Poppy Smart, 23, accused builders of sexual harassment for wolf-whistling

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/27/16/2810D65700000578-3057347-Poppy_Smart_complained_to_police_after_accusing_bu ilders_of_sexu-m-4_1430149158397.jpg



Poppy Smart, 23, accused builders of sexual harassment for wolf-whistling
Compared it to racial discrimination and asked other women to speak out
Building firm claims CCTV footage proves it was not one of their workers
Police investigated Ms Smart's complaint but took no further action




When Poppy Smart was wolf-whistled at by builders on her walk to work, she at first tried to ignore it.
But as the whistles and accompanying sexist comments turned into a daily ritual, the 23-year-old began to get upset.
Finally, after a month of unwanted attention from the men on the building site, the marketing co-ordinator decided she'd had enough – and called the police.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057347/Police-probe-construction-firm-23-year-old-woman-accused-builders-sexual-harassment-WOLF-WHISTLING.html#ixzz3YalqPCgg
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overreaction?

[Niamh.]

Well the title is misleading, "Poppy Smart, 23, accused builders of sexual harassment for wolf-whistling" if it were just that then I would agree it's an over reaction but blocking her way while making inappropriate comments everyday sounds like harassment to me

[MTVN]

Boys will be boys

[Crimson Dynamo]

It seems from her selfies that she is fully aware that her tits are a means of getting attention but she has not yet worked out that she cant really pick and chose who gives her the attention?

[Niamh.]

It seems from her selfies that she is fully aware that her tits are a means of getting attention but she has not yet worked out that she cant really pick and chose who gives her the attention?

again though standing in her way and blocking her is crossing the line, that's intimidating

[Crimson Dynamo]

again though standing in her way and blocking her is crossing the line, that's intimidating

well they were probably there and just did not move, my advice would be cross the street

[Niamh.]

well they were probably there and just did not move, my advice would be cross the street

:umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:umm2:

women need to be smart

[Niamh.]

women need to be smart

are you ****ing kidding me? Men should be allowed to block a womans path as she's trying to go about her daily business because it's up to the woman to cross the street and get out of his path? Next you'll be telling me a woman deserves to be raped if she wearing a short skirt :/

[Northern Monkey]

Nowt wrong with abit of wolf whistling and playful banter.Blocking her way is abit too much though if she was scared.

[Crimson Dynamo]

are you ****ing kidding me? Men should be allowed to block a womans path as she's trying to go about her daily business because it's up to the woman to cross the street and get out of his path? Next you'll be telling me a woman deserves to be raped if she wearing a short skirt :/

so she says they did not move but last time I checked its not a law to make way when a busty girl walks towards you

[Crimson Dynamo]

neem first in with the rape comparison


http://www.elephantjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gold-star-1.jpg

[Niamh.]

so she says they did not move but last time I checked its not a law to make way when a busty girl walks towards you

No she says he walked towards her and blocked her way, not that he was already standing there and should move for her.

[Niamh.]

neem first in with the rape comparison


http://www.elephantjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gold-star-1.jpg

I think it was a well placed comparison, you've basically said women with big tits should expect harassment and they should just get out of mens ways if they don't want it

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think it was a well placed comparison, you've basically said women with big tits should expect harassment and they should just get out of mens ways if they don't want it

no, standing on a pavement is not harassment its just standing

they probably did not even see her :shrug:

[Niamh.]

no, standing on a pavement is not harassment its just standing

they probably did not even see her :shrug:

eh?

[Crimson Dynamo]

eh?

"She said that on one occasion, one of the builders stepped out into her path and said “'morning love” before laughing. "


Jail him :omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Women enjoy being wolf-whistled at. Shocking as it is, simple creatures that we are, we appreciate the compliment. Like the cab driver calling you "love", or your boss complimenting you on your dress, it makes your day just a little bit nicer.

What it doesn't do is send you running, tearful, to the head of Human Resources, or prompt you to lock yourself in the ladies' loo, feeling bruised or degraded


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3636135/Why-women-like-being-wolf-whistled-at.html

[Niamh.]

"She said that on one occasion, one of the builders stepped out into her path and said “'morning love” before laughing. "


Jail him :omgno:

wow, your views on this are pretty shocking I have to say LT. I think I'll bow out now, as I don't think we'll ever see this from the same place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

wow, your views on this are pretty shocking I have to say LT. I think I'll bow out now, as I don't think we'll ever see this from the same place.

Its just a storm in a d-cup

[arista]

"sounds like harassment to me "


Yes Niamh
could be

[Ninastar]

Women who say that 'wolf whistling is sexual harassment' need to get a grip... If there's more to the story though, then I can see why this woman is so upset.

[Raph]

Boys will be boys

[Kizzy]

I don't even have to read the article ' Nubile Poppy Smart '23' is a voluptuous woman, her form fitting clothes accentuating her firm young body....

[Niamh.]

"She said that on one occasion, one of the builders stepped out into her path and said “'morning love” before laughing. "


Jail him :omgno:

full quote was actually :

She told Newsbeat: "Every day I'd walk past and they'd wolf whistle. They'd even come out of the building site to wolf whistle as I'd continue down the road.

"One of the guys got up in my face and all he said was 'morning love', but it was in a very aggressive way and the other one sneered.
"They blocked the pavement and I had to walk around them."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32493749/woman-goes-to-police-over-wolf-whistles?ocid=socialflow_facebook

[Crimson Dynamo]

full quote was actually :

She told Newsbeat: "Every day I'd walk past and they'd wolf whistle. They'd even come out of the building site to wolf whistle as I'd continue down the road.

"One of the guys got up in my face and all he said was 'morning love', but it was in a very aggressive way and the other one sneered.
"They blocked the pavement and I had to walk around them."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32493749/woman-goes-to-police-over-wolf-whistles?ocid=socialflow_facebook

why would he say "morning love" in an aggressive way? and "sneered?"

So she says but I would wager the chaps involved would suggest otherwise


But to waste police time with this is just the limit.

[Niamh.]

why would he say "morning love" in an aggressive way? and "sneered?"

So she says but I would wager the chaps involved would suggest otherwise


But to waste police time with this is just the limit.

Why would she waste her time reporting these guys if she didn't feel harassed? :think: and of course the "chaps involved would suggest otherwise" lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why would she waste her time reporting these guys if she didn't feel harassed? :think: and of course the "chaps involved would suggest otherwise" lol

she sounds like a piece of work to me.

[Josy]

Cant believe the bollocks I've read in this thread tbh.

The girl had every right to complain, as does anyone that is made to feel anxious/uneasy/intimidated whilst going about her own business.

Wolf whistling once or twice isn't too bad I guess but doing it to the same girl routinely then escalating it by blocking her path and so on isn't alright and anyone thinking otherwise is part of the bigger problems that women face every day.

I'm genuinely wondering how many fathers/grandfathers/brothers would think this was 'over reacting' if it was their own female relative that was being objectified and hounded with unwanted attention by a group of immature men

[Livia]

I'm with Josy on this one.

