Should Loose women be axed?

[Kazanne]

This is the second time in a few weeks one of these women have been over zealous in their opinions,I think it's about had it's day.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/tv/news/coleen-nolan-compared-gay-rights-to-isis-on-loose-women-and-now-fans-want-her-gone/ar-BBjZtO5?ocid=U206DHP

You’ve got to hand it to those Loose Women ladies – they certainly know how pee us all off. The latest being Coleen Nolan, who has compared gay rights to ISIS and managed to offend just about every gay man and woman under the sun. Quite rightly, fans are calling for the Nolan sister to be given the boot for her blatant homophobic remarks.

Discussing Ireland’s “gay cake” row, which saw a bakery found guilty of discrimination for refusing to bake a cake supporting gay marriage, the Loose Women panelist praised the store for sticking to their prejudices. Whatever, she’s a muppet, but when she argued that baking the cake would be no different to forcing Ashers Baking Company to bake a cake supporting ISIS the 60s pop star went from ignorant to criminally offensive.

“At the end of the day, if you went in there and two days later they said, ‘We don’t want to make your cakes because of our beliefs’, you’d just never go back to that shop and you’d probably say to all your gay friends, ‘Don’t go there, they’re anti-gay’, and boycott it,” she said to a bewildered panel made up of Janet Street-Porter, Jamelia and Ruth Langsford.


“What about if somebody walked in and said I want a cake and I want the whole Islamic State on it and how I support it and how I support them killing our people. Because it’s a business, do they have to make it? And if they turn around and say they’re not making it, we’d all applaud it.”

Jamelia said she thought the bakery’s religous beliefs “aren’t being taken into account” but assured she supports “equal right for everyone,” which is a pretty useless contradiction from the woman who says to speak her mind. Janet Street-Porter incorrectly said that Northern Ireland had legalised gay marriage and explained Gareth Lee, who placed the order, was testing out the law.

In Coleen Nolan shared a similar sentiment attacking gay adoption, admitting “there’s only so much I want to accept”.


Fellow panelist Jamelia caused a storm last month and in turn put an end to her proposed musical comeback by criticising the high street for catering to people above or below a certain size.


“I am all for celebrating people as they are – I think everyone has a right to be comfortable in their own skin, I think everyone should have access to lovely clothes – but I do not think it’s right to facilitate people living an unhealthy lifestyle, I really don’t. In the same way I don’t believe a size zero should be available, it’s not a healthy size for a woman to be.”

The post Coleen Nolan compared gay rights to ISIS on Loose Women and now fans want her gone appeared first on EntertainmentWise.

[GypsyGoth]

Coleen must be homophobic.

[arista]

No Kaz
you Sack the one that has created a Storm.


They have a Massive team
working .
Although live
everything is tested first.


Any Storm in the News
can get them even more viewers
even shown at 3AM at night
for night workers


LooseWomenHD
employs more men

[arista]

Coleen must be homophobic.



No she is connected to Ireland
a nation that is Anti Gay


Sign Of The Times

[arista]

Todays show had her on
no mention of this MSN link

[VanessaFeltz.]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/2b9e9d9193562243abe5fc53c0437125/tumblr_mfo10qM2331rfs2y4o1_500.gif to her

[Amy Jade]

Comparing being gay to being a terrorist? ffs she should be ashamed of herself

[arista]

Comparing being gay to being a terrorist? ffs she should be ashamed of herself



I can not recal her saying it

But in general she is downbeat

[Kazanne]

Coleen must be homophobic.

:laugh:Dont know about loose woman , she certainly has a loose tongue.:hehe:

[Niamh.]

No she is connected to Ireland
a nation that is Anti Gay


Sign Of The Times

No we're not

[LukeB]

They need to axe Coleen tbh

[joeysteele]

Yes, long overdue being got rid of and I will never know why anyone like Coleen Nolan ever got on it in the first place.

[smudgie]

I believe the same comparison was put on here, nothing to do with being anti gay, more to do with it being a business and not being allowed to refuse anybody just because they went against your beliefs.:shrug:
So, not so much homophobic as giving an example. Might be a bit extreme but she has a point.
As to sacking her, well, the clue is in the title of the show, Loose Women, meaning they discuss topcs that are in the news etc and give their own opinions.
Normally light hearted stuff, perhaps they could concentrate on that side of stuff, so as not to offend.

