Why are Joel and Nick so overrated

[Daniel.]

Ew @ how loved they are :umm2:

Two bores that have added nothing to the show, why are they so popular?

Get them out

[LukeB]

because they slay :hee:

[Daniel.]

because they slay :hee:

No they don't their trash and boring

[LukeB]

lies spotted

[armand.kay]

boring losers tbh

[armand.kay]

nicki is alright tho

[Daniel.]

boring losers tbh

Spill

Joel is a snake

[reece(:]

Both dullards

[Amy Jade]

I agree both terminally dull

[rionablue]

Ew @ how loved they are :umm2:

Two bores that have added nothing to the show, why are they so popular?

Get them out

I didn't think I would like Nick with the layabout lifestyle he leads but I like him. He seems quite genuine not in the least cocky and a brilliant friend to Jade which was dodgy when all the rest of the housemates hated her.

I thought I would like Joel, I liked his look and I said he must be mega intelligent but he is vile and spiteful. HOW DARE Jade criticise him and he is holding her accountable since.

Nick is now in my top three seeing that Kieran and Sarah are gone. I am glad he is in there. Except for the sympathy I felt for Joel in the Aaron incident I cant abide him and not only for his hatered of Jade

[Daniel.]

Nick is nice enough but massively overrated.

[Daniel.]

Joel however I cant stand at all.

[Firewire]

Joel is hilarious

[Jay.]

both are hilarious and my favourites in there by far (excluding eileen and possibly sam)

[Pete.]

Joel is a nasty prick who aggrevated Sarah so she gave a responce and he looks the victim.

Nick is alright tho

[Daniel.]

Joel is hilarious
How? He's vile.

both are hilarious and my favourites in there by far (excluding eileen and possibly sam)

I don't see what's funny about two people doing nothing.

Joel is a nasty prick who aggrevated Sarah so she gave a responce and he looks the victim.

Nick is alright tho

Spill on Joel

[StephenPullen]

Joel is a bitchy little slimy snake in the grass. Nick needs to grow a backbone

[Jason.]

Nick is okay. But he's so overrated.
If he wasn't posh, he wouldn't get half the love he gets. FACT.

Joel, I despise.
Glad Sarah put him in his place tonight. Loved how she took the piss out of him, too.

[LukeB]

Joel is hilarious

both are hilarious and my favourites in there by far (excluding eileen and possibly sam)

:clap1:

[Trasadkel1]

Nick has gone way down in my estimation. I wouldn't trust him at all. His desperation to throw Jade under the bus made me see him in a new light. I think he is playing the game and comes across as very sly and untrustworthy to me. The way he went from housemate to housemate trying to clear his name after he was caught out about the noms was cringeworthy.

[Liam-]

Nick is amazing, but Joel is a bit meh.

[Mystic Mock]

I think that it's because most of the others are so awful.

[fitz2k2]

jack puts his head down when nominations are announce but his head uis always up when food is around. That thing he wears def needs to be thrown in laundry. joel is trying to become politician, but he wont be accepted base on women clothing he wore in the house.Maybe hes secretly gay.Who knows.

[Daniel.]

Nick is amazing, but Joel is a bit meh.

How is he amazing?

I think that it's because most of the others are so awful.

If entertainment is what you want, Jade beats them, if niceness is what you want then maybe Nick but certainly not Joel.

[Liam-]

Because I find him endearing and likeable and naturally rather funny.

[fitz2k2]

Nick is amazing, but Joel is a bit meh.

say no to drugs

[Withano]

In a house full of models and people who live to be on TV, they're not half as bad as pretty much all of them.

[Amy Jade]

In a house full of models and people who live to be on TV, they're not half as bad as pretty much all of them.

Joel is one of the most desperate ones in there haha

[Mystic Mock]

How is he amazing?



If entertainment is what you want, Jade beats them, if niceness is what you want then maybe Nick but certainly not Joel.

I don't feel entertained by Jade constantly acting to the public, yes use your Housemates, but don't use the public.

