View Full Version : Joel Polyamorous is a posh word for immorality
Niamh.
26-05-2015, 09:36 AM
Thoughts? Bit judgmental of him I would say. Not that i think Jade actually even is Polyamorous but how is it immoral if someone is honest and upfront about how they are before getting into a relationship with someone?
Liam-
26-05-2015, 09:37 AM
He does come across a bit of a snob tbh, which is disappointing
Vanessa
26-05-2015, 09:38 AM
Thoughts? Bit judgmental of him I would say. Not that i think Jade actually even is Polyamorous but how is immoral if someone is honest and upfront about how they are before getting into a relationship with someone?
I agree with him, because it's basically cheating, even if it's upfront. I think if you're in a relationship you should be faithful.
Lostie!
26-05-2015, 09:39 AM
I agree with him, because it's basically cheating, even if it's upfront. I think if you're in a relationship you should be faithful.
That's exactly why it's not cheating.
I like Joel but I definitely think he was OTT here.
Vanessa
26-05-2015, 09:40 AM
That's exactly why it's not cheating.
I like Joel but I definitely think he was OTT here.
I just don't like the idea of having many people on the go. It seems wrong to me.
Liam-
26-05-2015, 09:42 AM
It's judgments like that which lead people to being apprehensive about being themselves.
I'm a Joel fan, but that really disappointed me, i thought he was better than that.
Niamh.
26-05-2015, 09:42 AM
I agree with him, because it's basically cheating, even if it's upfront. I think if you're in a relationship you should be faithful.
Well no it isn't really, if you start something with someone and tell them that you aren't exclusive then it's up to the other person to either accept that or move on :shrug: It wouldn't be for me and i would move on but monogamy doesn't suit everyone and i would much rather those people who can't do monogamy were upfront about it like that then to hide it and just cheat instead :shrug:
chuff me dizzy
26-05-2015, 09:42 AM
I agree with him,its a license to be a slapper
Vanessa
26-05-2015, 09:43 AM
Well no it isn't really, if you start something with someone and tell them that you aren't exclusive then it's up to the other person to either accept that or move on :shrug: It wouldn't be for me and i would move on but monogamy doesn't suit everyone and i would much rather those people who can't do monogamy were upfront about it like that then to hide it and just cheat instead :shrug:
It seems wrong to me. I don't like it at all.
Lostie!
26-05-2015, 09:44 AM
I just don't like the idea of having many people on the go. It seems wrong to me.
It's definitely not the sort of relationship I'd be interested in, but Jade's open about it and any guy pursuing a relationship with her knows what the deal is and must be okay with it.
just thinkin
26-05-2015, 09:45 AM
the more I watch this girl the more i think she is not polyamourous by choice - :joker: i think when one guy/gal sees through her, she jumps to the next one.
Niamh.
26-05-2015, 09:46 AM
the more I watch this girl the more i think she is not polyamourous by choice - :joker: i think when one guy/gal sees through her, she jumps to the next one.
I don't think she is really either but just take her out of the equation, I mean polyamorous people in general
chuff me dizzy
26-05-2015, 09:48 AM
the more I watch this girl the more i think she is not polyamourous by choice - :joker: i think when one guy/gal sees through her, she jumps to the next one.
Thats what she's done !! she's now onto Cristian ,who needs to back off pretty damn quick
Liam-
26-05-2015, 09:49 AM
Polyamory isn't a 'license' or an excuse to be a 'slapper' or any other derogatory term people want to throw around, it is the acceptance that monogamy isn't for everyone, only people who share that same mind set get into that scene so they obviously know what's happening, so it's not cheating if said partner knows about everything else that is happening and is happy with it.
Polyamory is not for me, I would never get involved in it, but i don't judge people who do believe in it, each to their own.
The constant need to belittle and insult someone just because they happen to think differently to you is disgusting.
As Bill Laswell said 'People are afraid of things they don't understand. They don't know how to relate. It threatens their security, their existence, their career, image.'
Niamh.
26-05-2015, 09:50 AM
Polyamory isn't a 'license' or an excuse to be a 'slapper' or any other derogatory term people want to throw around, it is the acceptance that monogamy isn't for everyone, only people who share that same mind set get into that scene so they obviously know what's happening, so it's not cheating if said partner knows about everything else that is happening and is happy with it.
