Aaron and Joel: Showmance?

[Firewire]

The Big Brother housemates were in flirtatious mood after Aaron Frew admitting to fancying Joel Williams.

Aaron admitted to being attracted to the 19-year-old Welshman, but Joel ruled out any future romance, saying that the pair should just be friends.

Aaron said: "I've got to admit it Joel, over the past few days… think I've come to realise that I've started to fancy you."

Joel replied: "I don't fancy you Aaron… I'm straight and I'm proud to say I'm heterosexual."

Aaron went on to speak about Joel, saying: "It's the way he's just so straight to the point… he'd be very dominating in the bedroom.

"He'd be like 'Aaron bend over' and I would be like 'yes sir'. I joke… even though you're 19…. I'd call him Sir. I'd do everything for him… I'd be your bitch. How would you feel about that if I was a girl?"

"If you were a girl then I would certainly consider it," Joel replied.

Aaron then said: "But I could be a girl. I could be a drag queen for you."

Joel added: "I have to say Aaron, as lovely as you are I think we should just be friends."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a647861/big-brother-day-5-aaron-flirts-with-joel-ive-started-to-fancy-you.html

[Pete.]

Lmao what?

[MB.]

"I'm proud to say I'm heterosexual"

eject ha

[Firewire]

"I'm proud to say I'm heterosexual"

eject ha

closet teas

[Margarine.]

if there was ever a reason for a straight man to turn down free sex, Aaron is it

[LukeB]

Joel is straight so no

[Pete.]

I could be a drag queen for you.

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[Firewire]

Joel is straight so no

Doubt it

[Raph]

If that was a man saying that to a woman, it wouldn't be classed as okay. It's rather vulgar of Aaron to speak in such a manner to Joel - especially given that he's younger than him (although really, regardless).

As for Joel's sexuality, yes during auditions when we spoke I did question it, but ultimately it's important to take his word for it, in such a situation. If he's telling Aaron he's 'straight', then Aaron should respect that, instead of trying to use his homosexuality as a shield to speak to Joel in the way in which he did.

[LukeB]

Doubt it

he showed nothing that he is 'gay' tbh

[Dollface]

If that was a man saying that to a woman, it wouldn't be classed as okay. It's rather vulgar of Aaron to speak in such a manner to Joel - especially given that he's younger than him (although really, regardless).

As for Joel's sexuality, yes during auditions when we spoke I did question it, but ultimately it's important to take his word for it, in such a situation. If he's telling Aaron he's 'straight', then Aaron should respect that, instead of trying to use his homosexuality as a shield to speak to Joel in the way in which he did.

You auditioned? :amazed:

[Firewire]

If that was a man saying that to a woman, it wouldn't be classed as okay. It's rather vulgar of Aaron to speak in such a manner to Joel - especially given that he's younger than him (although really, regardless).

As for Joel's sexuality, yes during auditions when we spoke I did question it, but ultimately it's important to take his word for it, in such a situation. If he's telling Aaron he's 'straight', then Aaron should respect that, instead of trying to use his homosexuality as a shield to speak to Joel in the way in which he did.

I think this is very unfair.

[Lostie!]

"He'd be like 'Aaron bend over' and I would be like 'yes sir'. I joke… even though you're 19…. I'd call him Sir. I'd do everything for him… I'd be your bitch. How would you feel about that if I was a girl?"

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[Babayaro.]

Craig Coates 2.0

[Firewire]

Craig Coates 2.0

it so is

[Rob!]

Omg :joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

Joel is probably bi.

[Raph]

I think this is very unfair.

Yeah? Please tell me in what way, we're all always trying to learn and educate ourselves and if there was something inherently homophobic in my post, I'd really like to be called out on it. I have my views but I'm always seeking to better my views :)

[Natalie.]

Craig Coates 2.0

My thoughts too :laugh:

[sampvt]

Why do some gay people have a hard time understanding why a man is straight and have no gay tendancies. There are so many posts on this subject that its beginning to look like being straight is some kind of genetic failing.

[Denver]

Aaron is disgusting had a "straight" man said this there would be no end slating him but because its a gay person then its perfectly OK I'm sorry but its not OK its bang out of order

[Jack_]

:joker:

here for it

Craig Coates 2.0

it so is

My thoughts too :laugh:

I said this on launch night and people started insinuating I was being homophobic. I meant it as a compliment, if he is anything like Craig he will be amazing :clap1:

[Vanessa]

Great, just what we need : another Craig and Anthony . :idc:

[Jack_]

Great, just what we need : another Craig and Anthony . :idc:

i.e one of the funniest and messiest storylines in BBUK's history

yes plz

[Babayaro.]

:joker:

here for it







I said this on launch night and people started insinuating I was being homophobic. I meant it as a compliment, if he is anything like Craig he will be amazing :clap1:

He's kind of like a mix between Craig and Mark(BB15) which is essentially a Big Brother monster

[T*]

Aaron then said: "But I could be a girl. I could be a drag queen for you."
im crying omfg

[Northern Monkey]

Jeez!And people think Danny is a sex pest??
And people slated Jack for watching the girls train??

