Russell Brands £60 sweatshirts says made in UK but infact made in Bangladesh

[arista]

In a Sweatshop

Hypocrite Brand's trendy tops made in Bangladesh sweatshop: Millionaire comic sells £60 sweatshirts from workers earning just 25p an hour

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3112824/Hypocrite-Brand-s-trendy-tops-Bangladesh-sweatshop-Millionaire-comic-sells-60-sweatshirts-workers-earning-just-25p-hour.html#ixzz3cFtPU03D


[Comic claims sweatshirts are 'screen printed and produced in the UK'
In fact label stitched into lining reveals they are made in Bangladesh
Factory staff described working 11-hour shifts for as little as £1.98 a day
Says profits go to good causes, so why is just £1.37 donated from £65 top?
The only 'good cause' Brand will disclose his own cafe in Shoreditch]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/05/21/2952D4A300000578-3112824-Origins_Brand_s_website_says_the_shirt_is_screen_p rinted_and_pro-m-6_1433536060678.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/05/21/2952D4C800000578-3112824-Origins_The_label_on_one_of_his_official_sweatshir ts_that_we_bou-a-8_1433536125652.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/05/21/2952D48B00000578-3112824-image-a-12_1433536259986.jpg



Brand is Evil.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/28/18/video-undefined-281C46EB00000578-87_636x358.jpg
He told Ed about the Big Corps taking Power
and now we find out the Hypocrite Brand is part of the problem.

[Ammi]

..I haven't read the article, I'll do it later but ouch in general when celebrities put their endorsements on things and don't thoroughly research them...

[arista]

..I haven't read the article, I'll do it later but ouch in general when celebrities put their endorsements on things and don't thoroughly research them...


Of Course
but for him its Political

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/03/15/2953BDE900000578-3087655-image-a-27_1433342754526.jpg
Brands workers


[Last night Conservative MP Andrew Percy
suggested he ‘could have his merchandise made in Britain and support jobs for young people here’.]

[T*]

stupid **** tbh
I really dislike him nowadays

[Crimson Dynamo]

68 quid for a 5 quid sweatshirt that cost 20p to make

:umm2:

[arista]

68 quid for a 5 quid sweatshirt that cost 20p to make

:umm2:


Yes he is Evil

[Toy Soldier]

68 quid for a 5 quid sweatshirt that cost 20p to make

:umm2:
This is hardly new though, £150 trainers put together for £2 by someone earning 10p an hour. That's just capitalism. Not here for the same people who celebrate western capitalism and democracy suddenly having a problem with the wider implications. Grrlbye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is hardly new though, £150 trainers put together for £2 by someone earning 10p an hour. That's just capitalism. Not here for the same people who celebrate western capitalism and democracy suddenly having a problem with the wider implications. Grrlbye.

Yes but Mike Ashley is hardly telling kids not to vote etc is he

[JoshBB]

1 - Do you honestly think Brand would be okay with this?? Definitely not.
2 - This is the Daily Mail. A right-wing newspaper, slandering a very left-wing politics-involved person. Think logically.
3 - If this is true it's gross but I highly doubt it

[Crimson Dynamo]

1 - Do you honestly think Brand would be okay with this?? Definitely not.
2 - This is the Daily Mail. A right-wing newspaper, slandering a very left-wing politics-involved person. Think logically.
3 - If this is true it's gross but I highly doubt it

http://www.russellbrand.com/trinkets/

[JoshBB]

http://www.russellbrand.com/trinkets/

What am I supposed to be looking at?

[arista]

1 - Do you honestly think Brand would be okay with this?? Definitely not.
2 - This is the Daily Mail. A right-wing newspaper, slandering a very left-wing politics-involved person. Think logically.
3 - If this is true it's gross but I highly doubt it


This is a Legit Story
What paper it is - Does Not Matter

[Toy Soldier]

Yes but Mike Ashley is hardly telling kids not to vote etc is he
True, but your post seemed to suggest that £5 tops being sold for £70 is in some way surprising... Which it isn't. It's not good, but it's not surprising. It's really the tip of the iceberg, also... Designer dresses costing several thousand cost piss all to make.

