Labour Party New Leader September (union to pick)

[arista]

This should have all be ready
just in case.



They keep saying today they are going to learn what went wrong and take a long time?
Feck Me!
we had that in 2010
then after a long ,long time the Unions to put up Ed
who failed but at least resigned today

[Crimson Dynamo]

its going to be a long drawn out process

[Kizzy]

I say Rachael Reeves.

[Denver]

Chuka Umunna please

[bots]

Yes, labour should already have picked a new leader, what's taking all this time :fist:

[MB.]

Yes, because UKIP aren't waiting until September or anything. :suspect:

[MTVN]

No hurry

[arista]

I say Rachael Reeves.


Yes you have met her.


I though you would go for Tougher
Ed Balls Wife

[arista]

No hurry


I am not saying rush it.
This topic was brought up on the news

But you must admit Labour take to long

[arista]

Yes, labour should already have picked a new leader, what's taking all this time :fist:


There is a Union Block Vote
that slows it all down.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, because UKIP aren't waiting until September or anything. :suspect:

ukip have one seat

[Crimson Dynamo]

The reality is there is no one and no one on the horizon

[joeysteele]

No party in my view should have a leader in waiting, Harriett Harman can do fine until such time as the election process is done.
People need to hear what the candidates visions are for the party and have time to decide and more to the point quiz them heavily too.

Amazed to see arista say Labour should have a leader ready to take over,the last one they did that with was Gordon Brown and you condemned that transfer of leadership massively.

Rachel Reeves would be a really good choice,I agree with Kizzy on that one, I like Chukka too, Andy Burnham is also a contender I would have thought,he can relate to voters and the party as a whole.
However, I want to see who throws their hat into the ring this time, and really the party needs to consider very carefully the choices.

This is perhaps one of the most important decisions for Labour to make now,they sadly got it wrong last time, this time it has to be as near totally right as possible.
Someone who can relate to and reach out to Scotland is vital and also Wales, the Conservatives had a rather good night there last night.

[AnnieK]

I think it will be Andy Burnham.

[Crimson Dynamo]

david miliband

[joeysteele]

I think it will be Andy Burnham.

I like Andy, he is really genuine.

He was a good way behind last time however coming 4th but then he was up against the Miliband Brothers.

By the way AnnieK,thank you very much for your kind words on that other thread,it was really nice of you to say it.

[Livia]

david miliband

I think he's doing rather well for himself. Perhaps Ed could ask him for a job!

[bots]

Speaking seriously now, labour should go for someone with a good presence who can communicate flawlessly. Its going to be all new next time around, so experience etc will be irrelevant.

I think all the names mentioned have history, and that's never a good thing. Start with a clean slate, and focus on policies that engage a larger cross section of the electorate and labour will be in a much better position to engage in a federal UK. They will of course need someone for Scotland too - good luck with that :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

I think Labour need to take sometime to give themselves a revamp, like the Tories did when Cameron took over.

[AnnieK]

I like Andy, he is really genuine.

He was a good way behind last time however coming 4th but then he was up against the Miliband Brothers.

By the way AnnieK,thank you very much for your kind words on that other thread,it was really nice of you to say it.

You're more than welcome Joey....absolutely meant every word. :love:

[user104658]

Speaking seriously now, labour should go for someone with a good presence who can communicate flawlessly. Its going to be all new next time around, so experience etc will be irrelevant.

I think all the names mentioned have history, and that's never a good thing. Start with a clean slate, and focus on policies that engage a larger cross section of the electorate and labour will be in a much better position to engage in a federal UK. They will of course need someone for Scotland too - good luck with that [emoji23]
Agreed; prospects are about showmanship and media presence these days and little to do with policy. I actually fully believe that a confident, charming and physically attractive labour leader would have walked this election.

[empire]

Labour alienated the working class vote, in turn some of them working class voters voted for other parties, they had a meeting in a place where there was gender separation, and they supported it, that just shows who there friends are.

[waterhog]

i can not see anyone that stands out apart from balls -

[kirklancaster]

Speaking seriously now, labour should go for someone with a good presence who can communicate flawlessly. Its going to be all new next time around, so experience etc will be irrelevant.

