Too much Jade hate? Get EILEEN out !

[Robodog]

Sure Jade is a bit full of herself and has a whiny voice but the amount of hate towards her from certain HMs and the BOTS mob is just ridiculous.

Ok so she bitched about the twins during her 'noms talk' with Nick (nothing unusual - everyone talks about everyone in there right?) - but they haven't stopped bitching about HER ever since. And it's FAR more than she ever said about them - is that not worse than Jade?

Seems like twins and Eileen have been waiting for a moment to pounce on Jade and her 'noms talk' punishment gave them all the excuse they needed.

Since then it's been open season and it's suddenly now 'ok' for everyone to hate Jade.

Then you get the BOTS crowd join in. It's horrible to watch. I love BB but i hate it when everyone gangs up on a HM without really thinking it through.

When you break it down, Eileen is much more poisonous than Jade. Jade says what she thinks and leaves it there, she's in her own bubble and is not out to influence people.

But Eileen on the other hand tries very, very hard to rally troops around her, to turn people's minds into hating whoever SHE hates - and she does it very cleverly by hiding her bitching in a smile - or by turning on the tears "oh i'm so upset by what Jade/Kieron said etc".

This is classic bitch tactics - using tears to get sympathy and attention and then dropping those little poisonous seeds to make others hate the people who 'hurt' you.

Linda Nolan did the same thing against Jim for example.

Plus - look how Eileen LIED to Aaron about Jade making the first comment after they nominated in the DR. How sneaky is she???

Eileen came out with the 'my first one was easy comment' - clearly meaning Jade. Then when Jade defended against it saying hers was a walk in the park too, Eileen is now acting 'so upset' by Jade's comment.

But EILEEN FIRED THE FIRST SHOT !

I'm no great Jade fan but Eileen is proper devious and is subtly poisoning HMs much like Pauline did against Jale/Chris etc last year. (it's not an 'older woman' thing, it's just a similar tactic they both have of sugar-coating the poison pellets.)

Jade's annoying in many ways but she's not sneaky. Eileen is.

GET EILEEN OUT !

[Cherie]

Sure Jade is a bit full of herself and has a whiny voice but the amount of hate towards her from certain HMs and the BOTS mob is just ridiculous.

Ok so she bitched about the twins during her 'noms talk' with Nick (nothing unusual - everyone talks about everyone in there right?) - but they haven't stopped bitching about HER ever since. And it's FAR more than she ever said about them - is that not worse than Jade?

Seems like twins and Eileen have been waiting for a moment to pounce on Jade and her 'noms talk' punishment gave them all the excuse they needed.

Since then it's been open season and it's suddenly now 'ok' for everyone to hate Jade.

Then you get the BOTS crowd join in. It's horrible to watch. I love BB but i hate it when everyone gangs up on a HM without really thinking it through.

When you break it down, Eileen is much more poisonous than Jade. Jade says what she thinks and leaves it there, she's in her own bubble and is not out to influence people.

But Eileen on the other hand tries very, very hard to rally troops around her, to turn people's minds into hating whoever SHE hates - and she does it very cleverly by hiding her bitching in a smile - or by turning on the tears "oh i'm so upset by what Jade/Kieron said etc".

This is classic bitch tactics - using tears to get sympathy and attention and then dropping those little poisonous seeds to make others hate the people who 'hurt' you.

Linda Nolan did the same thing against Jim for example.

Plus - look how Eileen LIED to Aaron about Jade making the first comment after they nominated in the DR. How sneaky is she???

Eileen came out with the 'my first one was easy comment' - clearly meaning Jade. Then when Jade defended against it saying hers was a walk in the park too, Eileen is now acting 'so upset' by Jade's comment.

But EILEEN FIRED THE FIRST SHOT !

I'm no great Jade fan but Eileen is proper devious and is subtly poisoning HMs much like Pauline did against Jale/Chris etc last year. (it's not an 'older woman' thing, it's just a similar tactic they both have of sugar-coating the poison pellets.)

Jade's annoying in many ways but she's not sneaky. Eileen is.

GET EILEEN OUT !



:cheer2:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Sure Jade is a bit full of herself and has a whiny voice but the amount of hate towards her from certain HMs and the BOTS mob is just ridiculous.