[MTVN]

^ Agree smudgie, I don't agree with her but I can see the logic to her point and she won't be alone in holding that view, the whole point of their show is for them to discuss their different views on stuff like this

[Braden]

Coleen came across very ignorant with that comparison, and it doesn't help that she's made prejudice remarks before in regards to gay rights.

imo I think the customers were right to be outraged by what happened. I find it completely unprofessional to deny them what they asked for. Giving them what they ask doesn't automatically make the business owners pro-same sex marriage/rights, it just means they're doing business.

It'd be like someone working in a sports shop and not allowing somebody to buy a Manchester United shirt because they support Liverpool. Using ISIS as an example is pretty disgusting, and I hope at one point Coleen looks back at what she said with shame.

[Z]

Extreme comparison but I get the point she's making - I think the guy turning it into a news story to shame the company was more about him getting his revenge than anything else. Some people don't like gay people. I'm not really sure why or how the fact it was for a gay wedding would have come up, or why it ever did? I feel there's possibly more to this than meets the eye, maybe the guy walked in, kicked up a fuss, they refused him and he cried gay wolf.

[hijaxers]

Just get rid of the whole programme its totally outdated now and boring to watch , i stopped watching about 3 years ago as it had gone so downhill and its now in the cesspit !

[Dollface]

Do people still watch that crappy show?

[Z]

I actually think the program is still a good concept, it's just woefully run - panel shows which cover a variety of topics are great but it'd be nice if the panel didn't consist of morons whose other careers have stalled so they've turned to Loose Women as a safe haven. Jamelia had about 4 hits ten years ago. I don't care what her opinion is on anything. Get some more interesting people on there and it'll be fine.

[arista]

I actually think the program is still a good concept, it's just woefully run - panel shows which cover a variety of topics are great but it'd be nice if the panel didn't consist of morons whose other careers have stalled so they've turned to Loose Women as a safe haven. Jamelia had about 4 hits ten years ago. I don't care what her opinion is on anything. Get some more interesting people on there and it'll be fine.


She is the one who has the Bog
Hang Up

[Kizzy]

Oh I can't be bothered with that show, if I want a narrow minded or otherwise bizarre perspective on anything I'll look elsewhere :fan:

[arista]

Oh I can't be bothered with that show, if I want a narrow minded or otherwise bizarre perspective on anything I'll look elsewhere :fan:


But many ages watch it.


I copy some edits
for my mates in China

[Firewire]

Bring back Denise and Carol

[arista]

Bring back Denise and Carol

No their door is bolted
and they have moved on

[YourLAEx]

Coleen has always been homophobic.

She said years ago she was against gay adoption because there's 'only so much she should have to accept'.

[JoshBB]

One woman being homophobic shouldn't mean the show being shut down. She should be removed for being that prejudiced but the show appeals to many and for that reason it should stay.

[kirklancaster]

In a word - 'YES' - for me.

[Jake.]

She listens to her son having sex, I really wouldn't take anything she says seriously

[Ammi]

..no I don't think so, not unless the ratings say so...I have theory anyway about Loose Women from the few times I've watched it...obviously they discuss controversial stuff and I think maybe are 'told' in a way what their views will be or know that they have to give alternative views otherwise it would just be...yeah I agree, agree, agree..etc and how would that spark conversations/discussion etc...I just don't believe with 4 or 5 ladies or how many there are that they never seem to have the same view on anything whatever the topic is because I think that would happen with some things...so they're not always so much putting forward their opinions but just giving different slants to things etc...and yeah, they'll know that sometimes things they say are going to get them 'hated' but also controversy being the fame of the day, they'll probably be ok-ish with that...maybe they all draw straws to decide what stance they will have on a topic that day..Colleen, today with the gays and the cakes, you will say that they can't have a piece of that cake, we've given them marriage, what more do they want for goodness sake, how much more can we take from these gay people...etc/my theory....99.9% of my theories are usually wrong...