I think all the names mentioned have history, and that's never a good thing. Start with a clean slate, and focus on policies that engage a larger cross section of the electorate and labour will be in a much better position to engage in a federal UK. They will of course need someone for Scotland too - good luck with that :laugh:

I agree - they should recruit Farage. :laugh:

[Livia]

They should ask Brown back. He had a better result than Miliband did.

[letmein]

Now arista is left-wing. :joker:

[reece(:]

I agree with Chukka as a good potential.

[MTVN]

They need to embrace a Blue Labour outlook and the best of Blair, Chuka is the man for that. Burnham would carry them too far left.

[Northern Monkey]

Andy Burnham or Chukka would both be excellent choices imo.

[arista]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/02337/01_10233403_5ce0b2_2337690a.jpg
Mr C. Umunna MP with girlfriend Alice Sullivan

bloodbath begins

Union-Labour Vs Blairites

[empire]

even if labour won the election, their is no way that they would go back to the days of over spending, and they would have done the same cuts as the tory's, this is what people won't admit to,

[joeysteele]

even if labour won the election, their is no way that they would go back to the days of over spending, and they would have done the same cuts as the tory's, this is what people won't admit to,

No they wouldn't, they never would have even looked at disability benefits or carers allowances.
They were going to avoid welfare cuts by removing winter fuel payments and cold weather payments from the wealthier pensioners.

Their cuts programme was no way the same as the Conservatives,as the IFS pointed out too, their proposals involved far less cuts overall because they were aiming to bring down the deficit slower.

Whatever welfare cuts are made by this govt; as to the sick, disabled and unemployed,none at all would have been done by Labour,'none'.

[Daniel-X]

It's going to be Andy Burnham so they might as well get it over and done with!

[reece(:]

Is Harriet Harmon stepping down?

[joeysteele]

Is Harriet Harmon stepping down?

She is running things now but once the election process is set up she is standing down as Deputy Leader I believe,
So 2 new people take over the top 2 positions.

[joeysteele]

It's going to be Andy Burnham so they might as well get it over and done with!

I really like Andy Burnham but I don't think they will, he only got 4th last time and really I think they will go for someone who had little or no connection as MPs as to the previous Labour govt:

[MTVN]

I really like Andy Burnham but I don't think they will, he only got 4th last time and really I think they will go for someone who had little or no connection as MPs as to the previous Labour govt:

He's the only one left standing of the people who finished ahead of him though. You might be right though that they'll go for someone 'untainted' so to speak by anything that has happened before, although it could also work in his favour if he and Yvette Cooper are the only ones standing with a lot of experience, and his left-wing credentials could get him the Union vote.

I was surprised Dan Jarvis ruled himself out so quickly, he could have been a real contender

[empire]

If ed mil, was pm today, he will still cut public spending by half, becasuse britain is borrowing far to much, and that means paying back a large amount of it, if we don't stop borrowing we will be another greece, ed mil knows this and could not lie about it if he was made pm today, labour party where already planning cuts in other things, if they got into power today,people think labour will go back to over public spending, no, they can't, when we are borrowing to much, the labour party would have to balance the book on public spending to avoid a bankrupt state.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure anyone cares. Cant see a lab government for at least 15 years now...

[Mystic Mock]

They need to embrace a Blue Labour outlook and the best of Blair, Chuka is the man for that. Burnham would carry them too far left.

Agreed, it stops the Media from rigging it against them then.

[joeysteele]

He's the only one left standing of the people who finished ahead of him though. You might be right though that they'll go for someone 'untainted' so to speak by anything that has happened before, although it could also work in his favour if he and Yvette Cooper are the only ones standing with a lot of experience, and his left-wing credentials could get him the Union vote.

I was surprised Dan Jarvis ruled himself out so quickly, he could have been a real contender

Dan Jarvis wife died of cancer a few years ago, he is married again but has young children, he,I guess felt their need was greater than anything else at this time.

Full and absolute credit to him for that.

I now agree with your post naming Chuka Ummunah,I see him as one that can turn things around in 5 years.
He has a good vision and business seems to like him too.

[bots]

Not wishing to throw a damper, but Chuka needs to watch how he comes across, he has the same look that Blair had, sort of smug and untrustworthy. Didn't do Blair any harm of course, but people get wise to it.