Ok so she bitched about the twins during her 'noms talk' with Nick (nothing unusual - everyone talks about everyone in there right?) - but they haven't stopped bitching about HER ever since. And it's FAR more than she ever said about them - is that not worse than Jade?

Seems like twins and Eileen have been waiting for a moment to pounce on Jade and her 'noms talk' punishment gave them all the excuse they needed.

Since then it's been open season and it's suddenly now 'ok' for everyone to hate Jade.

Then you get the BOTS crowd join in. It's horrible to watch. I love BB but i hate it when everyone gangs up on a HM without really thinking it through.

When you break it down, Eileen is much more poisonous than Jade. Jade says what she thinks and leaves it there, she's in her own bubble and is not out to influence people.

But Eileen on the other hand tries very, very hard to rally troops around her, to turn people's minds into hating whoever SHE hates - and she does it very cleverly by hiding her bitching in a smile - or by turning on the tears "oh i'm so upset by what Jade/Kieron said etc".

This is classic bitch tactics - using tears to get sympathy and attention and then dropping those little poisonous seeds to make others hate the people who 'hurt' you.

Linda Nolan did the same thing against Jim for example.

Plus - look how Eileen LIED to Aaron about Jade making the first comment after they nominated in the DR. How sneaky is she???

Eileen came out with the 'my first one was easy comment' - clearly meaning Jade. Then when Jade defended against it saying hers was a walk in the park too, Eileen is now acting 'so upset' by Jade's comment.

But EILEEN FIRED THE FIRST SHOT !

I'm no great Jade fan but Eileen is proper devious and is subtly poisoning HMs much like Pauline did against Jale/Chris etc last year. (it's not an 'older woman' thing, it's just a similar tactic they both have of sugar-coating the poison pellets.)

Jade's annoying in many ways but she's not sneaky. Eileen is.

GET EILEEN OUT !

I thought Aaron asked her if she said "walk in the park" line, which Eileen said no to which is correct because Jade said the line even though she is saying Eileen said it. Highlights showed who is the liar in this case, and her name is JADE.

[Vanessa]

Get Jade the lair out. :nono:

[just thinkin]

get jade out,, get jade out...off off off off off off:dance:

[Liam-]

Yeah I've steadily gone off of Eileen over the past couple of days, i hope she goes before Jade and any of the other girls

[waterhog]

jade is no threat - she will go just not yet - rid the bores hello aarron and christian.

[Pete.]

Get neither out omg save the show

[Pete.]

Nice to see Linda still at the forefront of people's minds still

[LukeB]

No get aaron or cristian out

[Vanessa]

Jade has to go.

[Liam-]

Jade has to go.

And get rid of the person creating most of the highlights? nah, we need to sacrifice the wall paper first, aka, Cristian.

[Vanessa]

And get rid of the person creating most of the highlights? nah, we need to sacrifice the wall paper first, aka, Cristian.

No, get Jade out. :dance:

[Liam-]

Jade forever slaying the bores :clap1:

[Lostie!]

No get aaron or cristian out

:clap1:

Even though I'm supporting Eileen, Jade isn't among my least favourites. There's worse than her in there atm.

[jennyjuniper]

Jade not sneaky? What about the bitchfest in the storeroom with her coven? Jade has tried to play the martyr and underdog since day one.
Eileen is no saint either. She too does her fair share of bitching, but I think the real reason Jade can't stand Eileen, is that from the first Eileen has been able to see through Jade's fake tears to the manipulator beneath.

[Nancy.]

I thought Aaron asked her if she said "walk in the park" line, which Eileen said no to which is correct because Jade said the line even though she is saying Eileen said it. Highlights showed who is the liar in this case, and her name is JADE.

Exactly.

I was going to address this in a lenthy post later on (when I have time). People really do enjoy twisting the truth, don't they?

[smiley55]

eileen is a liar and a sneak, I we saw that last night when aaron questioned her.

[Nancy.]

eileen is a liar and a sneak, I we saw that last night when aaron questioned her.

Aaron asked her "Did you say your nominations were a walk in the park" and she said "No" - which was true.