Polyamory is not for me, I would never get involved in it, but i don't judge people who do believe in it, each to their own.
The constant need to belittle and insult someone just because they happen to think differently to you is disgusting.
As Bill Laswell said 'People are afraid of things they don't understand. They don't know how to relate. It threatens their security, their existence, their career, image.'
:clap2:
Nancy.
26-05-2015, 09:59 AM
He's wrong. Polyamorous is just a nicer way of saying she's a dirty sl*g. It doesn't matter how you dress it up, it all boils down to the same thing.
Ramsay
26-05-2015, 10:01 AM
I see no problem with it, as long as both people involved are up front and know about it.
It's her life, don't judge her for it.
Like in everything else during this BB, Jade is held to a different standard by the house mates and the audience it seems. One rule for the others and another stricter rule for her.
She hasn't done more than cuddle a guy in this BB, by this time last year we had Winston and we had he who shall not be named ready to utter his immortal words.
I get that Jade sets herself up for it a bit, but its only a blinking game show, and she really hasn't done anything wrong :shrug:
Liam-
26-05-2015, 10:03 AM
He's wrong. Polyamorous is just a nicer way of saying she's a dirty sl*g. It doesn't matter how you dress it up, it all boils down to the same thing.
Incorrect, not only that, but vile.
rionablue
26-05-2015, 10:05 AM
Thoughts? Bit judgmental of him I would say. Not that i think Jade actually even is Polyamorous but how is it immoral if someone is honest and upfront about how they are before getting into a relationship with someone?
I totally agree
kirklancaster
26-05-2015, 10:18 AM
Well no it isn't really, if you start something with someone and tell them that you aren't exclusive then it's up to the other person to either accept that or move on :shrug: It wouldn't be for me and i would move on but monogamy doesn't suit everyone and i would much rather those people who can't do monogamy were upfront about it like that then to hide it and just cheat instead :shrug:
I actually agree with this.
alex_front2
26-05-2015, 10:44 AM
Why don't some people believe that Jade is polyamourous or that Adjoa is a lesbian? Noone seems to have any problems believing that Jack is a virgin, Aaron is gay or that Danny is dull.
just thinkin
26-05-2015, 10:46 AM
Polyamory isn't a 'license' or an excuse to be a 'slapper' or any other derogatory term people want to throw around, it is the acceptance that monogamy isn't for everyone, only people who share that same mind set get into that scene so they obviously know what's happening, so it's not cheating if said partner knows about everything else that is happening and is happy with it.
Polyamory is not for me, I would never get involved in it, but i don't judge people who do believe in it, each to their own.
The constant need to belittle and insult someone just because they happen to think differently to you is disgusting.
As Bill Laswell said 'People are afraid of things they don't understand. They don't know how to relate. It threatens their security, their existence, their career, image.'
but we do understand...we understand what polyamorse is and I don't think anyone has a problem with that. we also understand that shady jady is using it as a buzz word to cover any and all 'incident's in the house. She doesn't think differently to anybody else - she has a run of the mill brain - just because you come out with 'buzzwords' like aura, energy, polyamouous, spiritual does not mean you practice it - talk is cheap, actions speak louder.
Believe me, we do understand. :dance:
Niamh.
26-05-2015, 10:47 AM
Why don't some people believe that Jade is polyamourous or that Adjoa is a lesbian? Noone seems to have any problems believing that Jack is a virgin, Aaronis gay or that Danny is dull.
Well the way she described it to the other HMs soon after they went in didn't sound right. She basically said I don't want to commit to one person atm but I will eventually settle down, that isn't polyamorous
Nancy.
26-05-2015, 10:52 AM
Well the way she described it to the other HMs soon after they went in didn't sound right. She basically said I don't want to commit to one person atm but I will eventually settle down, that isn't polyamorous
Exactly.
Jamesy
26-05-2015, 11:02 AM
Yeah the way she tried describing it at the start didn't sound at all convincing.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if she just made it up to audition for Big Brother, just so she stood out of the crowd to the producers (if so it worked).
Either way, whether she's polyamorous or not. I must say she does come across a bit desperate in the house, jumping from one guy to another. Not that there's anything wrong with flirting with multiple people when you're single (everyone does it), but in that house and on this show she's coming across as a bit of a cheap slapper at the moment. Not that I'm being overly judgmental or anything...
