"Fat and ugly doesn't count as disabled"

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Mother finds cruel note branding her 'fat and ugly' after parking in disabled bay at Tesco


Sarah Metcalfe suffers from neurological illness that causes chronic pain
She used disabled bay when shopping at Tesco Extra with 13-year-old son
But returned to find the offensive handwritten note on her windscreen
The 35-year-old is calling on the 'coward' behind the note to come forward


Without an official Blue Badge, Sarah Metcalfe was hesitant about parking in a disabled bay at her local supermarket.

However, she was in so much pain from a chronic condition that she felt she had little choice if she was to get round the shop with her son. (so she says...)

When she got back to the car a note was left on her window



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3069963/Being-fat-ugly-doesn-t-count-disabled-Cruel-note-left-mother-s-windscreen-Tesco-car-park.html#ixzz3ZRH5lZ3O


Do you think this woman should either get a badge or park elsewhere and leave the bays for disabled people? And should she be driving with a child at all?

[Cherie]

This woman was on 5 live this morning, the note is horrible if the person wanted to make a valid point they should have worded it differently. Apparently she has applied for a Blue Badge so under the law until she receives it she is not entitled to park in a disabled bay and she shouldn't IMO :shrug:

[Kizzy]

The note was unnecessary and rude, she should apply for a badge if she feels she needs one.

[Vanessa]

That was so rude! :mad:

[Liam-]

The note was totally uncalled for and horrible, but saying that, unless she has a badge, she shouldn't be parking in disabled spaces.

[Cherie]

The note was unnecessary and rude, she should apply for a badge if she feels she needs one.

She has applied so she felt she was entitled to park :fist:

[Niamh.]

The paper that person wrote the note on annoys me as much as the note itself

[Crimson Dynamo]

also the word doesn't

just write does not

[waterhog]

no one no's what goes on inside - if someone has a disability badge you are not here to question why ?

nor even do a nikki graham as say who is she who is she who is she ?

[Niamh.]

no one no's what goes on inside - if someone has a disability badge you are not here to question why ?

nor even do a nikki graham as say who is she who is she who is she ?

She didn't actually have a badge though (eventhough she had applied for one)

[Ross.]

The paper that person wrote the note on annoys me as much as the note itself

This, did someone really write an abusive note on a bit of paper with two high heels on it. :laugh:

[waterhog]

if she had no badge she is in the wrong - but so is the person who left the note.

i mean its like me leaving a poem on your door

[Crimson Dynamo]

"However, on the day in question she was in so much pain she decided to use her judgment and park in the bays because they did not specify that a Blue Badge was required.

She said: ‘I don’t like to claim benefits, I like to just try and get on with it, but the pain was so bad on this occasion that I was forced to used a disabled bay to limit the walk."

then go home love and order your shopping online


the whole story smells of bs to me

[Niamh.]

This, did someone really write an abusive note on a bit of paper with two high heels on it. :laugh:

I bet they bought a note book of that stuff just to use it to abuse people :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

I dont think the note is right of course but I personally find people who park in disabled parking without a blue badge really infuriating. My Nana has Arthritis and sometimes she can barely walk to the toilet without crying and when you see abled bodied people parked up in disability spaces it proper pisses me off.

Sure she claims to have applied and I do feel sorry for her for being ill but her 'judgement' could have stopped somebody who has the NEED for the space in parking up. She's a selfish bitch quite frankly. Don't park there without a disability card, it doesnt have to specify you need a blue badge its called common knowledge and if she has applied to claim a disability badge and read the form it actually states you can't use them without a badge.

[Niamh.]

I dont think the note is right of course but I personally find people who park in disabled parking without a blue badge really infuriating. My Nana has Arthritis and sometimes she can barely walk to the toilet without crying and when you see abled bodied people parked up in disability spaces it proper pisses me off.

Sure she claims to have applied and I do feel sorry for her for being ill but her 'judgement' could have stopped somebody who has the NEED for the space in parking up. She's a selfish bitch quite frankly. Don't park there without a disability card, it doesnt have to specify you need a blue badge its called common knowledge and if she has applied to claim a disability badge and read the form it actually states you can't use them without a badge.

