Adjoa gave Toya realness last night

[Pete.]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/10/article-0-1EA29C0B00000578-257_636x469.jpg

[waterhog]

don't no what this pic says - but tuning in tonight for sure.

[billy123]

What does that mean in English?

[y.winter]

So much wrong with one picture.

[Jason.]

Tamara in a 69 with a Peperami.
Classy.

Toya on Twitter dislikes Adjoa.
Toya trying to stay relevant by slagging her off is petty. No wonder why she went in an eight-way vote in a VTE.

Adjoa >> Toya

[karl100589]

What's with the Toya love, she's pretty much got herself this martyr status on here on the back of one argument.

[Beetlejuice]

Both Toya and Adjoa are awful. One was an egomaniac of epic proportions and the other seems to be obsessed with "Pussaaaay!"

[Jake.]

The only 'realness' I saw between them was Adjoa's miserable face during Nick nominating her

[Jemal]

What realness was given??

[Jason.]

What's with the Toya love, she's pretty much got herself this martyr status on here on the back of one argument.

I like Toya, but the love she gets here is too much, TBH.
Queen Toya, this and Lord Toya. It's off-putting. Especially when people say she saved BB15.

People seem to overlook her nasty behaviour with Helen and Pauline, in Week 1 and 2, just because she turned against Helen, in her last few days. But that was too late, as she came across much nastier.

She couldn't even survive an eight-way eviction up against Ash and Danielle. Speaks volumes. TBH.

[Pete.]

I was only drawing a comparison between Adjoa on the task and Toya's similar expressions on her task

[Jason.]

I was only drawing a comparison between Adjoa on the task and Toya's similar expressions on her task

Were you laughing when Adjoa dropped the H off the board, without her realizing?

I know it isn't that funny, but that killed me. :joker:

[Pete.]

Were you laughing when Adjoa dropped the H off the board, without her realizing?

I know it isn't that funny, but that killed me. :joker:
She had me in stitches along with Jade tbh

[Jason.]

She had me in stitches along with Jade tbh

Oh yeah.
And Cristian's warm-up.

That task was priceless, TBH.
Even Danny being angry at how thick he was and blaming Big Brother. :joker:

[Cherie]

I really need to rewatch last night ep I didn't see any of this entertainment, the task was an embarrassment and insult to viewers

[Jason.]

I really need to rewatch last night ep I didn't see any of this entertainment, the task was an embarrassment and insult to viewers

It was a stupid task. But it provided some funny moments, IMO.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/10/article-0-1EA29C0B00000578-257_636x469.jpg

all i can see is a fox in a tartan bikini :shrug:

[Raph]

Toya, the only good thing about BB15

[Jason.]

Toya, the only good thing about BB15

Hence, why she didn't survive an eight-way eviction.

She was a recruit.
I don't get your opinion sometimes.

[Headie]

Hence, why she didn't survive an eight-way eviction.

She was a recruit.
I don't get your opinion sometimes.

Being a recruit doesn't automatically make you a bad housemate. They all still have to go through the audition process and are treated the same as everyone else :shrug:

And idk why you keep banging on about an "eight-way eviction". If anything that just increased her odds of going because it made it harder for her fans to counter-act the votes Toya was receiving (hence why Marlon got the 3rd most votes and Ash got 2nd... if only one of them were up with Toya she could've survived, had the vote not split)

[Jason.]

Being a recruit doesn't automatically make you a bad housemate. They all still have to go through the audition process and are treated the same as everyone else :shrug:

And idk why you keep banging on about an "eight-way eviction". If anything that just increased her odds of going because it made it harder for her fans to counter-act the votes Toya was receiving (hence why Marlon got the 3rd most votes and Ash got 2nd... if only one of them were up with Toya she could've survived, had the vote not split)

I never said it did.

It was aimed at Raph who hates all recruits, and yet goes against his beloved opinion by saying she's the best housemate of the series.

A bit hypocritical. It wasn't a dig at Toya as a housemate.

I do think she's overrated on here though. I like her, but all this Queen Toya malarkey is ridiculous. But, you like every single black female, regardless of how horrible some have been in the past.
For heavens sake, you even like Pauline. Give me a break.

[Pete.]

The fact is Toya should not have been up that week anyway

[Pete.]