I'd be tempted to give Brand the benefit of the doubt here and say that he was probably just ignorant to the situation. Even if you don't believe that he's against it for ethical reasons, you have to believe that he'd know that being involved in this knowingly would damage his image and reputation. I just can't see it. Most likely it's been sorted out by one of his lackeys through a UK proxy who have made false claims about the production process and are actually just bulk importing.

Not that it's a great excuse, it seems like he really should have been checking up on this sort of thing, for the very reasons above.

[JoshBB]

This is a Legit Story
What paper it is - Does Not Matter

Please don't tell me you're one of those people who believe everything they see in the media?? :facepalm:

[Kizzy]

This is hardly new though, £150 trainers put together for £2 by someone earning 10p an hour. That's just capitalism. Not here for the same people who celebrate western capitalism and democracy suddenly having a problem with the wider implications. Grrlbye.

:joker:

The mail slur campaign continues apace.

[Toy Soldier]

From what I can gather from there, the sweaters are sold to them by a UK company who applies the "trews" branding, and it's that company who imports the blank garments from Bangladesh. So - whilst I still maintain as above that they should have checked into this very carefully before buying - it's perfectly feasible that the UK screenprinting company who makes the garments for them wasn't transparent (or even lied?) about the source of the blank items.

[Toy Soldier]

With that in mind I agree with Josh (and Kizzy) that this is another blatant "daily mail smear". They havent even bothered to get any sort of comment from Brand or his representatives before publishing. Piss poor and biased journalism, as always from the Mail.

[arista]

Please don't tell me you're one of those people who believe everything they see in the media?? :facepalm:



No it was on the news,
Brand is a Fecking Fool

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/03/15/2953BF8000000578-3087655-image-a-26_1433342747859.jpg
Yes Fella keep making the Trews gear
Kizzy , Josh love how you get 25p a hour

[Kizzy]

No it was on the news,
Brand is a Fecking Fool

Was it on the ordinary news or the true news? (trews) :fan:

[Toy Soldier]

Was it on the ordinary news or the true news? (trews) :fan:

I'm sure it will be soon enough :joker:

[Kizzy]

I'm just counting the hours :joker:

[smudgie]

Daylight robbery..all round.

[Ninastar]

Basically proves what kind of person he is, really.

[Kizzy]

Statement about merch
June 6, 2015
We found out that a couple of the sizes of sweatshirts we offer may not have been sourced in the ethical way we thought – MADLY the Daily Mail brought this to our attention (snidely) – we’ve responded to em & ironed out a few of their attempts to **** stir. We’ve got shot of the manufacturer so the DM can go back to focusing on their owners dubious tax affairs.

All trews merch profit goes towards building community social enterprise projects

Watch Emperor’s New Clothes to learn more about DM/Rothermere tax scandal

Russell.


http://www.russellbrand.com/statement-about-merch/

[MTVN]

Smug tosser

[Livia]

That's quite a lot of money for a sweatshirt made in Bangladesh. And only just over a quid to charity? He's all heart, isn't it. If his name is connected with this sweatshirt he cannot claim he didn't know or he's going to look like a bigger idiot that usual.

Why is this not in the Trews thread, hmmmmmm?

[arista]

That's quite a lot of money for a sweatshirt made in Bangladesh. And only just over a quid to charity? He's all heart, isn't it. If his name is connected with this sweatshirt he cannot claim he didn't know or he's going to look like a bigger idiot that usual.

Why is this not in the Trews thread, hmmmmmm?


Because its a Bigger story
than kizzy posting video clips

[Kizzy]

Put it in.... what's stopping you? :shrug:

[arista]

Basically proves what kind of person he is, really.


Bang On Right Lady

[arista]

Put it in.... what's stopping you? :shrug:


This is about Workers on Low Pay in Asia


Nothing to do with you


Its a News Item

[Kizzy]

Well of course, but if someone thinks it should be in there I have no objections to that.

[Livia]

I was actually wondering why you didn't put it in, Kizzy. You're the custodian of the Trews thread, aren't you?

[arista]

I was actually wondering why you didn't put it in, Kizzy. You're the custodian of the Trews thread, aren't you?



Very Valid Point

[Kizzy]

I started it if that's what you mean, not sure why you're inferring I should be the one to post any related articles in it however :/

[Livia]

Because you bump it all the time and this story is big and it's about Trews.

[Kizzy]

Is it?... I hadn't noticed :idc:

[Livia]

I noticed.