DemolitionRed
26-05-2015, 11:18 AM
I am in a polyamorous triad which basically means, there is me, my husband and another female. We remain monogamous (Polyfidelity) within that relationship; meaning we don't sleep around outside of that relationship.
What people often don't understand about polyamory is, its not all about ****ery; its about the ability to be in love more than one person. Where as Jade seems to like other men outside of one relationship and all those men need to be aware that she's seeing others (making it consensual), others, like us, will have more than one permanent lover living in the same household.
I have never been one to accept social norms and I have never been overly possessive or jealous of my partner. I love my partner loving another woman even though I'm madly in love with him...I guess that makes me different than the norm but so what? its not hurting anyone.
just thinkin
26-05-2015, 11:25 AM
fair play demolition - nice explanation.
however shady jady does not feel like that - shady jady feels like 'different people give her different things' as she said in the first week, why should she not go off with somebody else and miss out on an amazing experience by sticking to the one person. Thats not polyamourus - thats 'out for what you can get'.
Also the fact that she says when she does 'find the one' all of this will stop and she will just be with the one person and he will just be with her.
thats not polyamourous or a different lifestyle.
That's just playing the field till something better comes along. she's a plonker.
smudgie
26-05-2015, 11:29 AM
Nice enough lad, a bit pompous at times, he just needs to get laid.
DemolitionRed
26-05-2015, 01:18 PM
fair play demolition - nice explanation.
however shady jady does not feel like that - shady jady feels like 'different people give her different things' as she said in the first week, why should she not go off with somebody else and miss out on an amazing experience by sticking to the one person. Thats not polyamourus - thats 'out for what you can get'.
Also the fact that she says when she does 'find the one' all of this will stop and she will just be with the one person and he will just be with her.
thats not polyamourous or a different lifestyle.
That's just playing the field till something better comes along. she's a plonker.
Thanks Just Thinkin, I just wanted to say something about the part you wrote that I made bold.
One of the main reasons I am in such a relationship/s is, no two people are alike. There are so many things that Chloe brings into my life that Steve can't and again, so many things Steve brings into my life that Chloe couldn't. I don't want to be the lover and partner of two people who have very similar personalities, I want to be the lover and partner of two people who are diversely different, whilst having good appreciation of those differences. The difference between Jade and me is, I need those personalities to merge together without conflict and all compliment each other.
Jade said something interesting at the start of BB. She said this was just something she needed to get out of her system now but would change once she was a little older. Perhaps I'm not comprehending what she means or perhaps I'm right in thinking that Jade is just into open sexual relationships that are neither serious or meaningful. To me this is more representative of swinging without being part of a swingers club.
Saying that, who am I to make judgement!!
RoseGarden
26-05-2015, 01:28 PM
I actually think it was quite unfair of Joel when he said that. The Twins also said something like it was a posh word for being a creep or something like that. Polyamory is just another word for being in an open relationship. If the people in question meet an understanding then I don't see how it is wrong.
As it was previously mentioned, you wouldn't blast Jack for being a Virgin, Aaron for being Gay and Adjoa for being a Lesbian so what gives anyone the right for blasting Polyamory?
To each their own.
mrflibble
26-05-2015, 01:28 PM
I think it's a posh word for 'sleeping around', but I think it's fair enough if he feels having multiple partners is immoral. I couldn't imagine ever having multiple partners, but if everyone is consenting they can do whatever they like and I feel it's totally moral. But I can also understand feeling uncomfortable about the idea - especially at 19 - and I think that's where he's coming from. Until a couple of years ago, I totally rejected the idea of even being with more than one person in your life (now I've softened and don't care so much), so I can definitely understand his way of thinking, but it does come out sounding a bit judgmental.
Crimson Dynamo
26-05-2015, 01:31 PM
he is just calling her a fake. And he is right. She has such a high opinion of herself, its just a way of making her appear interesting but really its just a tiresome way of doing so.
Joel clocked her and good for him
RoseGarden
26-05-2015, 01:31 PM
I am in a polyamorous triad which basically means, there is me, my husband and another female. We remain monogamous (Polyfidelity) within that relationship; meaning we don't sleep around outside of that relationship.
What people often don't understand about polyamory is, its not all about ****ery; its about the ability to be in love more than one person. Where as Jade seems to like other men outside of one relationship and all those men need to be aware that she's seeing others (making it consensual), others, like us, will have more than one permanent lover living in the same household.