People need to clean the wax out of their ears.

and Aaron really needs to stop adding fuel to the fire. He's been running backwards and forwards to different people relaying private conversations. He needs to shut his hole and keep out of arguments he isn't involved in.

[Vanessa]

Aaron asked her "Did you say your nominations were a walk in the park" and she said "No" - which was true.

People need to clean the wax out of their ears.

and Aaron really needs to stop adding fuel to the fire. He's been running backwards and forward to different people relaying private conversations. He needs to shut his hole and keep out of arguments he isn't involved in.

That's right. Jade is the liar. Eileen was telling the truth and we all saw it.

[Robodog]

Exactly.

I was going to address this in a lenthy post later on (when I have time). People really do enjoy twisting the truth, don't they?

Jade said 'walk in the park' yes

But Eileen said 'my first one was easy'

Who made the first bitchy comment?

Eileen!

If it wasn't for Eileen's bitchy comment then Jade would never have said that in response.

Eileen when talking to Aaron etc made out like Jade started it and Eileen was 'oh so innocent'. Bullocks.

So not only did Eileen lie, she started it all !

I'm not great Jade fan but i cannot stand to see injustice and watch liars get away with it.

So Eileen out !!


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[mizzy25]

I prefer Jade to Eileen I cant stand the stupid faces shes pulls and the fact she constantly talks about her age, she is old (ish) ffs shes 50/51 im 48 and Im old lol

[Nancy.]

Jade said 'walk in the park' yes

But Eileen said 'my first one was easy'

Who made the first bitchy comment?

Eileen!

If it wasn't for Eileen's bitchy comment then Jade would never have said that.

Eileen when talking to Aaron etc made out like Jade started it and Eileen was 'oh so innocent'. Bullocks.

So not only did Eileen lie, she started it all !


But that's not what Aaron asked, was it?
If I remember correctly she told him about her "My first one was easy" comment. So no, she didn't lie.

[Robodog]

But that's not what Aaron asked, was it?
If I remember correctly she told him about her "My first one was easy" comment. So no, she didn't lie.

Yes but you are splitting hairs here.

Aaron's REAL concern was who started it - it didn't matter which one said 'walk in the park' and which one said 'mine was easy'.

All Aaron wanted to know was who started it, who fired the first bitchy shot?

So who was it that started it?

It was Eileen with her 'mine was easy' comment - we all saw it on the cameras. Jade's 'walk in the park' was just a response to Eileen's comment.

But Eileen made out that Jade started the whole thing and that Eileen was the innocent party! That was sneaky and a very clever way to repackage the truth - ie lying.

It even fooled you by the sounds of it!

If BB played the whole 'mine was easy - walk in the park' conversation on the screens then Aaron would think very differently to what Eileen told him.


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[Pete.]

Jade forever slaying the bores :clap1:
Only Legend J

[smiley55]

eileen made it look like she was innocent in that conversation, she wasnt! hm are begining to see her for what she is. house wolud be better without her.

[Tarryn]

Yes but you are splitting hairs here.

Aaron's REAL concern was who started it - it didn't matter which one said 'walk in the park' and which one said 'mine was easy'.

All Aaron wanted to know was who started it, who fired the first bitchy shot?

So who was it that started it?

It was Eileen with her 'mine was easy' comment - we all saw it on the cameras. Jade's 'walk in the park' was just a response to Eileen's comment.

But Eileen made out that Jade started the whole thing and that Eileen was the innocent party! That was sneaky and a very clever way to repackage the truth - ie lying.

It even fooled you by the sounds of it!

If BB played the whole 'mine was easy - walk in the park' conversation on the screens then Aaron would think very differently to what Eileen told him.


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First, Aaron's only real concern is himself. He just wanted a bit of gossip, nothing else.
Second, Jade's comment that BOTH her noms were a "walk in the park" were far more bitchy.
Are we really trying to justify Jade's behaviour by trying to make out that Eileen is worse ?!.
If Jade goes Friday it's only Jade's fault.
HM's like Harriet & Sarah are turning against Eileen as she is an easy target.
Aaron's question was who said "Walk in the park". Eileen told the truth.

[Nancy.]

