Ben Frow says the live feed won't return until the show gets 5 million viewers

[Beetlejuice]

oathy on Digital Spy who has been corresponding with Ben Frow for a while has posted this on DS...

Ben frow refused to confirm or deny.
only saying "lets hope the 4 new HM's inject some drama into the house".
He also confirmed a live feed would only come back if viewing numbers were around 5/6 million which means its never coming back. Whilst he accepted it does provide enhancements it simply isn't viable anymore. I just wonder why for nearly 3 months talk of a live feed on MTV was openly talked about by both companies.

But just to confirm I did ask directly was the rumour of the show being pulled early and he didn't answer

5/6 million viewers :laugh:

It never got that when it was on Channel 4! And how can a show that many feel doesn't work without the live coverage even hope to achieve those sort of figures?

For years this guy was stringing oathy along with the possibility of the live feed returning and now he says this.

Just axe the show. Axe it. And bury it.

[reece(:]

Ben Frow needs to not keep getting people's hopes up for nothing. As if the show is EVER gonna get 5/6 mill on C5.

[Glenn.]

I s2g if I see the word 'axe' again I'm going to commit.

[Beetlejuice]

I s2g if I see the word 'axe' again I'm going to commit.

:crazy:

[Jack_]

http://www.raymears.com/_rm_pictures_/Gransfors-Outdoor-Axe1.jpg it

[T*]

hes insane

[T*]

I s2g if I see the word 'axe' again I'm going to commit.

with an axe?

[Glenn.]

So many negative Nancy's on here it's unreal http://i.imgur.com/uWedMpns.jpg

[Lostie!]

Just axe the show. Axe it. And bury it.

Or maybe just watch something else because some of us (albeit apparently a minority) are still enjoying it. :shrug:

[VanessaFeltz.]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL give me what he is drinking please 5 million viewers :D

[Beetlejuice]

Or maybe just watch something else because some of us (albeit apparently a minority) are still enjoying it. :shrug:

You're enjoying this? :laugh:

[Pete.]

Do the late night feed just like BB14

[Lostie!]

You're enjoying this? :laugh:

Yes. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[JoshBB]

if no live feed is that awful for you, just stop watching. bye.

[Liam-]

Honestly, they gave us a bit of live feed after people had petitioned for it and the ratings for it were horrendous, they can't win.

[Glenn.]

The problem is people desperately clinging onto the past

[Beetlejuice]

if no live feed is that awful for you, just stop watching. bye.

You'll all stop watching soon because the show is dead. And it's dead because of the idiots running the channel and the even bigger idiots producing the show.

[Josy]

They would make a decent amount of money if they provided LF online but Oh Well just another thing taking away from the whole concept of what the show USED to be.

Its so dumb that everything that made the show so popular in the early days are the exact things that they wont give us any more and they wonder why the ratings are getting worse?

[Glenn.]

K then we'll see you on the other side bye

[Beetlejuice]

The problem is people desperately clinging onto the past

The problem is the show DOES NOT WORK without it. You do realize this programme is dying in front of you don't you?

[LukeB]

if no live feed is that awful for you, just stop watching. bye.

Live feed is needed though

[Glenn.]

The problem is the show DOES NOT WORK without it. You do realize this programme is dying in front of you don't you?

Tbh I just don't care enough to cry about it so I just enjoy it for what it is.

[Lostie!]

You'll all stop watching soon because the show is dead. And it's dead because of the idiots running the channel and the even bigger idiots producing the show.

Nope, I don't think I will. I don't see the show going for many more years anyway so I may as well stick around.

[Beetlejuice]

Yes. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I must say, I am taking a perverse kind of enjoyment out of watching this show commit suicide.

[Beetlejuice]

Nope, I don't think I will.

Yes, you will. Because it is done.

[Josy]

I must say, I am taking a perverse kind of enjoyment out of watching this show commit suicide.

Did you not say last night you were done with it?

[Glenn.]