[arista]

Labours going to say who is up
in full by the 15th june

The the Result on 12 September


http://news.sky.com/story/1483384/new-labour-leader-to-be-named-in-september

[Pete.]

It's actually start supporting them again if they vote in Chukka

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's actually start supporting them again if they vote in Chukka

it wont happen he would tank in the North and Scotland

he is a metrosexual and they need a tony ben

[joeysteele]

I am really glad it will not be until before the conference in September.

Very careful scrutiny needs to be done and the absolute right choice made.
Chuka Ummunah would be amazing, now Rachel Reeves has ruled herself out, he would be my choice.

He, I feel,could connect with most areas of England,he could really capture a good bit of support in the East and West Midlands too which is vital to do.

He could even begin to address the big problem as to Scotland too,the parties once cast aside in Scotland have a struggle to come back, the Conservatives never have after Margaret Thatcher's time.
Then again she knew the uncertain outcomes and dangers of holding referendums.
Being dead against ever holding them herself.
I believe Labour can come back there over time.

[arista]

I am really glad it will not be until before the conference in September.

Very careful scrutiny needs to be done and the absolute right choice made.
Chuka Ummunah would be amazing, now Rachel Reeves has ruled herself out, he would be my choice.

He, I feel,could connect with most areas of England,he could really capture a good bit of support in the East and West Midlands too which is vital to do.

He could even begin to address the big problem as to Scotland too,the parties once cast aside in Scotland have a struggle to come back, the Conservatives never have after Margaret Thatcher's time.
Then again she knew the uncertain outcomes and dangers of holding referendums.
Being dead against ever holding them herself.
I believe Labour can come back there over time.


Kizzy will have to back
a Labour Tory Lite
now

[joeysteele]

Kizzy will have to back
a Labour Tory Lite
now

So will I,not a tory lite at all but a Labour leader who will have a proper conscience and compassion with policies of justice and fairness.
Like Kizzy I would have loved Rachel to stand however.

[Crimson Dynamo]

since 1983 the only labour leader who has won an election is Tony Blair (I think)

now what does that say?

[bots]

since 1983 the only labour leader who has won an election is Tony Blair (I think)

now what does that say?

That he won 3 times? :laugh:

[arista]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/02337/01_10233403_5ce0b2_2337690a.jpg
Mr C. Umunna MP with girlfriend Alice Sullivan

bloodbath begins

Union-Labour Vs Blairites


No Bloodbath for him
He is out of the Contest

http://news.sky.com/story/1484585/chuka-umunna-drops-labour-leadership-bid

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh dear a leadership crisis already?

:hehe:

[arista]

On SkyNewsHD the union Boss did
Not back Chuka
so he had to go

http://news.sky.com/story/1485048/labour-hopefuls-to-make-leadership-pitches

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/16/392867/default/v1/labour-composite-1-762x428.jpg

[After Chuka Umunna's withdrawal
from the Labour leadership race,
the remaining candidates will
speak at a conference later.]


Once again the Dumb Union will pick the Next Leader
or Labour with Die

[arista]

I say Rachael Reeves.


No the Unions removed her

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/15/392847/default/v1/the-times-16-05-15-pg-1-1-720x960.jpg

[MTVN]

I would like to see Liz Kendall now but can only see it being Burnham

[joeysteele]

No the Unions removed her

What utter rubbish, Rachel is due to give birth to a new baby in June, that is one of the reasons she didn't put her name forward.
It would have been time consuming enough coping with a govt; department let alone the campaigning and endless attention and speeches she would have to give running for leader.

Miliband changed the Union rules on voting for the leader now too so that there is no block vote now in election of the Labour leader,
Your hate of Labour is badly clouding your judgement.

Rachel would have been a great leader in my view, however I can fully understand her putting her family first, especially as to a new baby too.
Being a govt; Minister, had Labour won, would have been far easier to cope with with a team behind her, than running for leader then becoming leader.

You were actually aware Rachel was heavily pregnant weren't you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Asked about the candidate who might win, Conservative Chancellor George Osborne said: "The Labour leadership contest has descended into farce.

"But it's not actually about personalities. I don't think the Labour Party any more represents the working people of this country who aspire to a better life."