[Kizzy]

Then you must do something about it Livia, be my guest.
Personally I didn't wish to hijack Aristas important news item.

[Livia]

Then you must do something about it Livia, be my guest.
Personally I didn't wish to hijack Aristas important news item.

... or put anything negative in the Trews thread.

I won't be adding it, I don't read the Trews thread. As far as I'm concerned it should be in Chat and Games or Creative Writing...

[Kizzy]

... or put anything negative in the Trews thread.

I won't be adding it, I don't read the Trews thread. As far as I'm concerned it should be in Chat and Games or Creative Writing...

What are you implying?

It deserves to be in News and serious debates due to the content inviting serious debate...but seeing as you don't read it you're not really able to comment on the topics included or debate them.

[Toy Soldier]

Ahh Livia / Kizzy standoffs do please me a bit. Does anyone remember that show, "Celebrity Death Match"? Tibb needs more claymation tbh.

[Kizzy]

'According to the publication, the shirts were advertised as being 'screen printed and produced in the UK'. Russell reportedly understood his clothes were made in factories in England.

The 40-year-old comic has since taken to his website to say he has now taken steps to sort out the situation.

Responding to reports, he said: "We found out that a couple of the sizes of sweatshirts we offer may not have been sourced in the ethical way that we thought.

He said after this was brought to his attention, he has "ironed out a few attempts to s*** stir".

He continued: "We've got shot of the manufacturer. All trews march profit goes towards building community social enterprise projects."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/russell-brand-irons-out-claims-5833963

[empire]

russell, boy is a champagne socialist, he told young people to not to vote but in the last hour, he went on youtube and said vote labour vote labour, the guy is a bum hole, he is the labour party's , agent, he says this crap about helping the poor, but has his t-shirts, with £60 rip-offs, and are made by people who are under the slave labour act,

[T*]

the way people idolise him is ridiculous
he's literally a comedian/famous for being famous in the USA/walking STD that has randomly decided 'IM A POLITICIAN NOW AWIGHT INNIT'

[JoshBB]

the way people idolise him is ridiculous
he's literally a comedian/famous for being famous in the USA/walking STD that has randomly decided 'IM A POLITICIAN NOW AWIGHT INNIT'

do you even know what you're talking about

[Toy Soldier]

the way people idolise him is ridiculous
he's literally a comedian/famous for being famous in the USA/walking STD that has randomly decided 'IM A POLITICIAN NOW AWIGHT INNIT'

do you even know what you're talking about

Some people believe that you have to be "a politician" to be politically active. These people are one of the major reasons that we are sleepwalking into an abyss.

[Kizzy]

Some people believe that you have to be "a politician" to be politically active. These people are one of the major reasons that we are sleepwalking into an abyss.

True.

[jackc1806]

When Lauren Harries said he shagged him was more interesting than this. Merchandise made in Asia shocker.

[Samuel.]

Some people believe that you have to be "a politician" to be politically active. These people are one of the major reasons that we are sleepwalking into an abyss.

100% this. I don't get this idea that because he has a background in comedy and personal troubles that he somehow doesn't deserve to be listened to on the topic of politics. Isn't that the whole idea of democracy?

If he's well informed or not can be debated, but the same could be said for everybody who has an opinion.

Every popular person will have a portion of people "idolising" them, but you'll probably find the vast majority just watch in interest of an alternative viewpoint and/or for entertainment.

[the truth]

hes become snide and demeaning exactly what he claims he dislikes, hes hopelessly biased and hypocritical too

[Livia]

Ahh Livia / Kizzy standoffs do please me a bit. Does anyone remember that show, "Celebrity Death Match"? Tibb needs more claymation tbh.

LOL... standoff. You're funny....

[Toy Soldier]

LOL... standoff. You're funny....
I'm a ded fooneh lad yeh.

Seriously though, one day it's going to escalate and there will be a dance off. One day.

[Livia]

I'm a ded fooneh lad yeh.

Seriously though, one day it's going to escalate and there will be a dance off. One day.

I'll be back at work by then so I won't have all day to dance the dance. If I'm forced into a dance off though, can you make it salsa. I'm good at that... when I haven't got a gammy leg.

[Toy Soldier]

It's the tango. But you have to do it solo.