Joel is definitely one of the more interesting Housemates to psychologically evaluate (which is an important part of BBUK) and his strangeness can amuse me, I didn't like what he did to Aaron though and I still stand by that.

Nick is likable but a bit dull, and he doesn't even look like he wants to be there anymore, Chloe might actually overtake him as my 3rd favourite soon if he doesn't get his act into gear.

[Withano]

Joel is one of the most desperate ones in there haha

I disagree, most of them have either been on TV before because they live for the fame or they have an occupation that will likely be boosted by appearing on TV (Joel's can only be damaged on this show). Joel comes across as somebody who wants to be on Big Brother to be on the show instead of gaining a career boost... Much like Nick.

Though, looking back at the original question, their popularity is probably more due to their lack of an argumentative streak. I can't bare the people who spend 10 weeks arguing and shouting. At least they've attempted to have a bit of fun.

[Brother Leon]

I like Joel. Nick was my fave up until he became Jade's lapdog.

[armand.kay]

Joel is one of the most desperate ones in there haha

This lol

[BENDERBOY]

Because they're being themselves,......hopefully.

Not that that is really a good thing for either of them.

[StephenPullen]

Because they're being themselves,......hopefully.

Not that that is really a good thing for either of them.

I was gonna say. Themselves: meaning Joel being a sociopath and Nick being a cringe-bag.

[Kizzy]

No Idea... bland bland bland.

[reece(:]

I was gonna say. Themselves: meaning Joel being a sociopath and Nick being a cringe-bag.
True, they get away with it cos they are young and "cute"?

[Pink Pegasus]

Nick and Joel were my two favourites on launch and the first few days.

Joel slipped down a bit for me because I find him a bit irritating and his attempts at humour sometimes seem too forced and a bit put on, hate to admit it, but I think Danny clocked that on like the 2nd or 3rd night and I criticised him at the time for saying it.
I wouldn't say I definitely dislike him yet. Sometimes he bugs me a lot, sometimes he seem nice, most of the time I'm just a bit 'meh' about him.

Nick slipped slightly in my favourites for a while, purely because I was finding other housemates more entertaining such as the Twins, Kieran and Aaron- all of them have now left in the space of 2 days so Nick is back to being one of my favourites. He seems like one of the nicest people there in the house. He's not really a very funny character and he's not dramatic either, but he seems like a genuinely kind person, easy to get along with and caring towards his friends most of the time. (the one exception to that is the time he bitched to Harriet about Jade that didn't come across well at all). I'd like to see him learn how to stand up for himself a bit more and to gain some confidence in the house.

[Kizzy]

Cute?..... reece, these chinless wonders are not even geek chic :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Cute?..... reece, these chinless wonders are not even geek chic :laugh:

:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Nick is a fake fresh off the conveyor belt at the Dexter Koh Factory, and Joel is an awful Luke Marsden-lite. Both suck.

[Mystic Mock]

Joel reminds me of Luke actually.

I wonder if that's why I like him so much?:joker:

[Dollface]

Nick ain't too bad but he's annoying me now

Joel is just awful

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah I'm really not here for Joel's constant habit of saying nasty things about other people during tasks and then be all "that's the rules of the game so you can't be mad about it :smug:"

[Vanessa]

I like them.

[Daniel.]

Joel reminds me of Luke actually.

I wonder if that's why I like him so much?:joker:

Mock D:

Luke was awful.

[sungrass]

Ew @ how loved they are :umm2:

Two bores that have added nothing to the show, why are they so popular?

Get them out

No idea - maybe because they are young - like most of the viewers - C5 want young viewers as they bring in more advertising revenue. When you have lived a few years you can see through people like Joel/Nick.

[Daniel.]

No idea - maybe because they are young - like most of the viewers - C5 want young viewers as they bring in more advertising revenue. When you have lived a few years you can see through people like Joel/Nick.