I must say, I am taking a perverse kind of enjoyment out of watching this show commit suicide.

Can you watch it quietly then please.

[reece(:]

Honestly, they gave us a bit of live feed after people had petitioned for it and the ratings for it were horrendous, they can't win.
Better ratings than super casino

[Lostie!]

Yes, you will. Because it is done.

Are you psychic then? I can't think of another reason for you to be more aware of my own future actions than I am. :think:

[Trasadkel1]

I think he is slightly optimistic there :laugh:

[Beetlejuice]

Did you not say last night you were done with it?

I said I would watch tonight's shambles and then switch off. If I hear that the show is going to be cut short I may watch just to see the looks on their faces as they announce it.

[Beetlejuice]

Are you psychic then? I can't think of another reason for you to be more aware of my own future actions than I am. :think:

How can you watch a show that isn't going to exist?

[Glenn.]

The show can't be cut short

[Raph]

Live feed is the best and most important aspect of Big Brother, they seriously don't know what they're doing.

[James]

They won't bring back live feed - on TV anyway - because they can put other programmes on a channel instead which get higher ratings, and therefore bring in more advertising revenue.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

They would make a decent amount of money if they provided LF online but Oh Well just another thing taking away from the whole concept of what the show USED to be.

Its so dumb that everything that made the show so popular in the early days are the exact things that they wont give us any more and they wonder why the ratings are getting worse?

Great post Josy 100% agree with you, what really gets up my goat is that other counties have 24/7 LF & we only get a measly hour a week 😡

[Beetlejuice]

Can you watch it quietly then please.

LOL

Yes, everybody must share your opinion or keep quiet.

[Lostie!]

I said I would watch tonight's shambles and then switch off. If I hear that the show is going to be cut short I may watch just to see the looks on their faces as they announce it.

:joker:

Covering your back for when you don't actually switch off already?

How can you watch a show that isn't going to exist?

I just said I don't see the show continuing for much longer, and pretty clearly suggested I'd be watching it until it ended. Get it yet?

[Jamesy]

Lmao, 5/6 million viewers. I would have appreciated it if he just said a straight out no instead.

Live feed was and is never meant to draw in millions, it always had a small audience in the C4 days apart from when big events happened.

Agree with the paid live feed mentioned above again. Get that live feed online, get the 5 Demand advertisers on there and get us to pay, simple.

[Liam-]

Better ratings than super casino

Hollyoaks gets better ratings than that, it can't be hard

[Lostie!]

LOL

Yes, everybody must share your opinion or keep quiet.

As opposed to "everybody must share your opinion or be mocked for it"? You've made disparaging comments about people who have the audacity to actually enjoy the show they're choosing to watch a few times recently.

[reece(:]

Hollyoaks gets better ratings than that, it can't be hard
Oaks shade? : oop :

[Glenn.]

LOL

Yes, everybody must share your opinion or keep quiet.

Well, yes. Glad we cleared that up :hee:

[Jay.]

The problem is people desperately clinging onto the past

So many negative Nancy's on here it's unreal http://i.imgur.com/uWedMpns.jpg

this :clap1:

[T*]

overnight tasks like the hole are exactly why we need live feed, that task was amazing
also it shows they arent fiddling with the tasks

[T*]

The show can't be cut short

it can be and has in countries around the world.

[Beetlejuice]

:joker:

Covering your back for when you don't actually switch off already?



I just said I don't see the show continuing for much longer, and pretty clearly suggested I'd be watching it until it ended. Get it yet?

Which means you won't be watching it for much longer... Get it?

[mrmattybeck1]

Even in its peak years it didn't get that

[T*]

Even in its peak years it didn't get that

BB3's average was 5.8 million and BB5's average was 5.1 million with BB1-BB7 not far behind.. :suspect:

[JPG2502]

Ben Frow is probably part of the reason its rating so lowly.

[Pete.]

Even in its peak years it didn't get that
It easily did

[Dash Darington]

Best crash and burn since Utopia.