Yeah i'm tending to agree with this (although the insults in the note were uncalled for) People parking in the disabled spot without actually being elderly or disabled is a real pet peeve of mine

[Livia]

The paper that person wrote the note on annoys me as much as the note itself

I was thinking the same...

If she hasn't got a blue badge she shouldn't have parked there. The note was unnecessary but if it was from a disabled person unable to park, it makes it slightly more understandable.

[Cherie]

I was thinking the same...

If she hasn't got a blue badge she shouldn't have parked there. The note was unnecessary but if it was from a disabled person unable to park, it makes it slightly more understandable.

The notepaper would suggest teenage girls tbf

[Niamh.]

Does that women look really familiar to anyone else btw? :think:

[Livia]

The notepaper would suggest teenage girls tbf

I'm not sure teenage girls would be that concerned about who was parking in a disabled bay. Unless it was a disabled teenager, of course.

[Amy Jade]

Yeah i'm tending to agree with this (although the insults in the note were uncalled for) People parking in the disabled spot without actually being elderly or disabled is a real pet peeve of mine

It could have been written by a disabled person or a family member of a disabled person. I totally agree the note is rude and totally uncalled for but they could have been incredibly angry at having not being able to park where they have the right to park because this woman decided she felt like parking there that day without the right.

[Niamh.]

It could have been written by a disabled person or a family member of a disabled person. I totally agree the note is rude and totally uncalled for but they could have been incredibly angry at having not being able to park where they have the right to park because this woman decided she felt like parking there that day without the right.

True enough

[Amy Jade]

I'm not sure teenage girls would be that concerned about who was parking in a disabled bay. Unless it was a disabled teenager, of course.

I'm a teenager with a disabled grandparent who would confront somebody for lazy parking :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does that women look really familiar to anyone else btw? :think:

matt lucas teas?

[Niamh.]

The notepaper would suggest teenage girls tbf

I'm not sure teenage girls would be that concerned about who was parking in a disabled bay. Unless it was a disabled teenager, of course.

Could be the mother of a teenage girl who borrowed some of her note paper :smug:

[Niamh.]

matt lucas teas?

Oh stop you :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

matt lucas teas?

:joker:

[Amy Jade]

Sorry if I come off as a bitch in my last reply Niamh, I just read back and I sound a bit preachy but it's something that really annoys me haha

[Niamh.]

Sorry if I come off as a bitch in my last reply Niamh, I just read back and I sound a bit preachy but it's something that really annoys me haha

haha no you didn't :laugh: It actually annoys me alot too

[Cherie]

Could be the mother of a teenage girl who borrowed some of her note paper :smug:

True :laugh:

[bots]

Loads of cctv cameras in that car park. Tesco's will know exactly who left the note ... maybe it was a tesco employee :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Why is she even bothered.. It's nobody important to her, why would she even care what they thought? You can't curl up everytime some ignorami has a sideswipe at you.

[Nedusa]

We could all think of reasons we should park in a disabled bay from backaches to Migraines but clearly we are not "disabled" and neither is she.

A bit nasty to write the comments on the note so both are at fault on this.

[bots]

Why is she even bothered.. It's nobody important to her, why would she even care what they thought? You can't curl up everytime some ignorami has a sideswipe at you.

Its amazing its considered news worthy by a newspaper. If they had assaulted her or damaged her car or something, maybe there was a story, but people get called much worse than that just walking down the street every day of the week

[Kizzy]

I'm not saying it wasn't upsetting but when you put it in perspective it's just some stranger isn't it? With any luck she won't dwell on this persons nastiness and negativity for too long :)

[Livia]

I'm a teenager with a disabled grandparent who would confront somebody for lazy parking :)

Good for you AJ, so would I.

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe next time she will park properly and not deny a badge holder a space

[Livia]

maybe next time she will park properly and not deny a badge holder a space

So true. And to play devil's advocate for a minute... maybe if she lost a little weight it might help her condition and she won't feel it necessary to have special parking privileges.

[smudgie]

Normally plenty of parking spaces near the entrance to Tesco.
If I was having a bad day, I would go when it is quiet to make sure I could get near enough the entrance without using disabled spaces.
I have to put my hand up to using the disabled spaces at our doctors on a bad day...but it is my own fault for not applying for a badge, doc told me years ago that I should.
I think the note is a tad uncalled for to be honest, written by a moron.

