Nick Clegg will not share power with Labour if they are with SNP [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

arista

25-04-2015, 05:54 PM

And he keeps saying Alex Salmond
he must know a Lady is in charge.

Now Nick
do not get in a hissy fit over this
for fecks sake
we do not know if you have many MP's
after the Election.

Stop laying down the laws
you are so lucky to have had 5 years
with my Dave

Ref: Ch4HDNews and SkyNewsHD

JoshBB

25-04-2015, 05:55 PM

Why do they think anyone will even want them

arista

25-04-2015, 05:56 PM

Why do they think anyone will even want them

Maybe due to the amount of councils they run.

JoshBB

25-04-2015, 05:59 PM

Maybe due to the amount of councils they run.

How many is that? You were referring to the libdems, right?

bots

25-04-2015, 06:00 PM

Nicola is not standing for election to the UK parliament, Alex is.

Jay.

25-04-2015, 06:03 PM

they literally all sound like their fighting over each other's friendships in the playground, grow up and maybe think about the bigger picture.

arista

25-04-2015, 06:22 PM

How many is that? You were referring to the libdems, right?

Yes LibDem Councils
alot

joeysteele

25-04-2015, 09:08 PM

I would trust the SNP over the Lib Dems anyday under Cleggs leadership,even under any of the other Lib Dem leading figures leading them after Clegg too.
The likes of David Laws and Norman Lamb for instance.

I won't even mention Danny Alexander because he is possibly going to even just come 3rd in his seat in in Inverness come May 7th.

Anyway who would really believe Clegg after 2010,he will do a deal with anyone if it got him another 5 years of shared power and a few Ministerial positions for some of his MPs.
Policies will again be irrelevant as to that.

Kizzy

25-04-2015, 09:30 PM

Is cleggs last duty as camerons brown noser to deride anyone against his beloved tories who have made him so very rich?

Shaun

25-04-2015, 09:32 PM

Well I'm sure Miliband will miss his ten seats...

joeysteele

25-04-2015, 09:36 PM

Well I'm sure Miliband will miss his ten seats...

That many :joker:.

Vicky.

25-04-2015, 10:12 PM

Well I'm sure Miliband will miss his ten seats...

:D

Denver

25-04-2015, 10:17 PM

Didnt someone from labour say they will not agree to a coalition? I think UKIP or Lib Dems are Labours only choice but i think UKIP may be picked because they have better plans

joeysteele

25-04-2015, 10:28 PM

Didnt someone from labour say they will not agree to a coalition? I think UKIP or Lib Dems are Labours only choice but i think UKIP may be picked because they have better plans

Labour would never ever agree to an EU referendum except in the scenario they have laid out for one themselves.

Ed Miliband could have made life a fair bit easier for himself had he promised one too but he feels it would shatter investment, and have a shadow hanging over businesses too,he has stuck rigidly to that so no way would he agree to one now for UKIP support.

If he is the largest party he will, I think, go ahead as a minority govt; and dare the SNP to vote him down,which would then open the door to the Conservatives to try to form a govt:

Were the SNP to do that,it would infuriate the SNP supporters in Scotland so I think the SNP block in Westminster would in all probability support that minority Labour govt: in the end, and get really nothing in return,except no return of a Conservative govt:

Vicky.

25-04-2015, 10:39 PM

Didnt someone from labour say they will not agree to a coalition? I think UKIP or Lib Dems are Labours only choice but i think UKIP may be picked because they have better plans

LOL. UKIP would never align with labour and vice versa. They are complete polar opposites. The ONE thing farage cares about (or cares most about :suspect: ) is getting out of europe and controlling immigration..

kirklancaster

25-04-2015, 11:06 PM

LOL. UKIP would never align with labour and vice versa. They are complete polar opposites. The ONE thing farage cares about (or cares most about :suspect: ) is getting out of europe and controlling immigration..

Which is just WHY - in the face of all the evidence for controlling immigration and getting out of Europ - Farage is the only logical choice for MY vote.

joeysteele

26-04-2015, 09:37 AM

LOL. UKIP would never align with labour and vice versa. They are complete polar opposites. The ONE thing farage cares about (or cares most about :suspect: ) is getting out of europe and controlling immigration..

True, it is why I could never vote UKIP, I cannot see an even fair future for the UK outside the EU and within the UK too, massive divisions from Wales and Scotland could be further generated were we to vote to leave the EU.
Which would in turn cause more chaos and likely instability within the UK,that is even before addressing the problems of how,with who and where we trade.

I believe the loss of investments to the UK would be massive and also have companies of foreign origin in the UK leaving the UK too.

This is Milibands vision of leaving the EU,and for me he is right,that really would be like a massive lurch over a cliff,with in my view, no soft landing possible at all.

Farage was convinced as early as last year that Miliband would also go down the referendun route byt he election,he hasn't,he hasn't budged an inch.
So UKIP and labour together would be a non starter in any scenario I think too.

Crimson Dynamo

26-04-2015, 10:00 AM

perched for Blukip

Vicky.

26-04-2015, 11:52 AM

UKIP + Tories is a likely pairing tbh. Weird how Cameron suddenly changed his mind about a referendum...

For the record I do want a referendum as I believe we should get a say...but Im not willing to damn the poor and disabled to another 4 years of tory 'cuts' to get one.

Northern Monkey

26-04-2015, 03:56 PM

Would'nt trust Clegg or Salmond or Sturgeon.I would take Labour over the Tories but not with the SNP in toe.They only have Scotlands interests in mind.

Pete.

26-04-2015, 03:57 PM

Beggars can't be choosers

joeysteele

26-04-2015, 04:04 PM

Beggars can't be choosers

That is right.

When everyone has voted and the election done,it may well be that there is limited choice as to what govt; there is.