[Niamh.]

Cant believe the bollocks I've read in this thread tbh.

The girl had every right to complain, as does anyone that is made to feel anxious/uneasy/intimidated whilst going about her own business.

Wolf whistling once or twice isn't too bad I guess but doing it to the same girl routinely then escalating it by blocking her path and so on isn't alright and anyone thinking otherwise is part of the bigger problems that women face every day.

I'm genuinely wondering how many fathers/grandfathers/brothers would think this was 'over reacting' if it was their own female relative that was being objectified and hounded with unwanted attention by a group of immature men

:clap1:

[MTVN]

If they hadn't got rid of page 3 then these builders wouldn't have had to find real women to leer over

[Scarlett.]

Cant believe the bollocks I've read in this thread tbh.

The girl had every right to complain, as does anyone that is made to feel anxious/uneasy/intimidated whilst going about her own business.

Wolf whistling once or twice isn't too bad I guess but doing it to the same girl routinely then escalating it by blocking her path and so on isn't alright and anyone thinking otherwise is part of the bigger problems that women face every day.

I'm genuinely wondering how many fathers/grandfathers/brothers would think this was 'over reacting' if it was their own female relative that was being objectified and hounded with unwanted attention by a group of immature men

I agree, it wasnt just a one off thing, she had to put up with it every day.

[Northern Monkey]

If they hadn't got rid of page 3 then these builders wouldn't have had to find real women to leer over

That is true.I was shocked when i picked up the Sun on a train the other day to find no page 3.I don't usually read it so i did'nt even know it had gone.Blokes need something to brighten up their day a little while they're out hard at a manual job.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If they hadn't got rid of page 3 then these builders wouldn't have had to find real women to leer over

:clap1:

demonising hard working men in this thread and taking away the norks in the bun

No wonder britain is broken

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp1wqabaey1qgjplzo1_r1_500.jpg

[Daniel.]

I agree with Niamh, Josy and Livia

#girlpower

[Josy]

That is true.I was shocked when i picked up the Sun on a train the other day to find no page 3.I don't usually read it so i did'nt even know it had gone.Blokes need something to brighten up their day a little while they're out hard at a manual job.

Yet those same blokes would have a heart attack if they opened up the paper to page 3 and saw a big ol knob placed there to brighten up the day for all the women and gay men that are out working hard at a manual job eh

[Marsh.]

Yet those same blokes would have a heart attack if they opened up the paper to page 3 and saw a big ol knob placed there to brighten up the day for all the women and gay men that are out working hard at a manual job eh

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yet those same blokes would have a heart attack if they opened up the paper to page 3 and saw a big ol knob placed there to brighten up the day for all the women and gay men that are out working hard at a manual job eh

You lot got the 50 shades book so stop moaning :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wolf-whistle backlash: Police and woman under fire after complaint about builders

West Mercia chiefs were accused of getting their priorities wrong after sending officers to probe Poppy Smart’s claims of sexual harassment.

The 23-year-old marketing assistant complained after hearing the “disrespectful” calls as she passed the site in Worcester on her way to work.

But Philip Davies, who is seeking re-election as Tory MP for Shipley, West Yorkshire, said: “I would have thought the police have better things to do.

“I don’t know how many burglaries there are to investigate in Worcester, but there are probably quite a few.

“I’m sure the public would feel safer if police devoted more time to investigating them.”

His views were echoed by Worcester residents who used social media to rant about the “waste of money”. :clap1:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/573312/Police-blasted-investigating-builders-wolf-whistled-woman

[billy123]

Yet those same blokes would have a heart attack if they opened up the paper to page 3 and saw a big ol knob placed there to brighten up the day for all the women and gay men that are out working hard at a manual job ehThe guardian already puts them on the front page.
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BziVjEhIIAAgS6R.jpg

I agree though it shows a real lack of empathy to not even realise how intimidated she might have felt and nobody should be scared to walk down the road. I dont know why you are suprised by some comments on here though.

[Niamh.]

Yet those same blokes would have a heart attack if they opened up the paper to page 3 and saw a big ol knob placed there to brighten up the day for all the women and gay men that are out working hard at a manual job eh

:laugh2:

[Northern Monkey]

Yet those same blokes would have a heart attack if they opened up the paper to page 3 and saw a big ol knob placed there to brighten up the day for all the women and gay men that are out working hard at a manual job eh

You don't see the lady bits on page 3 so i don't think a big 'ol 'knob' would be allowed to be honest,Or a big 'ol minge.I did once see a flap poking out when they forgot to airbrush it out though.I would'nt get offended if there was a topless bloke on page 4 tbh,Infact i bet there's already plenty in that showbiz section for women.
Maybe leave 'big 'ol knobs' in the lady porn mags eh.

[Niamh.]

You don't see the lady bits on page 3 so i don't think a big 'ol 'knob' would be allowed to be honest,Or a big 'ol minge.I did'nt once see a flap poking out when they forget to airbrush it out though.I would'nt get offended if there was a topless bloke on page 4 tbh,Infact i bet there's already plenty in that showbiz section for women.
Maybe leave 'big 'ol knobs' in the lady porn mags eh.

topless men and topless women are not comparable though, if they were you wouldn't have people being up in arms over breast feeding mothers daring to get them out in public to feed their babies :laugh:

[Marsh.]

You don't see the lady bits on page 3 so i don't think a big 'ol 'knob' would be allowed to be honest,Or a big 'ol minge.I did once see a flap poking out when they forgot to airbrush it out though.I would'nt get offended if there was a topless bloke on page 4 tbh,Infact i bet there's already plenty in that showbiz section for women.
Maybe leave 'big 'ol knobs' in the lady porn mags eh.

Get a girlfriend.

They last longer than a newspaper that gets soggy. :thumbs:

[Northern Monkey]

topless men and topless women are not the comparable though, if they were you wouldn't have people being up in arms over breast feeding mothers daring to get them out in public to feed their babies :laugh:

Maybe just show the balls then:laugh:

[Niamh.]

Maybe just show the balls then:laugh:

omg the vision I just had :laugh2:

[Northern Monkey]

Get a girlfriend.

They last longer than a newspaper that gets soggy. :thumbs:

Got one,They get soggy too after a while.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Got one,They get soggy too after a while.

:joker:

[Scarlett.]

I agree though it shows a real lack of empathy to not even realise how intimidated she might have felt and nobody should be scared to walk down the road. I dont know why you are suprised by some comments on here though.

Lol, so true, I have to say, every time I go into a serious debates thread, I just find myself wondering where the hell some people's sense of empathy is. It's like people find it impossible to see things from a different perspective.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lol, so true, I have to say, every time I go into a serious debates thread, I just find myself wondering where the hell some people's sense of empathy is. It's like people find it impossible to see things from a different perspective.

yes its amazing to think people are not all the same and may not share your views...