[Firewire]

I must admit I do make internal comments about people who park in disabled spaces without a badge but it just shows you that you never really know people's circumstances. It was totally uncalled for to write a note like that. People are gross.

[kirklancaster]

The paper that person wrote the note on annoys me as much as the note itself

:joker: Only you Niamh.:laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Which is the more nasty: Words (and apt descriptors at that if truth be told) or the lazy arrogance which could cause a GENUINELY disabled legitimate Blue Badge holder to either not be able to park and shop or to have to park a further distance away in a non-disabled parking spot and struggle to and from the store?

I know my answer.... Pass me a pen and paper.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I must admit I do make internal comments about people who park in disabled spaces without a badge but it just shows you that you never really know people's circumstances. It was totally uncalled for to write a note like that. People are gross.

yes but that lady may be lying through her teeth and was just lazy and that is gross too

she learned a lesson, a harsh one but perhaps next time she will park properly

[kirklancaster]

yes but that lady may be lying through her teeth and was just lazy and that is gross too

she learned a lesson, a harsh one but perhaps next time she will park properly

Or have plastic surgery and go on a diet.:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Or have plastic surgery and go on a diet.:hehe:

well she needs to lose about 4 stone by the look of her and i am sure that will help her "claimed" condition

[kirklancaster]

well she needs to lose about 4 stone by the look of her and i am sure that will help her "claimed" condition

That hits the Nail squarely on the Head LT - Any of us can 'claim' any B.S can't we?

She might be fitter than Usain Bolt. :laugh:

[the truth]

She didn't actually have a badge though (eventhough she had applied for one)

shes the guilty part y here illegally taking up a disabled persons parking spot as she doesn't have a blue badge....shes a disgrace

[Josy]

That note is terrible and the person that wrote it should be ashamed of themselves, saying that though, she doesn't actually hold a blue badge at this time so she shouldn't have parked where she did.

[the truth]

That note is terrible and the person that wrote it should be ashamed of themselves, saying that though, she doesn't actually hold a blue badge at this time so she shouldn't have parked where she did.

she should have had a parking fine and points on her license, stealing a disabled parking spot is illegal and immoral.

[Niamh.]

she should have had a parking fine and points on her license, stealing a disabled parking spot is illegal and immoral.

Indeed but insulting how she looks is not necessary

[Crimson Dynamo]

Indeed but insulting how she looks is not necessary



tbf they kind of nailed it

:dog:

[kirklancaster]

tbf they kind of nailed it

:dog:

:joker::joker::joker:

[the truth]

Indeed but insulting how she looks is not necessary

shes trying to be the victim now, but shes the crook here...stealing disabled parking spots is sick and illegal and she should be fined and blackballed...clearly this wouldn't be the first time shes stolen disabled parking spots...the person who wrote it was clearly furious with her criminal immoral act. the person could have worded it just because youre lazy doesn't make you disabled, either way it was a reaction to her cruel aw breaking

[Kazanne]

I dont think the note is right of course but I personally find people who park in disabled parking without a blue badge really infuriating. My Nana has Arthritis and sometimes she can barely walk to the toilet without crying and when you see abled bodied people parked up in disability spaces it proper pisses me off.

Sure she claims to have applied and I do feel sorry for her for being ill but her 'judgement' could have stopped somebody who has the NEED for the space in parking up. She's a selfish bitch quite frankly. Don't park there without a disability card, it doesnt have to specify you need a blue badge its called common knowledge and if she has applied to claim a disability badge and read the form it actually states you can't use them without a badge.

I agree,you also get selfish people parking in mother and child spaces aswell,keep the hell out of them,they are clearly marked,some people think the world owes them a living!