[Kizzy]

Yeah not much of a standoff when I keep kicking her crutches away :laugh:

[Z]

Meh, the right wing media would do anything to ruin the guy's reputation, not sure if I'm happy to see them attempt to do so or not. He's a cocky mouthpiece who doesn't have all that much to say but has a wordy way of saying it and I don't like his agenda but I also don't think it's his fault whatsoever that people on the other side of the world are being exploited.

[the truth]

Meh, the right wing media would do anything to ruin the guy's reputation, not sure if I'm happy to see them attempt to do so or not. He's a cocky mouthpiece who doesn't have all that much to say but has a wordy way of saying it and I don't like his agenda but I also don't think it's his fault whatsoever that people on the other side of the world are being exploited. the left wing do exactly the same?

[Kizzy]

9bL3ybv-iPI

[Z]

the left wing do exactly the same?

Never said they didn't mate

[JoshBB]

the left wing do exactly the same?

Can you give examples?

[arista]

9bL3ybv-iPI


You have a thread for This

WHY DOUBLE POST IT


But not many replys on your Dead thread


Can you Delete your Post please
Then I will Delete this post
Thank You

[JoshBB]

You have a thread for This

WHY DOUBLE POST IT


But not many replys on your Dead thread


Can you Delete your Post please
Then I will Delete this post
Thank You

It's relevant to the thread because its regarding the discussion topic

[arista]

It's relevant to the thread because its regarding the discussion topic


Yes but she posted it on Her Trews thread
and got no reply.


So she thought put it on my thread.


Anyone who needs brands View go to her thread
Thats fair

Or maybe a mod could delete her thread
then I could never say this

[arista]

Was it on the ordinary news or the true news? (trews) :fan:



Yes You posted it on Trew News thread Today

[the truth]

Can you give examples?

Ye try these left wing nut jobs

Daily[edit]
##The Morning Star - Co-operative reader-owned paper, but Britain's Road to Socialism, the programme of the Communist Party, underlies the paper's editorial stance. The paper also has Labour and trade union Left links. It was formerly the Daily Worker.
##The Guardian

Weekly[edit]
##New Statesman - independent
##The New Worker - from the New Communist Party.
##The Socialist - from the Socialist Party.
##Socialist Worker - from the Socialist Workers Party.
##Tribune - Labour movement newspaper, with Labour Party connections
##Weekly Worker - published by the Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee).

Fortnightly[edit]
##Scottish Socialist Voice - from the Scottish Socialist Party.
##Solidarity - from the Alliance for Workers' Liberty.

Monthly[edit]
##The Catalyst - from the Solidarity Federation.
##Fight Racism, Fight Imperialism - from the Revolutionary Communist Group.
##Gagged! - from South Wales Anarchists.
##Labour Left Briefing - produced by Labour Party members.
##New Internationalist - independent.
##Peace News - independent.
##Resistance - from the Anarchist Federation.
##Revolution - from the British section of Revolution
##Anticipations - the Young Fabians' journal.
##Socialist Appeal - from the British section of the International Marxist Tendency
##Socialist Campaign Group News - connected with the Socialist Campaign Group of the Labour Party.
##Socialist Review - from the Socialist Workers Party.
##Socialist Standard - from the Socialist Party of Great Britain.
##Socialism Today - from the Socialist Party.
##Workers Hammer- from Spartacist League of Britain.

Bi-monthly[edit]
##Chartist - connected to the Labour Party.
##Class Struggle - from Workers Fight.
##The Fargate Speaker - from the Sheffield group of the Anarchist Federation.
##Hereford Heckler - independent anarchist paper with local news and views from Herefordshire.
##Lalkar - formerly the journal of the Indian Workers' Association, now independent, but sympathetic to the CPGB(ML).
##New Left Review - independent
##Proletarian - from the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist).
##Red Pepper - independent, appeared monthly from 1994, relaunched as a bi-monthly in 2007
##Scottish Left Review - independent
##Socialist News - from the Socialist Labour Party .
##Socialist Resistance - from the International Socialist Group and Socialist Solidarity Network.
##Workers Power - from Workers' Power.