:umm2:

[Niamh.]

yes its amazing to think people are not all the same and may not share your views...






:umm2:

That's absolutely not what Chewy said

[Scarlett.]

yes its amazing to think people are not all the same and may not share your views...






:umm2:

That's not what I'm saying, I understand other peoples perspectives on certain things, but I don't agree. Where as on here, it seems certain people just refuse to look at things from a different perspective. I used to be the same, but debating on here (back when every post wasnt "LOL immagrunts") changed my views, and let me admit that I had stupid opinions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not what I'm saying, I understand other peoples perspectives on certain things, but I don't agree. Where as on here, it seems certain people just refuse to look at things from a different perspective. I used to be the same, but debating on here (back when every post wasnt "LOL immagrunts") changed my views, and let me admit that I had stupid opinions.

yes and it certainly works on every side

[Toy Soldier]

why would he say "morning love" in an aggressive way? and "sneered?"

So she says but I would wager the chaps involved would suggest otherwise


But to waste police time with this is just the limit.
Because a lot of "hard working chaps" get off on making people (both women AND other men) feel uncomfortable and intimidated, is the sad truth that I'm sure you don't want to hear.

Anyone who has read many of my posts knows that I am far from being "a feminist" but I see this more or less every day. Burly dirty faced red nosed big chavs trying to make themselves feel big by intimidating people. With women they add the pervy aspect but they'll do it to pretty much anyone. They don't get very far with it at my place of work, mind.

This isn't all manual labourers by the way but it's enough for it to be frequent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We do not know why the girl did not just walk another route or we do not know anything from the builders perspective

all we have is her slightly hysterical account

[Scarlett.]

We do not know why the girl did not just walk another route or we do not know anything from the builders perspective

all we have is her slightly hysterical account

Why should she have to walk another route?

[Niamh.]

Why should she have to walk another route?

She's probably asking for it otherwise :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why should she have to walk another route?

she should not but we all do things to avoid problems. Why should women not be able to walk around city centres at night?

if it bothers her and she can go a different way then fecking do it ffs


I am sure people alter routes all the time to avoid chuggers?

[the truth]

I think it was a well placed comparison, you've basically said women with big tits should expect harassment and they should just get out of mens ways if they don't want it

it wasn't well placed at all, it was hysterical nonsense...you get wound up over this yet you don't event work up a sweat on massive issues like nhs abuses, male suicides...pathetic:nono:

[Niamh.]

it wasn't well placed at all, it was hysterical nonsense...you get wound up over this yet you don't event work up a sweat on massive issues like nhs abuses, male suicides...pathetic:nono:

Stay on topic please :nono:

[Northern Monkey]

She should be greatful she's getting some attention,just think of all those poor ugly and fat lasses who never get harrassed.....



(*Ducks for cover)
JK.:laugh:

[bots]

Pretty shocked by the comments in this thread. I'm with Niamh

[Iceman]

We do not know why the girl did not just walk another route or we do not know anything from the builders perspective

all we have is her slightly hysterical account

And why exactly have you decided it's a hysterical account?

[Crimson Dynamo]

And why exactly have you decided it's a hysterical account?

Poppy Smart, 23, claims her walk to work is also being ruined as she is subjected to "disrespectful" comments, that she likened to racial discrimination.


It is very disrespectful and is comparable to calling out at someone of a different race or religion."


'He was probably 18 or 19 and got right in my face, standing next to an older man. He didn't touch me but they were in my personal space in the pavement, in my way, even though I literally blanked him. It is incredibly intimidating. I'm quite a nervous person and this has made my anxiety worse.

'The whistling went on for a month. I eventually contacted the building company and the police on the same day when it got so bad. I even considered changing my route to work but thought, 'Why should I do that?':facepalm:

[the truth]

lets hope she loses this pathetic case and has to pay the court fees for such a trivial waste of time..the resources to tackle real sexual attacks is finite and is already over stretched..the rescources to tackle all crime are stretched to breaking point, so many serious criminals get away with theft and murder.its women like her who make it harder for the real victims

[Marsh.]

Oh here it is.

[the truth]

how many disabled people have to put up with endless ignorant comments every minute of every day? imagine every one of them rang the police and went to court each time? this petty drivel from this woman seems to be an issue with petty feminists, no wonder some people don't want to employ women when they waste police time over such nonsense...another option by the way IF it is that bad, FILM IT on your phone camera....

[Marsh.]

how many disabled people have to put up with endless ignorant comments every minute of every day? imagine every one of them rang the police and went to court each time? this petty drivel from this woman seems to be an issue with petty feminists, no wonder some people don't want to employ women when they waste police time over such nonsense...another option by the way IF it is that bad, FILM IT on your phone camera....

Yes, IF it is that bad it's her own fault for not filming the offenders. :umm2:

And I'm sure there are many disabled people and other types of people who take people to court over such harassment.

But, I suppose her being.... A WOMAN (:eek:) makes her case not worthy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh here it is.

:joker:

[the truth]

Yes, IF it is that bad it's her own fault for not filming the offenders. :umm2:

it could have proved some of her hysterical nonsense was true, clearly she had a month to do so and didn't so it proves its all exaggerated lies from an attention seeker....I notice you don't care less that its wasting police time and money who could have been out saving lives:nono:shameful

[Tom4784]

What a stupid girl she must be, she honestly expected grown men to control themselves and not intimidate her on a regular basis? Silly girl, if she doesn't want attention from men she should change her route regularly and dress like a nun. She shouldn't expect men to be able to show a modicum of control or respect towards her because she has tits and we all know that men aren't responsible for their own actions when it comes to a pair of boobs. It's her own fault for having them tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

or you just go a different way and use your brain

[Kyle]

You know it would have been nice to hear the_truthette's opinion on this but she just had to be silenced.:cloud:

It's always annoyed me as a lad though to hear other lads say something like 'oh she would get it' or 'I'd give her a right go' when girls are walking by. In my head I'm always thinking 'yeh like she'd let you ya fat self entitled ****'. Kind of reminds of this, it's like this sexual sense of entitlement some lads seem to get and I stress some cos a lot of lads aren't like that and it gives us a bad name especially those with trade backgrounds.

[Tom4784]

or you just go a different way and use your brain

Yeah, she should have to change the way she goes to work because these men are obviously a victim of her evil hyponotic tit magic. How can they be expected to actually focus on their jobs like professionals and not act like 12 year old boys in the presence of this succubus?

[Marsh.]

it could have proved some of her hysterical nonsense was true, clearly she had a month to do so and didn't so it proves its all exaggerated lies from an attention seeker....I notice you don't care less that its wasting police time and money who could have been out saving lives:nono:shameful

Yes, clearly that's what I said.

EVERYTHING has to be about life and death, no room for anything else in life. Much less anything for women, they should put up and shut up.

Clearly.

