Who's idea do you think it was to not use Vote To Save for civilian?

[MrMinaj]

we are faced with yet another 'nominations twist', and we all know the reason for this is to keep another girl in ie jade, and hopefully evict a male.
the producers have interfered with noms more than ever since they reintroduced vote to 'evict', which makes me wonder whether 'they' really did want to use that voting system again and its not some higher power ?
it clearly does not work from a production point of view so why on earth dont they just use VTS as they do for the celebrity version??
YES i am well aware a section of the audience likes voting to 'evict', but im talking from a production point of view.

[Pete.]

Females more often goes in VTE

[Rob!]

That would be Ben Frow - head of programming at Channel 5. He was also the one to get rid of Brian and make Emma the host.

[MB.]

In theory, vote to save keeps the celebrities they've paid more for in longer, and vote to evict gets them more money.

[chuff me dizzy]

VTE is by far the best way of voting

[Pete.]

In theory, vote to save keeps the celebrities they've paid more for in longer, and vote to evict gets them more money.
Like Evander

[Pete.]

In theory, vote to save keeps the celebrities they've paid more for in longer, and vote to evict gets them more money.
Like Evander

[MrMinaj]

VTE is by far the best way of voting

for you, i am talking for the producers. it clearly is not the best way of voting...
they even had to engineer a way of putting ALL the males up one week last year as the public kept evicting the females.

[MrMinaj]

That would be Ben Frow - head of programming at Channel 5. He was also the one to get rid of Brian and make Emma the host.

how does one contact Ben Frow? i want to give him a piece of my mind ! :joker:

[Pete.]

for you, i am talking for the producers. it clearly is not the best way of voting...
they even had to engineer a way of putting ALL the males up one week last year as the public kept evicting the females.
And the best male got evicted </3

[Pete.]

how does one contact Ben Frow? i want to give him a piece of my mind ! :joker:
customerservices@channel5.com ;)

[MB.]

Like Evander

Like Evander

Hence 'in theory'. Plus, Evander had about five minutes of combined airtime and was outed as a homophobe, yet we still don't even know if he actually came bottom of the vote that week.

[bots]

I think it was Helen to blame, she gets blamed for everything else :hehe:

[Jason.]

Hence 'in theory'. Plus, Evander had about five minutes of combined airtime and was outed as a homophobe, yet we still don't even know if he actually came bottom of the vote that week.

I still think Luisa came bottom in that vote.
Though it's never been confirmed.

Wasn't there tactical voting to get Luisa out that week?

That's why Liz Jones was one of the housemates to be saved with the most votes. Because people voted for her tactically to put Luisa in danger.

[Denver]

I still think Luisa came bottom in that vote.
Though it's never been confirmed.

Wasn't there tactical voting to get Luisa out that week?

That's why Liz Jones was one of the housemates to be saved with the most votes. Because people voted for her tactically to put Luisa in danger.

No they was voted in pairs

[Pete.]

I still think Luisa came bottom in that vote.
Though it's never been confirmed.

Wasn't there tactical voting to get Luisa out that week?

That's why Liz Jones was one of the housemates to be saved with the most votes. Because people voted for her tactically to put Luisa in danger.
Thank goodness Queen Luisa didn't go

[Jason.]

No they was voted in pairs

That was the Bolt Hole fake eviction.
I'm referring to the actual first eviction, two days after.

[Jason.]

Thank goodness Queen Luisa didn't go

:flutter:

[susie q]

VTE is by far the best way of voting

Yeh I prefer it to, but still wish they would stop mucking it about with twists etc.

[Withano]

Friday night evictions were more dull with vts to be fair

[MrMinaj]

Friday night evictions were more dull with vts to be fair

the evictions are gutter television these days so who cares? i have to record it and wind through the chav crowd chanting like a bunch of morons.
rather a dull eviction than a dull show everyday. this series is already on its knees

[Turtle]

It feels like they just flip a coin for VTE/VTS.

[Beetlejuice]

He was also the one to get rid of Brian and make Emma the host.