Quarterly[edit]
##Ceasefire Magazine - Independent publication
##Communist Review - from the Communist Party.
##Direct Action - from the Solidarity Federation.
##Fifth International - from the League for the Fifth International.
##International Communist Forum - from Workers Fight.
##International Socialism - from the Socialist Workers Party.
##Marxist International Review - from the International Marxist Tendency.
##Revolutionary Perspectives - from the Communist Workers Organisation.
##rs21 - Magazine of Revolutionary Socialism in the 21st Century.
##Socialist Studies (1989)Socialist Studies.
##Socialist Youth Magazine of International Socialist Resistance (socialist youth organisation ISR).
##Workers Hammer - from the Spartacist League.
##World Revolution - from World Revolution (four times a year).

Tri-annually[edit]
##Capital & Class - from the Conference of Socialist Economists.
##Critique (Journal of Socialist Theory) - independent.
##Frontline - associated with the Scottish Socialist Party.

Unknown or irregular frequency[edit]
##Aufheben - libertarian communist journal.[1]
##Black Flag - independent anarchist.
##Bread & Roses - from the Industrial Workers of the World (Wobblies).
##The Bristolian - independent paper 'smiting the high and mighty,' exposing the council, politicians and businesspeople in Bristol.
##Challenge - from the Young Communist League.
##Freedom - from Freedom Press.
##Mayday.
##News Line - from the Workers Revolutionary Party.
##Organise! - from the Anarchist Federation.
##Radical Philosophy.
##Revolutionary History - independent.
##Slaney Street - independent, Birmingham based free paper.
##Student Socialist - from Socialist Students.
##The Whinger.
##Workers - from the Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist).
##Workers' Weekly - from the Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist).

Defunct[edit]

Daily[edit]
##Daily Citizen
##Daily Herald - from the Trades Union Congress (1912-64).

Weekly[edit]
##The Bee-Hive - initially from the London Trades Council, then independent (1861-72).
##The Call - official organ of the British Socialist Party, terminated 1920 with establishment of The Communist.
##Clarion - independent (1891-1931).
##The Communist - publication of the Communist Party of Great Britain from 1920 until replaced by The Workers' Weekly early in 1923.
##Justice - from the Social Democratic Federation, British Socialist Party and then National Socialist Party (1884-1933).
##Labour Herald - independent (1981-85).
##Labour Leader - independent until acquired by the Independent Labour Party (1887-1986).
##Labour Standard - from the London Trades Council (1881-85).
##Labour Weekly, official Labour Party newspaper which was closed in 1988.
##Militant - from the Militant tendency (later Militant Labour) published 1964-97.
##News on Sunday - independent.
##Reynolds News - independent until acquired by the Co-operative Press (1850-1967).
##The Socialist - from the Socialist Labour Party (1903-?).
##Socialist Commentary - from the Socialist Vanguard Group (1934-78).
##Socialist Organiser - from the Socialist Organiser Alliance.
##Soviet Weekly - from the Novosti Press Agency (1942-91)

Fortnightly[edit]
##Class Struggle - from the Revolutionary Communist League of Britain (1973-1987).

Monthly[edit]
##Militant International Review - from the Militant tendency.
##Marxism Today - from the Communist Party of Great Britain.
##New Times - Democratic Left
##Workers Liberty - from the Alliance for Workers Liberty.

Unknown or irregular frequency[edit]
##Alert Scotland - from the Communist Party of Scotland.
##Economic and Philosophic Science Review - formerly the journal of the International Leninist Workers Party, now independent.
##Fightback - from Communist Forum.
##New Communist Review - from the New Communist Party.
##Red Flag - from the Revolutionary Workers Party (Trotskyist).
##Emancipation and Liberation - from the Republican Communist Network
##Scottish Marxist Voice - from the Communist Party of Scotland.
##Socialist Action - from Socialist Action.
##Socialist Studies - from the United Socialist Party
##What Next Journal|What Next
##Workers Action (WIL)

[Toy Soldier]

Oh yes look at that massive list of current major national newspapers, such as "The Bee-hive" which apparently closed down in 1872.

Mess, the truth. Mess.

[Kizzy]

You have a thread for This

WHY DOUBLE POST IT


But not many replys on your Dead thread


Can you Delete your Post please
Then I will Delete this post
Thank You

I post the trews everyday in the trews thread, even if there's no comment some may read it, not every thread get's replies.
I won't be removing this one either, Mr Brand deserves a right to reply to the accusations of hypocrisy in the article in the OP, I posted his response to the topic.