[GiRTh]

Yeah, she should have to change the way she goes to work because these men are obviously a victim of her evil hyponotic tit magic. How can they be expected to actually focus on their jobs like professionals and not act like 12 year old boys in the presence of this succubus?
:joker:

There are some truly disgusting comments in this thread but what do you expect from some members.

[the truth]

You know it would have been nice to hear the_truthette's opinion on this but she just had to be silenced.:cloud:

It's always annoyed me as a lad though to hear other lads say something like 'oh she would get it' or 'I'd give her a right go' when girls are walking by. In my head I'm always thinking 'yeh like she'd let you ya fat self entitled ****'. Kind of reminds of this, it's like this sexual sense of entitlement some lads seem to get and I stress some cos a lot of lads aren't like that and it gives us a bad name especially those with trade backgrounds.

feminist drivel....like women never say abusive insulting things to men..what a joke...lets see if she loses the court cases with false accusation if she has to pay the court fees, hope so

[the truth]

:joker:

There are some truly disgusting comments in this thread but what do you expect from some members.

I agree, the male hate is out of control

[Crimson Dynamo]

I agree, the male hate is out of control

correct truth

[Marsh.]

feminist drivel....like women never say abusive insulting things to men..what a joke...lets see if she loses the court cases with false accusation if she has to pay the court fees, hope so

Whether some women are abusive or insulting to some men has no bearing on this case.

If a woman was being assaulted by her partner, would you say "Well we're not doing anything about this because last week I saw a woman being abusive to a man".

You're so simplistic, narrow minded and fail to look at things outside of your own bubble.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah, she should have to change the way she goes to work because these men are obviously a victim of her evil hyponotic tit magic. How can they be expected to actually focus on their jobs like professionals and not act like 12 year old boys in the presence of this succubus?

you somehow want to change all of the poorly educated working class males now?

how will you do that

:rolleyes:


failing that just walk a different way

[Tom4784]

I agree, the male hate is out of control

Very true, how have we managed to survive for so long under such intense scrutinity and bigotry? Men have it so difficult, we're so unprivileged and unrepresented in this world. Woe is us.

Nobody knows what prejudice feels like more than the average man.

[Kyle]

feminist drivel....like women never say abusive insulting things to men..what a joke...lets see if she loses the court cases with false accusation if she has to pay the court fees, hope so

Why are you changing the subject?

If this was a group of women hounding a man and making sexually suggestive noises making him feel uncomfortable then I'd be with the man all the way. I don't know why you have to make it a battleground between the sexes.

This isn't a man v woman situation, it's right v chuffin wrong.

[Marsh.]

Poor white, middle class, straight men. :bawling:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor white, middle class, straight men. :bawling:

"demographics that dont do well on grindr number 32"

[Marsh.]

"demographics that dont do well on grindr number 32"

:joker:

[Tom4784]

Why are you changing the subject?

If this was a group of women hounding a man and making sexually suggestive noises making him feel uncomfortable then I'd be with the man all the way. I don't know why you have to make it a battleground between the sexes.

This isn't a man v woman situation, it's right v chuffin wrong.

Because the Truth is a meninist and like all meninists they can't handle the fact that the universe doesn't revolve around them. Women's rights? Pfft, WHAT ABOUT MEN'S RIGHTS? We get a higher rate of pay then women in the same role but who cares about that when men are all that matters? Women should be happy that they can vote and we let them out the house without a leash.

Gay rights? even mentioning those two words count as bigotry against the beleagured heteros of the world! It doesn't matter that the gays don't have equal rights, we can deal with that after we deal with all the slight problems straight white men have to suffer with first! Straight white men come first, everyone else is a second class citizen who doesn't matter.

[Iceman]

Poppy Smart, 23, claims her walk to work is also being ruined as she is subjected to "disrespectful" comments, that she likened to racial discrimination.


It is very disrespectful and is comparable to calling out at someone of a different race or religion."


'He was probably 18 or 19 and got right in my face, standing next to an older man. He didn't touch me but they were in my personal space in the pavement, in my way, even though I literally blanked him. It is incredibly intimidating. I'm quite a nervous person and this has made my anxiety worse.

'The whistling went on for a month. I eventually contacted the building company and the police on the same day when it got so bad. I even considered changing my route to work but thought, 'Why should I do that?':facepalm:

So a woman telling a view of being intimidated equates to hysterical to you? :/

[Nedusa]

These blokes sound a bit creepy and are guilty of harassment and intimidation albeit at a mild level. Still a woman has the right to walk down the street without having to endure this macho bull**** behaviour .

A firm word from the police should suffice, but if they continue then more fool them as they could be arrested and charged with a host of sexual harassment charges.

I think the problem is that the Sun isn't showing tits on page 3 anymore so these morons are hoping for a bit of page 3 action of their own.

[the truth]

Why are you changing the subject?

If this was a group of women hounding a man and making sexually suggestive noises making him feel uncomfortable then I'd be with the man all the way. I don't know why you have to make it a battleground between the sexes.

This isn't a man v woman situation, it's right v chuffin wrong.

women in groups do that all the time, men don't waste valuable often life saving police time with such petty drivel.

[Marsh.]

women in groups do that all the time, men don't waste valuable often life saving police time with such petty drivel.

:joker:

[the truth]

These blokes sound a bit creepy and are guilty of harassment and intimidation albeit at a mild level. Still a woman has the right to walk down the street without having to endure this macho bull**** behaviour .

A firm word from the police should suffice, but if they continue then more fool them as they could be arrested and charged with a host of sexual harassment charges.

I think the problem is that the Sun isn't showing tits on page 3 anymore so these morons are hoping for a bit of page 3 action of their own.

a man has the same rights, though men get far more lip off packs of women and don't waste police time with it...theyd get even more if they were half naked too

[the truth]

Because the Truth is a meninist and like all meninists they can't handle the fact that the universe doesn't revolve around them. Women's rights? Pfft, WHAT ABOUT MEN'S RIGHTS? We get a higher rate of pay then women in the same role but who cares about that when men are all that matters? Women should be happy that they can vote and we let them out the house without a leash.

Gay rights? even mentioning those two words count as bigotry against the beleagured heteros of the world! It doesn't matter that the gays don't have equal rights, we can deal with that after we deal with all the slight problems straight white men have to suffer with first! Straight white men come first, everyone else is a second class citizen who doesn't matter.

gay people do have equal rights so youre lying again.....when gay people threaten to murder Christians they break the law

[Marsh.]

a man has the same rights, though men get far more lip off packs of women and don't waste police time with it...theyd get even more if they were half naked too

And you know this how?

How wide an area did your personally sourced research cover?

[Scarlett.]

a man has the same rights, though men get far more lip off packs of women and don't waste police time with it...theyd get even more if they were half naked too

Are you sure you're not living in opposite world? :conf:

[Marsh.]

gay people do have equal rights so youre lying again.....

Some research is in order.

[Tom4784]

gay people do have equal rights so youre lying again.....when gay people threaten to murder Christians they break the law

They do? WOW I never knew!