[Beetlejuice]

BB3's average was 5.8 million and BB5's average was 5.1 million with BB1-BB7 not far behind.. :suspect:

So 2 out of 11 series on Channel 4 got that. And those 2 had a 24/7 feed.

This guys expects the show to be successful without the feed and says that the feed is only coming back if it is that successful. It's hilarious

And during all this time he has been stringing people along telling them that it might come back.

[Beetlejuice]

It easily did

Not easily. Only one year was well above 5 and close to 6 and that was series 3. Even the 5th series needed a fight to get it over the 5 million mark.

Most series of BB averaged about 4.7 million

[Lostie!]

Which means you won't be watching it for much longer... Get it?

I'm sure you'll be watching it for just as long as I am though. :thumbs:

[Beetlejuice]

I'm sure you'll be watching it for just as long as I am though. :thumbs:

Whether I am watching it or not won't make a jot of difference to the quality of the show which will remain ****e, hence the reason it will soon be axed.

[Jason.]

Is he on Magic Mushrooms?

5 million?

The show didn't even get 5 million on Channel 4. Only launches and finals got 5m or above. Well with the exception of BB5 and BB3, of course.

On Channel 4, the loyal viewership consisted of 4.6m. Now it consists of 1.6m.

[Vicky.]

Never then...

[Glenn.]

Let's be real the live feed will never return. We've been without it since 2011 so it's high time people got used to it. Endlessly complaining about it on a BB forum won't change that.

As for the 'axe it its dead' crap, switch off and stop watching it. Don't come on here bitching about it because it's getting tedious. Also people mocking other people for enjoying the show need to love themselves.

[Beetlejuice]

Is he on Magic Mushrooms?

5 million?

The show didn't even get 5 million on Channel 4. Only launches and finals got 5m or above. Well with the exception of BB5 and BB3, of course.

On Channel 4, the loyal viewership consisted of 4.6m. Now it consists of 1.6m.

Closer to 0.6m now

[Beetlejuice]

Let's be real the live feed will never return. We've been without it since 2011 so it's high time people got used to it. Endlessly complaining about it on a BB forum won't change that.

Look the show is in a hole. People will be analysing why it is in that position for the next few weeks. A great many of us believe there is one reason above all others and we are pointing that out.

As for the 'axe it its dead' crap, switch off and stop watching it. Don't come on here bitching about it because it's getting tedious. Also people mocking other people for enjoying the show need to love themselves.


This is a forum for dicussing Big Brother, both what is good and bad about it, as well as what is utterly awful. If you find these threads tedious, take your own advice and stop entering them and replying to them.

[Jason.]

Closer to 0.6m now

This series, yes.

But, in general most C5 series have averaged around 1.6m, the same way most C4 series averaged around 4.6m.

So, in other words BB has lost over 3m viewers.

[Glenn.]

Look the show is in a hole. People will be analysing why it is in that position for the next few weeks. A great many of us believe there is one reason above all others and we are pointing that out.




This is a forum for dicussing Big Brother, both what is good and bad about it, as well as what is utterly awful. If you find these threads tedious, take your own advice and stop entering them and replying to them.

This from the member who last night said he wasn't watching BB anymore.

[Pete.]

Closer to 0.6m now
RIP

[jennyjuniper]

If he really wants to get more viewers then he should pose an online questionnaire and actually take notice of what people want in a BB show. Because all they have done in the past few years with their twists and turns and aiming for shock value and confrontation, is to turn viewers away.

[Beetlejuice]

This from the member who last night said he wasn't watching BB anymore.

Doesn't stop me from discussing what went wrong it.

[Glenn.]

Doesn't stop me from discussing what went wrong it.

There is if you're going to be irrational and OTT about it.

[ThriceShy]

The sole reason that they won't provide live feed is that they want to completely control what is shown. They want to be able to let people out of the house like rylan going to his xfactor auditions. They want to have producers holding cue cards, as was glimpsed on bbots, without anyone seeing.