I have never been one to accept social norms and I have never been overly possessive or jealous of my partner. I love my partner loving another woman even though I'm madly in love with him...I guess that makes me different than the norm but so what? its not hurting anyone.
Well Said :bigsmile:
Niamh.
26-05-2015, 01:33 PM
he is just calling her a fake. And he is right. She has such a high opinion of herself, its just a way of making her appear interesting but really its just a tiresome way of doing so.
Joel clocked her and good for him
saying that being polyamourous is a posh word for immorality and calling someone a fake aren't even remotely linked :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
26-05-2015, 01:34 PM
saying that being polyamourous is a posh word for immorality and calling someone a fake aren't even remotely linked :laugh:
no :hehe:
i dont suppose they are
..although I don't think Jade is as such and more just doesn't want to commit to a monogamous relationship because she finds other guys attractive while she's seeing someone...I do think that he was completely judgemental in saying that polyamorous was something that was immoral ..he may not agree with it and that's fine, an opinion..but to say it's immoral is casting a judgement that it's in some way wrongful/wicked etc...
Cherie
26-05-2015, 01:43 PM
Why don't some people believe that Jade is polyamourous or that Adjoa is a lesbian? Noone seems to have any problems believing that Jack is a virgin, Aaron is gay or that Danny is dull.
:laugh:
Kizzy
26-05-2015, 01:53 PM
He's a stuck up little fool 'my mum shops at tesco but gives me £30 a week to do my shopping at Waitrose'...
'Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent (Joel) Starling?'
just thinkin
26-05-2015, 02:00 PM
Thanks Just Thinkin, I just wanted to say something about the part you wrote that I made bold.
One of the main reasons I am in such a relationship/s is, no two people are alike. There are so many things that Chloe brings into my life that Steve can't and again, so many things Steve brings into my life that Chloe couldn't. I don't want to be the lover and partner of two people who have very similar personalities, I want to be the lover and partner of two people who are diversely different, whilst having good appreciation of those differences. The difference between Jade and me is, I need those personalities to merge together without conflict and all compliment each other.
Jade said something interesting at the start of BB. She said this was just something she needed to get out of her system now but would change once she was a little older. Perhaps I'm not comprehending what she means or perhaps I'm right in thinking that Jade is just into open sexual relationships that are neither serious or meaningful. To me this is more representative of swinging without being part of a swingers club.
Saying that, who am I to make judgement!!
she was very certain that when she found 'the one' that all this polyamouris stuff would stop. If you go around telling people you are polyamourus you must believe in it - it must be part of your lifestyle - it is not something that you can say you live your life by, but oh wait...when you find 'the one' it will all change. If you are polyamours you would tend to gravitate towards people who are like minded. You cannot then say, actually I want to stop now and you should too - because that's the reason you met in the first place. She's a faker- don't get me wrong I am very open minded and have no problem with being polyamouris, or anything else a person wants to be, but Jade thinks she can pull the wool over people's eyes by her words - her actions tell the exact opposite.
Braden
26-05-2015, 02:02 PM
I think he said it for the sake of having an opinion.
It's quite funny how he's been really suspicious of her ever since the crowd member shouted 'Get Jade out!'. He probably said in hope that it would be shown (because it was a pretty harsh thing to say) so people could see that he's not fond of her.
I think he's a bit false tbh, and I'm glad Danny nominated him for that reason.
just thinkin
26-05-2015, 02:07 PM
I actually think it was quite unfair of Joel when he said that. The Twins also said something like it was a posh word for being a creep or something like that. Polyamory is just another word for being in an open relationship. If the people in question meet an understanding then I don't see how it is wrong.
As it was previously mentioned, you wouldn't blast Jack for being a Virgin, Aaron for being Gay and Adjoa for being a Lesbian so what gives anyone the right for blasting Polyamory?
To each their own.
the fact that you have a woman spouting that she is polyamouous to people who have never heard it before, and she doesn't actually know what it means herself might have something to do with how they see it. As I said in a post at the start of the show, there is an old-fashioned word for it - its called swinging. Nothing wrong with that either. Its not a new concept - it's as old as the world. Jade is just playing the field until she settles down - what mostly every other person her age is doing since time began.