I never said it did.

It was aimed at Raph who hates all recruits, and yet goes against his beloved opinion by saying she's the best housemate of the series.

A bit hypocritical. It wasn't a dig at Toya as a housemate.

I do think she's overrated on here though. I like her, but all this Queen Toya malarkey is ridiculous. But, you like every single black female, regardless of how horrible some have been in the past.
For heavens sake, you even like Pauline. Give me a break.
He didnt Stan Monet

[Jason.]

The fact is Toya should not have been up that week anyway

I agree. She was a victim of the terrible production of BB15.

But I still think she gets a lot of love on here, for only someone who was evicted in Week 3.
Even Ashleigh doesn't get that much love, and she's more memorable than Toya.

[Headie]

I never said it did.

It was aimed at Raph who hates all recruits, and yet goes against his beloved opinion by saying she's the best housemate of the series.

A bit hypocritical. It wasn't a dig at Toya as a housemate.

I do think she's overrated on here though. I like her, but all this Queen Toya malarkey is ridiculous. But, you like every single black female, regardless of how horrible some have been in the past.
For heavens sake, you even like Pauline. Give me a break.

Erm no I don't like every black female thanks very much, and I personally found Pauline entertaining.

Stick to discussing housemates, not forum members, thanks x

[Headie]

He didnt Stan Monet

Bye @ whiny ho Monet

[Locke.]

She'll be giving Toya realness when she gets evicted in week 3 against all her rivals as well

[Jason.]

Erm no I don't like every black female thanks very much, and I personally found Pauline entertaining.

Stick to discussing housemates, not forum members, thanks x

Yes you do. You literally praise every single black housemate that's entered the door. I mean there's been a few classic ones, but honestly, it's such a strange reason to like someone.
If Adjoa was white, she wouldn't be your favorite.

We are talking about housemates.

[Headie]

Marlon - 22 and works in Optics

Adjoa - 22 and an international model

Slay mama

[Headie]

Yes you do. You literally praise every single black housemate that's entered the door. I mean there's been a few classic ones, but honestly, it's such a strange reason to like someone.

We are talking about housemates.

You're not though... You're discussing me and calling me strange and bizarre etc.

If I like fierce housemates, then that's my taste. Whether they are black or not doesn't affect my opinion. It just so happens that BB always casts stereotypical black sassy girls, and I am entertained by sassy housemates...

Anyway this thread is not about me or any other members, so can we get back to discussing housemates please.

[Kizzy]

I didn't like Toya and I don't like Adjoa.

[aj2463]

Adjoa looked like she was about to cry and jump through a glass window.. Realness?

[Lostie!]

Marlon - 22 and works in Optics

Adjoa - 22 and an international model

Slay mama

And? :shrug:

[Jason.]

You're not though... You're discussing me and calling me strange and bizarre etc.

If I like fierce housemates, then that's my taste. Whether they are black or not doesn't affect my opinion. It just so happens that BB always casts stereotypical black sassy girls, and I am entertained by sassy housemates...

Anyway this thread is not about me or any other members, so can we get back to discussing housemates please.

Stop thinking it's always about you. There's no rule which states I'm not allowed to pull you up on your opinion, if I disagree with it or do not understand it.

It's not like the housemate were talking about are relevant to the current series anyway. I mean Toya's is so 2014.

I still think you like every black female, regardless. They're always automatically your favourite just after seeing them on the VT or seeing their housemate picture.

When was Pauline ever sassy?

If Adjoa was white, she wouldn't be your favourite. FACT.

[Jemal]

People on here are scared to say it but I dont give a **** tbh.
Most people just liked toya and adjoa because they are black and wear weave.
Also they tend to come across as sassy (i don't see it)

[Drew.]

People on here are scared to say it but I dont give a **** tbh.
Most people just liked toya and adjoa because they are black and wear weave.
Also they tend to come across as sassy (i don't see it)

You make a valid point there Jemal

[Glenn.]

People on here are scared to say it but I dont give a **** tbh.
Most people just liked toya and adjoa because they are black and wear weave.
Also they tend to come across as sassy (i don't see it)

Same. I don't get the love tbh. I have yet to see a 'sassy' housemate in big brother.