[Heaven = Winner]

pahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Liam-]

Vom

[Jamesy]

"He'd be like 'Aaron bend over' and I would be like 'yes sir'. I joke… even though you're 19…. I'd call him Sir. I'd do everything for him… I'd be your bitch. How would you feel about that if I was a girl?"

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[Jamesy]

Aaron going down in my books.

I know gays can be pervs over straight guys although that comment is a bit :umm2:

[joeysteele]

If that was a man saying that to a woman, it wouldn't be classed as okay. It's rather vulgar of Aaron to speak in such a manner to Joel - especially given that he's younger than him (although really, regardless).

As for Joel's sexuality, yes during auditions when we spoke I did question it, but ultimately it's important to take his word for it, in such a situation. If he's telling Aaron he's 'straight', then Aaron should respect that, instead of trying to use his homosexuality as a shield to speak to Joel in the way in which he did.

I agree with all that.

[Natalie.]

:joker:

here for it

I said this on launch night and people started insinuating I was being homophobic. I meant it as a compliment, if he is anything like Craig he will be amazing :clap1:

Yea, Craig is my favourite male housemate :worship:

[lily.]

If this turns into Craig/Anthony MK II .. it will be BRILLIANT. That was one of the funniest messes in BB history.

[joeysteele]

If this turns into Craig/Anthony MK II .. it will be BRILLIANT. That was one of the funniest messes in BB history.

That's true as well.

[Raph]

I agree with all that.

Thanks joey, just trying to make sense of the situation. It's a shame Aaron feels it's okay to talk to Joel like that.

[Vanessa]

Thanks joey, just trying to make sense of the situation. It's a shame Aaron feels it's okay to talk to Joel like that.

It's not right. If he was a man saying that to a woman he would get in trouble.

[lily.]

There are always double standards though. If a man was going on about pussy as much as Adjoa does, the viewers would hate it.

[Raph]

There are always double standards though. If a man was going on about pussy as much as Adjoa does, the viewers would hate it.

In my opinion, there's an inherent difference. Adios talks about liking pussy - which is entirely fine. She likes pussy and she should have every right to talk about it, as its just a form of expression for her. As for Aaron, he's not saying 'I like dick' -- he's effectlvely imposing his own sexual desires on Joel, without respecting the fact that Joel has strongly insinuated that he's not interested.

[Northern Monkey]

There are always double standards though. If a man was going on about pussy as much as Adjoa does, the viewers would hate it.

Adjoa has basically given the men a free pass to talk about pussy as much as they want now though.If anyone complains then everyone will be like 'well look what Adjoa said".

[lily.]

In my opinion, there's an inherent difference. Adios talks about liking pussy - which is entirely fine. She likes pussy and she should have every right to talk about it, as its just a form of expression for her. As for Aaron, he's not saying 'I like dick' -- he's effectlvely imposing his own sexual desires on Joel, without respecting the fact that Joel has strongly insinuated that he's not interested.


Oh yeah, I don't think the two situations are the same in any way. I should have clarified that in my post.

I was just making an observation about double standards. They exist everywhere.

[waterhog]

i think now joel has said it - it will be a good idea if arron calls it - but i have a feeling it is going to go very wrong for arron.

[Raph]

Oh yeah, I don't think the two situations are the same in any way. I should have clarified that in my post.

I was just making an observation about double standards. They exist everywhere.

Fair, fair. You're right and its a shame. That being said, hopefully discussions like this on the forum will help (even in the smallest possible way) to step away from the gender binary and its social constructs. :)

[Firewire]

Yeah? Please tell me in what way, we're all always trying to learn and educate ourselves and if there was something inherently homophobic in my post, I'd really like to be called out on it. I have my views but I'm always seeking to better my views :)

Joel was present for the conversation and was okay with the conversation topic, so I don't think Aaron overstepped. Had Joel not been there and Aaron make comments like that, then, yes, I would agree that it was in bad taste.

Joel's sexuality being a talking point isn't a bad thing, because no one is using it against him. Joel says he's straight, then he might be, but speculating otherwise isn't inappropriate unless it's being used against him. And in this case, it isn't. People want this relationship to happen, so I don't feel like Aaron isn't using his sexuality as a shield... (what does that mean?)

I know you have met Joel and you have a better grasp of him than I do, but I just don't feel like Aaron is in the wrong as he isn't forcing his sexuality on him.

I don't mean to criticise you, Raph... just analysing your post :)

[lily.]

Raph, you have met Joel? I did not know this.

[uniquedude]

Aaron is disgusting had a "straight" man said this there would be no end slating him but because its a gay person then its perfectly OK I'm sorry but its not OK its bang out of order

People are slating him on this very thread lol

[Denver]

People are slating him on this very thread lol

Yes a handful but had it been a "straight" man this thread would be 10 page long by now

[reece(:]

Lmao here for the messiness

[uniquedude]

Yes a handful but had it been a "straight" man this thread would be 10 page long by now

Doubt it. People are this forum are pretty good with double standards anyway.

[Denver]

Doubt it. People are this forum are pretty good with double standards anyway.

There was a load of pages on the danny thread with the things he said about girls with 80% of it negative

[divergent]

aaron "joel is daddy af" fmll lmaooo

[reece(:]

aaron "joel is daddy af" fmll lmaooo
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