr Soldier, a man of epic sexual prowess, was quoted as saying "I can't believe this has happened. I never imagined that I would witness something like this. But there I was, minding my own business, reading threads like any other day, when it happened: the least surprising event in the history of the universe. Something so intrinsically obvious that it may actually transcend the realms of mere opinion by such magnitude that it is woven into the very fabric of creation. And yet, there it was, in all it's glory; several pages of needlessly long posts pointing out that very fact. That very law of nature. That simple philosophical certainty."

Tune in tomorrow when we will find out the answer to a question equally perplexing: "Do Ukippers think that unfettered immigration is good, or bad?"

WILL WE EVER KNOW??

I personally can't wait to find out.

[kirklancaster]

---NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH---

TiBB's Ukipper brigade doesn't like Russell Brand. One forum member, Mr Soldier, a man of epic sexual prowess, was quoted as saying "I can't believe this has happened. I never imagined that I would witness something like this. But there I was, minding my own business, reading threads like any other day, when it happened: the least surprising event in the history of the universe. Something so intrinsically obvious that it may actually transcend the realms of mere opinion by such magnitude that it is woven into the very fabric of creation. And yet, there it was, in all it's glory; several pages of needlessly long posts pointing out that very fact. That very law of nature. That simple philosophical certainty."

Tune in tomorrow when we will find out the answer to a question equally perplexing: "Do Ukippers think that unfettered immigration is good, or bad?"

WILL WE EVER KNOW??

I personally can't wait to find out.

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Oh - Now I get it:

Jabberwocky - by LEWIS CARROLL

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!”

He took his vorpal sword in hand;
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
He chortled in his joy.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


Your post is perfectly clear now T.S.

[Toy Soldier]

---IMPORTANT UPDATE---

Kirklancaster doesn't understand hyperbole.

What other already-obvious-without-any-comment-at-all revelations will there be today? Only time will tell, but one thing is for sure, it's bound to be exceptionally boring.

Stay chooned.

[Kizzy]

---IMPORTANT UPDATE---

Kirklancaster doesn't understand hyperbole.

What other already-obvious-without-any-comment-at-all revelations will there be today? Only time will tell, but one thing is for sure, it's bound to be exceptionally boring.

Stay chooned.

If Brand fancies a day off you could stand in TS :laugh:

[Kizzy]

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[the truth]

poor old deluded brand he thinks the answer is everyone on drugs and more superstate control and waste....sad

[Kizzy]

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[Pete.]

I loved Russell in the Big Mouth days. Now he takes himself too seriously, he's lost his sense of humour