We should go tell the gays to stop campaigning for equal rights immediately because an ignorant meninist says they already have it.

[Kyle]

I think it's worth noting that (and forgive me if I've missed anyone out anywhere earlier in the thread)

Chewy, Girth, Dezzy, Kyle, Marsh

That's at least 5 males who think this is bang out of order.

You are outnumbered even among your own gender truth. You are entitled to your view by all means but understand it is fast becoming a more marginalised view and rightly so in my opinion.

Edit: I forgot Iceman, my apologies.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think it's worth noting that (and forgive me if I've missed anyone out anywhere earlier in the thread)

Chewy, Girth, Dezzy, Kyle, Marsh

That's at least 5 males who think this is bang out of order.

You are outnumbered even among your own gender truth. You are entitled to your view by all means but understand it is fast becoming a more marginalised view and rightly so in my opinion.

Edit: I forgot Iceman, my apologies.

but kyle do you think she should have just gone another way or do you think going to the police was the correct course?

[empire]

Im sure the police have better things to do in there job, like throwing a couple of chavs in the back of their vans, females like her think that they are god's perfect gift to this world,I have seen her sort before, and they don't like being rejected either, by men that fit the ken type doll either, I mean the likes of her who pile a load of make up, and post photos of their image, ever day only tells me how deluded she is,

[Marsh.]

but kyle do you think she should have just gone another way or do you think going to the police was the correct course?

But when it's happening over and over again, why should she have to go another way? That makes no sense.

If she was kicking up a fuss over one incident, fair enough, but every day? That's harassment.

[Marsh.]

Im sure the police have better things to do in there job, like throwing a couple of chavs in the back of their vans, females like her think that they are god's perfect gift to this world,I have seen her sort before, and they don't like being rejected either, by men that fit the ken type doll either, I mean the likes of her who pile a load of make up, and post photos of their image, ever day only tells me how deluded she is,

I didn't know you knew this woman so personally?

[Kyle]

but kyle do you think she should have just gone another way or do you think going to the police was the correct course?

Nah I don't think she should feel like she has to alternate her route to avoid potentially oppressive situations. You can pretty much read what Niamh said verbatim for my opinion.

As for calling the cops, if tomorrow she doesn't get any hastle she might argue it was worth it. Personally an anonymous phone call complaint to the contractors head office first might have solved it (she did both at the same time) but she had this problem for a month. I imagine she would have been pretty angry.

[Livia]

Im sure the police have better things to do in there job, like throwing a couple of chavs in the back of their vans, females like her think that they are god's perfect gift to this world,I have seen her sort before, and they don't like being rejected either, by men that fit the ken type doll either, I mean the likes of her who pile a load of make up, and post photos of their image, ever day only tells me how deluded she is,

So if she wear make up and posts pictures of herself, she deserves everything she gets? That can't be what you're saying. Tell me that's not what you're saying...

[Crimson Dynamo]

She needs to be smarter. Hopefully she will learn

[Livia]

I do think calling the police was a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. She should have marched into the site office and asked them to muzzle their boys or she would personally unscrew each 5 watt bulb they're obviously using for brains.

[Marsh.]

or she would personally unscrew each 5 watt bulb they're obviously using for brains.

I know LT and the truth are being silly but this is a little uncalled for. :fan:

[Kyle]

I do think calling the police was a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. She should have marched into the site office and asked them to muzzle their boys or she would personally unscrew each 5 watt bulb they're obviously using for brains.

I'd pay good money to see you put a few men in their place :creep:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd pay good money to see you put a few men in their place :creep:

:fist: take that smut to the building site you sexist pig


https://www.policeoracle.com/news/files/906687a9cf4749aaf0ce7001ff1643b9.jpg

[Kyle]

:fist: take that smut to the building site you sexist pig


It's safer here where I can't take a size 5 stiletto to the balls.

[Amy Jade]

I am so shocked to see a few people suggest the victim should dress more conservativly, walk a totally different way or even enjoy being harrased.

Nobody should walk the street and dread reaching a certain point because they're being intimidated.

[Niamh.]

I am so shocked to see a few people suggest the victim should dress more conservativly, walk a totally different way or even enjoy being harrased.

Nobody should walk the street and dread reaching a certain point because they're being intimidated.


:clap2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am so shocked to see a few people suggest the victim should dress more conservativly, walk a totally different way or even enjoy being harrased.

Nobody should walk the street and dread reaching a certain point because they're being intimidated.

would you walk around your nearest city at 3 am?

[Crimson Dynamo]

people avoid areas of towns and cities for all sorts of reasons

we dont live in fecking utopia.

its called being street smart

[Cherie]

would you walk around your nearest city at 3 am?

That's a bit different though :laugh:

[Niamh.]

would you walk around your nearest city at 3 am?


Because you might meet someone who might mug you? And if you do get mugged you shouldn't report it even if you know who the mugger was because it was your own fault for daring to walk the streets at 3am? :think:

[Amy Jade]

would you walk around your nearest city at 3 am?

No, but this wasn't at 3am so what's your point?

Also say I did happen to walk down the street at 3am and get attacked or even worse, would you be blaming me and not the attacker?

[Crimson Dynamo]

we all do things to avoid mentals

its part of life.



be street smart

[Kizzy]

I would like to have seen the confrontation, someone saying good morning didn't sound that threatening, maybe he fancied her and was trying to break the ice?
If she walked that way everyday he may have just wanted to speak to her, it's being made out to be very sinister.
Even the vid in the article, it's just one whistle that sounds a long way off.
It's hard to get a specific context on this really.

[Toy Soldier]

we all do things to avoid mentals

its part of life.



be street smart

Do we? I don't. I don't go wandering the streets at 3am but when doped-up idiots decide to stand in the way blocking shop doorways etc. to be "funny" or "intimidating" or "impress their mates" I sure as **** don't run off with my tail between my legs, I walk straight through the ****ers. I wouldn't get to work some days if I didn't :/.

Who knows. Maybe one of them will pull a knife on me one day, and then there can be a thread on here about it where you tell everyone that I brought it on myself because I should have walked around and come in the fire exit at the back like a scared little bitch. Is that what you would do, LT? Is that the "clever" thing to do? I can think of a few words for it... none of them are "clever" :joker:.

[Amy Jade]

we all do things to avoid mentals

its part of life.



be street smart
Again, she didn't go out at night so your point is escaping me. Should she put herself out by walking another way which could take her twice as long just to avoid a few pigs?

[Marsh.]

we all do things to avoid mentals

its part of life.



be street smart

Or they could simply grow up and get on with their work and leave passers by be?

Just a thought. :fan:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again, she didn't go out at night so your point is escaping me. Should she put herself out by walking another way which could take her twice as long just to avoid a few pigs?

yes she should

do nt waste police time because you are not smart:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Or they could simply grow up and get on with their work and leave passers by be?