[Jamesy]

Toya was only really entertaining for a few days with the whole "Hurricane Toya" thing. Apart from that she didn't really do anything to be loved loads as an housemate.

[Pete.]

Yes you do. You literally praise every single black housemate that's entered the door. I mean there's been a few classic ones, but honestly, it's such a strange reason to like someone.
If Adjoa was white, she wouldn't be your favorite.

We are talking about housemates.
Sadly there are some people who automatically hate black females just for being black but that doesn't seem to be a problem

[Jason.]

People on here are scared to say it but I dont give a **** tbh.
Most people just liked toya and adjoa because they are black and wear weave.
Also they tend to come across as sassy (i don't see it)

I agree.

There has been some classic black housemates, like Makosi and Charley. But, Hayden pretty much loves every single black female. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it's a such a strange reason to like someone.

I like Adjoa because she's very nice and funny. I think she's one of the few black females who hasn't lived up to that silly stereotype, and seems quiet loveable.

[Jason.]

Sadly there are some people who automatically hate black females just for being black but that doesn't seem to be a problem

I never said that isn't a problem.
That's racism.

I don't think anyone should be loved or loathed because they are black. They should be loved if they're good housemates or hated if they're bad housemates.

[Lostie!]

Toya was only really entertaining for a few days with the whole "Hurricane Toya" thing. Apart from that she didn't really do anything to be loved loads as an housemate.

I agree tbh. I supported her during the Week 3 arguments and really wanted her to stay (Ash should have gone :fist:), but for the first two weeks she was a major disappointment.

Sure, she rose back up my rankings in her final week, but clearly it was too little too late for most people.

I never said that isn't a problem.
That's racism.

I don't think anyone should be loved or loathed because they are black. They should be loved if they're good housemates or hated if they're bad housemates.

:clap1:

[reece(:]

I don't think it's fair for some to be chastised for supporting black housemates whilst many others do it with other types e.g. laddy HMs, posh HMs etc.

[LukeB]

I never said it did.

It was aimed at Raph who hates all recruits, and yet goes against his beloved opinion by saying she's the best housemate of the series.

A bit hypocritical. It wasn't a dig at Toya as a housemate.

I do think she's overrated on here though. I like her, but all this Queen Toya malarkey is ridiculous. But, you like every single black female, regardless of how horrible some have been in the past.
For heavens sake, you even like Pauline. Give me a break.

Now that you mention Pauline.
She was a big size woman and she was loved as a housemate,
but Jack gets criticised for his apperance so that is what i'm confused about

[Jason.]

Now that you mention Pauline.
She was a big sized woman and she was loved as a housemate,
but Jack gets criticised for his apperance so that is what i'm confused about

Pauline wasn't popular because she was fat, TBH.

She was loved because she was seen as a jolly dancing fifty year old in her VT, who entered last in a house full of 23 year old ruthless fame-hungry models.

[Headie]

And? :shrug:

It was a Toya quote...

[Headie]

Stop thinking it's always about you. There's no rule which states I'm not allowed to pull you up on your opinion, if I disagree with it or do not understand it.

It's not like the housemate were talking about are relevant to the current series anyway. I mean Toya's is so 2014.

I still think you like every black female, regardless. They're always automatically your favourite just after seeing them on the VT or seeing their housemate picture.

When was Pauline ever sassy?

If Adjoa was white, she wouldn't be your favourite. FACT.


Big Brother always cast black girls who fall under the same stereotype. FACT. I happen to find that stereotype entertaining. FACT. Therefore it just so happens that most of my favourite housemates are black females. Aisleyne comes under that category except she's white and she's still one of my all-time favourites :shrug:
I agree.

There has been some classic black housemates, like Makosi and Charley. But, Hayden pretty much loves every single black female. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it's a such a strange reason to like someone.

I like Adjoa because she's very nice and funny. I think she's one of the few black females who hasn't lived up to that silly stereotype, and seems quiet loveable.
Seriously get back to discussing topics other than me. You are obsessed with discussing other members or something, just don't do it all together. It's not what we're on this forum for.

THIS ISN'T A THREAD ABOUT ME FFS. Why do you find that so hard to comprehend. If you want a discussion with me about me, then post on my wall or send me a message. Posting it in a thread about Adjoa being similar to Toya is just so unnecessary.

