BB15 vs BB16?

[JoshBB]

there's a poll for which you prefer overall so far, but also which do you prefer from the following categories? ;

- twists
- theme
- cast
- tasks

Mine:

Twists - BB16,
now although we have seen many.. many.. twists in BB16 within the first few weeks alone, I do feel that they have been more creative and better executed than the ones we saw last year.

Theme - BB15
This timebomb theme has really turned into ' let the producers mess with everything whenever they want to ', and I don't really like it for that reason. The power housemates thing was very good too I thought.

Cast - BB16 (definitely)
So much more diverse, much less wannabes. It's almost as good as a C4 casting in my opinion, very good and overall more real.

Tasks - overwhelmingly BB16
All the tasks have been thought out, and unlike last year we didn't have them pass with ease week after week. Not only that but if they lost, they were given parties and food almost all week ruining the entire concept. This year the whole themes and ideas have been amazing, some of the best I have seen.. especially the overnight task where Chloe had to get people out of it.

Overall BB16 for me.

[Daniel.]

BB15 was better before Friday, since Friday and the newbies this series has imroved greatly and I would rank it higher than BB15 for sure.

Twists - ergh both awfulm bb16 probably

theme - timebomb bc power trip was a flop

cast - bb16 by far

tasks - both meh, bb16 for the one where they were in the scary bit and everyone was scared

[Withano]

The cast and the lack of (stupid) twists and the amount of fun it is to watch is all that matters to me, BB16 wins on all of them so far

[lewis111]

Twists - BB16 because the pass to the final was the worst
Theme - BB15 as they stuck to it throughout most of the series
Cast - BB16 couldn't get much worse than 15
Task - BB16, loved the one in the dark, can't even remember any BB15 ones

[jackc1806]

BB15 was the worst series for years

[Daniel.]

I would probably change my mind and say BB15 had the better theme because of Pauline being in power :love:

[Daniel.]

BB15 was the worst series for years

It was at least better than BB12.

[jackc1806]

I would probably change my mind and say BB15 had the better theme because of Pauline being in power :love:

ease up on the chicken man

[LukeB]

I have to decide when BB16 finishes

[Pete.]

Twists - BB16's haven't been unfair yet (expect for that awful quadruple eviction) and BB15 was too saturated with them

Theme - BB15 because Ashleigh became one of the greatest housemates be suss of it

Cast - BB16, BB15 had some gems but Winston, Hellen, Ash, Marlon, Steven, Kimberly severely damage it

Tasks - Both dire and awful. Channel 4 knew how to do interesting tasks.

[Pete.]

I have to decide when BB16 finishes
This. At the moment BB16 >

[LukeB]

This. At the moment BB16 >

yeah same, we got like 6 weeks left anything could happen from now to the final :worry:

[bbfan1991]

BB15 just because of Ashleigh:):blush:.

[Macie Lightfoot]

both atrocious

[Jay.]

bb16 by FAR

[Strictly Jake]

Irish queens saved both series for me. I wouldn't have been as interested in bb15 if it wasn't for Ashleigh. As for bb16 I am captivated by Jade haha! But I really like every other housemate too apart from Simon and Jack. Whereas bb15 there were so many I disliked. In general for twists theme house cast all points go to bb16!

[Raph]

Twists - BB16 (but both awful manipulations)
Theme - BB16
Cast - BB16 (There's never been a worse cast than bb15 and its stupid recruits).
Tasks - BB16

Ashleigh BB15 alone made it the worst season ever.

[Pete.]

yeah same, we got like 6 weeks left anything could happen from now to the final :worry:
Final pass could easily ruin it

[Pete.]

Ashleigh BB15 alone made it the worst season ever.

You spelt Helen wrong :omgno:

[LukeB]

Final pass could easily ruin it

:omgno: please no,

[Xtopher]

Praying for those who voted 15.

[Macie Lightfoot]

16 is literally going down the exact same route as 15 so.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have to decide when BB16 finishes

:clap1:

[Jason.]

both atrocious

This.

[Pete.]

16 is literally going down the exact same route as 15 so.
Yea

[Withano]

Which is getting more views?

[Jason.]

Which is getting more views?

BB15.

[Withano]

BB15.

How?! I suppose that mess must have turned a few people off for good?

[Pete.]

How?! I suppose that mess must have turned a few people off for good?
Exactly and Helen winning

[LukeB]

BB15
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[Daniel.]

I know it's often said, but I do genuinely think Helen winning has put a lot of people off.

[Jason.]

I highly doubt Helen's win is why people turned off.
Had Ashleigh won, it still wouldn't have changed how awful a series BB15 was.

Not to mention, most viewers turned off before Helen was crowned the winner. I think Armageddon Week, with Danielle being evicted without a public vote is when most viewers turned off and gave up not only on BB15, but BB as a whole.

BB15 was always going to be crap, regardless of who would've won. Fact.
Had Ashleigh won, people would still be moaning. It's just that Helen won, people are moaning even more and more.

[reece(:]

The series without the extreme levels of hostility.

[Daniel.]

I highly doubt Helen's win is why people turned off.
Had Ashleigh won, it still wouldn't have changed how awful a series BB15 was.

Not to mention, most viewers turned off before Helen was crowned the winner. I think Armageddon Week, with Danielle being evicted without a public vote is when most viewers turned off and gave up not only on BB15, but BB as a whole.

BB15 was always going to be crap, regardless of who would've won. Fact.
Had Ashleigh won, people would still be moaning. It's just that Helen won, people are moaning even more and more.