:clap1:


George nailing it


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32761561

[arista]

What utter rubbish, Rachel is due to give birth to a new baby in June, that is one of the reasons she didn't put her name forward.
It would have been time consuming enough coping with a govt; department let alone the campaigning and endless attention and speeches she would have to give running for leader.

Miliband changed the Union rules on voting for the leader now too so that there is no block vote now in election of the Labour leader,
Your hate of Labour is badly clouding your judgement.

Rachel would have been a great leader in my view, however I can fully understand her putting her family first, especially as to a new baby too.
Being a govt; Minister, had Labour won, would have been far easier to cope with with a team behind her, than running for leader then becoming leader.

You were actually aware Rachel was heavily pregnant weren't you.


Yes they did
But the Unions are still in charge of picking the next leader
they invest in Labour

Deal With that.

[arista]

Asked about the candidate who might win, Conservative Chancellor George Osborne said: "The Labour leadership contest has descended into farce.

"But it's not actually about personalities. I don't think the Labour Party any more represents the working people of this country who aspire to a better life."

:clap1:


George nailing it


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32761561


Very true

[arista]

I would like to see Liz Kendall now but can only see it being Burnham


Yes the Unions Pick Burnham

[joeysteele]

Yes they did
But the Unions are still in charge of picking the next leader
they invest in Labour

Deal With that.

No they didn't,I disagree completely.
Also the Unions should have a say who is leader, there would never have been a Labour party without the trade unions.

They only have a say, they don't now control who is, and even so, while it is true they helped Ed Miliband win last time with the block vote, he gave the Unions very little of what they hoped for anyway.

Of course they invest in Labour,just as really big business invests in the Conservative party too.
Would you actually rather parties were funded by the taxpayer, because that is the only real alternative as to how things are now.

When big business is stopped from donating to the Conservative party, then it would be fair to criticise the Unions for doing so as to Labour too.

[joeysteele]

Yes the Unions Pick Burnham

Well, they didn't last time he came 4th out of 5 candidates.Just ahead of Diane Abbott who oddly enough the Unions didn't support either.

[arista]

Well, they didn't last time he came 4th out of 5 candidates.Just ahead of Diane Abbott who oddly enough the Unions didn't support either.


Well they have to pick one of that weak punch


They are live on the news now

[joeysteele]

Well they have to pick one of that weak punch


They are live on the news now

Just your biased view they are a weak bunch.

I don't see it that way, Yvette Cooper has skills that would.I believe, carry her to success.
Liz Kendall, is the likely dark horse but she can be really formidable,not to be underestimated.
Andy Burnham, is a dedicated politician and wrongly thought to be far left when he isn't, he could surprise if he were leader.

Mary Creagh has a calm matter of fact, attitude about her who could also bring some very new thinking,(relevant to most of the electorate),to the Labour party as leader.

If Tristram Hunt throws his hat into the ring,then he could really light things up,he has a good way of getting things across.

Not a weak bunch at all, that is just your prejudiced view against them,just as a fair bit of my view is towards them

[arista]

No Joey
I just look back your wasted long 5 Years
of backing Pathetic Labour

[joeysteele]

No Joey
I just look back your wasted long 5 Years
of backing Pathetic Labour

No need to,thank you,I would rather spend years supporting what I believed to be right than to support any cowards and those who are heartless having power to use against the weakest in society.

At least I can say when the devastation hits people it shouldn't, that it had nothing at all to do with me.
I will never see that support for the last 3 years, not 5,you are wrong again, as wasted.
Just as likely those who supported the Conservatives during the 13 years Labour were in power, would not see that as wasted support either.

Unless the Conservative party get a leader like John Major, William Hague, Edward Heath,or the other just leaders from the 50s, then I can safely say I am unlikely to ever back the Conservatives again.
Most certainly not too,if any of, Boris Johnson, Theresa May,( god forbid), or George Osborne take over from David Cameron.

[Kizzy]

I look back at your blind faith Arista and wonder sometimes too :laugh: We are all entitled to our views aren't we?
Nobody could hand on heart say they are better off under the conservatives unless they previously were well off that's the difference.