First, Aaron's only real concern is himself. He just wanted a bit of gossip, nothing else.
Second, Jade's comment that BOTH her noms were a "walk in the park" were far more bitchy.
Are we really trying to justify Jade's behaviour by trying to make out that Eileen is worse ?!.
If Jade goes Friday it's only Jade's fault.
HM's like Harriet & Sarah are turning against Eileen as she is an easy target.
Aaron's question was who said "Walk in the park". Eileen told the truth.

:clap1:

People in here seem to have forgotten (or rather ignored) everything Jade's been doing in the house since day 1. Eileen shouldn't have said what she did but Jade should have remained quiet instead of trying to score points. She's only dug herself into a deeper hole. Eileen started this argument but Jade was the one who ignited the fued.

It all started when Eileen questioned Jade's ridiculous notion that only good things could happen to her (Jade) if she was positive (mainly towards herself).
Eileen said "Negative things happen to innocent people" and Jade didn't have an answer to that. She didn't expect to be called out on her rubbish and she's had it in for Eileen ever since.

[Vanessa]

I'm no Eileen fan, but she didn't like. Jade did.

[Tarryn]

But during the talk between Aaron & Eileen last night when Harriet & Chloe were listening, Eileen listed a few HM's who she said she loved & yet again her words were twisted when they went to Sarah & said "Eileen did not mention she loved you". They were totally stirring it to make Eileen look bad.
Eileen has become a real target for no reason.

[Vanessa]

But during the talk between Aaron & Eileen last night when Harriet & Chloe were listening, Eileen listed a few HM's who she said she loved & yet again her words were twisted when they went to Sarah & said "Eileen did not mention she loved you". They were totally stirring it to make Eileen look bad.
Eileen has become a real target for no reason.

This!

[Nancy.]

But during the talk between Aaron & Eileen last night when Harriet & Chloe were listening, Eileen listed a few HM's who she said she loved & yet again her words were twisted when they went to Sarah & said "Eileen did not mention she loved you". They were totally stirring it to make Eileen look bad.
Eileen has become a real target for no reason.

Yep. Did they really expect her to name every single person in the house (bar jade)? If the shoe was on the other foot, I doubt Harriet would have mentioned Eileen. It's all just so petty.

[Vanessa]

They all have people they like and people they don't like. It's normal.

[rionablue]

Sure Jade is a bit full of herself and has a whiny voice but the amount of hate towards her from certain HMs and the BOTS mob is just ridiculous.

Ok so she bitched about the twins during her 'noms talk' with Nick (nothing unusual - everyone talks about everyone in there right?) - but they haven't stopped bitching about HER ever since. And it's FAR more than she ever said about them - is that not worse than Jade?

Seems like twins and Eileen have been waiting for a moment to pounce on Jade and her 'noms talk' punishment gave them all the excuse they needed.

Since then it's been open season and it's suddenly now 'ok' for everyone to hate Jade.

Then you get the BOTS crowd join in. It's horrible to watch. I love BB but i hate it when everyone gangs up on a HM without really thinking it through.

When you break it down, Eileen is much more poisonous than Jade. Jade says what she thinks and leaves it there, she's in her own bubble and is not out to influence people.

But Eileen on the other hand tries very, very hard to rally troops around her, to turn people's minds into hating whoever SHE hates - and she does it very cleverly by hiding her bitching in a smile - or by turning on the tears "oh i'm so upset by what Jade/Kieron said etc".

This is classic bitch tactics - using tears to get sympathy and attention and then dropping those little poisonous seeds to make others hate the people who 'hurt' you.

Linda Nolan did the same thing against Jim for example.

Plus - look how Eileen LIED to Aaron about Jade making the first comment after they nominated in the DR. How sneaky is she???

Eileen came out with the 'my first one was easy comment' - clearly meaning Jade. Then when Jade defended against it saying hers was a walk in the park too, Eileen is now acting 'so upset' by Jade's comment.

But EILEEN FIRED THE FIRST SHOT !

I'm no great Jade fan but Eileen is proper devious and is subtly poisoning HMs much like Pauline did against Jale/Chris etc last year. (it's not an 'older woman' thing, it's just a similar tactic they both have of sugar-coating the poison pellets.)

Jade's annoying in many ways but she's not sneaky. Eileen is.