I'm only 20 and I can see through Joel the snake

[Visage]

I find them both fascinating to watch. Joel more so for his naivety, he may be educated but he comes across as someone who can struggle with communication around others and Nick for his vulnerability. He might have a rich life money wise, but he appears to lack any self confidence and so it's interesting watching him grow a little in this environment.

[joeysteele]

I find them both fascinating to watch. Joel more so for his naivety, he may be educated but he comes across as someone who can struggle with communication around others and Nick for his vulnerability. He might have a rich life money wise, but he appears to lack any self confidence and so it's interesting watching him grow a little in this environment.

Great points Visage, one very good thing about this series,I have to say, is that you are back on here.

I like them both and I can see fully where you are coming from as to Joel struggling as to communication around others.

[Raph]

Because they're not models/recruits

[Macie Lightfoot]

but they're still awful :(

[actor99]

No one would miss Joel . Not saying he's not a nice guy or anything

[the_answers]

Nick is a nice funny guy who comes across as genuine.
But often far TOO genuine !

Says he really thought he would go (yeah right !)

Patted himself on the back for the twins making up with Jade.
No gameplaying or words for the camera there !
Ok maybe deserved credit.
But turned his back on Jade soon as he thought she was in danger.

Most of what he says is to suck up to the popular ones or for the benefit of the camera to show what a nice guy he is.

Is he really lacking self confidence and growing ?
Or was it just all an act to start off with ?

Can't work him out.

He's either insecure or using a "poor me" gameplan trying to persuade the public.
It could be working !

[Daniel.]

Nick is being vile in this ep

[Daniel.]

Nick in the bathroom :yuk:

Get him out!!!!!

[Daniel.]

Bottom ten hm candidate

[Daniel.]

Nick on the coming up think

He's so vile

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

drag it

[Jay.]

i take it you love nick, daniel

[Liam-]

I'm afraid you're incorrect there Daniel

[adjoa]

I kinda like Joel but Nick is a disgusting slug

[Daniel.]

He's vile and disgusting

[smiley55]

I wasn't a lover of harriet but she said nick was a sneak and shes right! hes bitching behind jades back and he's petrified of mark, thats why hes up his arse.

[Daniel.]

I wasn't a lover of harriet but she said nick was a sneak and shes right! hes bitching behind jades back and he's petrified of mark, thats why hes up his arse.

So true.

[Daniel.]

Nick is so ****ing dull lately and so creepy how can anyone like him :umm2:

[GiRTh]

They were both good before the events of last Friday but now they are both being totally overshadowed by the newbs. Joel in particular is coming across as a bit of a whining bitch. Nick has Harry to give him a hard on so he's happy but Joel could be out this Friday. I'd certainly prefer him to go over Eileen.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I'm really starting to dislike Joel, I think there is something very sly, don't mind Nick though.

[reece(:]

I've disliked Joel since him saying Jade should be scalded in the bath.

[Daniel.]

Nick is ok now (still overrated) but this applies so much for Joel omg he is VILE please do not let this c unt win

[jennyjuniper]

Ew @ how loved they are :umm2:

Two bores that have added nothing to the show, why are they so popular?

Get them out

Because what's left is even worse and have added even less to the show.:shrug:

[Pete.]

They have literally done nothing

[rocket]

They have literally done nothing

Exactly ...neither one a deserved winner...
Hopefully the first 2 out...

[reece(:]

This thread has been validated for the whole of the series.

[Pete.]

Exactly ...neither one a deserved winner...
Hopefully the first 2 out...
Impossible :(

[goldensunlight]

They're not overrated, they deserve the support they're receiving. I hope they make the top 2, unfortunately I doubt Nick will get there because he gets less airtime than the others and isn't so loud.

[reece(:]

They're not overrated, they deserve the support they're receiving. I hope they make the top 2, unfortunately I doubt Nick will get there because he gets less airtime than the others and isn't so loud.
List me some good Nick moments this series?

I've got plenty of time dw.

[VanessaFeltz.]

List me some good Nick moments this series?

I've got plenty of time dw.