That was a good decision at least

[Withano]

the evictions are gutter television these days so who cares? i have to record it and wind through the chav crowd chanting like a bunch of morons.
rather a dull eviction than a dull show everyday. this series is already on its knees

You're in the minority though, the show isn't gonna revolve around you! There's a lot of people who only tune in for the Friday shows

[MrMinaj]

You're in the minority though, the show isn't gonna revolve around you! There's a lot of people who only tune in for the Friday shows

woaaahh thats quite a bold statement!! judging by the forums i would say most people find the eviction shows a mess to be honest. *cough* digitalspy *cough*
even social media (who never usually comment on the crowd) joined in last friday complaining about Adjoa's treatment.

[mrmattybeck1]

ERM vote to evict was used for 11 years on c4 what's the difference now

[Withano]

woaaahh thats quite a bold statement!! judging by the forums i would say most people find the eviction shows a mess to be honest. *cough* digitalspy *cough*
even social media (who never usually comment on the crowd) joined in last friday complaining about Adjoa's treatment.

Oh you mean the couple hundred people on Internet forums or the 1m viewers who are actually reflective of the general opinions.

The eviction shows consistently draws in a wider audience and all the free attention on social media, changing the vote to vts will be rid of all of this despite what your mates on digital spy think!

[troy4783]

I will always prefer Vote to SAVE I don't really get why people prefer Vote to EVICT tbh you can pretty much predict every eviction outcome of a Vote to EVICT where as Vote to SAVE can be a lot more unpredictable .

[MrMinaj]

Oh you mean the couple hundred people on Internet forums or the 1m viewers who are actually reflective of the general opinions.

The eviction shows consistently draws in a wider audience and all the free attention on social media, changing the vote to vts will be rid of all of this despite what your mates on digital spy think!

ok what on earth are you talking about ? changing it to VTS will be rid of it all ?? what the viewers? lol. it got more viewers when it was VTS , this has been the lowest rated series so far. VTS is used on celebrity big brother which gets far more viewers for the full length of the series.
and also a 'couple of hundred' of opinions on the forums is all we have to go on is it not?? :shrug: these are the die hard fans, alot of which seem to be far more competent than the current production team!

[Withano]

ok what on earth are you talking about ? changing it to VTS will be rid of it all ?? what the viewers? lol. it got more viewers when it was VTS , this has been the lowest rated series so far. VTS is used on celebrity big brother which gets far more viewers for the full length of the series.
and also a 'couple of hundred' of opinions on the forums is all we have to go on is it not?? :shrug: these are the die hard fans, alot of which seem to be far more competent than the current production team!

Not at all, the forum opinions are completely different to the public opinions.. Tellymix is the closest site that you'll get to reliable.

If you genuinely believe that vts was the reason for the celebrity series' and the early channel 5 series' doing better than this series, then we'll agree to disagree.

The vts evictions were dull and didn't drum up much excitement online because people getting lightly clapped isn't exciting to most of the people who only tune in weekly to join the die hard fans for the Friday evictions...

Changing it back to vts will lose many occasional viewers which the show needs, and a lot of the social media support.. Which the show also needs.

[MrMinaj]

Not at all, the forum opinions are completely different to the public opinions.. Tellymix is the closest site that you'll get to reliable.

If you genuinely believe that vts was the reason for the celebrity series' and the early channel 5 series' doing better than this series, then we'll agree to disagree.

The vts evictions were dull and didn't drum up much excitement online because people getting lightly clapped isn't exciting to most of the people who only tune in weekly to join the die hard fans for the Friday evictions...

Changing it back to vts will lose many occasional viewers which the show needs, and a lot of the social media support.. Which the show also needs.

OK i won't continue to argue the point, agree to disagree :cheer2: however the bit in bold it absolute poppycock.

[Jason.]

Helen Wood's idea.

[Withano]

OK i won't continue to argue the point, agree to disagree :cheer2: however the bit in bold it absolute poppycock.

Explain how a quiet housemate getting clapped outside the house will draw in more viewers or create a bigger online buzz than the pantomime villain getting booed and dividing opinions across social media platforms?... Cosssss it wouldn't and you're wrong.