I don't think it's fair for some to be chastised for supporting black housemates whilst many others do it with other types e.g. laddy HMs, posh HMs etc.

Exactly. Jemal, Drew, Brother Leon etc always support the same 'lads' yet people seem to find it funny, but if me, Pete, you etc support black girls we are called strange... :shrug:

[Lostie!]

It was a Toya quote...

I'm well aware, a Toya quote you used to disparagingly compare Marlon to Adjoa because he only "works in Optics" and isn't a "model". My question remains, because I don't really get the snobbery towards a profession that isn't fame-related.

[Drew.]

Exactly. Jemal, Drew, Brother Leon etc always support the same 'lads' yet people seem to find it funny, but if me, Pete, you etc support black girls we are called strange... :shrug:

What are you going on about now. Please explain how the likes of Nick, Joel and Jack are in the category of being 'lads'

[LukeB]

What are you going on about now. Please explain how the likes of Nick, Joel and Jack are in the category of being 'lads'

don't forget Perez too
you could have supported Calum who is probs the lad of that series but you didn't

[Drew.]

don't forget Perez too
you could have supported Calum who is probs the lad of that series but you didn't

The list is endless, Dexter, Chris, Christopher, Aaron, Adam..

[Jemal]

Big Brother always cast black girls who fall under the same stereotype. FACT. I happen to find that stereotype entertaining. FACT. Therefore it just so happens that most of my favourite housemates are black females. Aisleyne comes under that category except she's white and she's still one of my all-time favourites :shrug:

Seriously get back to discussing topics other than me. You are obsessed with discussing other members or something, just don't do it all together. It's not what we're on this forum for.

THIS ISN'T A THREAD ABOUT ME FFS. Why do you find that so hard to comprehend. If you want a discussion with me about me, then post on my wall or send me a message. Posting it in a thread about Adjoa being similar to Toya is just so unnecessary.



Exactly. Jemal, Drew, Brother Leon etc always support the same 'lads' yet people seem to find it funny, but if me, Pete, you etc support black girls we are called strange... :shrug:

Lol how is sarah and jade and nick, "the lads"
How is kimberely from last series "the lads"

[LukeB]

The list is endless, Dexter, Chris, Christopher, Aaron, Adam..

and you think Winston is a dick/twat so I think you just proved them wrong.

[Headie]

Well how are Eileen, Sarah, the Twins, Aaron black females? No one has mentioned that I support them also.

Lmao I'm gonna stop posting in this thread, if it makes y'all feel better ganging up on me then idc, do what makes you happy. There's really no point defending myself.

[Jemal]

You bring up me, drew and Leon too try and deflect the truth away from you lol.
I know I don't support only the lads, i either support a person I have something in common with or I naturally like.

Everyone knows and it shows that by people agreeing with what I said: you support the black girls and because they wear weave and that is a fact.
You can't tell me I do the same thing with "Lads", you can easily call the men I support "Lads" which is just b.s.

[Headie]

I'm well aware, a Toya quote you used to disparagingly compare Marlon to Adjoa because he only "works in Optics" and isn't a "model". My question remains, because I don't really get the snobbery towards a profession that isn't fame-related.

FFS it was a joke lighten up.

[Jemal]

Also Anyone who calls dappy a 'lad' must be buzzing.

[JTM45]

What a silly thread!
Toya was an asshole.

[LukeB]

Hayden I like you but I can see what people mean, I mean every black female on BBUK has been your favourite automatically but you excused Drew,Jemal and Leon supporting only lads basically when they have shown evidence that not all lads are automatically their favourite. Plus no one is ganging up on you, You mentioned their name so obviously they will comment back. I only commented because I think what you said was false because I know some of their favourites.I mean I get excused of supporting only blonde pretty females when if you look at my profile most are females with different hair colour and some are boys so it's quite annoying when you have shown evidence that you support different types but you have not proven that you hate sassy black females.

[Jemal]

Hayden I like you but I can see what people mean, I mean every black female on BBUK has been your favourite automatically but you excused Drew,Jemal and Leon supporting only lads basically when they have shown evidence that not all lads are automatically their favourite. Plus no one is ganging up on you, You mentioned their name so obviously they will comment back. I only commented because I think what you said was false because I know some of their favourites.I mean I get excused of supporting only blonde pretty females when if you look at my profile most are females with different hair colour and some are boys so it's quite annoying when you have shown evidence that you support different types but you have not proven that you hate sassy black females.