List me some good moments of ANY housemate :hehe:

Neither of them deserve to win tbh

[EspeonBB]

Because they're men who are 'gameplayers' that are lapped up by the old women who watch this show, when really they are just bland men who add nothing to the show
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar80210_151.gif

[Pete.]

Because they're men who are 'gameplayers' that are lapped up by the old women who watch this show, when really they are just bland men who add nothing to the show
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar80210_151.gif
:clap1:

[goldensunlight]

List me some good Nick moments this series?

I've got plenty of time dw.
You'd need more time if I were to list them all. :spin:

[the truth]

joel is great....weird , quirky, intelligent, honest, outspoken, decent, loyal , funny and sings like tom jones and slut drops like beyonce....booya

[Mystic Mock]

I can understand why people could like Joel if you just take him at face value and you don't question anything.

I'm completely shocked and disgusted at Nick having fans after his disgusting behaviour, but then Stuart Wilson was liked, and Pete Bennett was crowned the winner so it seems like that this type of male contestant is to be commended.

[Mystic Mock]

I can understand why people could like Joel if you just take him at face value and you don't question anything.

I'm completely shocked and disgusted at Nick having fans after his disgusting behaviour, but then Stuart Wilson was liked, and Pete Bennett was crowned the winner so it seems like that this type of male contestant is to be commended.

[marlobrando2]

They are not overated.They are 2 decent guys who deserve to win.:cheer2:

[Shaun]

Nick I can understand I suppose since he's wet and ineffectual and ultimately just a nice guy I suppose (but then the flip-flopping with his supposed relationships whilst the women take the flak as per usual is really damn old).

Joel I will never understand because he is not a real person and not a likeable facade, either. Zero heart, zero honesty, zero realness. But I guess people find the 2D politician shtick charming or something. I'm not buying.

[abhorson]

Because they're men who are 'gameplayers' that are lapped up by the old women who watch this show, when really they are just bland men who add nothing to the show
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar80210_151.gif

You think that Nick is a game player? Joel YES, but Nick?

He simply does not give a ****. He just wanted to make the final because sadly for him, it was an ambition. In all my time of watching BB. He is the most non game playing finalist that i have ever seen.

He has been ****. But not a game player.

[Lstan]

Ew @ how loved they are :umm2:

Two bores that have added nothing to the show, why are they so popular?

Get them out

:clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Nick I can understand I suppose since he's wet and ineffectual and ultimately just a nice guy I suppose (but then the flip-flopping with his supposed relationships whilst the women take the flak as per usual is really damn old).

Joel I will never understand because he is not a real person and not a likeable facade, either. Zero heart, zero honesty, zero realness. But I guess people find the 2D politician shtick charming or something. I'm not buying.

Also, as if we need any more ammunition on Joel, but his Twitter handle is literally @JoelTory

[tanussa]

they r both vile posh boys, had everything handed to them on a plate, they hav. othing to offer & cud nick hav one final task to stop touching his hair for 24 hrs. dont understand why they r reletively popular

[Lstan]

they r both vile posh boys, had everything handed to them on a plate, they hav. othing to offer & cud nick hav one final task to stop touching his hair for 24 hrs. dont understand why they r reletively popular

again i'm like :clap1:
I dont get the appeal either

[Daniel.]

Nn @ this thread

[Black Dagger]

Joel was ****ing trash. Easily a bottom 5 C5 male housemate.

[Dominic]

Joel is horrible. Nick isn't as bad but he's still a dullard.

[Jason.]

Both were crap housemates imo. Joel was just a nuisance, who I didn't get the love for whatsoever and Chloe winning over him <3 was the only time I felt an ounce of please during BB16.

I liked Nick at first, but then I noticed how sneaky and sly he was and soon went off him. I was also annoyed at how he kept being treated as some sort of hero by the general public (especially from ****ing ex-housemates that entered the house (Nikki, Helen, and Jasmine Lennard to name a few) during his relationship or whatever it was with Harry-Amelia, whilst Harry just received dogs abuse for ruining Nick's chances of winning or whatever it was and being the sole reason why Nick has changed (well no, he changed 'cause he just showed what a massive snake he really was), when in reality she did nothing wrong at all. It was just another case of 'lets just blame the woman yet again'.