Absorption
26-05-2015, 02:23 PM
saying that being polyamourous is a posh word for immorality and calling someone a fake aren't even remotely linked :laugh:
Exactly.
I think some of Joel's opinions are dry-runs for his intended career in politics and since he's a Conservative he would probably rather people thought of him as being disapproving of such a lifestyle. (We won't get into what many Tory MPs like to do when no-one's watching...)
RoseGarden
26-05-2015, 02:35 PM
Exactly.
I think some of Joel's opinions are dry-runs for his intended career in politics and since he's a Conservative he would probably rather people thought of him as being disapproving of such a lifestyle. (We won't get into what many Tory MPs like to do when no-one's watching...)
It isn't very wise though is it? Wouldn't it be better to abstain from controversial opinions if you were intending on being in politics? Lol not a very good soundbite haha :laugh:
Absorption
26-05-2015, 02:39 PM
It isn't very wise though is it? Wouldn't it be better to abstain from controversial opinions if you were intending on being in politics? Lol not a very good soundbite haha :laugh:
To be charitable, he is very young.
But, yes, you're right! :laugh:
Mind you, if he changed his political persuasion I wouldn't rule him out getting the Labour leadership role...
rionablue
26-05-2015, 03:12 PM
she was very certain that when she found 'the one' that all this polyamouris stuff would stop. If you go around telling people you are polyamourus you must believe in it - it must be part of your lifestyle - it is not something that you can say you live your life by, but oh wait...when you find 'the one' it will all change. If you are polyamours you would tend to gravitate towards people who are like minded. You cannot then say, actually I want to stop now and you should too - because that's the reason you met in the first place. She's a faker- don't get me wrong I am very open minded and have no problem with being polyamouris, or anything else a person wants to be, but Jade thinks she can pull the wool over people's eyes by her words - her actions tell the exact opposite.
Actually I know a girl who had multiple relationships (both agreed by her and her partners) and in her early thirties she met someone and got married and the guy know about her past and was ok with it as he had no doubt had a lot of relationships not all at the same time. So maybe this disproves your point that she should stay that way always, By the way this girl was not promiscuous or overly sexual or anything. It just suited her and both she and her partners were happy to accept that. Its a good thing to be open with someone when you start a relationship rather than doing what a lot of people do CHEAT BEHIND their partners back
Shaun
26-05-2015, 03:14 PM
I'd say she's more emotionally immature rather than immoral.
just thinkin
26-05-2015, 03:18 PM
Actually I know a girl who had multiple relationships (both agreed by her and her partners) and in her early thirties she met someone and got married and the guy know about her past and was ok with it as he had no doubt had a lot of relationships not all at the same time. So maybe this disproves your point that she should stay that way always, By the way this girl was not promiscuous or overly sexual or anything. It just suited her and both she and her partners were happy to accept that. Its a good thing to be open with someone when you start a relationship rather than doing what a lot of people do CHEAT BEHIND their partners back
fair enough, but funnily enough Jade didn't meet somebody to change her mind and settle down - she already knows that when's she's finished playing the field she will settle down with one person - thats not polyamourus - thats playing the field like all young people do before they settle down. She's made a bit of a plonker out of herself really. if she really was polygamous she wouldn't even be thinking about settling down with one person.
arista
26-05-2015, 03:25 PM
I agree with him,its a license to be a slapper
Yes Chuff
a Slapper
a Right Slapper
Sign Of The Times
chuff me dizzy
26-05-2015, 03:29 PM
he is just calling her a fake. And he is right. She has such a high opinion of herself, its just a way of making her appear interesting but really its just a tiresome way of doing so.
Joel clocked her and good for him
:clap1: Im sure she thinks if she tells us often enough how wonderful she is, we may believe her !!
chuff me dizzy
26-05-2015, 03:30 PM
Yes Chuff
a Slapper
a Right Slapper
Sign Of The Times
Arista as you know Im nothing if not 100% honest :joker:
Pink Pegasus
26-05-2015, 03:48 PM
fair enough, but funnily enough Jade didn't meet somebody to change her mind and settle down - she already knows that when's she's finished playing the field she will settle down with one person - thats not polyamourus - thats playing the field like all young people do before they settle down. She's made a bit of a plonker out of herself really. if she really was polygamous she wouldn't even be thinking about settling down with one person.