If Ashleigh won it would have felt more narratively satisfying because the bully didn't win and as Deana would say "good has overcome evil"

[Pete.]

If Ashleigh won it would have felt more narratively satisfying because the bully didn't win and as Deana would say "good has overcome evil"
This

[Jason.]

People say BB15 made people tune off.

But how did BB15 get bad ratings?
I mean, BB15 got bad ratings from the start. It didn't start of well, and dip in terms of ratings.

It stayed consistent with an average of 1.5m from Week 1, until Week 10.

My question is why did those additional 0.4m viewers who tuned in for BB14 not tune in for BB15?

[Jason.]

If Ashleigh won it would have felt more narratively satisfying because the bully didn't win and as Deana would say "good has overcome evil"

Yes, but that still wouldn't have changed all those tedious and constant twists, manipulation, meddling, forced conflict, crap cast, and a mess of a series that BB15 was, 71 days before.

People stopped watching BB15 because it was an ugly series full of crap twists, forced conflict, and frankly it was just utter garbage, which went against everything the show stands for. Not because their favorite didn't win a mediocre series.

[Daniel-X]

Tasks - BB16 - They've been great so far enjoyed every single one (apart from the first one)

Cast - BB16 - Some are normal at least compared to last year which was just full of people who had been in the limelight some way or were fame hungry

Theme - BB16 - Both are terrible and the theme thing needs to stop tbh secrets and lies wasn't even that good but BB16 is slightly better as there isn't constant time bombs unlike someone being in power nearly every week.

Twists - BB16 - Not ill thought and last minute like BB15

[Daniel.]

People say BB15 made people tune off.

But how did BB15 get bad ratings?
I mean, BB15 got bad ratings from the start. It didn't start of well, and dip in terms of ratings.

It stayed consistent with an average of 1.5m from Week 1, until Week 10.

My question is why did those additional 0.4m viewers who tuned in for BB14 not tune in for BB15?

Because some people didn't like the opening night cast.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Twists - BB16 - Not ill thought and last minute like BB15

umm...

[Daniel.]

Yes, but that still wouldn't have changed all those tedious and constant twists, manipulation, meddling, forced conflict, crap cast, and a mess of a series that BB15 was, 71 days before.

People stopped watching BB15 because it was an ugly series full of crap twists, forced conflict, and frankly it was just utter garbage, which went against everything the show stands for. Not because their favorite didn't win a mediocre series.

Yes, but it still left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths that a horrible person had won, whereas if Ashleigh had won I would probably look back at the season with a better view than I do now, I would still see it as trash, but it would be good knowing that in the end, the good housemate won.

[Jason.]

I must say I prefer the Timebomb theme, compared to Power Trip on paper.

But, the Timebomb theme isn't that. It's just the producers chance to add twists and meddle to save their favourites. Most of the twists have actually had nothing to do with time, rendering the theme pointless and irrelevant.

At least with Power Trip, it was linked with Power. If that makes sense.

Therefore, I think Power Trip was the better one.

[Jason.]

Yes, but it still left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths that a horrible person had won, whereas if Ashleigh had won I would probably look back at the season with a better view than I do now, I would still see it as trash, but it would be good knowing that in the end, the good housemate won.

Fair point.

[reece(:]

I must say I prefer the Timebomb theme, compared to Power Trip on paper.

But, the Timebomb theme isn't that. It's just the producers chance to add twists and meddle to save their favourites. Most of the twists have actually had nothing to do with time, rendering the theme pointless and irrelevant.

At least with Power Trip, it was linked with Power. If that makes sense.

Therefore, I think Power Trip was the better one.
They could have done so much more with the timebomb theme but all they have done is substitute it for the word twist.

[Jason.]

They could have done so much more with the timebomb theme but all they have done is substitute it for the word twist.

Exactly!
How the heck is Jade's luxury relating to time?

As horrible as Power Trip was, you can atleast say they did a lot with the theme, it was just executed appallingly.

I think they also messed up with last Friday's twist, by bringing back Showbiz, as it completely rendered the launch night twist pointless, especially after the hype of evicting someone on the first night.

Now if they do that in future series, it won't be the same as it will already had been done before, but not even used properly.

[Pete.]

Big Brother is basically a trainwreck and has lost the public support it once had. Only January CBB has thrown the franchise a life vest because it genuinely makes people interested

[Jason.]

Big Brother is basically a trainwreck and has lost the public support it once had. Only January CBB has thrown the franchise a life vest because it genuinely makes people interested

I agree.
You can tell how the vibe is different in comparison.

Back in January, during CBB15, there was a spark, and sense of hype.
Now, it's just something to watch at 10pm.

[uniquedude]

For the first three weeks only bb15 wins hands down.

The theme was better for bb15 and seemed a lot more consistent
tasks were better
housemates were worse however after the 4out4in housemates for this series are worse.

[JoshBB]

I agree.
You can tell how the vibe is different in comparison.

Back in January, during CBB15, there was a spark, and sense of hype.
Now, it's just something to watch at 10pm.

Frustrating how easy it would be to fix as well.

Next year they could have a 'vintage' theme where they use the format of C4. Normal nominations almost every week, twists being rare and not too extreme, bringing back live feed, letting the producers take a step back and stop manipulating housemates, give us a cast of natural people, and don't have a million people up for eviction each week.

Then keep that format as a regular thing. Also show regular conversations about little things, not just arguments.

[zakman440]

First two weeks of Timebomb > entire series of Power Trip.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

BB16 by far, cause I like most of the HM's, where as I didn't find many BB15 very likeable.