[Dominic]

I liked Nick at first, but then I noticed how sneaky and sly he was and soon went off him. I was also annoyed at how he kept being treated as some sort of hero by the general public (especially from ****ing ex-housemates that entered the house (Nikki, Helen, and Jasmine Lennard to name a few) during his relationship or whatever it was with Harry-Amelia, whilst Harry just received dogs abuse for ruining Nick's chances of winning or whatever it was and being the sole reason why Nick has changed (well no, he changed 'cause he just showed what a massive snake he really was), when in reality she did nothing wrong at all. It was just another case of 'lets just blame the woman yet again'.

:clap1:

[EspeonBB]

nnn at least most people seem to be over them now
https://38.media.tumblr.com/a01ae6f1465d2b1c32ef521fd9ae1aec/tumblr_ntnuyxPv7z1u6xk6jo1_250.gif

[reece(:]

Not dull robot Joel and bed hopper Nick.

[Dominic]

The reason people are over them is because most of the good members stay off season. On season is when the male douche obsessed stans come in, hence why Marc, Nick and Joel were faves here.

[Babayaro.]

Nick has to be one of the most disappointing housemates ever. He had plenty potential on launch night to be great but was ultimately just a crap housemate

[Pete.]

Joel :yuk:

[Mystic Mock]

I can understand why people could like Joel if you just take him at face value and you don't question anything.

I'm completely shocked and disgusted at Nick having fans after his disgusting behaviour, but then Stuart Wilson was liked, and Pete Bennett was crowned the winner so it seems like that this type of male contestant is to be commended.

Looking back on it I feel that I might've been too kind about Joel's popularity back then, I don't think that I could ever understand it once we hit the third week.

And I stand by everything that I've said about Nick.

[Dominic]

Nick has to be one of the most disappointing housemates ever. He had plenty potential on launch night to be great but was ultimately just a crap housemate

I mean I don't like Nick either, but:
Big Brother 7 UK (2006)
Glyn

[Mystic Mock]

Glyn at least had dynamics in the house that was past the “I'll try and hook up with every girl in the house” unlike Nick who was more boring than Danny imo and that says a lot for me.

[Mystic Mock]

Glyn at least had dynamics in the house that was past the “I'll try and hook up with every girl in the house” unlike Nick who was more boring than Danny imo and that says a lot for me.

[Dominic]

Danny is by far the most underrated and gets undeserving hate.

[Mystic Mock]

Danny just behaved like a caveman imo, but at least I can say that he behaved that way unlike Nick who never showed an individual personality trait so I'll give you that Brenda.

[Babayaro.]

I mean I don't like Nick either, but:
Big Brother 7 UK (2006)
Glyn

irrelevant, but ok

[LukeB]

irrelevant, but ok

Glyn is awesome :clap1:

[Liam-]

Joel was a top tier housemate of the series, but Nick was an undeniable disappointment, Harry was the only reason he was ever seen.

[Daniel.]

Nick is being vile in this ep

Nick in the bathroom :yuk:

Get him out!!!!!

Bottom ten hm candidate

Nick on the coming up think

He's so vile

He's vile and disgusting

wow tea

https://31.media.tumblr.com/11ff7090e0f2ada34a1dc4e7b040a598/tumblr_inline_o3t4p1YwJC1tgz31u_500.gif

[reece(:]

Shaun's Joel drags gave me life :clap1:

[EspeonBB]

I see no lie
https://31.media.tumblr.com/11ff7090e0f2ada34a1dc4e7b040a598/tumblr_inline_o3t4p1YwJC1tgz31u_500.gif

[Daniel.]

i dont mind nick in hindsight mess

[Jordan.]

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar92536_87.gif

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

fff