[arista]

I post the trews everyday in the trews thread, even if there's no comment some may read it, not every thread get's replies.
I won't be removing this one either, Mr Brand deserves a right to reply to the accusations of hypocrisy in the article in the OP, I posted his response to the topic.


Typical

[the truth]

Oh yes look at that massive list of current major national newspapers, such as "The Bee-hive" which apparently closed down in 1872.

Mess, the truth. Mess.

typical new labour socialist you get someone else to do your work for you and youre still not happy:nono:

[Toy Soldier]

typical new labour socialist you get someone else to do your work for you and youre still not happy:nono:
A) I'm not a labour supporter

B) I didn't ask you to do anything

C) not sure copying and pasting a list counts as work

D) was just pointing out that your list is neither mainstream nor (even remotely) current.

[the truth]

A) I'm not a labour supporter

B) I didn't ask you to do anything

C) not sure copying and pasting a list counts as work

D) was just pointing out that your list is neither mainstream nor (even remotely) current.


I contributed you did absolutely nothing as usual, shameful

[Toy Soldier]

I contributed you did absolutely nothing as usual, shameful
Saying nothing at all would be a more worthwhile contribution than straight copying and pasting a pointless list. In fact I will contribute more to this thread right now that you did with that post.

http://www.juicetherapy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/carrots.png

There you go. It's a picture of a carrot. Enjoy.

[JoshBB]

The truth,

Quoting a list of left-leaning newspapers is not at all what is meant by giving examples of 'the left-wing do exactly the same'. Not an example at all.

[Toy Soldier]

The truth,

Quoting a list of left-leaning newspapers is not at all what is meant by giving examples of 'the left-wing do exactly the same'. Not an example at all.
I think he's trying to claim that the media is not right wing controlled which, in the UK in 2015, is simply false. I really can't fathom what his list of victorian, ww2 and obscure cold war era publications is supposed to "prove". It's certainly not comparable to the modern daily mass tabloid media right wing blanket coverage we have now.

[Kizzy]

If he listened to the trews he'd know that :idc:

[the truth]

mass? the bbc is spectacularly socialist as is that entire list ive posted....the enemy of socialism is the crooks within it....the seemingly endless cover ups and bent councils

[Z]

This has completely digressed from the point that Russell Brand is responsible for sweatshop conditions all around the world since time began..

[Kizzy]

:joker:

[the truth]

This has completely digressed from the point that Russell Brand is responsible for sweatshop conditions all around the world since time began..

sarcasm is still lowest form of wit....and yes brand is guilty here

[Kizzy]

Guilty of what exactly?

[Marsh.]

This has completely digressed from the point that Russell Brand is responsible for sweatshop conditions all around the world since time began..

:joker:

[Kizzy]

It's shocking isn't it? if he was a totally unnethical big corporation making squillions for shareholders off the broken backs of the developing world everyone would think it was ace :/

[empire]

this is the reason why I am anti globalisation, brand is a con man, who is out there to make money and exploit from the poor, he is no different from the rich toffs who sit on there fat butt's in westminster, brand dreams of new world order in that you work longer for less money,

[the truth]

THE IRONY IS these new labour droogs are slavishly following the European union new world order which simply re establishes and simplifies global corporate control FORVER

[Toy Soldier]

THE IRONY IS these new labour droogs are slavishly following the European union new world order which simply re establishes and simplifies global corporate control FORVER

Ridiculously naive that you think it's only New Labour and not every single major political force in the western world :joker:. The Tories are in this **** up to their eyeballs too?

[Kizzy]

If global corporate control gets your goat you should love russ... he's not a fan either :laugh:

[the truth]

Ridiculously naive that you think it's only New Labour and not every single major political force in the western world :joker:. The Tories are in this **** up to their eyeballs too?

youre the naïve one....at least they are giving us a referendum....new labour signed the disgusting unreadable 587 page constitution that will imprison us for a generation in red tape burocracy waste and enslave us to the EU. New labour also gifted back our multi million rebate in return for NOTHING...bliar would do anything for more power. now we see all time record high unemployment rates for the masses....the people brand pretends to represent? yet the EU impoverishes 100s of millions, blocks the Africans from trading, destroys small to medium businesses and simply institutionalises the massive corporate takeovers....with so much red tape only the big boys can surive....sadly you just don't get it

[the truth]

If global corporate control gets your goat you should love russ... he's not a fan either :laugh:

yet he supports the EU who bankrupt nations enslave the masses and institutionalise the global corporate takeoever? what a deluded fool he is....and how foolish are the fools that follow the fool?