Just a thought. :fan:

yes marsh but are you asking this of all working class men in the uk?

get real

its real life not fantasy

[Amy Jade]

Or they could simply grow up and get on with their work and leave passers by be?

Just a thought. :fan:

:worship:

[Amy Jade]

yes marsh but are you asking this of all working class men in the uk?

get real

its real life not fantasy
My Uncle and two cousins are all builders and I've never heard of any of them harrasing passers by.

Would you be fine with your wife going to a supermarket and being harrased by a worker in the store? they're working class too.

[Marsh.]

yes marsh but are you asking this of all working class men in the uk?

get real

its real life not fantasy

Are all working class men immature pervs who harass the same woman everyday on her way to work?

get real

its real life not fantasy :fan:

[Crimson Dynamo]

My Uncle and two cousins are all builders and I've never heard of any of them harrasing passers by.

Would you be fine with your wife going to a supermarket and being harrased by a worker in the store? they're working class too.

whistling is not harassment


the police told her sory luv, not interested

what part of that are you missing?


its a no go

end of story

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are all working class men immature pervs who harass the same woman everyday on her way to work?

get real

its real life not fantasy :fan:

sorry

police say no

:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are all working class men immature pervs who harass the same woman everyday on her way to work?

get real

its real life not fantasy :fan:

and yes

[Toy Soldier]

LT you're turning into some sort of horrendous hybrid of The Truth and Arista in this thread. What's going on?

[Marsh.]

LT you're turning into some sort of horrendous hybrid of The Truth and Arista in this thread. What's going on?

Let LT live!!!!!

[GiRTh]

LT you're turning into some sort of horrendous hybrid of The Truth and Arista in this thread. What's going on?
:joker:

[Kizzy]

He's been possessed by a malevolent entity, I'll be glad when the elections over we can have him exorcised and farage cast out of him :hehe:

[Toy Soldier]

He's been possessed by a malevolent entity, I'll be glad when the elections over we can have him exorcised and farage cast out of him :hehe:

Oh my god... I've just realised something.

- LT has been possessed by the malevolent spirit of Farage.
- I'm sure I haven't seen Kirk around for a day or two.

- ...Kirk is the malevolent spirit of Farage???

[Ammi]

Im sure the police have better things to do in there job, like throwing a couple of chavs in the back of their vans, females like her think that they are god's perfect gift to this world,I have seen her sort before, and they don't like being rejected either, by men that fit the ken type doll either, I mean the likes of her who pile a load of make up, and post photos of their image, ever day only tells me how deluded she is,

..I'm wondering what 'her sort' is..someone who likes to feel pretty/feel good about herself and have confidence when she walks down the street, wouldn't everyone like that, male or female..but that's not 'her sort' expecting someone getting in her face or shouting comments from their car...if that was the case then she would have engaged in conversations and flirtations in the month that they were doing it, which she didn't...


...hmm, these things are always interesting though because if it's a perceived attractive female then it's often...well what does she expect, t'is men just being men as opposed to disrespectful idiots being disrespectful idiots and really she needs to look at herself/her confidence/and what she's wearing etc...and if it's a female that's not perceived as so physically attractive, it's often, well goddamn she should think herself lucky to get comments in her face....the females lose and the females lose/zero points to the females..but no, it's not a gender thing though, it's an idiot thing and a disrespect thing ...

[Toy Soldier]

The whole "they should take it as a compliment" thing is definitely not a gender thing, not these days anyway. I actually had to have words with a trainee staff member recently (which is unusual, I have a very laid back management style hactually :joker: ) for basically constantly perving at a young male customer's legs when he comes in in football shorts. Making loud comments and what can only be described as "purring" at the poor lad. He was laughing and smiling but to me, he also looked seriously uncomfortable... He's just a kid really, 19 I think, and he was getting obviously increasingly embarrassed.

Theres nothing wrong with flirting but people need to get much, much better at reading body language and stop when someone is clearly not happy about it.

[Cherie]

we all do things to avoid mentals

its part of life.



be street smart

Why should she have to walk a completely different route, even crossing the street wouldn't really help, she would still have to listen to them, I do think dialling 999 was an over reaction though

[kirklancaster]

LT you're turning into some sort of horrendous hybrid of The Truth and Arista in this thread. What's going on?

:joker::joker::joker:

[Ammi]

The whole "they should take it as a compliment" thing is definitely not a gender thing, not these days anyway. I actually had to have words with a trainee staff member recently (which is unusual, I have a very laid back management style hactually :joker: ) for basically constantly perving at a young male customer's legs when he comes in in football shorts. Making loud comments and what can only be described as "purring" at the poor lad. He was laughing and smiling but to me, he also looked seriously uncomfortable... He's just a kid really, 19 I think, and he was getting obviously increasingly embarrassed.

Theres nothing wrong with flirting but people need to get much, much better at reading body language and stop when someone is clearly not happy about it.

....hmmm, I bet you were having little sneaky peeks at those fine legs yourself, TS...but yes, people will notice and look at things they find attractive in people they see on the street/in their place of work etc but it's when it's advanced to making inappropriate comments/feeling it's ok to make those comments and making someone feel uncomfortable and awkward ....

[Niamh.]

The whole "they should take it as a compliment" thing is definitely not a gender thing, not these days anyway. I actually had to have words with a trainee staff member recently (which is unusual, I have a very laid back management style hactually :joker: ) for basically constantly perving at a young male customer's legs when he comes in in football shorts. Making loud comments and what can only be described as "purring" at the poor lad. He was laughing and smiling but to me, he also looked seriously uncomfortable... He's just a kid really, 19 I think, and he was getting obviously increasingly embarrassed.

Theres nothing wrong with flirting but people need to get much, much better at reading body language and stop when someone is clearly not happy about it.

Yep it can happen from both sides, we should try to keep gender out of it really because all men or all builders (as in this case) aren't all like that, I'd like to think most men have more respect and wouldn't intimidate someone like that

[kirklancaster]

Oh my god... I've just realised something.

- LT has been possessed by the malevolent spirit of Farage.
- I'm sure I haven't seen Kirk around for a day or two.

- ...Kirk is the malevolent spirit of Farage???

Kirk was away for a few days making lots of lovely money. I have just SOLD OUT all the seats on 5 x 46 seater buses to take members of 'THE GRIMSBY SOCIETY OF UGLY NEGLECTED FISHWIVES' from Grimsby to Worcester and they have paid another £100 each for my 'Tour Guide' to lead them back and forwards past the construction site where Poppy Smart was accosted.