:clap2:

[AnnieK]

Couldn't stand Toya (although I liked her from her VT) in the house. The jury is still out on Adjoa at the moment...

[Headie]

Hayden I like you but I can see what people mean, I mean every black female on BBUK has been your favourite automatically but you excused Drew,Jemal and Leon supporting only lads basically when they have shown evidence that not all lads are automatically their favourite. Plus no one is ganging up on you, You mentioned their name so obviously they will comment back. I only commented because I think what you said was false because I know some of their favourites.I mean I get excused of supporting only blonde pretty females when if you look at my profile most are females with different hair colour and some are boys so it's quite annoying when you have shown evidence that you support different types but you have not proven that you hate sassy black females.

Erm, I made a normal, topic-related post and then BB6 randomly attacked me, so I defended myself and all of a sudden it became a 'Hate on Hayden' thread :shrug:

Are you actually kidding? Aisleyne, Deana, Corin, Nadia, Ashleigh, etc are some of my fave HMs ever and they're not black.

Literally you're all making out as though I only support black people, which is totally unfair.

And the Drew, Jemal comparisons are completely accurate IMO. They support 'lads' as well as other people, but mostly 'Lads'. I support 'fierce girls' (who are often black due to type-casting) as well as other people, but mostly fierce girls.

Right everyone just get their digs, everyone comment on how awful I am etc blah blah blah. I'm just not posting in this thread anymore, you all win, you get your way w/e

[Drew.]

http://33.media.tumblr.com/f6cf516945cc0b1db3916c5849cbbdbb/tumblr_noeezsqoFA1sfysqqo1_500.gif

[reece(:]

Why is it even a problem who supports who, let them get on with it. There's no rule saying one person shouldn't support a black housemate because they supported other black housemates or one person shouldn't be able to support a lad because they have supported other lads. It's a pointless, tired argument and people will have a type of HM they prefer to watch.

If someone has a problem with me supporting the black females maybe take it up with BB to put in a black female I may not support? Ftr, I didn't like Ife in BB11 or much of Shievonne in BB13.

[Locke.]

Erm, I made a normal, topic-related post and then BB6 randomly attacked me, so I defended myself and all of a sudden it became a 'Hate on Hayden' thread :shrug:

Are you actually kidding? Aisleyne, Deana, Corin, Nadia, Ashleigh, etc are some of my fave HMs ever and they're not black.

Literally you're all making out as though I only support black people, which is totally unfair.

And the Drew, Jemal comparisons are completely accurate IMO. They support 'lads' as well as other people, but mostly 'Lads'. I support 'fierce girls' (who are often black due to type-casting) as well as other people, but mostly fierce girls.

Right everyone just get their digs, everyone comment on how awful I am etc blah blah blah. I'm just not posting in this thread anymore, you all win, you get your way w/e

https://38.media.tumblr.com/f411761e9b8ec6a1273af063cbe92eff/tumblr_nocu3ihJ8w1sfysqqo1_500.gif

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's 2015 and Toya is still ridiculously overrated :3

[Calderyon]

Toya sucks. Adjoa doesn´t.

She eats.

[Glenn.]

Back on topic. I saw no Toya realness last night. Can someone explain what the realness was?

[Drew.]

Toya sucks. Adjoa doesn´t.

She eats.

:joker:

[billy123]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5f/5f898308887800ad5b233cffd852f14f8d98b76e13cc6eba2f 40d779fb1c3b98.jpg

[Jemal]

Lol i honestly don't know how adjoa is fierce..
Too me shes just a horny woman. But thats just me.
& Toya just had a big mouth, she wasn't fierce lol.

Sarah and Helen are fierce.

[Glenn.]

The only thing I know about adjoa is that she likes pussy and thinks religion is real.

[Glenn.]

In my book that makes her a moron tbh

[Pete.]

Back on topic. I saw no Toya realness last night. Can someone explain what the realness was?
I was just comparing her reaction to the slime to Toya's reaction to the fish etc on her season but people have gotten mad & off topic

Toya still in people minds 1 year on
http://33.media.tumblr.com/0f8f8f7fcc0f4fea218f1b6a69be1508/tumblr_noeexyg8Yg1sfysqqo1_400.gif

[Glenn.]