[kirklancaster]

..no I don't think so, not unless the ratings say so...I have theory anyway about Loose Women from the few times I've watched it...obviously they discuss controversial stuff and I think maybe are 'told' in a way what their views will be or know that they have to give alternative views otherwise it would just be...yeah I agree, agree, agree..etc and how would that spark conversations/discussion etc...I just don't believe with 4 or 5 ladies or how many there are that they never seem to have the same view on anything whatever the topic is because I think that would happen with some things...so they're not always so much putting forward their opinions but just giving different slants to things etc...and yeah, they'll know that sometimes things they say are going to get them 'hated' but also controversy being the fame of the day, they'll probably be ok-ish with that...maybe they all draw straws to decide what stance they will have on a topic that day..Colleen, today with the gays and the cakes, you will say that they can't have a piece of that cake, we've given them marriage, what more do they want for goodness sake, how much more can we take from these gay people...etc/my theory....99.9% of my theories are usually wrong...

Not at all Ammi - you are one of my favourite posters for a very good reason (well more than one really) You are always relevant and manage to get valid points across without extremism or the resultant controversy which ensues from such extremism.

It's a very real 'art form' Ammi - one I wish that I was master of. :hehe:

[Cherie]

..no I don't think so, not unless the ratings say so...I have theory anyway about Loose Women from the few times I've watched it...obviously they discuss controversial stuff and I think maybe are 'told' in a way what their views will be or know that they have to give alternative views otherwise it would just be...yeah I agree, agree, agree..etc and how would that spark conversations/discussion etc...I just don't believe with 4 or 5 ladies or how many there are that they never seem to have the same view on anything whatever the topic is because I think that would happen with some things...so they're not always so much putting forward their opinions but just giving different slants to things etc...and yeah, they'll know that sometimes things they say are going to get them 'hated' but also controversy being the fame of the day, they'll probably be ok-ish with that...maybe they all draw straws to decide what stance they will have on a topic that day..Colleen, today with the gays and the cakes, you will say that they can't have a piece of that cake, we've given them marriage, what more do they want for goodness sake, how much more can we take from these gay people...etc/my theory....99.9% of my theories are usually wrong...

Absolutely, they are there to have diverse views and cause controversy, you can imagine Coleen in the pre meeting agreeing to take that stance and knowing the flak she would get, if no one is talking about the show, the ratings drop, the show is cleverly made to give it a Mumsy coffeee table chat feel but alot of effort goes into making it look like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What if some ISIS members are gay?


:suspect:


I think Ireland has the right to bear arms against this ISIS invasion or indeed an invasion by THE GAYS

I heard the other day that a group of The Gays threw a man off a roof for being isis

:fist: when will we stop the gays from taking us over

one day we will all be gay if we dont act NOW


:idc:

[kirklancaster]

What if some ISIS members are gay?


:suspect:


I think Ireland has the right to bear arms against this ISIS invasion or indeed an invasion by THE GAYS

I heard the other day that a group of The Gays threw a man off a roof for being isis

:fist: when will we stop the gays from taking us over

one day we will all be gay if we dont act NOW


:idc:

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: My jaws are HURTING from laughing LT FFS. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[user104658]

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

[Niamh.]

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

I disagree with that, refusing to put a slogan supporting a terrorist group is not discrimination against terrorist groups, since they're .....a terrorist group lol in fact the person asking for that message should probably be reported and questioned about their links to that terrorist group :laugh:

[arista]

"Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle "

No TS alot of men work on that team
they want to keep their jobs

[arista]

What if some ISIS members are gay?


:suspect:


I think Ireland has the right to bear arms against this ISIS invasion or indeed an invasion by THE GAYS

I heard the other day that a group of The Gays threw a man off a roof for being isis

:fist: when will we stop the gays from taking us over

one day we will all be gay if we dont act NOW


:idc:


they will be in the closet , though

[user104658]

I disagree with that, refusing to put a slogan supporting a terrorist group is not discrimination against terrorist groups, since they're .....a terrorist group lol in fact the person asking for that message should probably be reported and questioned about their links to that terrorist group [emoji23]
It's not about whether or not it's discrimination though, and I'm not saying they shouldn't lose business, just that the consequences should be "natural" - i.e. Tell everyone how small minded and prejudiced they are and they will lose business, one would hope.