Luuverly Jubberly. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210EA200000578-3060520-Builder_Ian_Merrett_left_was_accused_of_sexual_har assment_for_wo-m-27_1430300252767.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210F1B00000578-3060520-Poppy_Smart_23_has_been_told_she_should_take_it_as _a_compliment-a-28_1430300261796.jpg


Wolf-whistling builder accused of sexual harassment boasts it has helped him 'snog so many women' and brands his target 'a silly little girl' (but admits he DOES have a girlfriend)


A builder who wolf-whistled a young woman only to be accused of sexual harassment said today she is a 'silly little girl' who was 'lucky' to have received the attention.
Ian Merrett, 28, is astonished that Poppy Smart, 23, did not take it as a compliment, which he says has helped him 'snog loads of girls' in the past.
The builder and his colleagues whistled at her every day for a month as she passed their Worcester construction site.
Miss Smart, who compared the wolf-whistling to racial discrimination, eventually filmed them and asked West Mercia Police to investigate alleged sexual harassment.
Mr Merrett admits it was probably him whistling but called Miss Smart a 'silly little girl' who should never have gone to the police.
He said: 'I'm sure if she walks past again and she is lucky she will get wolf-whistled again. I have wolf-whistled so many girls and got so many birds and snogged so many girls off the back of that, and never had a complaint before. But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I say'.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3060520/It-s-parcel-working-site-reputation-s-damaged-Builder-wolf-whistled-pretty-girl-says-s-lucky-happen-won-t-say-girlfriend.html#ixzz3YhdKasjC


get a room you two:idc:

[Ammi]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210EA200000578-3060520-Builder_Ian_Merrett_left_was_accused_of_sexual_har assment_for_wo-m-27_1430300252767.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210F1B00000578-3060520-Poppy_Smart_23_has_been_told_she_should_take_it_as _a_compliment-a-28_1430300261796.jpg


Wolf-whistling builder accused of sexual harassment boasts it has helped him 'snog so many women' and brands his target 'a silly little girl' (but admits he DOES have a girlfriend)


A builder who wolf-whistled a young woman only to be accused of sexual harassment said today she is a 'silly little girl' who was 'lucky' to have received the attention.
Ian Merrett, 28, is astonished that Poppy Smart, 23, did not take it as a compliment, which he says has helped him 'snog loads of girls' in the past.
The builder and his colleagues whistled at her every day for a month as she passed their Worcester construction site.
Miss Smart, who compared the wolf-whistling to racial discrimination, eventually filmed them and asked West Mercia Police to investigate alleged sexual harassment.
Mr Merrett admits it was probably him whistling but called Miss Smart a 'silly little girl' who should never have gone to the police.
He said: 'I'm sure if she walks past again and she is lucky she will get wolf-whistled again. I have wolf-whistled so many girls and got so many birds and snogged so many girls off the back of that, and never had a complaint before. But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I say'.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3060520/It-s-parcel-working-site-reputation-s-damaged-Builder-wolf-whistled-pretty-girl-says-s-lucky-happen-won-t-say-girlfriend.html#ixzz3YhdKasjC


get a room you two:idc:



...well then...

[Northern Monkey]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210EA200000578-3060520-Builder_Ian_Merrett_left_was_accused_of_sexual_har assment_for_wo-m-27_1430300252767.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210F1B00000578-3060520-Poppy_Smart_23_has_been_told_she_should_take_it_as _a_compliment-a-28_1430300261796.jpg


Wolf-whistling builder accused of sexual harassment boasts it has helped him 'snog so many women' and brands his target 'a silly little girl' (but admits he DOES have a girlfriend)


A builder who wolf-whistled a young woman only to be accused of sexual harassment said today she is a 'silly little girl' who was 'lucky' to have received the attention.
Ian Merrett, 28, is astonished that Poppy Smart, 23, did not take it as a compliment, which he says has helped him 'snog loads of girls' in the past.
The builder and his colleagues whistled at her every day for a month as she passed their Worcester construction site.
Miss Smart, who compared the wolf-whistling to racial discrimination, eventually filmed them and asked West Mercia Police to investigate alleged sexual harassment.
Mr Merrett admits it was probably him whistling but called Miss Smart a 'silly little girl' who should never have gone to the police.
He said: 'I'm sure if she walks past again and she is lucky she will get wolf-whistled again. I have wolf-whistled so many girls and got so many birds and snogged so many girls off the back of that, and never had a complaint before. But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I say'.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3060520/It-s-parcel-working-site-reputation-s-damaged-Builder-wolf-whistled-pretty-girl-says-s-lucky-happen-won-t-say-girlfriend.html#ixzz3YhdKasjC


get a room you two:idc:Lovely gentleman.Any girl would be so lucky to have him:joker:

[Niamh.]

Lovely gentleman.Any girl would be so lucky to have him:joker:

I'm sure his girlfriend is thanking her lucky stars as she reads that :hehe:

[Northern Monkey]

I'm sure his girlfriend is thanking her lucky stars as she reads that :hehe:

Poor girl.Never mind,If she dumps him he can use his 'wolf whistle mating call technique' to 'snog' more young females:laugh:

[Ammi]

I'm sure his girlfriend is thanking her lucky stars as she reads that :hehe:

..:laugh:...It would be astonishing if she didn't realise what a terrific guy she has there...

[Livia]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210EA200000578-3060520-Builder_Ian_Merrett_left_was_accused_of_sexual_har assment_for_wo-m-27_1430300252767.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/29/10/28210F1B00000578-3060520-Poppy_Smart_23_has_been_told_she_should_take_it_as _a_compliment-a-28_1430300261796.jpg


Wolf-whistling builder accused of sexual harassment boasts it has helped him 'snog so many women' and brands his target 'a silly little girl' (but admits he DOES have a girlfriend)


A builder who wolf-whistled a young woman only to be accused of sexual harassment said today she is a 'silly little girl' who was 'lucky' to have received the attention.
Ian Merrett, 28, is astonished that Poppy Smart, 23, did not take it as a compliment, which he says has helped him 'snog loads of girls' in the past.
The builder and his colleagues whistled at her every day for a month as she passed their Worcester construction site.
Miss Smart, who compared the wolf-whistling to racial discrimination, eventually filmed them and asked West Mercia Police to investigate alleged sexual harassment.
Mr Merrett admits it was probably him whistling but called Miss Smart a 'silly little girl' who should never have gone to the police.
He said: 'I'm sure if she walks past again and she is lucky she will get wolf-whistled again. I have wolf-whistled so many girls and got so many birds and snogged so many girls off the back of that, and never had a complaint before. But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I say'.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3060520/It-s-parcel-working-site-reputation-s-damaged-Builder-wolf-whistled-pretty-girl-says-s-lucky-happen-won-t-say-girlfriend.html#ixzz3YhdKasjC


get a room you two:idc:

LOL... ****ing Neanderthal.

[Kyle]

'But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I Say'

Darwin Awards 2015 right here, you heard it first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

can you just imagine what would be said (or sung) if she walked past a packed pub of footy fans?

[Marsh.]

can you just imagine what would be said (or sung) if she walked past a packed pub of footy fans?

Would she be likely to walk past and be harassed by a pub full of football fans every single morning on her way to work?

No. :smug:

We're not talking about a one off nuisance easily forgotten about but persistent harassment.

[Kyle]

can you just imagine what would be said (or shot) if she walked past a packed Camp of Al-Qaeda trainees?