Yeah that's what I questioned about her explanation too. She also described it as "just a phase" whilst it was my understanding that it was a lifelong belief somebody had (or at least thought it would be lifelong and didn't think of it as just a phase). She contradicted herself too when in the one conversation she said she believed you can absolutely love more than one person but then went on to say something like she believes you can actually have only one soulmate/true love (?) and that she would marry that person. She was "free to the bone" but at the same time wants one day to settle, marry and be completely monogamous to that one person and for them to be completely monogamous to her.
I think she was just simply describing that she is young, doesn't want to settle yet and is into open relationships. Nothing wrong with that and she definitely doesn't deserve to get called nasty names because of it.
I don't think what she described was genuine polyamory though because she said it was just a phase and contradicted herself a few times. (I could be wrong though)
I think she just used the word polyamory for attention or else to sound interesting or different in the audition process but she just came across sounding a bit silly to me.
Not too keen on the word "immoral" in this instance myself though. It does sound very judgemental to me, but I suppose he's entitled to his belief's too. I wouldn't agree with him though that it was "immoral".
armand.kay
26-05-2015, 03:55 PM
why are people so censored about what she does with her sexuality? maybe people should focus on their own relationships and stop being so judgmental.
RoseGarden
26-05-2015, 04:26 PM
To be charitable, he is very young.
But, yes, you're right! :laugh:
Mind you, if he changed his political persuasion I wouldn't rule him out getting the Labour leadership role...
Haha unfortunately (or fortunately??) for me, I am Irish and have no clue about British politics lol
:D :laugh::laugh:
I would be checking it regularly for crabs.
Absorption
27-05-2015, 12:22 PM
Haha unfortunately (or fortunately??) for me, I am Irish and have no clue about British politics lol
:D :laugh::laugh:
Okay, you're elected to Parliament!
crazycolaist
27-05-2015, 12:31 PM
Who are you to judge the word immorality? Our morality is based on the 10 commandments & adultery is one of them but in 2015 the defenition of adultery has completly changed and is so less religious because people are finding out one cannot judge on another for trying to live the path whats set out for themselves when its easier to just let us all live the way we want without the obvious coming from that commandments)
Nancy.
27-05-2015, 01:19 PM
the fact that you have a woman spouting that she is polyamouous to people who have never heard it before, and she doesn't actually know what it means herself might have something to do with how they see it. As I said in a post at the start of the show, there is an old-fashioned word for it - its called swinging. Nothing wrong with that either. Its not a new concept - it's as old as the world. Jade is just playing the field until she settles down - what mostly every other person her age is doing since time began.
:clap1: :clap1:
jennyjuniper
27-05-2015, 01:29 PM
If Jade really believes that she wants to spread herself around (her choice, not that I agree with it) Then why does she close herself and that person off to everyone else as she did with Nick?
joeysteele
27-05-2015, 01:31 PM
Personally I would not condemn her for her position on this, it is her life after all and also the views she holds as to relationships.
However,his view of it, is also his views and he therefore. for me anyway, has the right to say what he thinks as to it too.
Once she had revealed that was her take on relationships, that opened up discussion from others as to their feelings on the issue too.
Had she kept it to herself,that would have been different.
Personally, I would be more in agreement with him while completely accepting others must live their lives for them and not others.
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2015, 03:05 PM
i cant see anyone wanting to shag her at all
as she is f uckingannoyingamous
Mokka
27-05-2015, 03:13 PM
If Jade really believes that she wants to spread herself around (her choice, not that I agree with it) Then why does she close herself and that person off to everyone else as she did with Nick?
Because she isn't truly Polyamourous... she doesn't have an open heart of love... she is a dry bitter before her time young girl who needs to get a dictionary before giving herself labels and airs.
Nancy.
27-05-2015, 03:23 PM
i cant see anyone wanting to shag her at all
Me neither. She'd be ideal for the type of bloke that enjoys a 3 minute fumble in the dark or back of the car, but you wouldn't want take her home to introduce to your family.
Chero
28-05-2015, 05:06 AM
Well, based on what Joel thinks is moral, I think it's a fair call.
Not only that, but for Jade, I get the impression that she doesn't just have open relationships, but that she uses sex with people to get where she wants to go. Definitely an immoral way to go about things, imo. I'm not judging someone who has one night stands, or friends with benefits, but frankly, looking at her, I'm wondering about how she would get work as a model otherwise.
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