All I'm saying is that you can't legislate prejudice out of existence. If it was illegal for them to refuse to make the gay wedding cake, sure, they would make the cake, but would they be any less prejudiced? Would you WANT your cake to be made by people who are against something so fundamental about you, just because the law says they "have to"? It's just a mess.

Also, how is it feasible? You can't make legislation that says a business has go accept every single job. What if a cake shop has a load of other wedding booked for the same week and simply has to turn someone away? That has to be an option. You can't tell a private business that they must accept every contract that comes their way, it's just not feasible. And so, all you will end up with is people still turning away business for prejudiced reasons but just not being honest about them, and just saying that they aren't available at that time / can't do it for some other reason.

Better that people know their ****ty reasons in my opinion, so that they can then commit to NEVER using them.

[Vanessa]

i don't watch it anymore. It has gone stale for me. The only one i like in there is Janet Street Porter.

[user104658]

"Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle "

No TS alot of men work on that team
they want to keep their jobs
It would be replaced with another daytime TV show no doubt, so all of the behind the scenes people would have new positions to apply for. It would just be the menopausal alcoholic old bats we'd be getting rid of.

[arista]

It would be replaced with another daytime TV show no doubt, so all of the behind the scenes people would have new positions to apply for. It would just be the menopausal alcoholic old bats we'd be getting rid of.


Yes but they say this format does well.

They have to keep changing the women
and deleting the rotten ones

[Liam-]

It should be replaced by a daytime tv show with a panel of men talking about how awful women are, see how long that would last on air.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It should be replaced by a daytime tv show with a panel of men talking about how awful women are, see how long that would last on air.

They could just film one of my calls to me old mate Jeremy is they want that type of action

:idc:

[Z]

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

Yeah I think this too - the guy has every right to be offended and upset but you can't make them sell him a cake for a gay wedding, just as much as you can't make them sell an ISIS cake or a cake promoting cock fighting or wearing fur or having abortions or any number of social issues that people have varied opinions on.

[waterhog]

this show started off good - and now it has gone on like a long over due marriage that should have ended in divorce years ago.

i might do a poem on it but i have done to many poems on loose woman so i best stick to bb.

[T*]

they should basically change the title to 'chubby women craving attention and love'

[kirklancaster]

It's not about whether or not it's discrimination though, and I'm not saying they shouldn't lose business, just that the consequences should be "natural" - i.e. Tell everyone how small minded and prejudiced they are and they will lose business, one would hope.

All I'm saying is that you can't legislate prejudice out of existence. If it was illegal for them to refuse to make the gay wedding cake, sure, they would make the cake, but would they be any less prejudiced? Would you WANT your cake to be made by people who are against something so fundamental about you, just because the law says they "have to"? It's just a mess.

Also, how is it feasible? You can't make legislation that says a business has go accept every single job. What if a cake shop has a load of other wedding booked for the same week and simply has to turn someone away? That has to be an option. You can't tell a private business that they must accept every contract that comes their way, it's just not feasible. And so, all you will end up with is people still turning away business for prejudiced reasons but just not being honest about them, and just saying that they aren't available at that time / can't do it for some other reason.

Better that people know their ****ty reasons in my opinion, so that they can then commit to NEVER using them.

Common sense post of the week for me TS. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[the truth]

the irony is the ONLY prejudice on that show is against heterosexual men, but no one says anything about that in this male hating country

[the truth]

It's not about whether or not it's discrimination though, and I'm not saying they shouldn't lose business, just that the consequences should be "natural" - i.e. Tell everyone how small minded and prejudiced they are and they will lose business, one would hope.

All I'm saying is that you can't legislate prejudice out of existence. If it was illegal for them to refuse to make the gay wedding cake, sure, they would make the cake, but would they be any less prejudiced? Would you WANT your cake to be made by people who are against something so fundamental about you, just because the law says they "have to"? It's just a mess.

Also, how is it feasible? You can't make legislation that says a business has go accept every single job. What if a cake shop has a load of other wedding booked for the same week and simply has to turn someone away? That has to be an option. You can't tell a private business that they must accept every contract that comes their way, it's just not feasible. And so, all you will end up with is people still turning away business for prejudiced reasons but just not being honest about them, and just saying that they aren't available at that time / can't do it for some other reason.

