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Crimson Dynamo
10-06-2015, 02:43 PM
The Conservatives are the party for the working man

did you know?

Chloe loved the £600 tax break


How do you like it?

9oQ_tbf6j2A

Tarryn
10-06-2015, 02:46 PM
The Tory party are NOT the party for the working man but the Millionaire, so I'm not liking Joel's political views BUT he is the only HM I can tolerate watching at the moment.
He actually seems the most normal one in there.

arista
10-06-2015, 02:56 PM
The Conservatives are the party for the working man

did you know?

Chloe loved the £600 tax break


How do you like it?

9oQ_tbf6j2A


Yes Bring him back Harry

hannah.
10-06-2015, 02:56 PM
I can't stand him, and it's nothing to do with his political standing.

He's a jumped up little twerp who needs to stop trying to speak for the house and stop acting like he's some new age Jeremy Paxman. But of course he won't do either of those things because he has nothing else to offer.

Lostie!
10-06-2015, 02:58 PM
I was loving him, but he's getting increasingly more irritating now. He and Jack being twats to Simon at every chance they get is pissing me off tbh, and their behaviour would no doubt be picked up on more if Simon was more popular.

Regardless of how he's been, they're just being horrid now.

waterhog
10-06-2015, 02:59 PM
i hate conservatives - but love joel - he is good stuff and boy can he rap. mc joel all the way.

Niamh.
10-06-2015, 03:00 PM
Joel is boring

Liam-
10-06-2015, 03:00 PM
He's quite annoying sometimes, but then he comes out with something that really makes me laugh, he's easily the most complex character this series, I find it really hard to work him out and i like that

Daniel.
10-06-2015, 03:01 PM
No him and Marc are bottom five humans of all time and need to leave

LukeB
10-06-2015, 03:02 PM
Yeah I love Joel, the most genuine nice guy there! he makes me laugh as well

joeysteele
10-06-2015, 03:24 PM
I really don't like his political stance but I do like Joel.
Despite likely rarely agreeing with him,he is the housemate I would be talking to most in there or even debating/arguing too,as to politics.

I get the feeling he is scared of doing or saying something too controversial,being aware the Conservative hierarchy are probably taking note of what he says and how he behaves in there.
He does hope to be selected to fight a parliamentary seat in the future.

Maybe we are not getting all the sides there are to Joel.

He is a bit like me, I am considered far too serious, even by my closest friends,with little in the way of real humour,so I can relate as to that to Joel definitely.

ebandit
10-06-2015, 03:32 PM
............i kinda feel joel needs to broaden his horizons.....................

where's the rebel inside fighting the system?

Mark L

JoshBB
10-06-2015, 03:34 PM
Gone off him in recent days. And stop this 'tories for the working class' bs

Jay.
10-06-2015, 03:41 PM
joel is one of my favourites

Pete.
10-06-2015, 03:43 PM
He's awful

hijaxers
10-06-2015, 03:48 PM
All tories are bastards

reece(:
10-06-2015, 03:53 PM
Cannot stand him, worst in there.

waterhog
10-06-2015, 04:32 PM
he is a character.

chuff me dizzy
10-06-2015, 04:34 PM
Mummys little soldier :devil:..........boring little tit more like

Rorkimaru
10-06-2015, 05:05 PM
I'm not english so I don't follow english politics but Joel himself I like. I actually think he has fantastic interviewing and presenting skills and he could have a bright future as a political correspondent. Now whether or not he believes the party's tag lines that's of course what he's going to be saying since he's in the party.

Also this £600 effective tax break he was talking about. A lot of people are sneering about it but is it untrue? By raising the entry point to tax they are surely providing tax relief and in terms of % it'll most greatly affect those skirting around that income level.

rubymoo
10-06-2015, 05:11 PM
I quite like him.

Moosething
10-06-2015, 05:26 PM
No him and Marc are bottom five humans of all time and need to leave

:facepalm:

JoshBB
10-06-2015, 05:29 PM
I'm not english so I don't follow english politics but Joel himself I like. I actually think he has fantastic interviewing and presenting skills and he could have a bright future as a political correspondent. Now whether or not he believes the party's tag lines that's of course what he's going to be saying since he's in the party.

Also this £600 effective tax break he was talking about. A lot of people are sneering about it but is it untrue? By raising the entry point to tax they are surely providing tax relief and in terms of % it'll most greatly affect those skirting around that income level.

Yes but they have slashed welfare and public services to the extreme. Not for the poor at all, it's all to suit their rich friends.

bots
10-06-2015, 05:33 PM
he is a precocious little boy, nothing endearing or likeable in him at all. Comes across as a spoilt brat

Tarryn
10-06-2015, 05:40 PM
Yes but they have slashed welfare and public services to the extreme. Not for the poor at all, it's all to suit their rich friends.

:clap1:

Crimson Dynamo
10-06-2015, 05:42 PM
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276308/Article/images/20597792/5790080-large.jpg

JoshBB
10-06-2015, 05:53 PM
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276308/Article/images/20597792/5790080-large.jpg

Eric Pickles has lost a lot of weight recently! :laugh:

camertone
10-06-2015, 06:29 PM
cringe.. he is clueless, but thinks he knows everything. bratty and nosy.. bored with him..

chuff me dizzy
10-06-2015, 06:33 PM
he is a precocious little boy, nothing endearing or likeable in him at all. Comes across as a spoilt brat

:clap1:

hannah.
10-06-2015, 06:36 PM
I'm not english so I don't follow english politics but Joel himself I like. I actually think he has fantastic interviewing and presenting skills and he could have a bright future as a political correspondent. Now whether or not he believes the party's tag lines that's of course what he's going to be saying since he's in the party.

Also this £600 effective tax break he was talking about. A lot of people are sneering about it but is it untrue? By raising the entry point to tax they are surely providing tax relief and in terms of % it'll most greatly affect those skirting around that income level.

Yes but they have slashed welfare and public services to the extreme. Not for the poor at all, it's all to suit their rich friends.

AND it was actually implemented by the Lib Dems, Tories opposed it

Kazanne
10-06-2015, 06:39 PM
All tories are bastards

Thanks for that.:nono:

Livia
10-06-2015, 07:30 PM
He seems like a misfit to me. You could take that suit off him and put it on a sixty year old man and it'd look okay. He needs someone to take him shopping.

billy123
10-06-2015, 07:35 PM
NO im not a deluded little tory wanker.

joeysteele
10-06-2015, 07:59 PM
Thanks for that.:nono:

:joker:I am sure no one means you Kazanne,just the politicians.

I have many friends who are Conservative supporters, we do argue a lot on some issues but we see ourselves as still great people.
Look at you and I during the election, we were total opposites then.
The secret is never to allow divisions no matter how great to sacrifice futures,or the unity of the past either.

I have to say I actually really like Joel, from what I have seen as to him,he reminds me a lot of how I used to be and how I still am in many ways.
I have little humour, am most of the time really serious,I prefer being around the pack but not part of it.
I think like me too, he has his eyes set on his future and he doesn't want to do anything that may be seen as risky or 'out of line'.

I do have a more wilder side to myself from what I have thus far seen as to Joel but I am interested in him and would,as I said before, be spending a lot of time, chatting to him and debating/challenging him on many issues.
He cannot get a good debate going in there as to politics and maybe politics is his only thing really.
Which makes him possibly look a little lost and out of place.

Rorkimaru
10-06-2015, 08:00 PM
Yes but they have slashed welfare and public services to the extreme. Not for the poor at all, it's all to suit their rich friends.

Well in fairness to him at no point did he say he was for the poor or for those on welfare. In fact he specifically said he was for working people so slashing welfare is in line with that stance.

AND it was actually implemented by the Lib Dems, Tories opposed it

This is more in line with what I was wondering. They're taking credit for something they tried to prevent which just happened to happen during their time in office. That's the political hypocrisy we know and love.

JoshBB
10-06-2015, 08:01 PM
AND it was actually implemented by the Lib Dems, Tories opposed it

I thought you were talking about cuts then... I was thinking 'what planet are you on??' :laugh:

JoshBB
10-06-2015, 08:02 PM
Well in fairness to him at no point did he say he was for the poor or for those on welfare. In fact he specifically said he was for working people so slashing welfare is in line with that stance.


Most welfare goes to those in-work.

Rorkimaru
10-06-2015, 08:06 PM
Most welfare goes to those in-work.

Oh, apologies! I thought that meant jobseekers allowance. I wasn't thinking about stuff like child support etc. My bad.

As I mentioned I'm not hugely familiar with the UK (or Irish tbh) system and was just seeking to understand.

smudgie
10-06-2015, 08:48 PM
I really liked Joel at first, now I find hm far too judgemental and pompous.
I started to go off him when he was asking Aaron how many men he had slept with and started dividing it into how many a week, silly beggar hasn't twigged that you could have a few inns day and ne for the rest of the week/ month.
His politics don't bother me at all..Tory and proud of it anyway.

tomrain
10-06-2015, 08:50 PM
I can't help thinking he has a gay mouth. I know that's wrong of me but it's just what keeps popping up in my head when he talks, smiles or laughs.