Having watched some of the conversations this year, they are incredibly forced and scripted and have clearly been cued by producers.

All the other excuses about live feed are nonsense. In the grand scheme of things, live feed would cost them peanuts and could actually be profitable if they got thousands paying £20 per series online for it.

[reece(:]

Best crash and burn since Utopia.
Justice 4 preggers Amanda

[mrmattybeck1]

It easily did
Hardly

[Beetlejuice]

There is if you're going to be irrational and OTT about it.

That is not a response to anything I said.

This is a forum for discussing the show... What Ben Frow has said is an interesting development and in my opinion pretty much confirms the show is done.

If you're not interested in this conversation then stop replying.

[jaxie]

Or maybe just watch something else because some of us (albeit apparently a minority) are still enjoying it. :shrug:

This.

[Beetlejuice]

This.

If you're enjoying it then start a thread where you can all talk about what a 5 star series it's been (whilst it burns). Some of us are not enjoying it and regard the problem (or at least one of the problems) as being the very thing that the head honcho will not even consider at this point.

[jaxie]

The sole reason that they won't provide live feed is that they want to completely control what is shown. They want to be able to let people out of the house like rylan going to his xfactor auditions. They want to have producers holding cue cards, as was glimpsed on bbots, without anyone seeing.

Having watched some of the conversations this year, they are incredibly forced and scripted and have clearly been cued by producers.

All the other excuses about live feed are nonsense. In the grand scheme of things, live feed would cost them peanuts and could actually be profitable if they got thousands paying £20 per series online for it.
Well campaign to get others to watch, (maybe you could dress down as Aaron and go hump tower bridge or something!) Or have a whip round then! I don't know about Ben Frow but the constant carping about live feed sure gets on my nerves!

[ThriceShy]

Well campaign to get others to watch, (maybe you could dress down as Aaron and go hump tower bridge or something!) Or have a whip round then! I don't know about Ben Frow but the constant carping about live feed sure gets on my nerves!

Where have I carped about live feed?

This is a thread about live feed and I simply made a post giving my opinion on why they won't bring it back.

Personally I very rarely watched it and certainly wouldn't pay for it.

[jackc1806]

Aka it's not coming back eva

[RichardG]

5 million viewers :joker::joker::joker:

Live feed is never coming back? Wow I'm shocked. :laugh:

Their reaction to the ratings drop has made me laugh, they think the way to win back viewers is to introduce even more twists and more manipulation when that is the reason why actually people are turning off. I reckon almost everyone on here could offer a multitude of suggestions to improve the show, I watched some clips earlier of a BB7 live show and it was infinitely better than what we get today, but for some reason or another the producers refuse to listen - they have done for many years now. Thats not going to change and for better or worse the show will be cancelled in a couple of years so I guess we might as well either enjoy what's left or just stop watching altogether. :shrug:

[jaxie]

This show doesn't need live feed, it just needs more chickens.

[Beetlejuice]

5 million viewers :joker::joker::joker:

Live feed is never coming back? Wow I'm shocked. :laugh:

Their reaction to the ratings drop has made me laugh, they think the way to win back viewers is to introduce even more twists and more manipulation when that is the reason why actually people are turning off. I reckon almost everyone on here could offer a multitude of suggestions to improve the show, I watched some clips earlier of a BB7 live show and it was infinitely better than what we get today, but for some reason or another the producers refuse to listen - they have done for many years now. Thats not going to change and for better or worse the show will be cancelled in a couple of years so I guess we might as well either enjoy what's left or just stop watching altogether. :shrug:


Yep, I've said elsewhere that everything the viewers have asked for more of, they've done less of and everything they've asked for less of, they've done more of. For an interactive show, it is truly bizarre.

[Babayaro.]

lmao troll much

[y.winter]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/5f8035138c41364351ce5ade77fe0c82/tumblr_mqylfwcqrX1qf5do9o1_400.gif

He needs some lessons from Charley Uchea about how to not be funny.