Farage V feminazi

[the truth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMDZ6xxBOg0

thought Id share this anti male sexist interview on the feminazi bbc
the presenter is meant to be impartial which clearly she is not
Andrew neil was a coward and said nothing
the feminazi scream shouted pointed accused farage of all sorts

in the end, farages point was right.

[Kizzy]

She made excellent points in retaliation, he was left a bumbling mess who couldn't justify his sexist view.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what a rude vile woman who simply did not understand or listen to the point Nigel made about a very specific city industry.

horrible cow

[Helen 28]

Farage put her in her place, what rubbish she talked.

[GypsyGoth]

I wouldn't call her a feminazi.

[billy123]

I wouldn't call her a feminazi.The Truth views all women that have the audacity to disagree with a man like that :joker:
You dont even have to try when it comes to farages extremism his supporters do themselves up like kippers and expose themselves and what they stand for by trying to defend him.
As soon as i saw the post this morning i thought here come the kipper brigadoon to defend their leader :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Truth views all women that have the audacity to disagree with a man like that :joker:
You dont even have to try when it comes to farages extremism his supporters do themselves up like kippers and expose themselves and what they stand for by trying to defend him.
As soon as i saw the post this morning i thought here come the kipper brigadoon to defend their leader :hehe:

so rather than comment about the thread you just insult forum members

plus c'est la même chose

[arista]

That woman can not handle stress well

[Kizzy]

I thought she was very assertive, that's a positive in my book.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought she was very assertive, that's a positive in my book.

no kizzy she was rude and got angry about the wrong thing

[Kizzy]

no kizzy she was rude and got angry about the wrong thing

It's not rude to suggest that mothers are not competent?

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not rude to suggest that mothers are not competent?
Its also rude to say woman are useless moaners but in both cases that is not what this thread is about

[Kizzy]

Why don't you enlighten me as to what in your opinion it is about then.

[Livia]

I wouldn't call her a feminazi.

People often use 'Nazi' when they have no real idea what they mean by it. It's ignorance, mostly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why don't you enlighten me as to what in your opinion it is about then.

just watch the video

[Kizzy]

just watch the video

I did watch the video... :conf:

[Nedusa]

She made excellent points in retaliation, he was left a bumbling mess who couldn't justify his sexist view.

Really.........that's not the view most people took from this.

You been watching this through your anti UKIP glasses again ??

[Kizzy]

Really.........that's not the view most people took from this.

You been watching this through your anti UKIP glasses again ??

Thank god I'm not 'most people' then.
I looked at it objectively and rationally if that's what you mean.

[bots]

I'm with Nigel on this one, she was making up fictitious discrimination where there was none and then trying to compare apples with oranges

[Kizzy]

Would a client really expect someone to remain childless that's the question, in what other area is it imperative that all in your employ choose not to reproduce?
If you employ a female broker of child baring age wouldn't it be better to make your feelings on this clear if it was going to be an issue?... No because it never is, except in Mr Farages head.

[Tom4784]

Anyone that uses the phrase 'Feminazi' should not be taken seriously.

[Niamh.]

Anyone that uses the phrase 'Feminazi' should not be taken seriously.

Indeed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anyone that uses the phrase 'Feminazi' should not be taken seriously.

it makes me think of a slutty sexy female ss officer, which is 6 kinds of wrong :umm2:

[Northern Monkey]

All femenists must be taken 100% seriously.They are fair and balanced human beings...(Specially the ones who simulate killing baby dolls to promote abortion):facepalm:
http://youtu.be/Es1pADNS78w

http://youtu.be/4sq6pWIG5jA

http://youtu.be/BuFuyp8aq2A

[Kizzy]

Has this moved away from a discussion about female brokers now?

[Niamh.]

Looking for equal pay between the sexes makes a person a nazi now?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looking for equal pay between the sexes makes a person a nazi now?

i think her silly hysteronics were the issue

[Northern Monkey]

Still on topic.Just adding some back ground to the femenist side.:laugh:

[Kizzy]

So it wasn't what she said, she was totally correct... It was simply the way she put herself across you object to?

[Crimson Dynamo]

So it wasn't what she said, she was totally correct... It was simply the way she put herself across you object to?

no she did not take Nigels point at all and just went into femi-rant mode about women in the workplace in general

[Niamh.]

Still on topic.Just adding some back ground to the femenist side.:laugh:

You can't lump all "feminists" into the same group though, especially when the proper use for the word feminist relates to equality which, you would assume, most people would agree with?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Look I have sourced another video that will help the wimmen on here to grasp this difficult issue

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[Northern Monkey]

I especially like the 'feminists' who refuse to shave their arm pit hair because......Why should they?It's their RIGHT to walk around looking like they've got Bob Marley in a head lock:joker:

[Niamh.]

I especially like the 'feminists' who refuse to shave their arm pit hair because......Why should they?It's their RIGHT to walk around looking like they've got Bob Marley in a head lock:joker:

Like all you men do :hehe:

[Northern Monkey]

You can't lump all "feminists" into the same group though, especially when the proper use for the word feminist relates to equality which, you would assume, most people would agree with?

Yeah but you start talking about mens rights and you'll see just how 'equal' these feminists want things to be.

[Niamh.]

Yeah but you start talking about mens rights and you'll see just how 'equal' these feminists want things to be.

who are "these feminists" is it like a special club that you have to join? :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Like all you men do :hehe:

It's my right to wear lipstick and a bra but just because i can does'nt mean i do.lol

[Livia]

I especially like the 'feminists' who refuse to shave their arm pit hair because......Why should they?It's their RIGHT to walk around looking like they've got Bob Marley in a head lock:joker:

LMFAOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Northern Monkey]

who are "these feminists" is it like a special club that you have to join? :laugh:

I'm not sure what the initiation ceremony is.Apart from not shaving for a month:laugh:

[Kizzy]

no she did not take Nigels point at all and just went into femi-rant mode about women in the workplace in general

She addressed the issue of gardening breaks specifically... that corresponded exactly to his point didn't it?
It's a fair point that if there is equality in all other areas it follows that it should not be a detriment being a female broker surely.

[Northern Monkey]

LMFAOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo

:hehe: (can't believe i got away with that one)

[Livia]

She's a financial analyst, he's talking specifically about brokers. She's not grasped what he's saying at all, and as for saying he's insulted his own daughters... terrible. I'm tired of gobby women who believe they can have it all. You can't.

[Livia]

:hehe: (can't believe i got away with that one)

It was the best one today. Made me literally lol.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She addressed the issue of gardening breaks specifically... that corresponded exactly to his point didn't it?
It's a fair point that if there is equality in all other areas it follows that it should not be a detriment being a female broker surely.

well she is trying to equate getting poached to having children and as has been said that is apples and oranges.

Staff will get poached, male and female and acquired too but women staff can and do also have babies i think the point he is making is

[Kizzy]

So you can be a mother and an astronaut.. a brain surgeon... a pilot, but don't think of becoming a broker! :laugh:

[Niamh.]

She's a financial analyst, he's talking specifically about brokers. She's not grasped what he's saying at all, and as for saying he's insulted his own daughters... terrible. I'm tired of gobby women who believe they can have it all. You can't.

You can't have a career if you have kids and are female? wow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So you can be a mother and an astronaut.. a brain surgeon... a pilot, but don't think of becoming a broker! :laugh:

there are a few jobs where i would imagine young women get overlooked

[Northern Monkey]

Despite my previous humour i am actually all for equal pay and opportunities for women.I do think that maybe some jobs may not be suited for motherhood only in that some proffessions can't afford the woman to have months off on maternity leave.Some women do go back alot earlier.I'd say most proffessions can make concessions for maternity leave but not all.Men usually only get two weeks whereas a woman can be off up to almost a year.

[Kizzy]

well she is trying to equate getting poached to having children and as has been said that is apples and oranges.

Staff will get poached, male and female and acquired too but women staff can and do also have babies i think the point he is making is

And I have made the point that it is down to the employer to decide who he takes on...
It's not apples and oranges though is it as if the focus is meant to be that you are so dedicated to your clients/ the firm you work for that any break no matter how short is frowned upon then why is being poached an acceptable norm.... Is that not more disruptive and/ or detrimental to your clients/firm?
He is perpetuating the 'jobs for the boys' myth. People trying to drag the mindset backwards are just not de rigueur.

[Kizzy]

there are a few jobs where i would imagine young women get overlooked

Funny because my daughter has just graduated from Lancaster and her phone just never stops ringing....
As far as I know though she's not going into space.....yet :)

[the truth]

he made a totally legitimate and specific point about a specific job he knew a lot about....stocks are instant and if you choose to take a career break it hits your career and your pay packet. fact. the feminist was not only too ignorant and frankly stupid to even listen to his points, she started ranting pointing and insulting and dragging in a ton of irrelevant nonsense. furthermore the female presenter was biased unprofessional and totally sexist, all bbc impartiality was lost as always on matters of feminism.
imagine your life savings are all with a broker you trust when she choose to leave her career and go to have a baby....are you going to find another broker or wait a few years? the trouble too is the courts are so biased in favour of mothers that mothers want the kids and the home but they cant keep the career too , not at the same level not at the same time and certainly not in this specific career....one day the penny wil drop women, feminists NO ONE can have it all

[kirklancaster]

I especially like the 'feminists' who refuse to shave their arm pit hair because......Why should they?It's their RIGHT to walk around looking like they've got Bob Marley in a head lock:joker:

:clap1::clap1::clap1: AND :joker::joker::joker: Classic.

[kirklancaster]

Despite my previous humour i am actually all for equal pay and opportunities for women.I do think that maybe some jobs may not be suited for motherhood only in that some proffessions can't afford the woman to have months off on maternity leave.Some women do go back alot earlier.I'd say most proffessions can make concessions for maternity leave but not all.Men usually only get two weeks whereas a woman can be off up to almost a year.

:joker: What have you been on today Paul? :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember the old Mrs LT kicking off when I booked a golf holiday when I got 1 weeks maternity leave for our first brat


there is just NO pleasing some women

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m412tfAIk91qa8t5l.gif

[Livia]

You can't have a career if you have kids and are female? wow.

There are some jobs that don't sit with being a mother. I could get a call today that will mean I'll be at the airport in a couple of hours, with no set return date. There are mothers who do my job, I'm not suggesting there are none, but nannies raise their children. If and when I have a child I wouldn't want that.

[Niamh.]

There are some jobs that don't sit with being a mother. I could get a call today that will mean I'll be at the airport in a couple of hours, with no set return date. There are mothers who do my job, I'm not suggesting there are none, but nannies raise their children. If and when I have a child I wouldn't want that.

Sure but ideally there would be two parents in a home

[Livia]

Sure but ideally there would be two parents in a home

If the husband stays home, then fine... but it doesn't always work out like that. If I have kids I would want to give them my 100% attention and I couldn't if I was doing my current job.

[Niamh.]

If the husband stays home, then fine... but it doesn't always work out like that. If I have kids I would want to give them my 100% attention and I couldn't if I was doing my current job.

That's you though, doesn't mean that all women would want to give up their job and stay home

[Livia]

That's you though, doesn't mean that all women would want to give up their job and stay home

I can't imagine a woman with either no husband or a working husband being able to give enough to the job and still be able to raise her kids. It's just the way it is. Do another job... do another job in the same area of work... go back to it when the kids are older. I'm not suggesting women should stay at home, only that there are some jobs that aren't suitable when you have a young family unless you have a husband willing to support you 100%. And in my experience, that isn't always the case.

[Niamh.]

I can't imagine a woman with either no husband or a working husband being able to give enough to the job and still be able to raise her kids. It's just the way it is. Do another job... do another job in the same area of work... go back to it when the kids are older. I'm not suggesting women should stay at home, only that there are some jobs that aren't suitable when you have a young family unless you have a husband willing to support you 100%. And in my experience, that isn't always the case.

Yet no one ever tells men they "can't have it all" or have a good career if they have kids

[Livia]

Yet no one ever tells men they "can't have it all" or have a good career if they have kids

No, that's true. That'll change with generations, I think. Or until men give birth! Right now though, like I said, the only women I know who work with me and have kids have live-in nannies, and I wouldn't want that.

