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arista
09-06-2015, 05:49 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/6/9/398010/default/v5/cegrab-20150609-162826-164-1-762x428.jpg
[The UK Government has given planning permission for the world's first tidal lagoon to be built off Swansea.

It is claimed the £1bn underwater power station will generate energy for up to 175,000 homes and last for 120 years.]
http://news.sky.com/story/1499090/uk-to-get-underwater-power-station

We need many more of these underwater projects


Report Just on SkyBusiness Report
with Ian King Live SkyNewsHD

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/6/9/398009/default/v4/cegrab-20150609-163106-164-1-480x360.jpg
[The seawall will be six miles long. ]

Pic: Tidal Lagoon Power

the truth
09-06-2015, 06:00 PM
wow. whats the downside here? any dangers?

arista
09-06-2015, 06:14 PM
wow. whats the downside here? any dangers?


No Danger
for sensible people

JoshBB
09-06-2015, 06:33 PM
Very sensible! Finally this government is taking climate change and our carbon footprint seriously.

I've been saying for ages, if people don't want wind farms on our green belt, then why don't we make use of the sea? Great to that our island status is actually being made use of.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still never vote for them because I disagree with the tories on virtually everything, but where credit is due I will give it. This will also help to solve our unemployment for low-skilled workers. Would make a nice walk too!

Would be good to have more of these around the country.

I think it would be much better to have energy nationalised as well though, because once they are built we wouldn't have to pay companies to make profits, and instead reduce energy bills

arista
09-06-2015, 06:41 PM
Yes we need many more.
they was a Future Film in 1976 that had water power
at the end of the film

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81xpuIdAaOL._SL1500_.jpg

JoshBB
09-06-2015, 06:42 PM
Do you think energy would work better nationalised too arista?

arista
09-06-2015, 06:44 PM
Do you think energy would work better nationalised too arista?



we need so many more
so until then we need Nuclear Power
or the lights go out

JoshBB
09-06-2015, 06:50 PM
Of Course
but we need so many more
so until then we need Nuclear Power
or the lights go out

I think you may have misunderstood. I mean do you think energy as a sector should be renationalised (unprivatised)

I would obviously like to scrap nuclear and coal etc as a green party member (obviously I also recognise we still need nuclear for now, but could be phased out within around 30 years if we wanted to, possibly less) but I also think if we had it owned by the government we could have much better results.

arista
09-06-2015, 06:56 PM
I think you may have misunderstood. I mean do you think energy as a sector should be renationalised (unprivatised)

I would obviously like to scrap nuclear and coal etc as a green party member (obviously I also recognise we still need nuclear for now, but could be phased out within around 30 years if we wanted to, possibly less) but I also think if we had it owned by the government we could have much better results.


That will Never Happen
The world has moved on

JoshBB
09-06-2015, 07:04 PM
That will Never Happen
The world has moved on

This is slightly old, but probably still valid.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/11/04/nationalise-energy-and-rail-companies-say-public/

What is your opinion on it?

arista
09-06-2015, 07:41 PM
This is slightly old, but probably still valid.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/11/04/nationalise-energy-and-rail-companies-say-public/

What is your opinion on it?


The problem is
Its Worldwide Owners now
so The Public may want it
but all those in "Main" power
will not allow it.

the truth
09-06-2015, 09:17 PM
i also think energy should be nationalized , I mean privatising water is a joke....welsh water are the only suppliers in most of wales, wheres the free market competiton...and all vat should be scrapped on all energy bills
we also need the severn barrage, which is 25 years over due...we have the second highest most powerful tides in the world , use it for goodness sakes
as for coal, coal production is up 30% in Germany as they use cutting edge technology to find the best seams and liquefy the coal...its far far cleaner quicker infinitely more efficient...coal wont die

JoshBB
09-06-2015, 09:20 PM
i also think energy should be nationalized , I mean privatising water is a joke....welsh water are the only suppliers in most of wales, wheres the free market competiton...and all vat should be scrapped on all energy bills
we also need the severn barrage, which is 25 years over due...we have the second highest most powerful tides in the world , use it for goodness sakes
as for coal, coal production is up 30% in Germany as they use cutting edge technology to find the best seams and liquefy the coal...its far far cleaner quicker infinitely more efficient...coal wont die

It's going to run out. Coal is not renewable. "23 Years Worth of Coal Left. It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us around 118 years at current rates of production."

Jamesy
09-06-2015, 10:11 PM
Seems like a great idea and one that should be expanded in future.

the truth
09-06-2015, 10:37 PM
It's going to run out. Coal is not renewable. "23 Years Worth of Coal Left. It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us around 118 years at current rates of production."

lol we have 500 to 1000 years worth of coal in the UK beneath our feet , the best coal in the world in the best coal seam in the world and its only gotten better as its been untouched for 25 years

Toy Soldier
10-06-2015, 07:08 AM
lol we have 500 to 1000 years worth of coal in the UK beneath our feet , the best coal in the world in the best coal seam in the world and its only gotten better as its been untouched for 25 years
How has it gotten better?

Kizzy
10-06-2015, 08:55 AM
Leave the coal where it is, outsourcing coal was at the time cost effective as the cost of transportation and labour overseas were minimal compared with producing our own.
Green energy should've been utilised years ago but it was held back so some could become super rich. My hope is to one day go off grid, I think everyone should.
This is great if it is geologically viable, and we don't rely on foreign investment to build.

the truth
10-06-2015, 04:56 PM
How has it gotten better?

the longer you leave it the better it gets...man alive this is like cse level geology

Toy Soldier
10-06-2015, 04:58 PM
the longer you leave it the better it gets...man alive this is like cse geology
It takes hundreds of thousands if not millions of years to form, it hasn't gotten better in the last 3 decades :joker:

the truth
10-06-2015, 05:01 PM
It takes hundreds of thousands if not millions of years to form, it hasn't gotten better in the last 3 decades :joker:

youre wrong...left untouched it gets better
its an invaluable resource, we have the best in the world and its frankly insane not to use it...the reason we don't? European union regulations

http://earthuntouched.com/coal-major-energy-resource-rtr/

JoshBB
10-06-2015, 05:34 PM
lol we have 500 to 1000 years worth of coal in the UK beneath our feet , the best coal in the world in the best coal seam in the world and its only gotten better as its been untouched for 25 years

You are absolutely insane and delusional. Coal takes millions of years to form, I don't know why you think we've had a buildup over the miniscule duration of just 25 years.

the truth
10-06-2015, 06:21 PM
You are absolutely insane and delusional. Coal takes millions of years to form, I don't know why you think we've had a buildup over the miniscule duration of just 25 years.

you've been duly reported for that personal attack....30 years without drilling makes an enormous difference

Toy Soldier
10-06-2015, 08:31 PM
you've been duly reported for that personal attack....30 years without drilling makes an enormous difference
Do you have anything at all to back this up? I can only imagine it's based on the barmy creationist notion that the world is actually only a few thousand years old and coal secretly forms much more quickly.

I mean, I guess it's theoretically slightly better. In the same way that £1 million and a penny is better than £1 million.

the truth
10-06-2015, 08:36 PM
Do you have anything at all to back this up? I can only imagine it's based on the barmy creationist notion that the world is actually only a few thousand years old and coal secretly forms much more quickly.

I mean, I guess it's theoretically slightly better. In the same way that £1 million and a penny is better than £1 million.

you want back up to know drilling affects coal?

Toy Soldier
10-06-2015, 08:37 PM
you want back up to know drilling affects coal?
Yes.

the truth
10-06-2015, 08:40 PM
Yes.

sorry I cant spoon feed you forever, next youll want me to prove your bottom is cleaner when you've wiped it, get a job

Toy Soldier
10-06-2015, 09:20 PM
sorry I cant spoon feed you forever, next youll want me to prove your bottom is cleaner when you've wiped it, get a job
In other words, you made it up, like pretty much every other "fact" you come out with on here.

When you make a claim, the onus us on you to provide SOME evidence that it's true. You don't even have to link to anything, at least make some attempt to explain WHY the coal is "better". Anything at all would be nice. Something more than "it just is cos I sez so".