[GypsyGoth]

The paper that person wrote the note on annoys me as much as the note itself

:laugh2:

[Niamh.]

shes trying to be the victim now, but shes the crook here...stealing disabled parking spots is sick and illegal and she should be fined and blackballed...clearly this wouldn't be the first time shes stolen disabled parking spots...the person who wrote it was clearly furious with her criminal immoral act. the person could have worded it just because youre lazy doesn't make you disabled, either way it was a reaction to her cruel aw breaking

Well, she's not getting a whole lot of sympathy on this thread anyway so I think her victim plan has backfired a bit :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

shes trying to be the victim now, but shes the crook here...stealing disabled parking spots is sick and illegal and she should be fined and blackballed...clearly this wouldn't be the first time shes stolen disabled parking spots...the person who wrote it was clearly furious with her criminal immoral act. the person could have worded it just because youre lazy doesn't make you disabled, either way it was a reaction to her cruel aw breaking

:clap1: She is no different to those ignorant pigs who push in queues, rev their motorbikes up for hours on end for no reason on a quiet sunny Sunday afternoon, and cut you up in their souped up scrappers at 80 mph in a 30 zone outside a busy school,or those who park on junctions obstructing other road user's views. They all do it because they are arrogant and think they are above the law and do not give a damn for anyone but themselves.

[kirklancaster]

Well, she's not getting a whole lot of sympathy on this thread anyway so I think her victim plan has backfired a bit :laugh:

:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

I was thinking the same...

If she hasn't got a blue badge she shouldn't have parked there. The note was unnecessary but if it was from a disabled person unable to park, it makes it slightly more understandable.

This

[Cherie]

She made a fuss about it to raise awareness of unseen disability apparently which is fair enough I suppose, wait for the badge to one through before parking in a bay though

[Niamh.]

She made a fuss about it to raise awareness of unseen disability apparently which is fair enough I suppose, wait for the badge to one through before parking in a bay though

By that reckoning though no one should ever complain about people who look able bodied and who don't have a badge on the off chance that they might have a hidden disability and aren't just selfish ***** :laugh:


***again though I don't agree with the way the note was worded

[arista]

The paper that person wrote the note on annoys me as much as the note itself


Get over it


Rules Are Rules

[Niamh.]

Get over it


Rules Are Rules

eh? :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

eh? :laugh:

yeah neem

thats you told

[Niamh.]

yeah neem

thats you told

alright, alright, I'll stop attacking the high heel paper :bawling:

[Crimson Dynamo]

alright, alright, I'll stop attacking the high heel paper :bawling:

:joker:

[kirklancaster]

alright, alright, I'll stop attacking the high heel paper :bawling:

:laugh:

[Tom4784]

God any old **** will make the news these days.

She didn't have a badge so she shouldn't have parked there. There's not much else to say.

[Tom4784]

Also it was definitely a mother that wrote that, that piece of paper is so mumsy it hurts.

[arista]

eh? :laugh:


Park in the Correct place

[Niamh.]

Park in the Correct place

What are you giving out to me for? :nono:

[arista]

What are you giving out to me for? :nono:


Because ignore the Note
Follow the Laws



Feel The Force

[Niamh.]

Because ignore the Note
Follow the Laws



Feel The Force

Did you read my posts at all? I said I agreed that that woman shouldn't have parked there

[kirklancaster]

What are you giving out to me for? :nono:

:joker: LT's paid him.

[Niamh.]

Arista harbouring ill will against me over Rossdotgate :hmph:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Arista harbouring ill will against me over Rossdotgate :hmph:

:joker:

thats what I thought


:nono: he is right tho

[arista]

Did you read my posts at all? I said I agreed that that woman shouldn't have parked there


Yes but I picked you early reply of YOU
getting angry with the Note

[arista]

:joker:

thats what I thought


:nono: he is right tho


Thanks LT.

[Niamh.]

Yes but I picked you early reply of YOU
getting angry with the Note

I was more angry about the high heel note paper tbf

[arista]

I was more angry about the high heel note paper tbf


OK

[Z]

Does that women look really familiar to anyone else btw? :think:

Yeah she looks like this fat ugly bitch I saw parking at my local supermarket

[kirklancaster]

Yeah she looks like this fat ugly bitch I saw parking at my local supermarket

:joker:

[Suze]

Does that women look really familiar to anyone else btw? :think:

She reminds me facially a little bit of Mary before she got zombified in Shaun of the Dead. Speaking of Zombies, I found some Zombie Garden Gnomes online, am tempted to buy one now for the garden :D

[Dollface]

I read this story the other day and if i remember correctly, although the woman didn't have a disabled badge to display, she was indeed disabled, so i don't understand why so many of you are saying she shouldn't of parked there. Tesco doesn't require you to own a disabled badge, or so i read.

[Cherie]

I read this story the other day and if i remember correctly, although the woman didn't have a disabled badge to display, she was indeed disabled, so i don't understand why so many of you are saying she shouldn't of parked there. Tesco doesn't require you to own a disabled badge, or so i read.

They do require a badge in disabled bays, if anyone can park in the bay there wouldn't be much point in having them.

[Dollface]

They do require a badge in disabled bays, if anyone can park in the bay there wouldn't be much point in having them.

I'm sure when i was reading the story it mentioned that Tesco doesn't insist you have a blue badge when parking in their disabled bays - i don't know if that's true or not but either way if she is telling the truth, she IS disabled and was in pain that day, so i don't understand why people are saying she's immoral or a criminal or whatever, there are much MUCH worse people in the world lol

[Livia]

That's not true, Dollface. Tesco has apparently started to fine customers...

"Tesco has gone a step further than persuasion - reasoning that if drivers are willing to ignore a polite request they are less likely to enjoy paying a hefty fine.

In a trial at one of its Leicester sites, drivers are fined £40 if they don't display a disabled parking badge, rising to £60 if they fail to pay within a week."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3485239.stm

If you are disabled and park in a disabled bay, you should display a badge. If you don't have a badge, get one. If you can't get one, you're probably not disabled enough to warrant having one.

[Crimson Dynamo]

""I wouldn't have been able to go in if I hadn't used it - my ankles had become so weak that I was worried I'd go over on them. But I was enjoying a day out with my son so was determined to make it in. "

but she was happy to drive a car, happy to drag her son into Tescos on her "enjoyable day out"

If she was that ill go home and do online or shop when you are fit


There is zero evidence she was ill that day or in pain

[Dollface]

That's not true, Dollface. Tesco has apparently started to fine customers...

"Tesco has gone a step further than persuasion - reasoning that if drivers are willing to ignore a polite request they are less likely to enjoy paying a hefty fine.

In a trial at one of its Leicester sites, drivers are fined £40 if they don't display a disabled parking badge, rising to £60 if they fail to pay within a week."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3485239.stm

If you are disabled and park in a disabled bay, you should display a badge. If you don't have a badge, get one. If you can't get one, you're probably not disabled enough to warrant having one.

Oh ffs why do people put false information in their articles, it's just made me look stupid now :fist:

Thank you clearing that up

[Cherie]

I'm sure when i was reading the story it mentioned that Tesco doesn't insist you have a blue badge when parking in their disabled bays - i don't know if that's true or not but either way if she is telling the truth, she IS disabled and was in pain that day, so i don't understand why people are saying she's immoral or a criminal or whatever, there are much MUCH worse people in the world lol

True enough I suppose it's just anyone could say they were in pain that is why they issue badges for genuine need, I can see her point but she needs to obey the law until she gets one.

[Livia]

Oh ffs why do people put false information in their articles, it's just made me look stupid now :fist:

Thank you clearing that up

You don't look stupid at all x

[Suze]

""I wouldn't have been able to go in if I hadn't used it - my ankles had become so weak that I was worried I'd go over on them. But I was enjoying a day out with my son so was determined to make it in. "

but she was happy to drive a car, happy to drag her son into Tescos on her "enjoyable day out"

If she was that ill go home and do online or shop when you are fit


There is zero evidence she was ill that day or in pain

I have no idea if she needed a blue badge or not, but as Livia said, park elsewhere until she gets the badge if she is entitled to one.


Picking up on the highlighted bit of your quote LT, I wonder why she never used a wheelchair that day or a walking stick? As there was nothing in the news article to suggest she did.

[Dollface]

Ah here's where i got it from - http://money.aol.co.uk/2015/05/06/young-mum-insulted-for-using-disabled-parking-bay/

"Although she hasn't yet had her application for a Blue Badge approved, it's not required by Tesco." :fist:

[Livia]

Ah here's where i got it from - http://money.aol.co.uk/2015/05/06/young-mum-insulted-for-using-disabled-parking-bay/

"Although she hasn't yet had her application for a Blue Badge approved, it's not required by Tesco." :fist:

They're making it up :fist:

A rather more flattering picture than the one in the first post, too...

[bots]

what everyone seems to be forgetting is that aside from anything else, tesco car parks are private land and so not covered by any laws whatsoever with regard to disabled parking, so she was actually perfectly within her rights to park where she did

[Livia]

what everyone seems to be forgetting is that aside from anything else, tesco car parks are private land and so not covered by any laws whatsoever with regard to disabled parking, so she was actually perfectly within her rights to park where she did

The car park being private land makes no difference if disabled bays are provided and a badge is required by the company. There are zebra crossings in supermarket car parks, you are still required to stop if a pedestrian is on one.

[the truth]

the only person I feel sorry for is the disabled person who couldn't get a spot because this selfish immoral woman stole the spot illegally

[kirklancaster]

I just wish I'd a grand for the 'disabled' people I know of - badges et al - who play footie every week and hit the dance floor every Saturday night.

(Kirk the Ukipper fascist being controversial again. :hehe:)

[Niamh.]

She reminds me facially a little bit of Mary before she got zombified in Shaun of the Dead. Speaking of Zombies, I found some Zombie Garden Gnomes online, am tempted to buy one now for the garden :D

I was only saying the other day I want to start collecting garden gnomes :love:

[the truth]

note im one of the few members who has NOT mocked this womans appearance....kudos to the truth me thinks

[Crimson Dynamo]

note im one of the few members who has NOT mocked this womans appearance....kudos to the truth me thinks

I will get marsh to drop round your medal when he has finished his tea and done his homework



:fan:

[Marsh.]

note im one of the few members who has NOT mocked this womans appearance....kudos to the truth me thinks

:clap1:

There's a first time for everything.

[Cherie]

I just wish I'd a grand for the 'disabled' people I know of - badges et al - who play footie every week and hit the dance floor every Saturday night.

(Kirk the Ukipper fascist being controversial again. :hehe:)

Really, along with the many families with 12 children, the immigrants and the tenants from hell i'm surprised you are not permanantly on the phone to the fraud hotline :fan:

[Cherie]

note im one of the few members who has NOT mocked this womans appearance....kudos to the truth me thinks

LT has that aspect covered on this thread :fan:

[lostalex]

the person is definitely a coward. if the person saw this woman parking (which she must have how else did she know the woman was fat and ugly?) then why didn't the person confront her on the spot?

[kirklancaster]

Really, along with the many families with 12 children, the immigrants and the tenants from hell i'm surprised you are not permanantly on the phone to the fraud hotline :fan:

I was waiting for just such a predictable response. I'm seriously beginning to think that certain Tibbies just DO NOT LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD or need to GET OUT MORE.

In any event I really DO NOT APPRECIATE it continually being implied that I am a liar just because I state TRUTHS on here which are OUTSIDE YOUR particular limited or sheltered experience.

I have owned a portfolio of 76 rented properties in my time - some of which I still retain - so I have had plenty of experience with rogue tenants.

I have had almost two decades of direct experience with all types and races of immigrants - good, bad and ugly.

I personally KNOW claimants with disgustingly large families who are in receipt of obscene amounts of benefits, and who could work if it were not for breeding babies like flies to different absentee fathers under a banal system which encourages them to do so because it rewards them far more than they could ever earn by working for a living and only breeding children which they can afford like the rest of us chumps.

I also personally KNOW MANY people who are in receipt of DISABILITY and MOBILITY BENEFITS who DO PLAY FOOTBALL, TRAIN AT THE GYM, AND DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY come weekends. I also know one guy who was awarded MOBILITY FOR LIFE, then THE DSS PAID FOR HIM TO TAKE A HEAVY GOODS VEHICLE DRIVING COURSE costing several thousands of pounds. He has, for a long time now been employed as a long distance lorry driver whilst also in receipt of full mobility allowance.

The rules HAVE since been changed but this guy is not the only one to enjoy this ludicrous arrangement.

I have NEVER reported anyone in my life apart from one particularly lying tenant who did a moonlight from a detached house I owned in Burnley owing me several thousands of pounds, but who - without my knowledge - continued to claim and receive housing benefits to the tune of several more thousand of pounds.

Even though I DID report this scumbag fraudster, the response from the Housing Benefit department was to 'rip the cheque up and bin it' with no thought for all the other payments he had ALREADY illegally received.

I do not like your attitude Cherie so I would appreciate it from now on if you ignore my posts as I will ignore yours - I am tired of being called a liar and having to defend my posts just because MY experiences are not YOURS.

Thank you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT has that aspect covered on this thread :fan:

:nono:


you need a special badge to drag me on tibb

[Cherie]

I was waiting for just such a predictable response. I'm seriously beginning to think that certain Tibbies just DO NOT LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD or need to GET OUT MORE.

In any event I really DO NOT APPRECIATE it continually being implied that I am a liar just because I state TRUTHS on here which are OUTSIDE YOUR particular limited or sheltered experience.

I have owned a portfolio of 76 rented properties in my time - some of which I still retain - so I have had plenty of experience with rogue tenants.

I have had almost two decades of direct experience with all types and races of immigrants - good, bad and ugly.

I personally KNOW claimants with disgustingly large families who are in receipt of obscene amounts of benefits, and who could work if it were not for breeding babies like flies to different absentee fathers under a banal system which encourages them to do so because it rewards them far more than they could ever earn by working for a living and only breeding children which they can afford like the rest of us chumps.

I also personally KNOW MANY people who are in receipt of DISABILITY and MOBILITY BENEFITS who DO PLAY FOOTBALL, TRAIN AT THE GYM, AND DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY come weekends. I also know one guy who was awarded MOBILITY FOR LIFE, then THE DSS PAID FOR HIM TO TAKE A HEAVY GOODS VEHICLE DRIVING COURSE costing several thousands of pounds. He has, for a long time now been employed as a long distance lorry driver whilst also in receipt of full mobility allowance.

The rules HAVE since been changed but this guy is not the only one to enjoy this ludicrous arrangement.

I have NEVER reported anyone in my life apart from one particularly lying tenant who did a moonlight from a detached house I owned in Burnley owing me several thousands of pounds, but who - without my knowledge - continued to claim and receive housing benefits to the tune of several more thousand of pounds.

Even though I DID report this scumbag fraudster, the response from the Housing Benefit department was to 'rip the cheque up and bin it' with no thought for all the other payments he had ALREADY illegally received.

I do not like your attitude Cherie so I would appreciate it from now on if you ignore my posts as I will ignore yours - I am tired of being called a liar and having to defend my posts just because MY experiences are not YOURS.

Thank you.


Jeez calm down you will do youself a mischief, what attitude is this Kirk? i hardly ever respond to your posts, in fact alot of the time you MOAN that nobody reads them, and then when people do you ask them to IGNORE you, make up your mind! If you can't take a bit of ribbing then that is more YOUR PROBLEM than mine :idc:

[Cherie]

:nono:


you need a special badge to drag me on tibb

Special being the operative word :fan:

[Tom4784]

I was waiting for just such a predictable response. I'm seriously beginning to think that certain Tibbies just DO NOT LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD or need to GET OUT MORE.

In any event I really DO NOT APPRECIATE it continually being implied that I am a liar just because I state TRUTHS on here which are OUTSIDE YOUR particular limited or sheltered experience.

I have owned a portfolio of 76 rented properties in my time - some of which I still retain - so I have had plenty of experience with rogue tenants.

I have had almost two decades of direct experience with all types and races of immigrants - good, bad and ugly.

I personally KNOW claimants with disgustingly large families who are in receipt of obscene amounts of benefits, and who could work if it were not for breeding babies like flies to different absentee fathers under a banal system which encourages them to do so because it rewards them far more than they could ever earn by working for a living and only breeding children which they can afford like the rest of us chumps.

I also personally KNOW MANY people who are in receipt of DISABILITY and MOBILITY BENEFITS who DO PLAY FOOTBALL, TRAIN AT THE GYM, AND DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY come weekends. I also know one guy who was awarded MOBILITY FOR LIFE, then THE DSS PAID FOR HIM TO TAKE A HEAVY GOODS VEHICLE DRIVING COURSE costing several thousands of pounds. He has, for a long time now been employed as a long distance lorry driver whilst also in receipt of full mobility allowance.

The rules HAVE since been changed but this guy is not the only one to enjoy this ludicrous arrangement.

I have NEVER reported anyone in my life apart from one particularly lying tenant who did a moonlight from a detached house I owned in Burnley owing me several thousands of pounds, but who - without my knowledge - continued to claim and receive housing benefits to the tune of several more thousand of pounds.

Even though I DID report this scumbag fraudster, the response from the Housing Benefit department was to 'rip the cheque up and bin it' with no thought for all the other payments he had ALREADY illegally received.

I do not like your attitude Cherie so I would appreciate it from now on if you ignore my posts as I will ignore yours - I am tired of being called a liar and having to defend my posts just because MY experiences are not YOURS.

Thank you.

She has a right to comment on your posts like you can on hers. Stop demanding that people ignore your posts because you can't handle being challenged, it's weak and it kills discussion.

[kirklancaster]

She has a right to comment on your posts like you can on hers. Stop demanding that people ignore your posts because you can't handle being challenged, it's weak and it kills discussion.

Discussion? That's a joke and no one asked for your opinion.

I have a right to post without being called a liar but i'm sure Cherie and me could have sorted it out without you butting in just because you have a personal axe to grind.

[Marsh.]

Discussion? That's a joke and no one asked for your opinion.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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:joker:

[Tom4784]

Discussion? That's a joke and no one asked for your opinion.

I have a right to post without being called a liar but i'm sure Cherie and me could have sorted it out without you butting in just because you have a personal axe to grind.

You didn't ask for my opinion but you got it anyway because that, Kirky, is what a forum is. Who are you to think you can repress someone else's thoughts or opinions?

You have a right to post and Cherie has a right to comment on what you post. I won't rise to your predictable and rather basic attempts at trying to make this personal when it isn't.

[kirklancaster]

Jeez calm down you will do youself a mischief, what attitude is this Kirk? i hardly ever respond to your posts, in fact alot of the time you MOAN that nobody reads them, and then when people do you ask them to IGNORE you, make up your mind! If you can't take a bit of ribbing then that is more YOUR PROBLEM than mine :idc:

I unreservedly apologise to you Cherie for my unwarranted reaction. I should have took your ribbing in good nature as I always do anyone's, but failed on this occasion.

I have always enjoyed a good relationship with you Cherie which I value, so please do not let this alter that.

xx Kirk.

[Cherie]

I unreservedly apologise to you Cherie for my unwarranted reaction. I should have took your ribbing in good nature as I always do anyone's, but failed on this occasion.

I have always enjoyed a good relationship with you Cherie which I value, so please do not let this alter that.

xx Kirk.

Thank you, I really didn't mean it as an insult :kiss:

[kirklancaster]

You didn't ask for my opinion but you got it anyway because that, Kirky, is what a forum is. Who are you to think you can repress someone else's thoughts or opinions?

You have a right to post and Cherie has a right to comment on what you post. I won't rise to your predictable and rather basic attempts at trying to make this personal when it isn't.

Remember your words when I impose my opinion upon you. OK.

And as for 'making it personal' - you have a long and practised history of cutting in angrily on various threads where I was not even engaged in any kind of conversation with you, to make highly personal and offensive remarks, so do me a favour and take your baloney elsewhere.

I have NEVER sought to 'repress' anyone else's 'thoughts and opinions' - that's the sole Modus Operandi of the Liberal Left, anti-UKIP, anti-Truth, anti-UK, anti-Democracy, anti-Christian, pro-Immigrant, pro-IS, pro-Benefit Scroungers faction on here; to shout the loudest in greater numbers and portray ANYONE not AGREEING with their skewed ideologies as 'Racist','xenophobic'or 'idiots' or 'Liars'.

I WELCOME GENUINE DEBATE so WHATEVER YOU want to debate with me - please FEEL FREE to begin.

[kirklancaster]

Thank you, I really didn't mean it as an insult :kiss:

I know that Cherie - Please forgive me. I am a genuine fun loving bloke with an easy going nature and a diverse sense of humour, but I rather think that I took it out on you for other's 'sins'.

I'm genuinely sorry.

[the truth]

why hasn't this woman been fined for her criminality

[kirklancaster]

why hasn't this woman been fined for her criminality

Who - Cherie? :joker:

(Just joking Truth.)