[Livia]

Funny because my daughter has just graduated from Lancaster and her phone just never stops ringing....
As far as I know though she's not going into space.....yet :)

Yes, the Tories have created lots of jobs for graduates.

[Niamh.]

No, that's true. That'll change with generations, I think. Or until men give birth! Right now though, like I said, the only women I know who work with me and have kids have live-in nannies, and I wouldn't want that.

And that's your choice which you're absolutely entitled to but having a nanny doesn't make you bad parent either.

[Livia]

And that's your choice which you're absolutely entitled to but having a nanny doesn't make you bad parent either.

Having a nanny doesn't mean you're having it all. Having a nanny means you're having a career while someone else is bringing up your child. That's what I mean by not being able to have it all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And that's your choice which you're absolutely entitled to but having a nanny doesn't make you bad parent either.

no but perhaps its an indication that you could be?

[Niamh.]

Having a nanny doesn't mean you're having it all. Having a nanny means you're having a career while someone else is bringing up your child. That's what I mean by not being able to have it all.

It's always the women that get told they're not having it all or that someone else is raising their child though, no one ever says that to men, it really pisses me off. I think that's what annoys me most. I understand what point you were making though and I agree that ideally a child should be raised by it's parents/family, it just annoys me that women are the bad guys or the ones accused of "wanting it all" and the dads are just being men

[Livia]

It's always the women that get told they're not having it all or that someone else is raising their child though, no one ever says that to men, it really pisses me off. I think that's what annoys me most. I understand what point you were making though and I agree that ideally a child should be raised by it's parents/family, it just annoys me that women are the bad guys or the ones accused of "wanting it all" and the dads are just being men

My brother took five years away from work when his children were small as his wife had the better paid job (by a long chalk), so he stayed home and she went back to work. Now they're at school she still has the high-flying career while my brother's work is local and allows him to be there for the children. It's worked out well for them. I think there will be much more of that in the future. I hope so.

[Niamh.]

My brother took five years away from work when his children were small as his wife had the better paid job (by a long chalk), so he stayed home and she went back to work. Now they're at school she still has the high-flying career while my brother's work is local and allows him to be there for the children. It's worked out well for them. I think there will be much more of that in the future. I hope so.

Good for him, that's proper team work :love:

[user104658]

EEeeerrrmmmm uuuurrrggghhhh my eyeballs might actually melt if I say this but, on this occasion, Farage is less wrong than the "overexcited" lady.

I don't necessarily think that Farage is right, it's a much more complicated issue than he's presenting, but there's nothing inherently wrong in what he's saying. The pay gap DOES, these days, have much more to do with lifestyle and family choices than any sort of active discrimination.

You can't be an ideal parent and have a high-flying career that takes up 90% of your life. Male or female. You just can't. It's not that it's any different for mums and dads - just that the current social norm is for mothers to be more active parents, therefore that is generally what happens, therefore more women take time out of work than their male counterparts, therefore there is a pay gap.

Anyway... the reason that the loud lady is wrong on this occasion is mainly just that she keeps trying to disprove a broad statement by offering specific examples. "It can't be true that this stops most women from [whatever] because look at me / Betty / Sue / Jane!". She could reel off specific examples all day and it would have absolutely no logical impact on the statement regarding "most women". Because "most" is not "all". Meh. I think she really did miss the point. Went in hot-headed responding to an argument that hadn't even been stated.

[the truth]

No, that's true. That'll change with generations, I think. Or until men give birth! Right now though, like I said, the only women I know who work with me and have kids have live-in nannies, and I wouldn't want that.
but men lose the kids and their homes if the wife ever wants a divorce so the man has far more to lose and far less grounds when the wife wants him out...so everyone pays a price one way or another

[Livia]

but men lose the kids and their homes if the wife ever wants a divorce so the man has far more to lose and far less grounds when the wife wants him out...so everyone pays a price one way or another

That's a completely separate issue.