Better that people know their ****ty reasons in my opinion, so that they can then commit to NEVER using them.

agreed..the judge was probably a hetro male hating feminsits too , trying to endear herself to the gay community. her rationale was insane and if applied across society would create anarchy...I wonder if these activists will be demanded pork and such like at muslim take aways and jewish food places against their religious views too? the business had every right to say no

[Kizzy]

they should basically change the title to 'chubby women craving attention and love'

Don't let Jamelia hear you call her chubby she'll ban herself form every clothes shop except evans :/

[anne666]

I said "Yes!" before I even opened the thread because Loose Women is a ****ing awful show. Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.

... However, on this occasion, the comparison is perfectly valid. Either businesses have the right to refuse service based on their beliefs - be that refusing a gay wedding cake, or an ISIS cake (a hilarious concept in itself btw. Happy Terrorism Day!!). It actually makes no difference. And no that does not equate to "comparing gay people to terrorists", it's not about what is right or wrong... It's about the right to refuse business. Pure and simple. They ARE in the wrong but, again, the correct course of action is to spread the word that the business is homophobic and potentially damage their reputation, boycott them, and ask friends to do the same. You can't legislate for equality. Should they be "forced" to take the business and make the cake begrudgingly? That's got nothing to do with equality. It does nothing to tackle prejudice. The owners would STILL be just as prejudiced.

The comparison was inane and lacking in any reality. No business has any legal right to refuse business on the basis of their chosen beliefs, if it is a rightfully protected characteristic. We do legislate for equality, what are the equality laws about in your mind? ISIS are proscribed, so I wish her good luck with that bit of stupidity. I would doubt she even understands what that means. I assume she knows nothing about hate law etc. and protected characteristics which prevent the crap she was inferring by her illegal and disgraceful comparison. No-one can demand any old depiction on a cake! If she doesn't agree with this judgement and wants religion to ursurp the law, I wish her good luck with that, but that would mean all religions. There's a worrying thought to ponder. How far back in history does she want to drag everyone? Pointless thought as it's all above her head. Everything she said was factually wrong and all she did was spout nonsensical sensationalist clap trap. There is nothing new in this case, no precedent set and nothing sinister. The existing laws were upheld, which this supposed and post the event, "Christian" baker (whatever that's supposed to mean) broke in spectacular fashion. Shooting himself in the foot in the media and months later sticking a Biblical Jewish reference to their company name on his website for good but ineffective measure. He's a fundamentalist homophobic bigot. I think they wanted to try to change the existing laws, probably hoping to establish a new conscience clause, with the full financial backing of the evangelical Christian Institute. That is their agenda. They're just about equal to the Westboro Baptists in attitude. Homosexuals are not asking for anything other than the equal rights afforded to the rest of society.
As for JSP, completely lost in la la land. Obviously even less research from her, if that's possible. She hadn't the first clue what any of this was about and got it all spectacularly wrong.
The whole thing was false, irresponsible broadcasting and why should they be allowed to do that? Is the minimum of research not required of any of them? They're just allowed to spout ignorant nonsense to the viewing public.

[empire]

ok she has killed someone with her words, there are alot more worse things in this world,than what she said.

[Benjamin]

Cackling harpies vomiting simple-minded twaddle into their coffee mugs.



This sounds like TiBB :conf2:

[reece(:]

Get rid of the middle aged hags trying to force their opinions about.

[Fat.Rat]

Yea get rid, dusty muffed old woman moaning on they give me nose bleeds x

[Marsh.]

I wonder how many people commenting in this thread actually watched the show where she made the comments as opposed to the sensationalist headlines and drivel spouted by newspapers? :hee:

[arista]

I wonder how many people commenting in this thread actually watched the show where she made the comments as opposed to the sensationalist headlines and drivel spouted by newspapers? :hee:


Bang On Right Marsh

[anne666]

I wonder how many people commenting in this thread actually watched the show where she made the comments as opposed to the sensationalist headlines and drivel spouted by newspapers? :hee:

I watched the segment and I've also followed the case closely.

[arista]

Yea get rid, dusty muffed old woman moaning on they give me nose bleeds x


But they say they are Good at Sex still?

[Shaun]

Not necessarily, it should just pay women with a bit of sense and experience with social/political issues instead of tired old hags with a music career decades ago.