[Niamh.]

can you just imagine what would be said (or shot) if she walked past a packed Camp of Al-Qaeda trainees?

That made me laugh way more than it should have :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Would she be likely to walk past and be harassed by a pub full of football fans every single morning on her way to work?

No. :smug:

We're not talking about a one off nuisance easily forgotten about but persistent harassment.

yes all that whistling must have been so traumatic for her :worry:

wheet-wheeal

Its enough to chill you to the very core

[kitchenspoon]

Ok, so not many things pull my attention like this article in the papers recently. After doing a quick search on the article i found this forum thread and after a while reading all the comments just had to reply...

So yes, im new here. Hi.

Since the dawn of man, women and their beauty have been worshiped in one form of another, and since as long as i can remember, wolf whistling has been a sign of a compliment for the working class men to use. I'm male and believe it or not on occasion in my youth i've had women whilste at me from their cars. I've always taken it as a compliment as i'm sure many women feel the same. There is zero justification for this individual wasting police time for wolf whistling.

However...

If this has been persistent, then ideally she ought to just ask them to stop. There are so many options available that could be addressed long before "using the sledgehammer to crack the walnut" approach. I'm sure many of you ask people to stop tapping a pen on a desk when it annoys you, ask people to stop humming and so forth. It's a simple enough request and with manners nobody takes offence. I'm sure you get the point.

If they physically blocked her access, once again no excuse for this, but i find it very difficult to believe that two builders would prevent a woman from walking down the road without physically touching her, that could border on assault, at which we would be looking at a different charge altogether.


You can take alot of example from films over the decades of men whistling at women that look attractive, have all features in the right places that men find enticing... take Pretty Woman featuring Julia Roberts after she goes on her shopping spree... she knows she looks good, she knows she flaunting it and she enjoys the attention from various men.

This girl Poppy is most DEFINITELY flaunting it, id hazard a guess a girl of her demographic has Facebook, Instagram and so forth, and it's highly likely she uploads images of herself, her friends and so forth. I'd go as far to say some of these pictures flaunt her assets... as Facebook, Instagram own the rights to any images uploaded to their platforms, she can't argue about who can and can't compliment her image, assets and so forth.

If you don't want to be noticed and whistled at, don't make yourself noticeable.

[Niamh.]

Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?

[kirklancaster]

can you just imagine what would be said (or shot) if she walked past a packed Camp of Al-Qaeda trainees?

:laugh: Only you could come up with that Kyle.:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?

I think the whole thing (her reporting it, not taking a different road etc) tells you a lot more about her tbh

We only have her word for the blocking thing. She seems to be, as i said before, a piece of work.

Any other girl would have ignored, it, changed route, told them to feck off etc

but for some reason she decided to go to the police who rightly told her to do one in a polite and official manner

No one is excusing the oiks but oiks exist and she needs to get a bit more street savvy and realistic

also maybe get her hair styled :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and welcome to kitchenspoon

[Niamh.]

I think the whole thing (her reporting it, not taking a different road etc) tells you a lot more about her tbh

We only have her word for the blocking thing. She seems to be, as i said before, a piece of work.

Any other girl would have ignored, it, changed route, told them to feck off etc

but for some reason she decided to go to the police who rightly told her to do one in a polite and official manner

No one is excusing the oiks but oiks exist and she needs to get a bit more street savvy and realistic

also maybe get her hair styled :umm2:

We're going round in circles here LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We're going round in circles here LT.

:fist: well go a different route


and put those boobs away

:hehe:

[Niamh.]

:fist: well go a different route


and put those boobs away

:hehe:

:laugh:

[kitchenspoon]

Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?


If it's ongoing i can understand that it would be annoying, especially with men ogling at her and undressing her with their eyes. However, as i mentioned, there were many options available to her before contacting the police. By all accounts it appears none of these avenues were explored. If she felt uncomfortable physically walking on site, or perhaps turning around and asking them to stop, the majority of sites have board up with company names, numbers and so forth. It's evident she has a phone, and it's evident she knows how to use it so surely she could of made a phone call?

Yes i am a guy, and i have a daughter, and obviously being a father, i'd be uncomfortable hearing men wolf whistling at my daughter, i would be even more annoyed if it was consistent. However, manners cost nothing, and nor does asking other people politely that something is not welcome. You'd be surprised how accommodating the regular jo can be when a stranger doesn't like something.

I live in a world where wolf whistling is natural and an acceptable part of society, it's is complimentary, and if seen as anything else other than that has lived in a box for the last century.

This is a snippet of information on the origin of the wolf whistle...

The wolf-whistle originates from the navy General Call made with a boatswain's pipe. The general call is made on a ship to get the attention of all hands for an announcement. Sailors in harbour would whistle the general call when seeing a pretty woman to draw fellow sailors' attention to her. It was eventually picked up by passers-by, not knowing the real meaning of the whistle, and passed on. Over time, the precise tones of the general call were flattened somewhat into the wolf whistle common today.[citation needed] Today, cat-calling or wolf-whistling can be considered a form of sexual harassment.

The action of wolf whistling is really down to interpretation. I see it as a way to get a womans attention and let her know that i like her, i think she's pretty and such. Many would agree with this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

where is her dad. If it was my daughter I would have phoned the boss of the site and told him. but not before asking her to just go a different way

[Niamh.]

If it's ongoing i can understand that it would be annoying, especially with men ogling at her and undressing her with their eyes. However, as i mentioned, there were many options available to her before contacting the police. By all accounts it appears none of these avenues were explored. If she felt uncomfortable physically walking on site, or perhaps turning around and asking them to stop, the majority of sites have board up with company names, numbers and so forth. It's evident she has a phone, and it's evident she knows how to use it so surely she could of made a phone call?

Yes i am a guy, and i have a daughter, and obviously being a father, i'd be uncomfortable hearing men wolf whistling at my daughter, i would be even more annoyed if it was consistent. However, manners cost nothing, and nor does asking other people politely that something is not welcome. You'd be surprised how accommodating the regular jo can be when a stranger doesn't like something.

I live in a world where wolf whistling is natural and an acceptable part of society, it's is complimentary, and if seen as anything else other than that has lived in a box for the last century.

This is a snippet of information on the origin of the wolf whistle...



The action of wolf whistling is really down to interpretation. I see it as a way to get a womans attention and let her know that i like her, i think she's pretty and such. Many would agree with this.

Is it really a natural and acceptable part of society anymore though? I don't know tbh. Now look, as I said it wouldn't bother me that much personally if it were just whistling but I know if it happened to me I would think "****ing idiots" rather than "Oh wow I must look amazing today" :laugh:

You know up until not that long ago grabbing your secretaries ass was perfectly acceptable too (I watch Mad Men you know :P )

As for whether or not she should have went to the company first rather than the Police, that's debatable, if a person is feeling intimidated or harassed, the first port of call is usually the police not the persons employer :shrug: