Harry standing up to Marc

[sosadbbend]

You would have to be a strong character to constantly stand up to Marc and she does it with bells on!
She called it so right when Danny was trying to smooth things over, Marc can't take the 'banter' back at him!

[ItWasJustBanter]

She's not able for him at all. She should start charging him rent for the space he occupies in her head. She's rattled to the core of her being by him.

[y.winter]

The only thing I like about her. The rest is just cheap and disgusting.



Ashleigh has done it far better.

[sampvt]

Big difference to standing up and sitting in another room constantly bitching about him behind his back. She knows BB will support her in a fight so she is deliberately goading him into doing something he will get thrown out for, Hardly a martyr type in my eyes, more a bit chavvy actually.

[Liam-]

She's the only one in there properly standing up to his widespread misogyny so for that, she's a goddess

[Crimson Dynamo]

The only thing I like about her. The rest is just cheap and disgusting.



Ashleigh has done it far better.

:clap1:

[sampvt]

She's the only one in there properly standing up to his widespread misogyny so for that, she's a goddess

According to you, lol.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Spot on. Sitting in another room bitching about him isn't "standing up" to him...whatever she's supposed to be standing up for.

She's a vile creature. Even her first victim wants rid now.

[MrWong]

She's not able for him at all. She should start charging him rent for the space he occupies in her head. She's rattled to the core of her being by him.

He's the one that's rattled by her. He admitted as much on last nights highlights.

[ItWasJustBanter]

He's the one that's rattled by her. He admitted as much on last nights highlights.

He's playing a much longer game than she is. She's not able for him at all.

[Liam-]

According to you, lol.

Well it's not according to the Pope is it?

[Vicky.]

They rattle each other, they hate each other. Theres not much more to it than that tbh, no matter how much people try to make it out as Harry standing up for the women, yadayadayada..they just can't stand each other :shrug:

[JoshBB]

I'm really warming to Harry.

[Vicky.]

Also shes hardly the first one who has answers back, nor the only one who has had a go. Not quite sure why shes being hailed as some saviour of the rest of the weak woman race or something

[reece(:]

Harry is exceeding expectations :clap1:

[sampvt]

I'm really warming to Harry.

why does that not surprise me, lol.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also shes hardly the first one who has answers back, nor the only one who has had a go. Not quite sure why shes being hailed as some saviour of the rest of the weak woman race or something

I found her incredibly righteous last night. Whether or not Marc is trying to keep peace with Harry (he isn't) doesn't matter because he's been horrible and overbearing to everyone, especially the women. Likewise, whether or not she's going out of her way to annoy him doesn't matter because that's been his MO from the start. Not to mention how nauseating his DR was about how he can't be himself and how he has to walk on eggshells now, which is really code for how he can't be an unmitigated asshole 100% of the time.

[MrWong]

He's playing a much longer game than she is. She's not able for him at all.

We'll see how it plays out. She seems more than able so far.

[Rorkimaru]

She's completely shaken by him. From what I've seen he's not going for her except after the wishing well thing. He just wants to pretend she doesn't exist and she's rattled through and through.

[Amy Jade]

I love her for standing up for herself, she has him spot on - he's a bully who thinks he can say and do as he pleases but if anyone answers him back he sees red.

[Nancy.]

Big difference to standing up and sitting in another room constantly bitching about him behind his back. She knows BB will support her in a fight so she is deliberately goading him into doing something he will get thrown out for, Hardly a martyr type in my eyes, more a bit chavvy actually.

Well said.

[chuff me dizzy]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

[Nancy.]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

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[Amy Jade]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

Dear god

[Kazanne]

I think Harry is pretty miffed that Marc has ignored what she thinks are her charms.

[Liam-]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

Again, Helen was a prostitute.

[Pete.]

Harry :clap1:

[MrWong]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

On her back with her legs in the air sounds too submissive for a dominatrix.

How come you dislike Harry for something you think she does yet loved Helen knowing she did exactly that.

[Pete.]

Again, Helen was a prostitute.
Lmao preach

[chuff me dizzy]

Dear god

I will change it, didn't want to offend ....will wrapped around a dirty old mans neck while he's wearing a grubby macs suit better?

[chuff me dizzy]

Again, Helen was a prostitute.

EX

[Amy Jade]

I will change it, didn't want to offend ....will wrapped around a dirty old mans neck while he's wearing a grubby macs suit better?

No still a repulsive read.

[Kazanne]

Even Helen didn't get her baps out and shave her fanny on national TV,even ex prostitues know it's not the done thing,besides Helen had a heart

[chuff me dizzy]

No still a repulsive read.

Oh dear :pat:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

I mean, production isn't going to let her win over him if that's what you mean.

[chuff me dizzy]

Even Helen didn't get her baps out and shave her fanny on national TV,even ex prostitues know it's not the done thing,besides Helen had a heart

Do you know something Kazanne,I couldnt have put it better myself :worship:

[Liam-]

EX

And that changes the fact that she slept with men for money how exactly?

Honestly, some of the things being said about Harry are head and shoulders above anything she has said herself when it comes to being vile, lord have mercy.

[Nancy.]

Oh dear :pat:

Yes, I am sick to the back teeth of people posting about how "offended" they are. Faux outrage seems to be the "in" thing at the moment. :sleep:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Even Helen didn't get her baps out and shave her fanny on national TV,even ex prostitues know it's not the done thing,besides Helen had a heart

this is news to me

[chuff me dizzy]

And that changes the fact that she slept with men for money how exactly?

Honestly, some of the things being said about Harry are head and shoulders above anything she has said herself when it comes to being vile, lord have mercy.

Helen never flashed everything on BB,Helen was an amazing hm8, and as a Brucie bonus,Helen was a winner, something the cretin will never be

[Amy Jade]

Helen never flashed everything on BB,Helen was an amazing hm8, and as a Brucie bonus,Helen was a winner, something the cretin will never be

Marc

[Liam-]

Helen never flashed everything on BB,Helen was an amazing hm8, and as a Brucie bonus,Helen was a winner, something the cretin will never be

Yep, I'm glad she won too, but what has that got to do with what i just said? you weren't chastising Harry for flashing in the house in the original post i quoted, you were spitting bile about how she was on her back for anyone and anything, or disgusting words to that effect, while that is simply not true, but not only do you criticise her for something that you've completely made up to suit your own agenda, you do it while worshiping Helen, who was an actual, literal, real life prostitute, who took money off of people, after she had laid back and thought of England and made a living out of it.

To elaborate, you're hating on a woman for doing something she doesn't even do, while declaring your love for another woman, who actually does what you're having a go at the other woman for doing, when she doesn't even do what you claim to hate.

Not only is it hyper hypocritical, but the way you're doing it is actually disgusting and worse than anything Harry has said in that house.

[Pete.]

I thought the Helen love was left behind last year yawn

[Amy Jade]

I was a huge Helen supporter last year but it genuinley baffles me how people can defend her in one breath when she was a prostitute by admission, slept with married men for cash and then try and protray Harry who is only a webcam girl as the biggest slut walking.

Also Chuff you seriously confuse me because last CBB you wanted Perez to have his kids taken off him for him walking around in underwear and simulating sex with a window yet you have made the claim Marc is the best housemate yet he's gone fully naked and simulated sex on other people. Is it because Perez is gay or American or something?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Is it because Perez is gay or American or something?

Bingo!

[Kazanne]

this is news to me

Well she did,hence her getting upset at some of the things she did and said,hell even Jale whom Helen supposedly bullied liked Helen towards the end,I really disliked Helen when she went in the house,thats why she was a good housemate ,she managed to turn me around.

[MrWong]

Well she did,hence her getting upset at some of the things she did and said,hell even Jale whom Helen supposedly bullied liked Helen towards the end,I really disliked Helen when she went in the house,thats why she was a good housemate ,she managed to turn me around.

You were a victim of the editing. The redemption storyline.

Helen's still a massive **** and probs always will be.

[johne]

Harry :clap1:

I second that.

It's funny though that many on here, and in the house, who are happy to criticise Marc for his mysogyny, also hate Harry for taking her tits out yet fail to see the irony. Since BB began, nearly all muscled male HM's have paraded their topless bodies at every opportunity, but do the Harry haters hate all the male exhibitionists too? I doubt many do, and if they don't perhaps they don't realise they are behaving just as sexist as Marc.

[sosadbbend]

She's completely shaken by him. From what I've seen he's not going for her except after the wishing well thing. He just wants to pretend she doesn't exist and she's rattled through and through.

He wants to pretend she doesn't exist because he feels insecure around her and doesn't know what to do or how to behave. His normal banter (insults) have not worked and now he is puzzled, so he pretends she doesn't exist.

[Beetlejuice]

She's not able for him at all. She should start charging him rent for the space he occupies in her head. She's rattled to the core of her being by him.

Of course she's rattled. She's got the most manipulative bully boy in the house gunning for her.

[Patricia4]

Makes a change for her, her usual position is on her back with her legs in the air,does anyone seriously think Marc is going to lt a cheap little slapper win over him? think again folks

:clap1::clap1:

[Kazanne]

He wants to pretend she doesn't exist because he feels insecure around her and doesn't know what to do or how to behave. His normal banter (insults) have not worked and now he is puzzled, so he pretends she doesn't exist.

Nah,she is trying to get him thrown out she had said as much,with Marc not biting it's harder for her to do.

[Amy Jade]

Bingo!

Think the non reply is very telling.

[chuff me dizzy]

Nah,she is trying to get him thrown out she had said as much,with Marc not biting it's harder for her to do.

Hes a lot smarter than she can ever dream of being,by playing it cool while she implodes is making him look the bigger person

[johne]

Hes a lot smarter than she can ever dream of being,by playing it cool while she implodes is making him look the bigger person

I agree, he's certainly smarter, but not a bigger person, more a bigger dick.

[Dollface]

I was a huge Helen supporter last year but it genuinley baffles me how people can defend her in one breath when she was a prostitute by admission, slept with married men for cash and then try and protray Harry who is only a webcam girl as the biggest slut walking.

Also Chuff you seriously confuse me because last CBB you wanted Perez to have his kids taken off him for him walking around in underwear and simulating sex with a window yet you have made the claim Marc is the best housemate yet he's gone fully naked and simulated sex on other people. Is it because Perez is gay or American or something?

:worship:

No no according to Chuff, Helen had "more class in her little finger than Harry" even though she slept with married men for money, which Harry doesn't do.

I wonder if Chuff knows how embarrassing it is for her to keep being so hypocritical :worry:

[Dollface]

Hes a lot smarter than she can ever dream of being,by playing it cool while she implodes is making him look the bigger person

Only to people who support nastiness :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

The only things Marc could do to make himself bigger is pump more steroids into his body imo

[waterhog]

jealousy is not a good trait amy

[Amy Jade]

jealousy is not a good trait amy

Who am I jealous of?

[Slayyyymy Jade]

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[Amy Jade]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8czj7aac81qf8357o1_500.gif

omg haha ♡♡

[Kazanne]

:worship:

No no according to Chuff, Helen had "more class in her little finger than Harry" even though she slept with married men for money, which Harry doesn't do.

I wonder if Chuff knows how embarrassing it is for her to keep being so hypocritical :worry:

I think we are attacking a member here,no need :nono: Chuff is as entitalled as you to support who she likes.

[Dollface]

I think we are attacking a member here,no need :nono: Chuff is as entitalled as you to support who she likes.

Yes Kazanne, everyone is entitled to support whoever they want to support (i never said she couldn't? so i don't know where that is even coming from), but i'm also entitled to point out when someone is being highly hypocritical.

[RodHull]

No no according to Chuff, Helen had "more class in her little finger than Harry" even though she slept with married men for money, which Harry doesn't do.


No she sells herself online for men to **** over instead... yeah go girl power :laugh:

I mean seriously think what u like of Marc but Harry is awful, worst HM by far even worse than showbiz and thats some pretty stiff competition. She beelined for Nic knowing he was an easy target she could manipulate, she knew she had to get in with the old HMs to stay safe Nic was her way in. Now Marc has kinda beccome liked (to a point) by the others it ****es her off no end cause she has nothing else left to give, we've seen her body she wont go any further with Nic cause thats fake as **** all she has left is her hatred of Marc and nobody else is that fussed by him any more.

Joel (who Im not keen on) stands up to Marc far better than she does... and as for his supposed hatred of women, can someone explain to me what the hell he does thats so bad? He calls people names he calls them all names hes an equal opportunities insulter, actually while we are at it Chloe stands up to him as well not once has she allowed him to get away with anything.

Harry is awful playing the game a cheap web cam slapper whos quickly realising her only card left is to be a victim... in the words of a top HM

BORE OFF

[Dollface]

No she sells herself online for men to **** over instead... yeah go girl power :laugh:

I mean seriously think what u like of Marc but Harry is awful, worst HM by far even worse than showbiz and thats some pretty stiff competition. She beelined for Nic knowing he was an easy target she could manipulate, she knew she had to get in with the old HMs to stay safe Nic was her way in. Now Marc has kinda beccome liked (to a point) by the others it ****es her off no end cause she has nothing else left to give, we've seen her body she wont go any further with Nic cause thats fake as **** all she has left is her hatred of Marc and nobody else is that fussed by him any more.

Joel (who Im not keen on) stands up to Marc far better than she does... and as for his supposed hatred of women, can someone explain to me what the hell he does thats so bad? He calls people names he calls them all names hes an equal opportunities insulter, actually while we are at it Chloe stands up to him as well not once has she allowed him to get away with anything.

Harry is awful playing the game a cheap web cam slapper whos quickly realising her only card left is to be a victim... in the words of a top HM

BORE OFF

I never disputed the fact Harry is a webcam girl, but how is that worse than what Helen did? They are both in the sex industry, so for people to have loved Helen but then say vile things about Harry is just laughably hypocritical. I've read some really spiteful comments on here about Harry's career, from the same people who adored Helen, it's just ridiculous and needs pointing out imo.
Harry may be awful to you but I like her :hee:

[Kazanne]

Yes Kazanne, everyone is entitled to support whoever they want to support (i never said she couldn't? so i don't know where that is even coming from), but i'm also entitled to point out when someone is being highly hypocritical.

Sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it.

[Dollface]

Sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it.

Is because I said it was embarrassing?

It is embarrassing :shrug:

If people are big enough and mean enough to say really spiteful things about housemates looks, careers, etc. then surely they can take the truth being thrown at them.

[Kazanne]

I never disputed the fact Harry is a webcam girl, but how is that worse than what Helen did? They are both in the sex industry, so for people to have loved Helen but then say vile things about Harry is just laughably hypocritical. I've read some really spiteful comments on here about Harry's career, from the same people who adored Helen, it's just ridiculous and needs pointing out imo.
Harry may be awful to you but I like her :hee:

For one I liked Helen,two,even Helen as an ex prostitute didn't get her baps and fanny out on National TV,that's is the difference so not hypocritical just fact,even an ex Pro has more about her than Harry.I don't give a hoot what any of them do outside the house,and as BB housemates,Helen was NOT showing all and sundry.

[Kazanne]

Is because I said it was embarrassing?

It is embarrassing :shrug:

If people are big enough and mean enough to say really spiteful things about housemates looks, careers, etc. then surely they can take the truth being thrown at them.

But Chuff was talking about a housemate,which is not insulting a member ,unless I missed something.

[Dollface]

For one I liked Helen,two,even Helen as an ex prostitute didn't get her baps and fanny out on National TV,that's is the difference so not hypocritical just fact,even an ex Pro has more about her than Harry.I don't give a hoot what any of them do outside the house,and as BB housemates,Helen was NOT showing all and sundry.

Yeah and I get that some people are offended by nudity, so if people was talking about her boobs/fanny being on show then i'd be like ok fair enough, she's opened herself up to that one. But I'm talking about comments about her career (I recall one from Chuff about Harry lying on her back) which just isn't right and IS hypocritical coming from a Helen fan.
I honestly don't think anyone can argue this point with me because I know i'm right.

[Dollface]

But Chuff was talking about a housemate,which is not insulting a member ,unless I missed something.

Did I say she insulted a member? ..Nope, I actually said "about housemates" in my post.
I'm aware it's against the rules of this forum to insult members but IMO I didn't insult Chuff, I pointed out that her hypocrisy was embarrassing ..big deal.

[karezza]

If Sarah or Harriet were still in the house they would also be standing up to the ogre.

[Niamh.]

If Sarah or Harriet were still in the house they would also be standing up to the ogre.

That would have been interesting actually

[RodHull]

I never disputed the fact Harry is a webcam girl, but how is that worse than what Helen did? They are both in the sex industry, so for people to have loved Helen but then say vile things about Harry is just laughably hypocritical. I've read some really spiteful comments on here about Harry's career, from the same people who adored Helen, it's just ridiculous and needs pointing out imo.
Harry may be awful to you but I like her :hee:

I never suggested it was better or worse. I believe that was you in the piece I quoted who suggested she was somehow better than Helen... Which is entirely subjective anyway.

Point is to suggest Harry is some womens rights champion is utterly laughable. Her chosen career (for want of a better term) is about being exploited by men and unlike Helen she has expressed no desire to change that, indeed Harry revels in it, stating in the first few days her purpose in the show was to get her tits out a lot... the smiley bubbly fake she was when she went in there has slowly melted away to reveal a disturbed skank who will use any cheap trick and tactic to get by in there.

Like her by all means but lets not pretend shes some bully slayer. Marc is not a bully not even close hes way to much of a bellend for that and universally disliked, a bully would have everyone onside by now and certainly wouldnt have been put up for nominations by everyone including those he likes, and note he didnt react at all or get annoyed.

Lets see how well Harry the psycho takes it when shes up next week...

[Niamh.]

I never suggested it was better or worse. I believe that was you in the piece I quoted who suggested she was somehow better than Helen... Which is entirely subjective anyway.

Point is to suggest Harry is some womens rights champion is utterly laughable. Her chosen career (for want of a better term) is about being exploited by men and unlike Helen she has expressed no desire to change that, indeed Harry revels in it, stating in the first few days her purpose in the show was to get her tits out a lot... the smiley bubbly fake she was when she went in there has slowly melted away to reveal a disturbed skank who will use any cheap trick and tactic to get by in there.

Like her by all means but lets not pretend shes some bully slayer. Marc is not a bully not even close hes way to much of a bellend for that and universally disliked, a bully would have everyone onside by now and certainly wouldnt have been put up for nominations by everyone including those he likes, and note he didnt react at all or get annoyed.

Lets see how well Harry the psycho takes it when shes up next week...

That is a good description of Helen though

[Dollface]

I never suggested it was better or worse. I believe that was you in the piece I quoted who suggested she was somehow better than Helen... Which is entirely subjective anyway.

Point is to suggest Harry is some womens rights champion is utterly laughable. Her chosen career (for want of a better term) is about being exploited by men and unlike Helen she has expressed no desire to change that, indeed Harry revels in it, stating in the first few days her purpose in the show was to get her tits out a lot... the smiley bubbly fake she was when she went in there has slowly melted away to reveal a disturbed skank who will use any cheap trick and tactic to get by in there.

Like her by all means but lets not pretend shes some bully slayer. Marc is not a bully not even close hes way to much of a bellend for that and universally disliked, a bully would have everyone onside by now and certainly wouldnt have been put up for nominations by everyone including those he likes, and note he didnt react at all or get annoyed.

Lets see how well Harry the psycho takes it when shes up next week...

:laugh2: Erm, please quote where I said anything of the sort.

I never suggested or insinuated that either of the two are better, infact I said "they both work in the sex industry" which suggests that their careers are very similar.

Either you didn't actually read my posts and just decided to reply to me anyway or you're making things up :shrug:

[RodHull]

:laugh2: Erm, please quote where I said anything of the sort.

I never suggested or insinuated that either of the two are better, infact I said "they both work in the sex industry" which suggests that their careers are very similar.

Either you didn't actually read my posts and just decided to reply to me anyway or you're making things up :shrug:

And I never suggested you directly did so... but many on these forums are (go check the threads) and your point certainly steers in the same direction suggesting shes the only one standing up to a bully which she isnt and he isnt for the record.

And yes Niamh it is a fair point to suggest Helen was a bully, I dont agree for reasons much discussed last year but still shes far closer to a bully than Marc is.

[Dollface]

And I never suggested you directly did so... but many on these forums are (go check the threads) and your point certainly steers in the same direction suggesting shes the only one standing up to a bully which she isnt and he isnt for the record.

And yes Niamh it is a fair point to suggest Helen was a bully, I dont agree for reasons much discussed last year but still shes far closer to a bully than Marc is.

No, just because "many of these forums are" doesn't mean I am, it does seem as though you didn't actually read my posts. Once again, please show me a quote where I suggested that Harry is the only one standing up to a bully.

[Niamh.]

And I never suggested you directly did so... but many on these forums are (go check the threads) and your point certainly steers in the same direction suggesting shes the only one standing up to a bully which she isnt and he isnt for the record.

And yes Niamh it is a fair point to suggest Helen was a bully, I dont agree for reasons much discussed last year but still shes far closer to a bully than Marc is.

I just think Marc is a rude asshole but harry is also a dickhead.

[MrWong]

:laugh2: Erm, please quote where I said anything of the sort.

I never suggested or insinuated that either of the two are better, infact I said "they both work in the sex industry" which suggests that their careers are very similar.

Either you didn't actually read my posts and just decided to reply to me anyway or you're making things up :shrug:

They may work in the sex industry but it's not likely that Harry has sex with her clients considering she's a dominatrix.

[Vanessa]

I just think Marc is a rude asshole but harry is also a dickhead.

This!

[Amy Jade]

Dollface in this thread :flutter:

Kaz, you know I respect you very much but I am so confused how Helen being an ex prostitue makes Harry worse, I don't personally believe any housemates should be made out to be repulsive by their job but Helen was paid to let men have sex with her and perform sex acts upon men for cash, you seem to imply Harry is worse for simply going full frontal on TV - I honestly for the life of me can't understand that POV that Harry standing up in the bath nude is somehow worse than a woman being paid for sex.

Would you say an actress such as Kate Winslet or Charlize Therone are worse than a prostitute, too? since they've also been in the nude for various roles.

[Tarryn]

I just think Marc is a rude asshole but harry is also a dickhead.

True.
I wonder what would happen if when they say Marc has been evicted, he does something really stupid coz he thinks he is going rather than to a secret room.
You never really know with Marc, he is so unpredictable.
He might head-butt Harry or something :laugh:

[Kazanne]

Dollface in this thread :flutter:

Kaz, you know I respect you very much but I am so confused how Helen being an ex prostitue makes Harry worse, I don't personally believe any housemates should be made out to be repulsive by their job but Helen was paid to let men have sex with her and perform sex acts upon men for cash, you seem to imply Harry is worse for simply going full frontal on TV - I honestly for the life of me can't understand that POV that Harry standing up in the bath nude is somehow worse than a woman being paid for sex.

Would you say an actress such as Kate Winslet or Charlize Therone are worse than a prostitute, too? since they've also been in the nude for various roles.

Hi Amy,I will explain it the best I can,I really disliked Helen when she went in the house last year and one of the reasons was that she had slept with a footballer and could have ruined his marriage,but as time went on I began to like Helen and her job as a prostitute was really nothing to do with me and didn't affect me,so I judged her on how she was in the house,and I fully expected her to be a slapper but she wasn't as I recall.I am not really bothered what line of work Harry is in either,but I dont find her likable at all,it's not just the nudity (although,that is way overdone)it's her whole persona,she seems really weird imo,it doesn't help that she has a foul mouth,I was nearly sick last night when she said someone had a mouthful of Sams fanny !! I mean ,really? her face during the task was like a slapped arse,and although I know Marc can be over bearing and a plonka sometimes,I don't think she can blame everything on him,Marc is a first class knob sometimes,but he does seem to want to have fun,Harry and Marc are not all that different,I just find Marc more likeable,I think he has a kind heart,I have not seen that yet with Harry,she has a cold,hard face,I don't know how else to explain it,Katie Hopkins was called a bully last year and we didn't think she was,we all see things differently,this year it is just different for us,lets hope CBB is better.:wavey:

[wendywillow]

am I the only on who doesn't give a flying ******* what a girl does to make a living? all this skank and ***** talk....tons of actresses have gotten their tits out for a role, everyone from Julie Andrews to Helen Mirren. They're all getting paid, who cares

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Hi Amy,I will explain it the best I can,I really disliked Helen when she went in the house last year and one of the reasons was that she had slept with a footballer and could have ruined his marriage,but as time went on I began to like Helen and her job as a prostitute was really nothing to do with me and didn't affect me,so I judged her on how she was in the house,and I fully expected her to be a slapper but she wasn't as I recall.I am not really bothered what line of work Harry is in either,but I dont find her likable at all,it's not just the nudity (although,that is way overdone)it's her whole persona,she seems really weird imo,it doesn't help that she has a foul mouth,I was nearly sick last night when she said someone had a mouthful of Sams fanny !! I mean ,really? her face during the task was like a slapped arse,and although I know Marc can be over bearing and a plonka sometimes,I don't think she can blame everything on him,Marc is a first class knob sometimes,but he does seem to want to have fun,Harry and Marc are not all that different,I just find Marc more likeable,I think he has a kind heart,I have not seen that yet with Harry,she has a cold,hard face,I don't know how else to explain it,Katie Hopkins was called a bully last year and we didn't think she was,we all see things differently,this year it is just different for us,lets hope CBB is better.:wavey:

Harry doesn't come across as being a particularly likeable type, I agree with you there. What i find "interesting" though is that last week, Harry played a very good game, she befriended the oldies, seemed to be doing really well. Then, nominations happened, the 3 other newbies all got put up. From that moment, Marc started his assault on Harry, and slowly but surely, by aggressive persuasion, he has made the oldies tow the line. Harry is a much more isolated figure than Simon ever was, its a very horrible position to be in, and its not in her nature to give in and stop fighting (which I admire). I find the whole thing a bit contrived, unnatural and uncomfortable, but i would love to see Harry take down Marc, unfortunately its not going to happen with the fake eviction looming.