[the truth]

That's a completely separate issue.

no its not. the fact that women get more time off work means they spend more quality time with their kids and strengthens those relationships which in turn means that if there is ever a divorce the law courts will come down in favour of the women over 80% of the time. thus the man loses his home and his kids over 80% of the time...that's the risk he takes by spending less time at home with the kids and at work earning mony to pay the bills...its entirely the same issue as its directly linked and is a direct consequence of the man on average spending more unbroken time at work in his career than the woman. you simply have to look at the whole picture here to form a legitimate opinion not just a tiny part of it

[Livia]

no its not. the fact that women get more time off work means they spend more quality time with their kids and strengthens those relationships which in turn means that if there is ever a divorce the law courts will come down in favour of the women over 80% of the time. thus the man loses his home and his kids over 80% of the time...that's the risk he takes by spending less time at home with the kids and at work earning mony to pay the bills...its entirely the same issue as its directly linked and is a direct consequence of the man on average spending more unbroken time at work in his career than the woman. you simply have to look at the whole picture here to form a legitimate opinion not just a tiny part of it

I give up....

[the truth]

I give up....

good, because I'm right. Men face enormous consequences simply for working longer. Yet this is not discussed on the feminist biased radical liberal bbc.

[kirklancaster]

I give up....

:joker:

[Livia]

good, because I'm right. Men face enormous consequences simply for working longer. Yet this is not discussed on the feminist biased radical liberal bbc.

So what about the women who give up their careers to raise a family and support their husband, only for the husband fifteen years or so later to decide he doesn't love her anymore and wants a divorce. She now possesses no up to date skills for the modern workplace, probably doesn't have a pension either. So she has to take a lower skilled job and virtually start again.

It's not all horrible women doing wrong to their angelic men.

[Ninastar]

Women are disgusting and deserve death tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Women are disgusting and deserve death tbh

:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Women are disgusting and deserve death tbh

Lol!:joker:

[kirklancaster]

Lol!:joker:

:nono: No LOL - I think she means it..... Now LOL :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

:nono: No LOL - I think she means it..... Now LOL :joker:
:dog:

[kirklancaster]

:dog:

:joker::joker::joker:

[the truth]

So what about the women who give up their careers to raise a family and support their husband, only for the husband fifteen years or so later to decide he doesn't love her anymore and wants a divorce. She now possesses no up to date skills for the modern workplace, probably doesn't have a pension either. So she has to take a lower skilled job and virtually start again.

It's not all horrible women doing wrong to their angelic men.

I thought you said this was all irrelevant?
she still gets to keep the home and kids in over 80% of cases?

[Kizzy]

Yes, the Tories have created lots of jobs for graduates.

I would like you to correlate what the prospects were prior to 2010 before you suggest that.... Don't forget she's tens of thousands of pounds in debt thanks to the tories too.

[letmein]

It's amazing the amount of Fascists this board houses.

[the truth]

It's amazing the amount of Fascists this board houses.

I agree these radical liberals are out of control and most are out of parliament too lol

[Niamh.]

This thread gives me a headache :laugh:

[Jose Mourinho]

Hahah Nigel Farage haha!

[GiRTh]

This thread gives me a headache :laugh::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This thread gives me a headache :laugh:

Not a woman using the i cant as iv got a headache line?

[user104658]

Yeah Niamh be careful - that's why LT killed his last wife, or so I read...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah Niamh be careful - that's why LT killed his last wife, or so I read...

She is not dead she is a shady glade tree root inspector

[user104658]

She is not dead she is a shady glade tree root inspector
Hold on a minute, last time this came up you said she was a deep sea explorer. And the time before that, an industrial furnace cleaner. A woman of many talents, Mr Trumpet?

[Livia]

I thought you said this was all irrelevant?
she still gets to keep the home and kids in over 80% of cases?

thetruth demonstrating that 40% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[kirklancaster]

Hold on a minute, last time this came up you said she was a deep sea explorer. And the time before that, an industrial furnace cleaner. A woman of many talents, Mr Trumpet?

:laugh: Or he's had three ex-wives disappear in mysterious circumstances.

[user104658]

[emoji23] Or he's had three ex-wives disappear in mysterious circumstances.
He still has a long way to go to compete with the truth. Over 78.5% of the truth's wives have gone missing in mysterious circumstances.

[the truth]

thetruth demonstrating that 40% of statistics are made up on the spot.

at last you confess