GET EILEEN OUT !

Very well thought out and laid out post dog. And I totally agree :dance::dance::dance::wavey::wavey:

[crazycolaist]

I like Jade but aaron lied about what was said so Aaron should get out. Eileen vs Jade could be the new Rylan vs Speidi war haha. I respect Eileen & Jade the same to be fair both very intelligent people. I get her way of relationships (Its huge & pretty accepted in the gay world) & Eileen is very creative and artistic & If we had more actual women like both of them then the world would be a greater place because I mean look at Sarah, Such a bad aspect for woman in terms of dignity & being a good human being let alone civillian of the world nor housemate of the BBUK house. You get me?

[susie q]

Even without Eileens comments or views, I would still want Jade out. Personally Im completely bored with her attention seeking/ego tripping behaviour, and dont even get me started on the polyamorous malarky. She really is a pale imitation of far superior bb divas,
like Gina, Deanna, Ashleigh and of course Noirin. So no matter what Eileen or any other housemate says, for me its still get JADE OUT.

[Vanessa]

Even without Eileens comments or views, I would still want Jade out. Personally Im completely bored with her attention seeking/ego tripping behaviour, and dont even get me started on the polyamorous malarky. She really is a pale imitation of far superior bb divas,
like Gina, Deanna, Ashleigh and of course Noirin. So no matter what Eileen or any other housemate says, for me its still get JADE OUT.

:clap1:

[Absorption]

Yes but you are splitting hairs here.

Aaron's REAL concern was who started it - it didn't matter which one said 'walk in the park' and which one said 'mine was easy'.

All Aaron wanted to know was who started it, who fired the first bitchy shot?

So who was it that started it?

It was Eileen with her 'mine was easy' comment - we all saw it on the cameras. Jade's 'walk in the park' was just a response to Eileen's comment.

But Eileen made out that Jade started the whole thing and that Eileen was the innocent party! That was sneaky and a very clever way to repackage the truth - ie lying.

It even fooled you by the sounds of it!

If BB played the whole 'mine was easy - walk in the park' conversation on the screens then Aaron would think very differently to what Eileen told him.


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Exactly.

I wonder if Eileen's supposed popularity would continue if she weren't being adopted as the 'anti-Jade' figurehead?

[kefln]

dont even get me started on the polyamorous malarky.
Isn't that just a fancy way of saying she doesn't do relationships and likes to sleep with whoever she wants?

Cristian said he was a "ladies-man" and Danny said that his ideal night out is getting drunk with the lads and bringing women back to the hotel. Surely that's the same thing?

I can't remember which night, but early on a few of the lads sat around the pictures of the HM's talking about which one they could work on. And that if they got attention from HM X, then HM Y would come running.

Looks to me like a lot of the 20 somethings are acting like 20 somethings.

[kefln]

I don't think anyone has really done anything in the house to be branded a "liar", to receive boos or be openly disliked.

They are all pretty tame. Cracks are appearing and there have been a few tiffs, but its all petty stuff.

Cristian seems to have the attention of a goldfish and seems to get upset about little or nothing. Danny, Harriet and Sarah seem to be hot heads, but not offensively so. And Jack got all upset and ranty because he wasn't picked by Jade to enjoy the food on Friday. Thats about it.

All small stuff.

[Nancy.]

Exactly.

I wonder if Eileen's supposed popularity would continue if she weren't being adopted as the 'anti-Jade' figurehead?

I've loved Eileen since day 1 and my reasons for disliking Jade doesn't have anything to do with Eileen.

Susiq (above) said it perfectly.

[sungrass]

Eileen - what more is she going to offer? She is not interesting. She does not inspire debate about anything rather than her age. She is really quite boring. So is Danny.

Jade - awful person - but interesting. Not only that but the reaction in the house if she stays would be brilliant.

Also Harriet is brewing with Joel - these are potential interesting things - why do the public always want to get rid of the people who are fighters/stand their ground, have a bit of spark? Aaron is weird. I ve never met anyone like him - thats why to me he is interesting to watch.

Eileen is bland. She has had her time - thats all she has

[Tarryn]

Eileen - what more is she going to offer? She is not interesting. She does not inspire debate about anything rather than her age. She is really quite boring. So is Danny.