Oh. I can't remember that

[Jemal]

What has adjoa done to be a forum favourite with 24.9% lol.
Talk about pussy?

Someone needs to enlighten me.

[Calderyon]

For the record, i like Adjoa.

Didn´t like Toya. At all. And newer will.

[Pete.]

What has adjoa done to be a forum favourite with 24.9% lol.
Talk about pussy?

Someone needs to enlighten me.
What's Jack done?

[Pete.]

Kimberly was forum fave this time last year lmao

[Jemal]

What's Jack done?

You didn't answer my question?
And that reply question is irrelevant to me as jack isn't leading the forum polls.

So please answer my question since you support adjoa greatly

[Pete.]

You didn't answer my question?
And that reply question is irrelevant to me as jack isn't leading the forum polls.

So please answer my question since you support adjoa greatly
Well, I don't rate Jack highly but he's leading public poll regardless of the forums (and BBSpy)'s polls

[Pete.]

Justice 4 Jale :(

[reece(:]

Justice 4 Jale :(
Noooo

[Niamh.]

Who everyone likes and supports and for what reason is their own business, can you all stay on topic please and stop getting personal or I'll start handing out infractions

[Pete.]

Noooo
Ashleigh > Jale tho

[Macie Lightfoot]

Toya still in people minds 1 year on

because YOU brought her up lmfao come on

[Pete.]

because YOU brought her up lmfao come on
:laugh:

It was a joke tbh

[Shaun]

For the record, i like Adjoa.

Didn´t like Toya. At all. And newer will.

:clap1:

[Josy]

Toya was only really entertaining for a few days with the whole "Hurricane Toya" thing. Apart from that she didn't really do anything to be loved loads as an housemate.

Hurricane Tonya was the equivalent of a wet fart tbh

[Heaven = Winner]

Toya is so overrated tbh. Mutha P was the real bad bish of BB15 anyway.

[Drew.]

Hurricane Tonya was the equivalent of a wet fart tbh

:joker:

[y.winter]

Hurricane Tonya was the equivalent of a wet fart tbh

She really killed it with that hurricane branding. It's just OTT scripted.

[Headie]

Hurricane Tonya was the equivalent of a wet fart tbh

Idk why but I'm screaming @ "Hurricane Tonya" :joker:

[reece(:]

Hurricane Tonya was the equivalent of a wet fart tbh
NOT Tonya :laugh3:

[Josy]

Lol that was my phobe :hee:

[Josy]

Pgone

[Josy]

Oh **** it

[GypsyGoth]

:laugh2: :laugh2:

[Headie]

Lol that was my phobe :hee:

Pgone

Oh **** it

Hurricane Tonya hacking into your autocorrect?

[Niamh.]

:laugh2:

[reece(:]

http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/lmao.gif

[Pete.]

Lmao Josy

[Heaven = Winner]

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

not josy lashed at teatime

again


:idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.imgur.com/G1MIC.jpg

[Brother Leon]

Big Brother always cast black girls who fall under the same stereotype. FACT. I happen to find that stereotype entertaining. FACT. Therefore it just so happens that most of my favourite housemates are black females. Aisleyne comes under that category except she's white and she's still one of my all-time favourites :shrug:

Seriously get back to discussing topics other than me. You are obsessed with discussing other members or something, just don't do it all together. It's not what we're on this forum for.

THIS ISN'T A THREAD ABOUT ME FFS. Why do you find that so hard to comprehend. If you want a discussion with me about me, then post on my wall or send me a message. Posting it in a thread about Adjoa being similar to Toya is just so unnecessary.



Exactly. Jemal, Drew, Brother Leon etc always support the same 'lads' yet people seem to find it funny, but if me, Pete, you etc support black girls we are called strange... :shrug:

My last few faves have been Gary Busey,Dexter and Perez ****inng Hilton. This year would be Nick IF I had to choose now. Them pure lads there :joker:



Anyway. People can like who they want. I only really find it funny when the black girl is straight away made out to be some fierce queen when half the time they aren't tbh...This series being an example :laugh: