Harry whining on about Marc being disrespectful to women.

[Nancy.]

This coming from someone who has done nothing but crawl up to a 19 year old boy for a showmance and washes the dishes topless.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I see the correlation!

[Withano]

This coming from a scrubber who has done nothing but crawl up to a 19 year old boy for a showmance and washes the dishes topless.

So shes not allowed an opinion about respect?

[Nancy.]

So shes not allowed an opinion about respect?

Respect has to be earned and so far she's done nothing to earn it.

[the_answers]

So shes not allowed an opinion about respect?
Yes maybe she should act on it.

I'm bored of HMs taking the easy option.

Just cos they don't want to confront people over things that are obviously bothering them enough to talk to the camera or tell others about it.

[Withano]

Respect has to be earned and so far she's done nothing to earn it.

But understanding the dictionary definition of respect can be learned at any age.. So why can't she comment on what she finds respectful. (Hint: she can).

[Nancy.]

At the end of the day, respect works both ways. It's not a one way street.

She's only been in there a week and she storms around half naked like she owns the place and then speaks to Marc about 'respect'
The way she spoke to Sam was disgusting, and that's before I get started on her snapping at Simon at every opportunity.
She's a player too. She has a boyfriend and claims she doesn't, she just wants to draw attention to herself. She wouldn't know respect if it came and hit her in the face.

[Lampfan]

At the end of the day, respect works both ways. It's not a one way street.

She seems to be forgetting she's only been in there for a week and she storms around half naked like she runs the place and then speaks to Marc about 'respect'
The way she spoke to Sam was disgusting. and that's before I get started on her snapping at Simon at every opportunity.
She's a player too. She has a boyfriend and claims she doesn't, she just wants to draw attention to herself. She wouldn't know respect if it came and hit her in the face.

Summed up perfectly.

She really is a clown. Nothing but a lemming. She got accepted, now she's being a dick. Weak:sleep:

[Nancy.]

Summed up perfectly.

She really is a clown. Nothing but a lemming. She got accepted, now she's being a dick. Weak:sleep:

Yep.

I was glad when Danny told her to shut up. She seems to get involved in arguments that don't even concern her and that really annoys me. She needs to shut her hole.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So because she's only been there a week and gets naked, she doesn't deserve any respect.

Makes sense...

[Nancy.]

So because she's only been there a week and gets naked, she doesn't deserve any respect.

Makes sense...

Maybe you should read the rest of the post instead of cherry picking certain parts.

[Lampfan]

So because she's only been there a week and gets naked, she doesn't deserve any respect.

Makes sense...

Please.

Stop looking to be offended.

Harry is trying way too hard to please the originals and making a t*t of herself in the process. Pun intended :laugh:

[the_answers]

She started off well voicing her opinions.
Now she's retreated into 'group cosy' with their (including Danny's) blessing.

Bet you she doesn't cook in the nude anymore.
Or if she does, Danny won't make any issue unless they see her as out of the group.

[armand.kay]

I'm sure if a man were to get nude or walk around topless they would still be entitled to be respected so I don't see why Harry can't expect the same. This is 2015 not 1956 can we not with the slut shaming and double standards.

[Jack_]

I'm sure if a man were to get nude or walk around topless they would still be entitled to be respected so I don't see why Harry can't expect the same. This is 2015 not 1956 can we not with the slut shaming and double standards.

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Nancy.]

I really can't stand her.

Aside from being a hypocrite, she is NO where near as attractive as she thinks she is. Take away her penchant for showing the world every nook and cranny of her very ordinary body and she'd be nothing more than background noise. She is flashing her way to the final by using the oldest trick in the book and the desperado's of the house can't even see it. At least Cristian and Danny have standards.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes, by emulating BB15 finalist Biannca Lake, Harry is really paving her way to the final.

[Nancy.]

yes, by emulating BB15 finalist Biannca Lake, Harry is really paving her way to the final.

BB 2015 is the first i've watched since it moved to CH5, So your comment is invalid.

[Macie Lightfoot]

You not watching BB15 doesn't make the post invalid lmfao maybe just check your facts?

[Lampfan]

I'm sure if a man were to get nude or walk around topless they would still be entitled to be respected so I don't see why Harry can't expect the same. This is 2015 not 1956 can we not with the slut shaming and double standards.

Yes and this is also the real world. The world where men don't have breasts and women do. The same world that has underwear for breasts. Shocking, I know.

Now before you pull the " but men can be topless" tripe. Just evaluate....... Honestly.

[Nancy.]

You not watching BB15 doesn't make the post invalid lmfao maybe just check your facts?

It does when you're addressing me and I don't know who the hell you're talking about. Maybe you should quit trying to score points and go re-watch some clips of Harry with her tits out. It's obviously all you're interested in.

[Macie Lightfoot]

No it doesn't. You insisted that Harry's flashing her way to the final when that has never worked and is certainly not going to work this time. Like, hello, the public looks for reasons to hate women and she's giving them two big ones. Again, check your facts.

[Nancy.]

No it doesn't. You insisted that Harry's flashing her way to the final when that has never worked and is certainly not going to work this time. Like, hello, the public looks for reasons to hate women and she's giving them two big ones. Again, check your facts.

Actually, maybe YOU should check yours. If the public looked for reasons to hate women then how come Katie Price won?

What about Helen Wood, Kate Lawler or Josie Gibson?

Your post is flawed and full of holes. Try again.

[the_answers]

I'm sure if a man were to get nude or walk around topless they would still be entitled to be respected so I don't see why Harry can't expect the same. This is 2015 not 1956 can we not with the slut shaming and double standards.
She can do what she likes as far as I'm concerned.
Just saying in there, it's probably more about gameplaying than being offended.
Really don't think Danny even cares either.
What does he care they're out in the kitchen but the garden is fine ?
He's so slimy.

[Macie Lightfoot]

You're looking at this as if it's all or nothing. Just because women occasionally win (even though if Kate and Josie acted like, say, Jonny and John James they wouldn't stand a shot) doesn't mean that the GBP is never sexist [/i] ever.

Same with Helen winning, even though that's really just another version of the same **** that happens on Channel 5, where having a resume of offensive **** is actually a huge advantage because their "journey" is often them just showing that they're capable of basic human emotions.

You're equating me defending Harry getting naked to me being a fan of Katie Price when those two things don't really have anything to do with each other.

[armand.kay]

Yes and this is also the real world. The world where men don't have breasts and women do. The same world that has underwear for breasts. Shocking, I know.

Now before you pull the " but men can be topless" tripe. Just evaluate....... Honestly.

1) many cultures don't even make as big of a deal out of breasts as we do. For instance when I went to Rwanda women walked around with no tops on and none made a big deal about it.... Also we've had many fatties in the fast who've walked around topless with moobs bigger than harry's and that was never a problem...

2) Bras were only invented like 100 years ago and their function was to replace bulky corsets as dresses were getting sleeker and corsets were just to bulky. Now a days there are used more to keep breasts from sagging.

I don't get what your point was but ok.

[Lampfan]

She can do what she likes as far as I'm concerned.
Just saying in there, it's probably more about gameplaying than being offended.
Really don't think Danny even cares either.
What does he care they're out in the kitchen but the garden is fine ?
He's so slimy.

Cool. I'll walk with my c*ck out if we ever happen to share a house. It wouldn't offend you and I like that. You also have no concept of decency which makes me even hungrier. Lets exchange numbers.

p.s. I aint wearing underwear (i know you like that) :cheer2:

[the_answers]

Never said I wanted to see it.

[armand.kay]

lmao wtf :umm2:

[Nancy.]

You're equating me defending Harry getting naked to me being a fan of Katie Price when those two things don't really have anything to do with each other.

http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif

Nothing to do with each other??? You can't be serious?

Both of those women are known for getting naked and showing the country their tits. If you think there's no connection then i'm afraid, I really can't help you.

Off to bed now. This is boring.

[armand.kay]

http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif

Nothing to do with each other??? You can't be serious?

Both of those women are known for getting naked and showing the country their tits. If you think there's no connection then i'm afraid, I really can't help you.

Off to bed now. This is boring.

Isn't your fave Eileen who's been in porn :laugh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif

Nothing to do with each other??? You can't be serious?

Both of those women are known for getting naked and showing the country their tits. If you think there's no connection then i'm afraid, I really can't help you.

Off to bed now. This is boring.

Katie's time in the house (again, which you wouldn't know about) was far different from harry's time in the house so far, so they're not comparable. And for the record, I don't live in the UK so I'm not all that familiar with KP's preshow stuff, or anyone else's. Me liking Katie Price literally only comes from her time in the house.

[Nancy.]

Isn't your fave Eileen who's been in porn :laugh:
I've never pretended otherwise. At least Eileen knew that respect worked both ways and didn't parade around the BB house with her baps out.

[Nancy.]

Katie's time in the house (again, which you wouldn't know about) was far different from harry's time in the house so far, so they're not comparable. And for the record, I don't live in the UK so I'm not all that familiar with KP's preshow stuff, or anyone else's. Me liking Katie Price literally only comes from her time in the house.

How convenient.

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay? That doesn't change the fact that her time in the house really wasn't anything like what she was known for beforehand.

[armand.kay]

Oh I see. So much traveled. My bad

So I gather you are not an idiot, so why you think bringing up a 3rd world culture is helping you make your point from your tablet/smartphone I have no idea.

I always thought bra's were for comfort. How was I to know that they are a tool to keep women down? :shrug:
what does this even mean?

Rwanda was in response to you saying that we live in the real world where women have breasts and men don't. I brought it up to show that the western attitude to women's bodies is not universal or necessarily the right attitude. I don't get how your tablet/ smart phone argument is even relevant.

I never said bras were a tool to keep women down what are you on about :umm2:

[armand.kay]

I've never pretended otherwise. At least Eileen knew that respect worked both ways and didn't parade around the BB house with her baps out.

Katie didn't parade around the house with her boobs out tho :shrug:

[Lampfan]

what does this even mean?

Rwanda was in response to you saying that we live in the real world where women have breasts and men don't. I brought it up to show that the western attitude to women's bodies is not universal or necessarily the right attitude. I don't get how your tablet/ smart phone argument is even relevant.

I never said bras were a tool to keep women down what are you on about :umm2:

Let's not argue. Dont want that. My bra comment was obviously sarcasm.

My point was that you keep bringing up Rwanda. We don't live in Rwanda so stop trying to use it as an argument. It's irony.

We live in the west, boobs are boobs. You shouldn't do the dishes with your boobs out. You might feel empowered but what about the people you are living with?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Most of the people Harry's living with were laughing at and encouraging what Aaron did to Joel so should they really have a problem with Harry doing the dishes with her boobs out?

[Amy Jade]

Armand and Macie :worship:

[reece(:]

Armand and Macie :worship:
This.

[Vanessa]

I really can't stand Harry. She's joined the pack who has been isolating Simon and was really mean to him. Who the hell does she think she is? Glad Danny told her to shut up. And yes : she's using a showmance to try and stay longer. Without it she would be wallpaper.

[JayBlaze]

Harry's mother must be so proud seeing her daughter with her tits out every night on national television

[Ammi]

..I really struggle to get my head around this stuff with Harry and her nakedness...I think there is so much pressure put on young girls that makes them so self conscious of body image and makes them so unhappy and wanting to have surgery etc when they're perfectly beautiful already...and Harry is someone who seems perfectly confident in her appearance and her body as it is naturally, which is just so refreshing to see and she's constantly called things like 'slut' because of that confidence...surely that would all just be adding to young girl's insecurities in general....she's even had her boobs 'rated' because they're natural.../odd...

[Spoon]

Armand and Macie :worship:

same.

[JTM45]

I think it's pretty sad to be calling Harry 'a scrubber'.:rolleyes:
It's not a nice thing to call anyone but when she actually isn't one it just makes the person using the term look pretty lame really.

[the truth]

why is it always about respect to women? hows about respect to men?

[the truth]

..I really struggle to get my head around this stuff with Harry and her nakedness...I think there is so much pressure put on young girls that makes them so self conscious of body image and makes them so unhappy and wanting to have surgery etc when they're perfectly beautiful already...and Harry is someone who seems perfectly confident in her appearance and her body as it is naturally, which is just so refreshing to see and she's constantly called things like 'slut' because of that confidence...surely that would all just be adding to young girl's insecurities in general....she's even had her boobs 'rated' because they're natural.../odd...

goodness me what a load of nonsense...so exhibitonists like her and marc are heroes now? liberalism gone mad

[Ammi]

goodness me what a load of nonsense...so exhibitonists like her and marc are heroes now? liberalism gone mad

..I'm not sure where I said that either Harry or Marc had hero qualities, truth...that certainly would be an extreme in the same way as referring to someone as a slut because they have a tendency to show their bodies and be confident doing so....

[Beso]

This coming from a scrubber who has done nothing but crawl up to a 19 year old boy for a showmance and washes the dishes topless.

What the **** has that got to do with Marc being an aggressive knobhead towards young girls..see he won't push it with harry mind eh, cause she has a mouth and will answer back....showing him up for the bullying coward he really is.

[Beso]

I've never pretended otherwise. At least Eileen knew that respect worked both ways and didn't parade around the BB house with her baps out.

Harry says she walks about naked at home, therefore it could be argued she is being her true self for us the viewers to enjoy, now please have a long lay in today cause you are a wee bit boring and single minded.

[Lstan]

I agree with Ammi its great Harry is very confident in her appearence but I do think its a bit risky cooking/washing naked what with hot water/oil, I would worry about getting my sensitive bits scortched! Also It doesnt seem to be the fact shes naked but how much shes naked-other housemates have been naked but not constantly and thats what they (and apparently the viewing public according to the online search engines) are complaining about.

[Ammi]

I agree with Ammi its great Harry is very confident in her appearence but I do think its a bit risky cooking/washing naked what with hot water/oil, I would worry about getting my sensitive bits scortched! Also It doesnt seem to be the fact shes naked but how much shes naked-other housemates have been naked but not constantly and thats what they (and apparently the viewing public according to the online search engines) are complaining about.

..yeah I am surprised that BB haven't said that she has to wear clothing while preparing food and being around hot stuff in the kitchen etc because of the hygiene and safety factor...(feels like Mario but she wouldn't have got away with it on his watch..:fist:..)...

..I guess we don't really know how much she is naked but assume it's a lot because of comments by the other housemates but we're being 'edited' her nakedness...I think the thing with Marc when they were handcuffed though..(and especially with Aaron invading Joel's personal space when he was naked and being ejected for it..)...was something that she did on purpose because he had protested so much so it was a tit for tat thing/excuse the pun...still though, them being handcuffed together, was that hypocritical of BB and wrong for BB to allow her nakedness on that occasion..?...hmmmm...

[Lstan]

..yeah I am surprised that BB haven't said that she has to wear clothing while preparing food and being around hot stuff in the kitchen etc because of the hygiene and safety factor...(feels like Mario but she wouldn't have got away with it on his watch..:fist:..)...

..I guess we don't really know how much she is naked but assume it's a lot because of comments by the other housemates but we're being 'edited' her nakedness...I think the thing with Marc when they were handcuffed though..(and especially with Aaron invading Joel's personal space when he was naked and being ejected for it..)...was something that she did on purpose because he had protested so much so it was a tit for tat thing/excuse the pun...still though, them being handcuffed together, was that hypocritical of BB and wrong for BB to allow her nakedness on that occasion..?...hmmmm...

I mean personally I dont have a problem with it but everyone is different and yeah from a hygiene perspective I could see that plus Im not in the house-I just worry shes gonna get her nips burnt washing the dishes!

[Ammi]

I mean personally I dont have a problem with it but everyone is different and yeah from a hygiene perspective I could see that plus Im not in the house-I just worry shes gonna get her nips burnt washing the dishes!

..see, I just google heat proof tassles, Lstan because I thought that we'd come up with a solution but there are no images coming up...so maybe we should get together and invent these things for the safety of our housemates...

[ebandit]

I've never pretended otherwise. At least Eileen knew that respect worked both ways and didn't parade around the BB house with her baps out.

i bet she would have done........if she were younger

Mark L

[Ammi]

..Dragon's Den, Lstan..?...I reckon Deborah Meadon would invest....

[ebandit]

Katie didn't parade around the house with her boobs out tho :shrug:

i bet she would have done.........if they were not damaged goods

Mark L

[Lstan]

..Dragon's Den, Lstan..?...I reckon Deborah Meadon would invest....

Sounds like a winner to me Ammi! Maybe we could make em so they dispense washing up liquid when you squease....um...:hehe:nevermind

:laugh:

[Mick]

Well she has earned some respect from myself.Her body looks good enough but I don't get the naked bit but when challenged she gave an honest response that some male viewers and lesbians might like to look.I find her more attractive with her clothes on I thought she looked good in that dress at the tea party.

I respect the fact that she stands up to marc few do and often she puts herself in this danger zone by defending others.I liked her thoughts about how wrong it was for him to trash food when people in some parts of the world are suffering genuine starvation.

It appears from last nights show that marc now intends to target her if this happens I hope she receives support from some of the others.I like her and on balance I think the girls doing good.

[Ammi]

Sounds like a winner to me Ammi! Maybe we could make em so they dispense washing up liquid when you squease....um...:hehe:nevermind

:laugh:

..OMG, that sounds too fabulous..:amazed:..we'll get the technical team in right now...

[MrWong]

This coming from a scrubber who has done nothing but crawl up to a 19 year old boy for a showmance and washes the dishes topless.

So he's sexist and she's an exhibitionist.

I know which is worse.

[waterhog]

This coming from a scrubber who has done nothing but crawl up to a 19 year old boy for a showmance and washes the dishes topless.

she has started off a new trend - everyone in my road now does this. :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

Respect has to be earned, its a not a God given right, and whop would respect her the way she carries on ?

[Liam-]

Respect has to be earned, its a not a God given right, and whop would respect her the way she carries on ?

I do, I see no reason not to respect her

[chuff me dizzy]

I do, I see no reason not to respect her

:whistle:

[Liam-]

Taking your clothes off =/= someone who doesn't deserve respect, be it man or woman.

[joeysteele]

I think some of Marc's comments are disrespectful to women,they are to some of the men too.
However I doubt Harry as much real idea as to what respect is anyway.

[jennyjuniper]

Harry is so busy trying to throw the new housemates under the bus. So far she's had a go at Simon, Sam and Marc, all within 24 hours. As it was just before nominations, it isn't hard to see why she's doing it.
I liked her apparent openness at first, but there is definately a sneaky side to Harry. Mind you, that could be said of most of them in there.

[Nancy.]

Harry says she walks about naked at home, therefore it could be argued she is being her true self for us the viewers to enjoy, now please have a long lay in today cause you are a wee bit boring and single minded.

Predictable and very lazy response! (as usual)

So it's beyond the realm of possibility that she could be lying just to get airtime?

Firstly, if most people answered the door naked to the postman (like she said she does) they would be up for indecent exposure. and secondly, if she truly respected men she wouldn't put them in such an awkward position in the first place. She keeps muttering on about "respect for women" but it's not a one way street. It needs to be earned.

[Beso]

Oh yeah cause of course the postie will go straight to the police..lol

[Nancy.]

Oh yeah cause of course the postie will go straight to the police..lol

Erm, if a postman is offended enough, then yes, they will report it. You're simply judging others by what you would do. (Or wouldn't in this case)

[Kazanne]

At the end of the day, respect works both ways. It's not a one way street.

She's only been in there a week and she storms around half naked like she owns the place and then speaks to Marc about 'respect'
The way she spoke to Sam was disgusting, and that's before I get started on her snapping at Simon at every opportunity.
She's a player too. She has a boyfriend and claims she doesn't, she just wants to draw attention to herself. She wouldn't know respect if it came and hit her in the face.

:clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Predictable and very lazy response! (as usual)

So it's beyond the realm of possibility that she could be lying just to get airtime?

Firstly, if most people answered the door naked to the postman (like she said she does) they would be up for indecent exposure. and secondly, if she truly respected men she wouldn't put them in such an awkward position in the first place. She keeps muttering on about "respect for women" but it's not a one way street. It needs to be earned.

The opening door to the postman naked is utter bollox ,she's just a dirty skank ,who thinks her tits will save her from eviction

[Kazanne]

Predictable and very lazy response! (as usual)

So it's beyond the realm of possibility that she could be lying just to get airtime?

Firstly, if most people answered the door naked to the postman (like she said she does) they would be up for indecent exposure. and secondly, if she truly respected men she wouldn't put them in such an awkward position in the first place. She keeps muttering on about "respect for women" but it's not a one way street. It needs to be earned.

Exactly,she has been told some of the housemates feel uncomfortable,and she has ignored them,no respect for their feelings at all,such a desperado,imo.

[Knispel]

She walks around in a house with her tits out and getting her fanny out and then complains about a lack of respect from him :sleep:

[chuff me dizzy]

She walks around in a house with her tits out and getting her fanny out and then complains about a lack of respect from him :sleep:

:clap1:

[Liam-]

'that woman is naked, let's disrespect her because she's confident enough with her body and herself to be naked'

That's not a very good attitude to have in the world.

[bots]

She walks around in a house with her tits out and getting her fanny out and then complains about a lack of respect from him :sleep:

Its quite funny though really. They both stir it up, and are both competing for the same space, just with their own approaches. In a normal world, neither would get an invite round for tea and cake

[Kazanne]

Oh yeah cause of course the postie will go straight to the police..lol

Thank God some men are not rendered slobbering messes at the sight of a naked woman,and think they are there for their enjoyment.

[Nancy.]

Taking your clothes off =/= someone who doesn't deserve respect, be it man or woman.

No, The sheer arrogance to put people in an uncomfortable situation in the first place and not giving a sh!te how they feel just screams to me that she doesn't respect others.

[Nancy.]

The opening door to the postman naked is utter bollox ,she's just a dirty skank ,who thinks her tits will save her from eviction

Absolutely! :dance:

[y.winter]

One can be confident with his/her body and still wear something on (super-slim thong is not qualified as a decent 'something').
It's cheap and low, and that's why you don't do it yourselves in real life, even alone at home.

[bots]

Thank God some men are not rendered slobbering messes at the sight of a naked woman,and think they are there for their enjoyment.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/Jauhara/homer-drool.gif

[Knispel]

'that woman is naked, let's disrespect her because she's confident enough with her body and herself to be naked'

That's not a very good attitude to have in the world.

Its disrespectful to walk around naked if other housemates are uncomfortable with it and have asked her not to do it so your argument doesnt really figure when someone demands respect who doesnt respect others. Thats also not a very good attitude to have in the world is it :joker:

[Kazanne]

'that woman is naked, let's disrespect her because she's confident enough with her body and herself to be naked'

That's not a very good attitude to have in the world.

It's not a good attitude to have for people to have thinking what she is doing is 'ok' getting naked for no particular reason than currying favour with the 'boys' and votes on National TV with a houseful of strangers,so how far do you go with this ? is this "ok to be naked" just for a certain age group or do you think it stands for everyone?

[Kazanne]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/Jauhara/homer-drool.gif

:joker::joker: just missing the raincoat:hehe:

[smudgie]

It's a weird one, on one hand she may be comfy walking around naked at home and she considers the house as home, on the other hand, she should respect the comfort of her housemates.
If they are really uncomfortable with her walking around naked then perhaps she would be wise to cover up.
It would not bother me personally, apart from when she js in the kitchen, then she should wear a pinny/apron for health and hygiene purposes.
The fact that she likes to be naked hardly makes her a scrubber or any other derogative word people feel they have any right to call women.
She is 100% correct about Marc being disrespectful to the women in the house, but he treats the men pretty much the same, so in fact he is just a normal asshole.

[Nancy.]

Thank God some men are not rendered slobbering messes at the sight of a naked woman,and think they are there for their enjoyment.

Yes, thankfully some men have standards.

[Nancy.]

Its disrespectful to walk around naked if other housemates are uncomfortable with it and have asked her not to do it so your argument doesnt really figure when someone demands respect who doesnt respect others. Thats also not a very good attitude to have in the world is it :joker:

BOOM!!!!!!!!!! :cheer2:

[ebandit]

Respect has to be earned, its a not a God given right, and whop would respect her the way she carries on ?


but is that reason to dis-respect her?.................

and i am not offended by a little flesh......................being an insulting sexist
seems.............way worse.............

Mark L

[chuff me dizzy]

but is that reason to dis-respect her?.................

and i am not offended by a little flesh......................being an insulting sexist
seems.............way worse.............

Mark L

She's no respect for herself, so why should others have it for her,she sells her body daily and thinks we want to look at her bum cheeks and tits, well news for you Harry, we don't

[Liam-]

Since when has getting naked equated to having no self respect?.. also, again, she doesn't 'sell her body' she's not a prostitute :joker:

[Kizzy]

I think it's a bit rich for an exhibitionist to start commenting on the hang ups of others... :/

[ebandit]

She's no respect for herself, so why should others have it for her,she sells her body daily and thinks we want to look at her bum cheeks and tits, well news for you Harry, we don't

she seems to have plenty of self respect............she is always well

presented/articulate............her choice of profession doe's not impinge on

others ( remember marc doe's very similar to harry...........)

............however there is no excuse for marc's provocative insults/ put

downs

Mark L

[chuff me dizzy]

Since when has getting naked equated to having no self respect?.. also, again, she doesn't 'sell her body' she's not a prostitute :joker:

She's on national tv, Dannys told her ,he and others are not comfortable with her doing it ,and as for her chosen profession ,she's as near to a prostitute as you can get

[Liam-]

She's on national tv, Dannys told her ,he and others are not comfortable with her doing it ,and as for her chosen profession ,she's as near to a prostitute as you can get

So what about Marc then, who literally takes his clothes off for money, does that make him lack self respect? are you going to call him all the names under the sun for doing so? he doesn't wear a lot of clothes around the house either.

[Nancy.]

She'll be out soon enough anyway. I suspect Danny and Sam have already given her a nomination

[chuff me dizzy]

So what about Marc then, who literally takes his clothes off for money, does that make him lack self respect? are you going to call him all the names under the sun for doing so? he doesn't wear a lot of clothes around the house either.

She a woman flashing her tits and arse cheeks, the housemates (apart from Jack,who's getting off on it ) don't like it,simple as

[Liam-]

She a woman flashing her tits and arse cheeks, the housemates (apart from Jack,who's getting off on it ) don't like it,simple as

That's not the question i asked you, nice dodge though.

[Kazanne]

Since when has getting naked equated to having no self respect?.. also, again, she doesn't 'sell her body' she's not a prostitute :joker:

It's not about getting naked as such,it's about doing it infront of virtual strangers and on national TV,funny how the ones defending her seem to be young males:joker: no point debating really,she gives you a freebie,knock yourself out:laugh:

[Liam-]

It's not about getting naked as such,it's about doing it infront of virtual strangers and on national TV,funny how the ones defending her seem to be young males:joker: no point debating really,she gives you a freebie,knock yourself out:laugh:

That's the thing, I'm not interesting in what she's showing in the slightest, it's the wrong anatomy for my liking, so that's not why I'm sticking up for her :laugh:
I'm sticking up for her because of the blatant sexism that comes with the abuse she is receiving.

[Kazanne]

So what about Marc then, who literally takes his clothes off for money, does that make him lack self respect? are you going to call him all the names under the sun for doing so? he doesn't wear a lot of clothes around the house either.

He doesn't wear a lot of clothes no,BUT,he does wear some,that's the difference ,even when taking a shower he had his pants on outside,what they do in their private lives is up to them,but on a TV show,NO,it's desperate.

[chuff me dizzy]

It's not about getting naked as such,it's about doing it infront of virtual strangers and on national TV,funny how the ones defending her seem to be young males:joker: no point debating really,she gives you a freebie,knock yourself out:laugh:

Like Jack is doing nightly !! :tongue:

[Lstan]

It's not about getting naked as such,it's about doing it infront of virtual strangers and on national TV,funny how the ones defending her seem to be young males:joker: no point debating really,she gives you a freebie,knock yourself out:laugh:

Its not even that Kazanne its the hyprocisy-the fact they turn around and bitch about the male housemates doing it-whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Perhaps we should give up its quite clear they cant think straight as all that blood has rushed somewhere else eh Kazanne :laugh:

[Cherie]

Harry is full of double standards, she called Marc a **** before going on to detail how he was disrespectful to women, but where was her respect for Sam who was meant to be ignored (no one said she couldn't speak) where did she get off shouting abuse at her from the Sky Room when she was meant to be ignoring her, worried the cameras wouldn't be on her and that Sam might steal her thunder by going into the pool with the bag on her head :idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

That's not the question i asked you, nice dodge though.

I dodged nothing, no one else in theres has stood fully nude talking about shaving their fanny on national tv, no one else has been asked to cover up BIG difference

[chuff me dizzy]

Harry is full of double standards, she called Marc a **** before going on to detail how he was disrespectful to women, but where was her respect for Sam who was meant to be ignored (no one said she couldn't speak) where did she get off shouting abuse at her from the Sky Room when she was meant to be ignoring her, worried the cameras wouldn't be on her and that Sam might steal her thunder by going into the pool with the bag on her head :idc:

Well spotted Cherie !!!

[Lstan]

Harry is full of double standards, she called Marc a **** before going on to detail how he was disrespectful to women, but where was her respect for Sam who was meant to be ignored (no one said she couldn't speak) where did she get off shouting abuse at her from the Sky Room when she was meant to be ignoring her, worried the cameras wouldn't be on her and that Sam might steal her thunder by going into the pool with the bag on her head :idc:

I felt really bad for Sam in that task.

[Liam-]

He doesn't wear a lot of clothes no,BUT,he does wear some,that's the difference ,even when taking a shower he had his pants on outside,what they do in their private lives is up to them,but on a TV show,NO,it's desperate.

Harry wears some clothes as well, on last nights show she was wearing a bikini and a dress and then later on trousers and a jumper, only once did we see her out of them last night and that's when she was changing, it's not like she's constantly naked.

Even when she was doing the dishes, she had a thong on covering the main bits, so what's the difference between that and Marc walking around with just a bit of foil on his todger? :shrug:

[Kazanne]

That's the thing, I'm not interesting in what she's showing in the slightest, it's the wrong anatomy for my liking, so that's not why I'm sticking up for her :laugh:
I'm sticking up for her because of the blatant sexism that comes with the abuse she is receiving.

I'm not being sexist at all, I wouldn't think it was right for any gender to be wafting about naked for no reason all the time.

[Tom4784]

So because she walks around topless she can't drag someone up on being disrespectful to women? What's so shameful about the female form that the presence of a woman's tits is enough to ensure that she can't defend another woman's right (or her own) for respect?

A man is allowed to go topless without anyone batting an eyelid in that house so there's no reason why a woman can't either. It's double standards otherwise.

[Liam-]

Also, if they were so uncomfortable with nakedness, they wouldn't have all been laughing and joking around with Aaron that one night he was parading around bollock naked, so they have no credibility in that area.

[bots]

Forgetting the naked aspect of this for one moment. Harry is just playing a game, getting herself air time, stirring it up amongst the house mates, hedging her bets on house survival by positioning herself with the oldies. It is a strategy that could well keep her in the longest of the newbies.

Given it is a game, and nudity has been done on BB what seems like a million times before, why is it suddenly a big issue. Is it because she is a threat to Marc, or because its suddenly become inappropriate tv .....

[Kazanne]

Harry wears some clothes as well, on last nights show she was wearing a bikini and a dress and then later on trousers and a jumper, only once did we see her out of them last night and that's when she was changing, it's not like she's constantly naked.

Even when she was doing the dishes, she had a thong on covering the main bits, so what's the difference between that and Marc walking around with just a bit of foil on his todger? :shrug:

Liam,If you cant see what she is doing fair enough,some of us see it differently,for instance when she was getting dressed infront of Marc,she really could have done that without him seeing her vag, Tell me honestly ,WHY you think she walks around naked but the others don't?

[Kazanne]

Forgetting the naked aspect of this for one moment. Harry is just playing a game, getting herself air time, stirring it up amongst the house mates, hedging her bets on house survival by positioning herself with the oldies. It is a strategy that could well keep her in the longest of the newbies.

Given it is a game, and nudity has been done on BB what seems like a million times before, why is it suddenly a big issue. Is it because she is a threat to Marc, or because its suddenly become inappropriate tv .....

It's not a big issue we are debating different opinions,imo,Harry does not need to walk round the house naked as often as she does,if she is comfortable with her body,why flaunt it to every Tom,Dick and Harry:laugh: Cover up woman,before you have a nasty accident.

[Liam-]

Liam,If you cant see what she is doing fair enough,some of us see it differently,for instance when she was getting dressed infront of Marc,she really could have done that without him seeing her vag, Tell me honestly ,WHY you think she walks around naked but the others don't?

He could have looked away, it's not either of their faults that they were handcuffed together, she had to change so she changed, he didn't have to see it, he could have easily looked away, which he did in the end.

I think she walks around, topless, she has never walked around fully naked, because she's comfortable like that, everyone knows that women who do that don't win or get very far in the show, so it obviously isn't part of a game plan to win because i don't think anyone is that stupid, it's comfort and something she's just used to, it's not her problem that other people are so seemingly offended by breasts :shrug:

[Beso]

Its not even that Kazanne its the hyprocisy-the fact they turn around and bitch about the male housemates doing it-whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Perhaps we should give up its quite clear they cant think straight as all that blood has rushed somewhere else eh Kazanne :laugh:


Again, what male hms have been wandering about naked?


Difference is its natuatal with harry. As she does it at home, therefore she's being herself, which is why in don't knock her for getting them out.

[Lstan]

Forgetting the naked aspect of this for one moment. Harry is just playing a game, getting herself air time, stirring it up amongst the house mates, hedging her bets on house survival by positioning herself with the oldies. It is a strategy that could well keep her in the longest of the newbies.

Given it is a game, and nudity has been done on BB what seems like a million times before, why is it suddenly a big issue. Is it because she is a threat to Marc, or because its suddenly become inappropriate tv .....

Because at least one of the housemates has complained about it. Nudity on BB isnt a big deal.

[Cherie]

I felt really bad for Sam in that task.

Not a fan but I thought she handled a difficult situation well and didnt deserve the abuse she got from Harry

[bots]

Because at least one of the housemates has complained about it. Nudity on BB isnt a big deal.

and could it be that boring Danny sees her antics and thinks, hell, i can't compete with that, what can I do .... i know, i will say my house finds it uncomfortable. Its just another aspect of the game.

[Lstan]

and could it be that boring Danny sees her antics and thinks, hell, i can't compete with that, what can I do .... i know, i will say my house finds it uncomfortable. Its just another aspect of the game.

No idea
probably
but thats the reason its been brought up

[chuff me dizzy]

Again, what male hms have been wandering about naked?


Difference is its natuatal with harry. As she does it at home, therefore she's being herself, which is why in don't knock her for getting them out.

But she's NOT at home, And in her profession it would take her too long between customers

[Nancy.]

It's not about getting naked as such,it's about doing it infront of virtual strangers and on national TV,funny how the ones defending her seem to be young males:joker: no point debating really,she gives you a freebie,knock yourself out:laugh:

http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smileylool.gif

At the end of the day, this is all it really amounts to.

[chuff me dizzy]

But you don't know if she's being herself at all. You're basically, you're just making up excuses for her because you want to continue ogling her tits. Surely watching porn would achieve the same result for you.

:clap1:

[Nancy.]

Harry is full of double standards, she called Marc a **** before going on to detail how he was disrespectful to women, but where was her respect for Sam who was meant to be ignored (no one said she couldn't speak) where did she get off shouting abuse at her from the Sky Room when she was meant to be ignoring her, worried the cameras wouldn't be on her and that Sam might steal her thunder by going into the pool with the bag on her head :idc:

:clap1:

[James]

Posts deleted. Stop using personal insults against other members.

[y.winter]

So its porn and public nudity justification all in the name of self-confidence nowadays. Cut the pseudo self empowerment a-la-Miley-Cyrus BS.

[Kazanne]

Its not even that Kazanne its the hyprocisy-the fact they turn around and bitch about the male housemates doing it-whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Perhaps we should give up its quite clear they cant think straight as all that blood has rushed somewhere else eh Kazanne :laugh:

:joker::joker:spot on Lstan.

[armand.kay]

So its porn and public nudity justification all in the name of self-confidence nowadays. Cut the pseudo self empowerment a-la-Miley-Cyrus BS.
cut the "breast are bad", low key misogynistic bs http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/f58a8b71.gif

[Kazanne]

He could have looked away, it's not either of their faults that they were handcuffed together, she had to change so she changed, he didn't have to see it, he could have easily looked away, which he did in the end.

I think she walks around, topless, she has never walked around fully naked, because she's comfortable like that, everyone knows that women who do that don't win or get very far in the show, so it obviously isn't part of a game plan to win because i don't think anyone is that stupid, it's comfort and something she's just used to, it's not her problem that other people are so seemingly offended by breasts :shrug:

Jeez,NO ONE is offended by breasts,but surely you can see that a mans chest is not seen as sexual as a womans is ? I feel comfortable in my body but would never go in a houseful of strangers and strip off to demonstrate that,I didn't say it was her gameplan,but I do think she is doing it for a reason,I am comfortable in my jimmies and slippers but wouldn't go shopping in them.

[y.winter]

cut the "breast are bad", low key misogynistic bs http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/f58a8b71.gif

So why are you clothed right now? you were born naked.
Since when walking with a shirt on is an Iran sanction?
Harry is crossing the line of acceptable nudity in public (Mark as well imo), she's wearing less than just being topless, it's rude.

[Vicky.]

Respect has to be earned and so far she's done nothing to earn it.

This was my mother in laws opinion yesterday night too. She laughed out loud when Harry said that D:

[Kizzy]

I think the attitude we have in the UK towards breasts is laughable, in Italy and Spain you see women topless on the beach enjoying time with their families. Elsewhere mothers are nursing and everyone just gets on with their day... Here we are so retentive it's a wonder some haven't been sucked up their own backsides.

[JoshBB]

http://www.spcforexcel.com/files/images/nocorrelation.png

how is disrespect and being confident in your body even related tbh

[wendywillow]

She is flashing her way to the final by using the oldest trick in the book

said no one who watches bb ever. come on, we all know the voters are housewives and teen girls

[Macie Lightfoot]

No, The sheer arrogance to put people in an uncomfortable situation in the first place and not giving a sh!te how they feel just screams to me that she doesn't respect others.

She's on national tv, Dannys told her ,he and others are not comfortable with her doing it ,and as for her chosen profession ,she's as near to a prostitute as you can get

Again, this is a house that laughed at and encouraged Aaron rubbing his genitalia on Joel. Being upset at Harry getting her boobs out is hypocrisy.

[Beso]

Again, this is a house that laughed at and encouraged Aaron rubbing his genitalia on Joel. Being upset at Harry getting her boobs out is hypocrisy.

I get upset at nakedness, oh I know what I can do seeing as I'm such a prude, I'll go on big brother.

To be fair as well, they did ask her if she did the same at home and she said yes. They seem OK after that.

Sort of like when they asked marc if he talked to people like that at work!!!

All theynare doing is sorting out the fakes, and it must be said, doing it very bloody nicely as well.

[Beso]

But she's NOT at home, And in her profession it would take her too long between customers

So you now willing to judge hms on what they do outside the house? Make your bloody mind up chuff ffs.

[Beso]

Erm, if a postman is offended enough, then yes, they will report it. You're simply judging others by what you would do. (Or wouldn't in this case)



FYI the postie and the courts wouldn't have a leg to stand on..unless she opened the door before he rang the bell...which she wouldn't so your point is (as usual) ****.

[Kazanne]

Again, this is a house that laughed at and encouraged Aaron rubbing his genitalia on Joel. Being upset at Harry getting her boobs out is hypocrisy.

Half those housemates have gone!

[Macie Lightfoot]

chuff specifically mentioned Danny, who perhaps egged on Aaron the most.

[Nancy.]

Again, this is a house that laughed at and encouraged Aaron rubbing his genitalia on Joel. Being upset at Harry getting her boobs out is hypocrisy.

Not at all. It's a completely different situation. Harry wasn't intoxicated and laughing and joking when she was walking around the kitchen with her tits hanging out, and she wasn't on any other occasion.

Aaron made a stupid mistake when he was drunk and he apologised for his actions. Harry hasn't apologised for making people feel uncomfortable despite being told by various people. In fact, she's continued to do as she pleases without giving a damn what the others think.

[armand.kay]

I think the attitude we have in the UK towards breasts is laughable, in Italy and Spain you see women topless on the beach enjoying time with their families. Elsewhere mothers are nursing and everyone just gets on with their day... Here we are so retentive it's a wonder some haven't been sucked up their own backsides.

It's ridiculous tbh you can't even breast feed in public here without it being an issue for some.

[Nancy.]

FYI the postie and the courts wouldn't have a leg to stand on..unless she opened the door before he rang the bell...which she wouldn't so your point is (as usual) ****.

http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif

Harry has already admitted to Danny that she opens the door to the postman naked.

and what bloody difference do it make if he rang the doorbell or not? She still opens the door with her wangers hanging out. Jesus Christ....some people.

[ebandit]

It's ridiculous tbh you can't even breast feed in public here without it being an issue for some.


members would only find it an issue.......for HM's they dislike

ie harry............slapper
marc.............funny

Mark L

[Beso]

http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif

If you knew anything about the law (which I doubt), you would know that the police MUST investigate everything that get's reported. Harry has already admitted to Danny that she opens the door to the postman naked.

and what bloody difference do it make if he rang the doorbell or not? She still opens the door with her wangers hanging out. Jesus Christ....some people.

Oh well in the face of all those tremendous facts.:sleep: I must admit you are right:joker:

[Nancy.]

Oh dear. All this anger because we don't agree with you or like seeing a pair of tits plastered all over our screens every night. :dance:

[Macie Lightfoot]

In fact, she's continued to do as she pleases without giving a damn what the others think.

Just like Aaron continued to do as he pleased without giving a damn what Joel thought?

[Beso]

Oh dear. All this anger because we don't agree with you or like to seeing a pair of tits plastered all over our screens every night. :dance:

What anger mate?

I'm ok. Don't flatter yourself.

[Nancy.]

What anger mate?

I'm ok. Don't flatter yourself.

:dance::dance::dance:

[Nancy.]

Just like Aaron continued to do as he pleased without giving a damn what Joel thought?

No, Joel was giggling too. (Like the others). Hardly the actions of someone who was really offended. (Until he realised he had a chance to kick up a stink and get rid of Aaron, of course)

[Kizzy]

No, Joel was giggling too. (Like the others) Hardly the actions of someone who was really offended. (Until he realised he had a chance to kick up a stink and get rid of Aaron, of course)

:clap1:
I don't get Aaron being in the nip and running about is different from Harry neither are or were being sexually aggressive.

[Beso]

No, Joel was giggling too. (Like the others). Hardly the actions of someone who was really offended. (Until he realised he had a chance to kick up a stink and get rid of Aaron, of course)

I had that view at the time, then I took my rose tinted glasses off.

[Nancy.]

:clap1:
I don't get Aaron being in the nip and running about is different from Harry neither are or were being sexually aggressive.

I agree. The only difference is that Aaron was intoxicated and she wasn't.

[Macie Lightfoot]

No, Joel was giggling too. (Like the others). Hardly the actions of someone who was really offended. (Until he realised he had a chance to kick up a stink and get rid of Aaron, of course)

Joel repeatedly told Aaron to stop and was obviously uncomfortable.

:clap1:
I don't get Aaron being in the nip and running about is different from Harry neither are or were being sexually aggressive.

How is using your genitalia to make someone uncomfortable not being sexually aggressive?

I agree. The only difference is that Aaron was intoxicated and she wasn't.

So being drunk makes it okay, gotcha.

[Beso]

Surely it makes for a better hm when they don't need alcohol to be outlandish.

[Nancy.]

Joel repeatedly told Aaron to stop and was obviously uncomfortable.

So being drunk makes it okay, gotcha.

No, it doesn't make it ok...stop twisting my words. I guess you're one of those who have never done anything that you were ashamed of when you were drunk. Such perfection.

and people have told Harry to stop walking around with her tits out....but did she stop...no, she didn't.

[Beso]

Jack should have gave her the overalls if it was that much of a problem.

[Macie Lightfoot]

No, it doesn't make it ok...stop twisting my words. I guess you're one of those who have never done anything that you were ashamed of when you were drunk. Such perfection.

and people have told Harry to stop walking around with her tits out....but did she stop...no, she didn't.

Again, just like how Joel told Aaron to stop, and he did the exact opposite and rubbed his dick on him. Drunk or not, you have no one to blame for your actions but yourself. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

[Kizzy]

Are you uncomfortable if you're stood there laughing your arse off now? :/
Pfft ..the whole 'in the nip' thing is so boring, prudes should bore off and watch bake off or somesuch thing.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Joel wasn't laughing his ass off :rolleyes: it's pretty clear that any laughter on his part was a nervous reaction and being unsure what to do, not enjoyment. This is really embarrassing that people are still defending Aaron / trying to victim-blame, though it is nice to see that people are imaginative enough to expand their repertoire if something happens to a dude.

[Lstan]

What anger mate?

I'm ok. Don't flatter yourself.

The anger that got half our posts deleted.

[Lstan]

:joker::joker:spot on Lstan.

We so called it Kazanne-do you remember last summer and the fights over Ashlyene?

[Speedster]

So because she's only been there a week and gets naked, she doesn't deserve any respect.

Makes sense...


:cheer:

[Speedster]

No it doesn't. You insisted that Harry's flashing her way to the final when that has never worked and is certainly not going to work this time. Like, hello, the public looks for reasons to hate women and she's giving them two big ones. Again, check your facts.



:cheer: :clap:

[Kazanne]

We so called it Kazanne-do you remember last summer and the fights over Ashlyene?

ha,ha,yes loved it:wavey:

[Kizzy]

Joel wasn't laughing his ass off :rolleyes: it's pretty clear that any laughter on his part was a nervous reaction and being unsure what to do, not enjoyment. This is really embarrassing that people are still defending Aaron / trying to victim-blame, though it is nice to see that people are imaginative enough to expand their repertoire if something happens to a dude.

What happened, did I miss something?... blown out of all proportion is what it was.

[Nancy.]

Again, just like how Joel told Aaron to stop, and he did the exact opposite and rubbed his dick on him. Drunk or not, you have no one to blame for your actions but yourself. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

and again, Aaron was intoxicated and fooling around - Little miss droopy teets had full control of her faculties and didn't have an audience to egg her on like Aaron did. You can go around in circles as much as you like but the fact is If Joel was THAT uncomfortable with it, he should have immediately gone to the diary room and spoke to BB. NOT giggle and stay in exact place where he felt uneasy. Removing yourself from a situation you're uncomfortable with is really not that difficult to do, is it? (even for you)

[wendywillow]

Not at all. It's a completely different situation. Harry wasn't intoxicated and laughing and joking when she was walking around the kitchen with her tits hanging out, and she wasn't on any other occasion.

Aaron made a stupid mistake when he was drunk and he apologised for his actions. Harry hasn't apologised for making people feel uncomfortable despite being told by various people. In fact, she's continued to do as she pleases without giving a damn what the others think.

wait....so ur siding with aaron who was rubbing his penis against an unwilling partner, but harry was in the wrong for taking her top off and minding her own business doing dishes. we have truly entered the bizarro universe here

[wendywillow]

Little miss droopy teets

and they're really not that droopy :shrug:

[JayBlaze]

No one needs to disrespect Harry, she does it herself. Can just imagine people saying to her mum "saw your lovely lass on telly lastnight, she had her tits out again. What a wonderful young girl you've raised":joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

"To be honest, I didn't know how to react because it's never happened to me before."

-Joel, after having Aaron's dong smeared on him while the rest of the house laughed and encouraged it, after the whole house tried to get them to kiss during truth or dare even though he repeatedly said no, etc.

Aaron being intoxicated and "fooling around" doesn't change the situation. Joel only saying no doesn't change the situation. Etc.

[Nancy.]

wait....so ur siding with aaron who was rubbing his penis against an unwilling partner, but harry was in the wrong for taking her top off and minding her own business doing dishes.

Listen, It's clear that people have already made up their minds and will disagree, so let's just leave it here.

[the truth]

shes a snake. totally playing a boy. thankfully even though she will rip his heart out and feed it to the lions, he will keep back 10% of himself, mainly his intelligence and after a few weeks will rebuild himself. she is the nastiest in there but shes playing the sneakiest game. marc has sussed her out but hes too dumb to sit down and work her out and work out a plan how to expose her....playing with a teenagers heart is a sick game and it takes a real cold hearted assassin

[wendywillow]

Listen, I have plenty more to say on this but it's clear that people have already made up their minds and will disagree, so let's just leave it here.

what fun is that ?
:blush:
if we all agreed this place would get pretty boring.
:sleep:
I just wish the twins and harriet were there for the boob-fest. the fur would fly

[Dollface]

This coming from someone who has done nothing but crawl up to a 19 year old boy for a showmance and washes the dishes topless.

I don't see how crawling up to a 19 year old boy and washing the dishes topless have anything to do with disrespecting women???

[liqidclark]

I haven't seen Harry disrespect herself or women in general. If anything, she's stood up to Marc's misogynistic "banter" more than anyone else in there.

Whining is what Marc is doing because he can't manipulate or intimidate Harry. It hurts his fragile ego.

[the truth]

I don't see how crawling up to a 19 year old boy and washing the dishes topless have anything to do with disrespecting women???

its disrespectful to men. danny and posh boy have made it clear theyr euncomfortable with her being naked all the kitchen and danny feels its unhygienic around the food. she ignored it , its a womans right....one guy who showed his bits got booted 2 years ago?