[arista]

I look back at your blind faith Arista and wonder sometimes too :laugh: We are all entitled to our views aren't we?
Nobody could hand on heart say they are better off under the conservatives unless they previously were well off that's the difference.

Of course you are Kizzy
but a proper leader is needed
not Burnham.

No everyone who voted Conservative
is well off
many are Hard Workers
but new that Labour was Anti Business
in its fashion.

[Kizzy]

Of course you are Kizzy
but a proper leader is needed
not Burnham.

No everyone who voted Conservative
is well off
many are Hard Workers
but new that Labour was Anti Business
in its fashion.

I hope whoever they pick the only centrism they advocate it that of the Labour party in it's original vision.

That's not true, where is it written that Labour is anti business?
They were very pro small business and very anti the exploitation by big business there' a difference.

[arista]

I hope whoever they pick the only centrism they advocate it that of the Labour party in it's original vision.

That's not true, where is it written that Labour is anti business?
They were very pro small business and very anti the exploitation by big business there' a difference.

It was using Profit as wrong, massive error
nothing to do with good old workers rights

[Kizzy]

It was using Profit as wrong, massive error
nothing to do with good old workers rights

Where did it do that? Of course profit isn't error yet when profit is placed over safety and or workers rights then it becomes an exploitative error for me.
Our energy companies are a great example of this, they are huge multi million pound corporations which exploit their service users by not passing the reductions in oil prices down to the customers, it is right that a government holds this practice to account not turn a blind eye while many freeze.

Business is good, cartels are bad.

[arista]

So many were interviewed on BBC NewsHD , SkyNewsHD
Ch4HD News , Ch5HDNews and ITV1HD News

Saying the Labour failed small business
and were anti profit

You must have seen this
the last year

[arista]

6_BxEXGgnqc


Kizzy because you block so much good news reports
I even copy Live News
this from march this year
I posted on another thread


Conservative are Positive

[joeysteele]

Rachel Reeves who is by far one the brightest and rising starts of Labour, who I wish had been able to run for leader,has endorsed Andy Burnham as her choice.

I like Andy,he is one of my political heroes,I'd like to see that.

Lord help him however as he will have the SUN against him all ways he turns, in the main because of after their horrendous slanderous lies about the real victims of Hillsborough, he tirelessly went on and on and helped that cause to get the real truth, until a proper inquiry was launched and put in place.
proving the Sun's take on it as pure lies and misrepresentative journalism that really,in my view, should have been illegal too.

He knows his stuff however and could be the face coupled with practical experience Labour needs now.

[Kizzy]

6_BxEXGgnqc


Kizzy because you block so much good news reports
I even copy Live News
this from march this year
I posted on another thread


Conservative are Positive

I don't block anything!

Ask my daughter how she feels about her student debt... However, even though she's extremely intelligent and eloquent don't expect many words of more than one syllable.

[joeysteele]

I don't block anything!

Ask my daughter how she feels about her student debt... However, even though she's extremely intelligent and eloquent don't expect many words of more than one syllable.

I know loads of students furious at the debts they have around their necks Kizzy, debts that are taken into account too when they go for a mortgage.

[arista]

"against him all ways he turns,"


Yes All Legal though Joey
you have your lil' mirror
yapping at our feet

[arista]

I don't block anything!

Ask my daughter how she feels about her student debt... However, even though she's extremely intelligent and eloquent don't expect many words of more than one syllable.


OK but that Live Video (Ch4HDNews)
I posted was the truth.



I am sure student debt is normal
with all students
I wish your Daughter well.

[Kizzy]

OK but that Live Video (Ch4HDNews)
I posted was the truth.



I am sure student debt is normal
with all students
I wish your Daughter well.

I'm sure it was but it was one opinion at the tory conference wasn't it? it's just not representative.

Thankyou.

[arista]

I'm sure it was but it was one opinion at the tory conference wasn't it? it's just not representative.

Thankyou.


No it was in Plymouth
not at the conference.


Ch4HDNews is one of the best
just because you do not agree
with those talking
does not change what went
down at the fantastic Election


I am positive

[Kizzy]

No it was in Plymouth
not at the conference.


Ch4HDNews is one of the best
just because you do not agree
with those talking
does not change what went
down at the fantastic Election


I am positive

I never said anything against c4 news :/

No I don't agree with that one person questioned, and the outcome of the election wasn't in my opinion that fantastic, either time will tell I guess whether it was positive for the UK as a whole... I'll try to be as positive, no promises.

[arista]

I never said anything against c4 news :/

No I don't agree with that one person questioned, and the outcome of the election wasn't in my opinion that fantastic, either time will tell I guess whether it was positive for the UK as a whole... I'll try to be as positive, no promises.


Thank You
Respect to you and your family

[joeysteele]

"against him all ways he turns,"


Yes All Legal though Joey
you have your lil' mirror
yapping at our feet

No, no way was that SUN headline that called the Liverpool fans legal, any ordinary person publicly stating that would have been likely hauled through the courts.

It was a disgraceful front page and they had the audacity to headline it with 'the truth'.
Once it was established that was totally wrong and the evidence was there as to same, that paper should have been chucked out of existence.
It brought, by its slanderous and lying comments, massive distress to the family and friends of those who died who were being branded so disgracefully by the Sun.

All it did at that time was beyond defending, its staff should have been made to apologise on their hands and knees and Kelvin Mckenzie should have been prosecuted for it too.

Oh and by the way, I dislike the Mirror equally too, so you are wrong again.

This is why I applaud Andy Burnham's insistence in helping not to let this issue drop.

[arista]

"Oh and by the way, I dislike the Mirror equally too, so you are wrong again."

Well thats good to hear.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/17/393158/default/v2/times-1-720x960.jpg

Yes Ed changed the voting
but the Unions do not care
as their members want a Left Wing Loser

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/17/393149/default/v2/tele-1-720x960.jpg
And Old Len giving strong advice to a future Scottish Labour

[joeysteele]

...and labour are taking no notice, he hasn't the block vote to use this time,so the media can do all it likes to stir up a story here but there is none.
He and his Union get the same way to vote as anyone else in this leadership election,he does not call the shots in any way whatsoever.

Were he to decide to take funding away from Labour, that is up to him and his Union members over the whole of the UK.He will get not a thing he hopes for from any other party so let them go I say.
The whole of the UK is what will matter to the next Labour leader and this man and his Union, can have a voice as to the direction Labour will go but the days of any dictation are now long gone,and Len mcCluskey knows that too.

He fought to get Ed Miliband elected, and got nothing for it, he even got the power of his Unions as to voting for Labour leaders in the future completely eroded by Ed Miliband's changes to the procedure.

Let the Unite union vote in July to end its links with Labour, great, then only Labour members from the Union will get a vote as to the leader in September and he and the union will get no input at all then really.
Call the stupid man's bluff Labour, and don't let the media invent a story that isn't even there with any basis.

[kirklancaster]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/15/392847/default/v1/the-times-16-05-15-pg-1-1-720x960.jpg

Even The Queen's delighted that Bollock Chuka Obamamunna has departed. She's laughing her old 'ass off.

[arista]

"Call the stupid man's bluff Labour, and don't let the media invent a story that isn't even there with any basis. "

Yes lets see what happens.


I would like Len
Live on Ch4HD News tonight
lets have some balance , joey

[the truth]

got to be someone new, no one from new labour

[joeysteele]

"Call the stupid man's bluff Labour, and don't let the media invent a story that isn't even there with any basis. "

Yes lets see what happens.


I would like Len
Live on Ch4HD News tonight
lets have some balance , joey

I'd like to see him on any news, Channel 4 news is not any better than any others in my view.

I stand by my comments because when most of the Labour party and those who support it,want to see sense and all coming together,it doesn't help to start this we may look at doing this, or doing that, like he is.

He knows the power he had in the last leadership election is gone and so the mouth is made to go at a time when really he would be wiser to keep it shut for a while.

I am reminded of that expression, it is better for someone to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open their mouth and remove all doubt.
I'd like to see and hear him too and there are things I'd like to say to him were I ever to see him too.

In any event, I think it is time both the Unions and Labour assessed the connections again between them,my own guess would be that the Union members themselves will not want to sever links,not even his union.

[Kizzy]

'The New Statesman has published the text of an open letter Liz Kendall, the Labour leadership contender, has written to trade unionists. Here’s an excerpt.