The polls are saying things are close, they are predicting Labour and the Conservatives to have something like 280 seats each,with the SNP for instance possibly on 50.

Therein lies a massive problem as then no combination of parties that doesn't include the SNP figures, can form a govt; anyway.

The Labour party is not in existence to help Conservatives into govt; and likewise the Conservatives don't exist to assist Labour into govt;
In that scenario above, painted by the polls at present,without the votes or some kind of support from the SNP, there couldn't be a govt; put in place at all.

bots

26-04-2015, 04:48 PM

That is right.

When everyone has voted and the election done,it may well be that there is limited choice as to what govt; there is.

The polls are saying things are close, they are predicting Labour and the Conservatives to have something like 280 seats each,with the SNP for instance possibly on 50.

Therein lies a massive problem as then no combination of parties that doesn't include the SNP figures, can form a govt; anyway.

The Labour party is not in existence to help Conservatives into govt; and likewise the Conservatives don't exist to assist Labour into govt;
In that scenario above, painted by the polls at present,without the votes or some kind of support from the SNP, there couldn't be a govt; put in place at all.

One scenario that hasn't been discussed yet is that no party can get enough support to push through a queens speech. It may be straight to another election vote .....can you imagine another 2 months of debate here? :joker:

user104658

26-04-2015, 08:15 PM

perched for Blukip
UKIP is currently odds on to have 3 or fewer seats. Sad times.

joeysteele

26-04-2015, 08:39 PM

One scenario that hasn't been discussed yet is that no party can get enough support to push through a queens speech. It may be straight to another election vote .....can you imagine another 2 months of debate here? :joker:

It doesn't bear thinking about :joker:, however as you say, that could be the case.
The SNP will never support a Conservative Queens speech, they could get difficult with Labour too and refuse to back theirs,especially if Ed Miliband digs his heels in.
Nicola Sturgeon is expecting him to 'want' to work with the SNP but he doesn't change his mind much really.

As you say,in that scenario too, the only thing to do would be to have to hold another general election.
Tempers on here would likely be strained well beyond the limit.:joker:

Northern Monkey

26-04-2015, 08:48 PM

I will vote UKIP even though it is a 100% wasted vote just because i have to go with my heart.My area is guaranteed labour and i've always been labour but this time i just can't identify with them now.It may sound strange as people associate UKIP with the right and closer to the tories than anyone else,but i could not and would not and never have ever voted Conservative.
Circumstances of the state of things now have put my political views in disarray.I have no allegiance to any party but just have to go with what i believe.
I have no illusions of UKIP taking any power but you just gotta go with your head and your heart.

joeysteele

26-04-2015, 09:35 PM

MTVN

26-04-2015, 10:43 PM

Cleggy :lovedup: the shrewdest and most capable leader the Lib Dems have ever had

joeysteele

26-04-2015, 11:39 PM

Cleggy :lovedup: the shrewdest and most capable leader the Lib Dems have ever had

I myself haven't an ounce of respect for Clegg now as I have indicated loads on here now.
I really think he is now leading the Lib Dems into a political abyss.

I find and am pleased to see and hear too, that people are simply now just not even listening to him.
All I hear is that he is trying to distance himself from the rotten things done this last 5 years but that people know he has made it all possible to be done.

I can think it sad that the few better things that have been done,he and the Lib Dems are not getting any credit for at all.
He has however,really allowed the Conservative party to throw Lib Dems out in the firing line while they sit back and take as much for credit as is possible to.

With his anti SNP rhetoric too, he is doing his MPs in Scotland, and there are 11 of them, no favours at all either.
He could be left with only Charles Kennedy left as a Lib Dem MP in Scotland on May 7th.

I think he has made very bad judgements and of course I am still personally furious with him,along with really loads of others.
I'm just really glad to get my vote I gave him in 2010 back at last,after being made to wait 5 years, to firmly cast it for someone else now.

Northern Monkey

26-04-2015, 11:43 PM

I think this is a really admirable post,also no vote used properly is ever a wasted vote as long as you yourself are content with who and what you voted for.
Well said EyeballPaul.

Thank you sir.:D

Denver

26-04-2015, 11:47 PM

I missed the deadline so cant vote :( although i would have voted TUSC

Nedusa

27-04-2015, 06:35 AM

Which is just WHY - in the face of all the evidence for controlling immigration and getting out of Europ - Farage is the only logical choice for MY vote.

And mine......

user104658

27-04-2015, 08:21 AM

OMFG Kirk and Nedusa are voting UKIP?? Wtf? Did anyone else know about this?

Kizzy

27-04-2015, 08:30 AM

Did everyone get the memo about who Joey and I are voting for?....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/24/article-2430497-183A326700000578-9_296x445.jpg

bots

27-04-2015, 10:47 AM

OMFG Kirk and Nedusa are voting UKIP?? Wtf? Did anyone else know about this?

This was brand new information!!:omg::omg::omg:

Northern Monkey

27-04-2015, 12:08 PM

Did everyone get the memo about who Joey and I are voting for?....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/24/article-2430497-183A326700000578-9_296x445.jpg
Oh.I thought you were voting for.....
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a640/eyeball96/Mobile%20Uploads/DA8124C1-F71D-4F36-85D2-1D838917015D_zpsshikchcq.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/eyeball96/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DA8124C1-F71D-4F36-85D2-1D838917015D_zpsshikchcq.jpg.html)

kirklancaster

27-04-2015, 12:50 PM

Oh.I thought you were voting for.....
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a640/eyeball96/Mobile%20Uploads/DA8124C1-F71D-4F36-85D2-1D838917015D_zpsshikchcq.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/eyeball96/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DA8124C1-F71D-4F36-85D2-1D838917015D_zpsshikchcq.jpg.html)

:joker::joker::joker: