Its like one big sick joke from the greedy selfish tory party

[billy123]

You couldnt make it up.

An equalities minister who voted against gay marriage.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10244471.ece/alternates/w620/caroline-dinenage.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/david-cameron-appoints-second-antigay-marriage-mp-caroline-dinenage-as-equalities-minister-10244478.html

A disability minister who voted against disability benefits.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10246053.ece/alternates/w620/tomlinson.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-new-disabilities-minister-voted-against-protecting-disabled-childrens-benefits-10246049.html

A Culture secretary that hates British culture.

http://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/fullnode_image/public/blogs_2015/05/472956132.jpg

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/bbc-safe-hands-our-new-culture-secretary-john-whittingdale


It almost feels like the only missing piece of the puzzle is waiting for Cameron to announce his new Minister for Children and youth affairs.

OH WAIT HERE HE IS.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/24/article-2221520-0018417C00000258-616_634x456.jpg


These scumbags make me feel sick. Oh England what have you done :bored:

[arista]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2942906/thumbs/o-ED-MILIBAND-STONE-570.jpg
'A 12-foot, granite, marble, cock-up'

[Crimson Dynamo]

only 5 labour mps who voted against austerity

a leader who could not win after austerity

not one leader candidate who will have a chance in the next election

lost around 3 million votes to ukip


lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

and you get the post election daily award i am announcing today...see below


http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sour-grapes-make-the-best-whine.jpg

[user104658]

How long do we have to wait after the election before any complaints about the abysmal government are not dismissed as "sour grapes"?

[Jack_]

How long do we have to wait after the election before any complaints about the abysmal government are not dismissed as "sour grapes"?

Probably when they're happy that their vote has led to enough people dying at the hands of ideological disability benefit cuts, enough people committing suicide due to increasing job insecurity and very little quality of life and enough people saddled with depression due to the misery they're going to endure

[Crimson Dynamo]

How long do we have to wait after the election before any complaints about the abysmal government are not dismissed as "sour grapes"?

i reckon 3 weeks or so?

then it will just be the easy job of highlighting problems but offering no solutions

:thumbs:

[joeysteele]

Probably when they're happy that their vote has led to enough people dying at the hands of ideological disability benefit cuts, enough people committing suicide due to increasing job insecurity and very little quality of life and enough people saddled with depression due to the misery they're going to endure

That is a likely fact too Jack_, a very sad and devastating one indeed to be waiting to happen.

[MTVN]

Dinenage has said she is now in support of gay marriage. Trying to make out the Conservatives have some agenda against equal marriage doesn't work very well when they were the ones who introduced it.

[user104658]

i reckon 3 weeks or so?

then it will just be the easy job of highlighting problems but offering no solutions

:thumbs:
As opposed to cutting services for the most vulnerable that save a whopping £3.25 of the deficit.

It's not even a massive hyperbole. They make cuts that ruin thousands of lives but save a couple of million a year and have absolutely zero impact on the deficit. They implement punishing hoops for the worst off in society to jump through that actually cost MORE to implement that they save. These are not solutions. These are ideologies with precisely one purpose: to keep "common people" down where they belong.

[Kizzy]

I'm just waiting for something that affects the tory massive as well as the rest of the country, it'll be interesting to see how they cope with the advice to simply suck it up.

[user104658]

Oh and they then use the figures to dazzle a general public who don't understand money on a grand scale. "Cuts made saving British tax payers £15 million per year!!" the headlines scream. "Oh derp derp look at dem zeroes dat is a lot of money derp!" says Bobby tax payer.

Absolutely no understanding that in terms of government budgets and the deficit, £15million per year is for all intents and purposes, so close to zero that it's completely insignificant.

[bots]

Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish

[Crimson Dynamo]

Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish

:clap1:

indeed

[Kizzy]

Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish

Excuse me? Are you suggesting that anyone who disagrees with the status quo should just be thankful they don't live in a developing country?
That is a truly bizarre statement, we have a perfectly decent and prosperous country right here.... If some don't agree with regressive policies it's to be expected there will be opposition to them.
The people who ultimately look foolish are those who allow any govt to ride roughshod over rights.

[Kazanne]

Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish

:clap1:

[user104658]

Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish
"don't complain there are people starving in Africa."

It's not a new argument but it's as weak and lame as it ever was. Mostly comes from people who are determined to support the establishment but can't actually find anything good to say.

"Why are you whining? We could be living in a nuclear apocalypse, coughing blood and tending our weeping tumors! Be happy with your lot!"

It makes about as much sense as:

"You were raped, you say? Well ma'am, SOME people are born into satanic rape cults and are raped and tortured every day! Go home be happy that you were only raped once!"

[Kizzy]

What about these individuals.... Still happy?


'The new Conservative disabilities minister voted against protecting the benefits of disabled children and those undergoing cancer treatment.

But he did vote for the bedroom tax.'

Justin Tomlinson, MP for North Swindon, was promoted by David Cameron on Wednesday as part of the cabinet reshuffle.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/13/justin-tomlinson-disabled-child-benefits-cancer-patients-bedroom-tax_n_7272956.html

[joeysteele]

Dinenage has said she is now in support of gay marriage. Trying to make out the Conservatives have some agenda against equal marriage doesn't work very well when they were the ones who introduced it.

True,but with Lib Dem and Labour support too.
This was I do admit, one of David Cameron's better choices while in govt:

[arista]

OQFk8IBnDAM

[Livia]

Like most MPs I imagine Caroline Dineage voted in accordance with the wishes of her constituents. I don't see how that can now be used as a stick to beat her, any more than the Labour supporters would want us to remind them how few Labour MPs voted against austerity - like Trumpet said...

[Kizzy]

You can't compare austerity to equal rights.
I think the concept of equalities is lost here, what constitutes as equality is not what a selection of the electorate from one geographical area want is it... As a minister governing the UK it should be based on the UK as a whole surely?

[Scarlett.]

Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish

Strangely enough "some individuals" are always the lower class.

[joeysteele]

You can't compare austerity to equal rights.
I think the concept of equalities is lost here, what constitutes as equality is not what a selection of the electorate from one geographical area want is it... As a minister governing the UK it should be based on the UK as a whole surely?

One shouldn't, I agree with that.

[empire]

the tory party like labour, are a pro eu, party that want cheap labour from the east of Europe, and drive down the wages of the british workers, that's there wet dream, and the idiots who vote for them three parties, that want to stay in the E union.

[the truth]

the real culprits are the people able to work who milked benefits thus reducing the funds available to the really sick and disabled and the nhs.....new labour under their invented insane pc doctrine refused to draw a line between who deserved disability and sickness and who didnt....they got lost in the words managing diversity , which meant almost everyone claimed to be disabled one way or another. shame on new labour for perverting our language and our country. i hope the tories are true to their word and protect the real sick and disabled and the nhs cover ups are exposed. and i hope they get medievil on the workless benefit scroungers who breed for benefits and give their kids an horrific example of how to live

[Kizzy]

George Osborne will reveal how the government plans to cut £12bn from Britain’s welfare bill when he announces a fresh wave of austerity measures in his second budget in less than four months on 8 July. The chancellor said he wanted to make a start delivering on the commitments made in the Conservative party manifesto and pledged that his package would be a budget for “working people”.

Announcing his decision in an article in the Sun, Osborne said he would provide details of how the government plans to eliminate the UK’s budget deficit – forecast to be £75bn this year – and run a surplus by the end of the parliament. “On the 8th of July I am going to take the unusual step of having a second budget of the year – because I don’t want to wait to turn the promises we made in the election into a reality … And I can tell you it will be a budget for working people.”

Brace yourself for the real budget.....
Where else would the announcement come from than the sun? :/

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/16/george-osborne-july-budget-austerity-conservatives-deficit

[Kizzy]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/14/working-class-tories-are-not-just-turkeys-voting-for-christmas

[joeysteele]

I thought it totally ridiculous to present a budget in March with an election looming.
Now that budget is meaningless, so he should have waited until after the election anyway.

If he goes too far again, he could find problems,his welfare reform had no detail in the election, the plans to do it were there but no detail.

It may yet be that while some of the more decent Conservative MPs support more welfare reform, they can support the plan but not the detail.
I isn't impossible with his small majority not to hit some very difficult times getting legislation through.

I'm not holding my breath as to that but you never know in parliament.

[Kizzy]

It's not the MPs that are the issue it's the ministers, Gove and IDS, would MPs dare go against them?

[Kizzy]

Why hold this info untill now, if there was any concerns why not voice them before the election? :/

'Police will be forced to adopt a “paramilitary” style of enforcement if the government inflicts big budget cuts on them, the head of the police officers’ organisation has warned.

Steve White, chair of the Police Federation, said his 123,000 members, from police constables to inspectors, fear a move towards a more violent style of policing as they try to keep law and order with even fewer officers than now.'

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/17/police-warn-big-budget-cuts-will-lead-to-paramilitary-force

[joeysteele]

It's not the MPs that are the issue it's the ministers, Gove and IDS, would MPs dare go against them?

I doubt it myself but will wait and see, there are already rumblings against the coming out of the human rights act.

I am not expecting anything to cheer at from this other budget now in July.

I agree, the police issue should have been made known very vocally before and during the election campaign.
It says a great deal about the campaign that none of it was.

Sadly for the Police, the have the same total waste of space that is Theresa May still as Home secretary,how this totally incompetent woman has survived there the last 5 years is beyond me, never mind be left there now.

[Kizzy]

'Tory deputy chairman says party should consider changing name to become Workers party

Labour is debating how to rebuild as a party but, if an interview with Robert Halfon in the Sun is anything to go by, the Conservatives are quite serious about repositioning themselves too. Halfon is a long-standing advocate of what he describes as “blue collar Conservatism” and, in last week’s reshuffle, he was made Conservative deputy chairman. The interview suggests he is determined to shake things up.'


'He says he wants the Tories to attract more low-income candidates.
I’d like to see us have a special emphasis on getting candidates from low-income backgrounds - on £25,000 or £26,000 a year - and single-parent candidates.'

:joker: :joker:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/may/19/yvette-cooper-says-labour-sounded-anti-worker-for-people-in-big-firms-politics-live

[Kizzy]

How strange is it that Americans are now asking for union rights for unskilled workers just as we're getting rid of them?...


http://www.theguardian.com/business/video/2015/may/04/mcdonalds-fight-for-15-protest-video

[joeysteele]

'Tory deputy chairman says party should consider changing name to become Workers party

Labour is debating how to rebuild as a party but, if an interview with Robert Halfon in the Sun is anything to go by, the Conservatives are quite serious about repositioning themselves too. Halfon is a long-standing advocate of what he describes as “blue collar Conservatism” and, in last week’s reshuffle, he was made Conservative deputy chairman. The interview suggests he is determined to shake things up.'


'He says he wants the Tories to attract more low-income candidates.
I’d like to see us have a special emphasis on getting candidates from low-income backgrounds - on £25,000 or £26,000 a year - and single-parent candidates.'

:joker: :joker:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/may/19/yvette-cooper-says-labour-sounded-anti-worker-for-people-in-big-firms-politics-live

Actually if he holds on a bit longer, rather than workers party,'workhouse party' could be probably more appropriate.

[user104658]

'Tory deputy chairman says party should consider changing name to become Workers party

Labour is debating how to rebuild as a party but, if an interview with Robert Halfon in the Sun is anything to go by, the Conservatives are quite serious about repositioning themselves too. Halfon is a long-standing advocate of what he describes as “blue collar Conservatism” and, in last week’s reshuffle, he was made Conservative deputy chairman. The interview suggests he is determined to shake things up.'


'He says he wants the Tories to attract more low-income candidates.
I’d like to see us have a special emphasis on getting candidates from low-income backgrounds - on £25,000 or £26,000 a year - and single-parent candidates.'

:joker: :joker:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/may/19/yvette-cooper-says-labour-sounded-anti-worker-for-people-in-big-firms-politics-live
Does it not say it all that they consider £26k to be "low income"? So would they consider a family with two earning that - so £52k a year - to be a 'low income household"? They really have no idea, do they...

[Kizzy]

'Bank of England officials are secretly researching the financial shocks that could hit Britain if there is a vote to leave the European Union in the forthcoming referendum.

The Bank blew its cover on Friday when it accidentally emailed details of the project – including how the bank intended to fend off any inquiries about its work – direct to the Guardian.

According to the confidential email, the press and most staff in Threadneedle Street must be kept in the dark about the work underway, which has been dubbed Project Bookend.'

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/22/secret-bank-of-england-taskforce-investigates-financial-fallout-brexit

[empire]

both labour and the tories are greedy, a ukip councillor boycott a meal that costs the taxpayer each 2,700. and a labour councillor said that he is nothing but sour grapes, both parties are out of touch, with the people, and are there to line their pockets with your money, they are no differnet than the bankers.

[Kizzy]

Well that's a good point it's about who is slightly less corrupt it seems.

[Kizzy]

Can anyone decipher this?...

“One in three young people in Britain today are from working-class backgrounds. So too are 23% of undergraduates from the top third of universities and 11% from Oxbridge. But only 7% of applicants to the civil service fast stream are from working-class backgrounds, falling to just 3.5% of those who are given offers.”

Hancock said the civil service’s diversity record was “not good enough” and stressed that “the ladder to the top can be climbed by all”.

The new cabinet office minister said he wanted to see a civil service where there was a “freedom to fail”, where promotion and pay were tied to performance, and where there were “more porous borders” between it and the private sector.'

What exactly is meant by 'freedom to fail'? does in mean no accountability?
If you toe the party line we'll promote you (performance related pay) and tory donor shareholders in charge of any private investment....

[Kizzy]

Rupert Murdoch’s business empire is due to design, build and run the software for digital voting at the next election.
Rupert Murdoch’s British telecommunications company Sky UK Limited is apparently holding secret talks with the newly elected Conservative Party about plans to fully digitise the UK voting process in time for the 2020 General Election.Our source describes the discussions as “well advanced”.

Twelve million current SKY customers – around a fifth of the population – would automatically receive the “already finished” skyVOTE app downloaded to their phones, TVs, and other devices. Non-Sky customers would be encouraged to download the free app to allow them to vote – in what is described as “a cutting edge, state of the art voting system for a modern democracy”.

http://news.bfnn.co.uk/murdoch-to-be-in-charge-of-e-voting-from-2020/

[the truth]

Rupert Murdoch’s business empire is due to design, build and run the software for digital voting at the next election.
Rupert Murdoch’s British telecommunications company Sky UK Limited is apparently holding secret talks with the newly elected Conservative Party about plans to fully digitise the UK voting process in time for the 2020 General Election.Our source describes the discussions as “well advanced”.

Twelve million current SKY customers – around a fifth of the population – would automatically receive the “already finished” skyVOTE app downloaded to their phones, TVs, and other devices. Non-Sky customers would be encouraged to download the free app to allow them to vote – in what is described as “a cutting edge, state of the art voting system for a modern democracy”.

http://news.bfnn.co.uk/murdoch-to-be-in-charge-of-e-voting-from-2020/

at least sky are a legitimate free market company unlike the disgusting monopoly that is BT