Trade unions helped found the Labour Party, and if I am elected as leader that link will never be broken. On the contrary, I want to strengthen your relationship with the Labour Party so I will not tolerate those inside or outside our movement who want to put that relationship at risk.'

I'm backing Liz.

[smudgie]

I'd like to see him on any news, Channel 4 news is not any better than any others in my view.

I stand by my comments because when most of the Labour party and those who support it,want to see sense and all coming together,it doesn't help to start this we may look at doing this, or doing that, like he is.

He knows the power he had in the last leadership election is gone and so the mouth is made to go at a time when really he would be wiser to keep it shut for a while.

I am reminded of that expression, it is better for someone to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open their mouth and remove all doubt.
I'd like to see and hear him too and there are things I'd like to say to him were I ever to see him too.

In any event, I think it is time both the Unions and Labour assessed the connections again between them,my own guess would be that the Union members themselves will not want to sever links,not even his union.

He was on the BBC news yesterday Joey, not sure how you find the video of it though.

[arista]

Yes it was much to brief
so not good enough to report.

A Proper Interview in the Studio is needed

[joeysteele]

He was on the BBC news yesterday Joey, not sure how you find the video of it though.

To be fair to him all the media want and are looking for,as with any party, is something they can take to help either create or give the impression there are great rifts,even when there are none.

I know he has said he doesn't see the Union severing the links and he also indicates he doesn't want that,the media will never strongly put that point however.
I personally think there does need to be a new relationship with the Unions,however the days where they really controlled events are long gone.

So I will wait and see how things go in July,when we are likely able to see and hear right off, how things are said and by whom.
Rather than the taking of things out of context and then adding things that were not even relevant,as the media so loves to do.

[MTVN]

Tristram Hunt not standing but expected to endorse Liz Kendall :clap1:

[jennyjuniper]

Anyone who is NOT in the IFE's pocket.

[Ross.]

Tristram Hunt not standing but expected to endorse Liz Kendall :clap1:

From what I've seen of him on tv I thought he came across really well so I would've backed him, but if not him then Liz Kendall is the one who should become leader for me. :clap1:

[joeysteele]

I'd be happy with Liz Kendall too, she has a good vision for the party and was one of the first to pick up on some things that went wrong.

My only thing is, talking to some voters, she comes across when she talks as condescending,that worked for a certain other lady leader however, so that was just a small gripe really.

[arista]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/20/tristram-hunt-withdraws-labour-party-leadership-race-liz-kendall

Bad Name "Tristram hunt" has not joined the race for leader
which is good as he is like Tory lite

[joeysteele]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/20/tristram-hunt-withdraws-labour-party-leadership-race-liz-kendall

Bad Name "Tristram hunt" has not joined the race for leader
which is good as he is like Tory lite

Bad name, what on earth does that mean.

He had a good vision too although I felt he was not going to run.
Those who wish to stand for the leadership have to know they are likely going to be backed by at least 35 Labour MPs each to do so.

He may well be tory lite, another poor media description of someone in politics in my view.
One of his cousins is Virginia Bottomley, a former Conservative,(and a real one nation), Conservative.

Actually I had to smile and agree with David Cameron yesterday on his humerous dig when saying Labour elects a man, then Harriett Harman has to step in when they mess things up,sorts it out, then they elect another man.
Why don't they just give her the job.

A real good question from him that.
Over 2 leaders she has been a really loyal deputy to them.

[arista]

"Bad name, what on earth does that mean."


His First Name blocked Working Class Voters

They are the ones that backed My David

[Kizzy]

And what did Ed block?... It has nothing to do with names.

Liz would be good then we could have PM Liz and queen Liz?

Liz and the lizards, sounds like a rock band :)

[joeysteele]

"Bad name, what on earth does that mean."


His First Name blocked Working Class Voters

They are the ones that backed My David

What on earth are you on about, his majority was good in his seat,also what on earth is wrong with the name Tristram.

They didn't really back 'your' David, he got a bare 0.8 increase in votes, he was only extremely fortunate that the Lib Dems crashed so badly otherwise he would still be sitting with no overall majority again.

He took 26 seats off the Lib Dems, had they held just over half of them, he would have been in near the same state he was last time.