Jade - awful person - but interesting. Not only that but the reaction in the house if she stays would be brilliant.

Also Harriet is brewing with Joel - these are potential interesting things - why do the public always want to get rid of the people who are fighters/stand their ground, have a bit of spark? Aaron is weird. I ve never met anyone like him - thats why to me he is interesting to watch.

Eileen is bland. She has had her time - thats all she has

If you are saying evict Eileen because you think she is bland then the likes of Sarah & Danny should go too. They have not done anything of note yet.
Jade has gone for Eileen since day one for no real reason. I would like Jade to stay only because I think it will bring more interesting arguments. But Jade is not a nice person. I have yet to see anything nasty about Eileen.

[sungrass]

If you are saying evict Eileen because you think she is bland then the likes of Sarah & Danny should go too. They have not done anything of note yet.
Jade has gone for Eileen since day one for no real reason. I would like Jade to stay only because I think it will bring more interesting arguments. But Jade is not a nice person. I have yet to see anything nasty about Eileen.

Yeah of the ones to go - even though they are nice people

Its Kieran, Danny and Eileen.

Sarah is charismatic/interesting.

Kieran/Danny/Eileen - they are too normal/boring.


Its not about 'nice people winning' for me anymore.
I prefer people to win that are entertaining/interesting because otherwise the show is excruciatingly boring to watch - I am over the tasks and the twists. I wish it would stick to normal format - and bring in some comedy.

Im not saying I want nasty people to win - the truth is they are all decent people this year - they are all nice - ESPECIALLY compared to last year -

So when it comes down to it - it has to be decided on an entertainment value this year.

[JTM45]

Jade isn't 'nice' nor is Harriet!!!!

You contradict yourself!:bored:

[Robodog]

When Pauline was in the house last year, most of the HMs thought she was this wise, warm mother figure. But she used that to her advantage, gathering her family/troops around her and very subtly turning them against her enemies (Jale, Chris etc). We on the outside could see through it and the only HM on the IN-side who could see through it too was Chris (which is why he nominated her when he was the power HM)

Eileen has a very similar tactic in the house. The way she smiles, acts innocent, acts hurt and then when she has her audience - bang - she drops the poison seeds in the minds of her listeners.

She's done it about Jade and Kieron.

It's not an age thing - but her and Pauline have that very same tactic. I see it in people in 'real life' all the time in offices, in families, in schools etc.

That kind of person is toxic to a group dynamic. But the majority don't realise it until that toxic person is removed.

Last year when Pauline was evicted, suddenly the whole house opened up and individuals became more relaxed and more able to express themselves without feeling the shadow of Pauline's judgment hanging over them.

The same thing will happen when Eileen is evicted (though Pauline was worse to be fair).

[Tarryn]

Yeah of the ones to go - even though they are nice people

Its Kieran, Danny and Eileen.

Sarah is charismatic/interesting.

Kieran/Danny/Eileen - they are too normal/boring.


Its not about 'nice people winning' for me anymore.
I prefer people to win that are entertaining/interesting because otherwise the show is excruciatingly boring to watch - I am over the tasks and the twists. I wish it would stick to normal format - and bring in some comedy.

Im not saying I want nasty people to win - the truth is they are all decent people this year - they are all nice - ESPECIALLY compared to last year -

So when it comes down to it - it has to be decided on an entertainment value this year.

Agreed. I want the interesting HM's to stay until the final THEN watch the look on their face when they don't win :evilgrin:

[Heaven = Winner]

GET EILEEN OUT !

Absolutely not.

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[hijaxers]

Jade has to go.

She's a goer alright !

[Amy Jade]

I like em both, they're providing entertainment.

I want non entities like Chloe, Kieran, Danny and Jole out first

[MrWong]

People in here seem to have forgotten (or rather ignored) everything Jade's been doing in the house since day 1. Eileen shouldn't have said what she did but Jade should have remained quiet instead of trying to score points. She's only dug herself into a deeper hole. Eileen started this argument but Jade was the one who ignited the fued.

Should Eileen remain quiet or just Jade?

I think Eileen looks ridiculous squabbling with someone half her age.