Vicky.
10-06-2015, 08:54 PM
Don't mind him, though he talks absolute crap about politics D:

Hes an odd one though. He is like a teen in the body of an OAP. Was nice seeing him actually have fun last night instead of sitting looking like hes sucking a lemon

BigBrotherfan4ever
10-06-2015, 08:58 PM
He's one the most boring HM's in there this year, he just lacks any personality, I thiink there's I void look in his eyes when he's talking or in a conversation with other HM's.

Kazanne
10-06-2015, 08:59 PM
:joker:I am sure no one means you Kazanne,just the politicians.

I have many friends who are Conservative supporters, we do argue a lot on some issues but we see ourselves as still great people.
Look at you and I during the election, we were total opposites then.
The secret is never to allow divisions no matter how great to sacrifice futures,or the unity of the past either.

I have to say I actually really like Joel, from what I have seen as to him,he reminds me a lot of how I used to be and how I still am in many ways.
I have little humour, am most of the time really serious,I prefer being around the pack but not part of it.
I think like me too, he has his eyes set on his future and he doesn't want to do anything that may be seen as risky or 'out of line'.

I do have a more wilder side to myself from what I have thus far seen as to Joel but I am interested in him and would,as I said before, be spending a lot of time, chatting to him and debating/challenging him on many issues.
He cannot get a good debate going in there as to politics and maybe politics is his only thing really.
Which makes him possibly look a little lost and out of place.

:wavey:Joey,I agree Joey,even when we are on opposite sides,it's all good as I know as a person you are good,as for Joel,he annoyed me once,I think its when he was going on at Simon,but I quite like the fellow so far,he is a bit like an old man sometimes but that is funny,lol

Waynoo
10-06-2015, 10:06 PM
cant stand Joel but agree with him politically.

Daniel-X
10-06-2015, 10:09 PM
Yeah I did like him at first and I liked him tbh up until this week, I've found him incredibley annoying and patronising this week and I'm sick of his constant moaning about everything. He just treats big brother like a big general election debate and it's beginning to grate on me now.

Josy
10-06-2015, 10:10 PM
Everything about him is so awkward, even when he's 'having fun' like when he was doing the rap/dancing and when he's cheering about stuff it's just sooo awkward that it's funny

reece(:
10-06-2015, 10:15 PM
Why he was saved over Eileen I still don't know.

BigBrotherfan4ever
11-06-2015, 07:09 AM
I did like like Joel, but over the last week I've totally went off him, & I truely disagree with his politics, can't stand the Tories.

Rob4
11-06-2015, 07:44 AM
Do not agree with his politics and he seems to be an old man in a boys body, very awkward, but he knows his own mind and has never allowed anyone to bully him which I respect.

mrflibble
11-06-2015, 08:04 AM
I couldn't care less about his politics or anything he's done prior to entering the house. I like how he's been in the house so far, so .. yes?

BigBrotherfan4ever
11-06-2015, 12:35 PM
Why he was saved over Eileen I still don't know.

Me either

Kizzy
11-06-2015, 12:46 PM
He's a silly boy who has latched on to a certain ideology as a mindset that he seems to extend even to us and them supermarkets, it was this conversation which I felt was the most telling about Joel.

Robodog
11-06-2015, 02:04 PM
He's one the most boring HM's in there this year, he just lacks any personality, I thiink there's I void look in his eyes when he's talking or in a conversation with other HM's.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

yes yes yes

I'm so glad someone else notices that 'dead' look in his eyes. God, there is something deeply odd about it. I really don't like him at all.

Two other things I don't like about him are:

1. He takes a sneering delight when others are in trouble with the authority of BB. You watch his face.

2. He is horribly self-righteous and is the first one to gang up on someone when the crowd are against them. Think of how he stands over Simon for example, chopping his hand and acting like the big man.

His whole 'main thing' is basically trying to act like a politician on newsnight. The way he talks and argues with those very.. controlled.. pauses and the 'chopping down' hand movements = GRRRRR. It's EXACTLY how most politicans speak and act on debates shows, and is exactly why most people don't trust most politicians - it's all too contrived and unnatural that way of talking.

It's like he has watched and studied others for hours on end and then copied it.

It's not the real Joel.

Who is the real Joel?

IMO - it's the guy parading around in Eileen's gold clothes, the same guy who had camp banter and baths with Aaron for weeks on end.

Some might say he was a repressed homosexual in denial which would cause a lot of his self-righteous anger and control issues. I know someone like that who came out recently and is a much kinder and more relaxed person since coming out as gay.

Livia
11-06-2015, 02:07 PM
Looking forward to have all the other housemates' political persuasion highlighted in a thread. That's if any of them can be arsed to vote, of course.