[Toy Soldier]

youre the naïve one....at least they are giving us a referendum....new labour signed the disgusting unreadable 587 page constitution that will imprison us for a generation in red tape burocracy waste and enslave us to the EU. New labour also gifted back our multi million rebate in return for NOTHING...bliar would do anything for more power. now we see all time record high unemployment rates for the masses....the people brand pretends to represent? yet the EU impoverishes 100s of millions, blocks the Africans from trading, destroys small to medium businesses and simply institutionalises the massive corporate takeovers....with so much red tape only the big boys can surive....sadly you just don't get it
They are giving us a referendum that they will do everything in their power to influence towards the result of staying in. It's lip service, paid because they knew that a referendum would be on the cards at some point inevitably, and they want it over and done with. At the end of the day, The Tories do not want out of the EU any more than Labour does.

[James]

Re: the sweatshirts.

It shows how much of a consumerist and materialistic society we live in. People actually like paying £68 pounds for a cheap sweatshirt with a logo on it.

And celebrity culture is closely linked with consumerism and materialism. That's the irony of what Russell Brand is arguing against. He's arguing against the thing that he is a product of.

[Kizzy]

He is to a certain extent but I guess that's just the nature of giving to good causes in the modern age.
There was celebrity culture before him and there will be after, he didn't invent hero worship or merchandising a venture yet it's a tool he uses to see his community concepts progress.. if he were Branson some may call him a genius :/

[the truth]

He is to a certain extent but I guess that's just the nature of giving to good causes in the modern age.
There was celebrity culture before him and there will be after, he didn't invent hero worship or merchandising a venture yet it's a tool he uses to see his community concepts progress.. if he were Branson some may call him a genius :/

branson is a genius , hes created 100s of thousands of jobs in multiple sectors....heck hes flying people to space....he also doesn't preach to people the way brand does, yet what is brand? a crack head who wants everyone to take drugs without legal restraint, a multiple cheat who cheats on his many girlfriends, a man who wants us enslaved to Europe and its endless laws that destroy and impoverish poor people and blocks africans from trading and a man who exploits this disgusting cheap labour market

[empire]

brands knows where his t-shirts are made from, he has a price of £60, put on t-shirts that are worth only £5, he is in bed with the big corporation people, his house is in a tax haven area, he loses his temper when being told the truth, when he was on question time, he acted like a prat, saying this needs more money, that needs more money, but he seemed to have no clue, to the fact that, where will this money will come from.

[T*]

When Lauren Harries said he shagged him was more interesting than this. Merchandise made in Asia shocker.

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[Kizzy]

branson is a genius , hes created 100s of thousands of jobs in multiple sectors....heck hes flying people to space....he also doesn't preach to people the way brand does, yet what is brand? a crack head who wants everyone to take drugs without legal restraint, a multiple cheat who cheats on his many girlfriends, a man who wants us enslaved to Europe and its endless laws that destroy and impoverish poor people and blocks africans from trading and a man who exploits this disgusting cheap labour market

Wrong Branson preaches to me often, I am bombarded with mail and adverts for virgin media.
Russel as far as I'm aware is not a crack addict.
He has no say over when, where or with whom we trade, that would be a decision made in a political arena.

[the truth]

brands knows where his t-shirts are made from, he has a price of £60, put on t-shirts that are worth only £5, he is in bed with the big corporation people, his house is in a tax haven area, he loses his temper when being told the truth, when he was on question time, he acted like a prat, saying this needs more money, that needs more money, but he seemed to have no clue, to the fact that, where will this money will come from. hes a dangerous hypocritical fake

[the truth]

Wrong Branson preaches to me often, I am bombarded with mail and adverts for virgin media.
Russel as far as I'm aware is not a crack addict.
He has no say over when, where or with whom we trade, that would be a decision made in a political arena.

That's not preaching its advertising, youre so so naïve bless

[Kizzy]

That's not preaching its advertising, youre so so naïve bless

I'm naive? you're the one who thinks Branson 'flying people into space' is a good idea, how is that going for him?...

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/01/sir-richard-branson-space-tourism-project-doubt